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On September 28 2013 01:17 Risen wrote: Yes. I always talk to my scum reads, I just flipped my shit b/c Geript. No you flipped your shit because you got caught. Want to explain your reasoning before I get back from work and move the vote onto you? | ||
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On September 28 2013 02:58 Risen wrote: OO you don't want me to hold you, the proxy rage will just blow you up and you'll get banned. I'm seriously happy iamp stopped me. You're here answer my questions. You came back with this: On September 28 2013 01:46 Risen wrote: Zaragon the sad thing is that I actually have a very strong null read on Mocsta, but he has to be lynched. Not while we have so many clearly scummy people (Cephiro, Mr. CC, FT, Geript) but certainly once those four are taken care of. This has to be done because we can't allow scum in the future to think they can fake claim and get away with it. Fake claiming doctor and getting a doctor claim lynch is the bottom of the barrel in terms of play. It's so unaligned with town regardless of anything that it has to be punished. When making plays like that you're pretty much fulfilling the traitor roll. I'm a huge fan of big plays, I love them, but only when I'm scum. Scum are the only ones who can afford to make big plays because the potential payout is so huge and scum has access to nearly all information. Acting on such limited information means town should not ever make big plays like that. Why does he have to be lynched? Why are you sad about it? Why do you care more about "punishing play" right now than actually you know winning the game and convincing people that you want to lynch scum and that the person who you're pushing is scum. WHY THE FUCK IS NOBODY AT ALL EXCEPT FOR ME TALKING ABOUT HOW FUCKING SCUMMY RISEN IS???????????? | ||
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On September 28 2013 07:25 kitaman27 wrote: What have I gotten myself into -_- Probably will take me a couple days to catch up fully. Somebody give me major points of interest if you don't mind. Also, do we have a full day or a few hours left in the cycle? Risen, VE and mattchew are scum. Mocsta is town despite a bonehead play to lynch a claimed doc with confirmed heal over Ceph. Ceph is a scummy coin flip despit Marv 's 100% scum promise. VE is scum. Risen is Scum. Mattchew is scum. Coag is confirmed town. That's about it. | ||
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On September 29 2013 15:06 Risen wrote: And what could possibly be more scummy than fakeclaiming doctor to kill a claimed doctor? "Scum wouldn't do something like that because they know they'd get lynched!" Really? Because it looks like Mocsta isn't getting lynched right now... so viable scum play? Fake claiming doctor was scummy as shit, Mocsta needs to die. BEFORE Mocsta, though, I think the people who tried to start movements away from Cephiro need to be examined. From a town perspective, there was going to be no other lynch. Proposing another lynch had only the potential to confuse people and allow for scum shenans (at that point they still have 6 people and once momentum starts elsewhere some idiot townie is bound to follow). The people that immediately jump to mind are Geript and VE. Not that anyone will listen to me, but risen has been pandering to the flavor of the day forever. Just shoot him and be done with it already. | ||
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On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote: I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum. Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player. Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on. So me attempting to move the wagon means that I'm specifically scum. Now you're bullshitting entirely because VE attempted to do the same exact thing but you're not 100% scum on him for that reason. You're scum and need to be shot and if a vig doesn't shoot you this game and instead listens to you and shoots me then I will rage so hard at that stupid motherfucker in postgame and obs thread that they'll wish their unborn child had died instead. | ||
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On September 30 2013 04:54 Risen wrote: Geript next because he's been harping on me STILL. He tried swaying the lynch away from Ceph at a time when that was possible with bad town play. I'm serious, his defense is probably either "Oh Risen top scum read so of course town me presses on him". No. Other defense possible would be "Oh I knew no one would swap but I wanted to pressure him". Still no. Lastly VE, who tried swapping to someone I can't remember at this point. I told him it was not town, and he continued. To me that reads as someone who figures if they stop it will be considered wishy washy and scummy. A town player wouldn't worry about that and would just keep the pressure up. Scum player would worry and keep the crazy on b/c he would try to appear consistent. This is reaching, though. After those other two are gone there will be like 6 more days of filter to look at for him, so no hurry. On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote: I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum. Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player. Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on. On top of all of the other bullshit he's spewing, he's not even reading his own posts. He's posting with 0 thought en total. He's not trying to figure out why Moc or I are scum. He's just trying to paint us red. He says one thing is towny, then in the next post he calls it scummy. RISEN IS NOT CONCERNED WITH GETTING A SCUM LYNCH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RISEN IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE HE'S CONCERNED WITH GETTING ANY AVAILABLE LYNCH FOR WHATEVER BULLSHIT REASON HE WANTS AT THE TIME!!!!! HE DOESN'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT WHO OR WHAT OR WHY OR WHEN. | ||
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On September 24 2013 08:17 Risen wrote: Wat... Worst justification for not voting FT ever. First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it. On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote: FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch. On September 24 2013 12:21 Risen wrote: EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE. Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy. On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote: No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid. Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM On September 25 2013 02:41 Risen wrote: That hasn't been confirmed. How do you know there's a framer/GF in this game? Nitpick here, but it seems pretty scummy to me. It isn't a full blown scumslip, but it's something a townie should realize before posting whereas someone with the knowledge that both roles are actively in the game might screw up. A town VA is someone I'd kill if I was scum. Dude pretty much had lynch armor because of my actions toward him. Though keeping him alive would have made a mislynch onto me much easier so maybe he wasn't a very good kill. My scum reads are Cephiro, FT, Mocsta, Sentinel First three have been explained, Sentinel because of what OO just pointed out. I'm down for lynching anyone here, but would definitely prefer Cephiro or FT. Probably FT at this point. Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list. On September 25 2013 02:46 Risen wrote: Because doctors have never tried to hide over being 100% transparent town. Cmon marv... This isn't even a defense of Matt, it's just me pointing out a flaw for your vote/unvote/vote. Why is Matt scum, again? I see no compelling reason to lynch Matt over FT. Marv should know this, especially since he's such a town leader at the moment and of the votes on Matt his is the only one that actually matters. Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion." On September 25 2013 04:50 Risen wrote: What a scummy defense making it try to look like the problem with Cephiro is apathy over the glaring faults in his posting. So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player. On September 25 2013 12:40 Risen wrote: FT saved yesterday, not getting lynched today. Makes sense. DP was right about mods saving FT b/c he's scum, imo. More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum. On September 25 2013 14:24 Risen wrote: I think he's been told by his scum buddies to keep quiet and not to mess things up for himself and more than he already has. On September 25 2013 15:32 Risen wrote: Really hope Matt is scum or I'm going to be in a tight spot. In other news, lynch FT. I could see a marv lynch, too. Or Cephiro who is still absent. Mocsta with the ole' "lol your post is too long and I'm scum so that's too much effort to respond to/opens me up too much to appearing scummy so I'm not changing my mind" post. About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable. On September 26 2013 02:21 Risen wrote: I'm not moving my vote until it becomes clear Cephiro is going to be lynched over FT, who still, in spite of no redeeming qualities in his posting today, is not the leading lynch candidate. Team plz Still pushing FT over Ceph. | ||
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On September 30 2013 09:11 Koshi wrote: Ok so before I sleep. Kitaman confirmed town for anybody with a brain. Tomorrow I ll find our lynch. Mocsta/rayn/VE/Risen all energy on those 4 people. FT feels like crapshoot atm.... but he can be 5 target. Just use all available time on those. I'll look into all. But I know I prefer Mocsta for tomorrow. I DEMAND THAT YOU TELL USE WHY KITA IS CONFIRMED TOWN AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY YOU PREFER MOCSTA OVER RISEN | ||
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On September 30 2013 10:19 Mocsta wrote: he's town cos he still has a presence. basically scumhave no reason to post unless pressured. which is how most town are acting currently. therefore, koshis attempt to keep campaigning actively for a lynch, is townie by virtue. I wish he posted actual logic, buy its still more effort than 90% of the thread. Read my big ass post and tell me what you think of Risen and why I'm right. | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:27 Risen wrote: Yeah I have no idea why Umasi/Matt would be shot outside bluehunting. Horrible shots regardless. Anyways, anyone other than Mocsta want to give a concise reasoning as to why Mocsta shouldn't be the lynch today? Geript feel free to chime in on me being more scummy than Mocsta, it makes no sense and makes lynch #2 that much easier. Care to explain exactly why you think Mocsta is scum? You know like make a case and shit? | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:33 Risen wrote: So VE is the patsy. Ballsy, but understandable. It's the person I'd push as scum to save Mocsta. So why have you been "pushing off" lynching VE for a while then if you think he's the patsy? | ||
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