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here's the song i wrote while waiting: <3 bender edit: ahh just saw shiaopi's post. i've no issues with the replacement if pharcyd3 doesn't come back by tonight. | ||
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On September 04 2013 07:53 Chairman Ray wrote: Has everyone got their QT yet? You should have received one by now. missed this somehow earlier -- was posting from my phone. ray what do you mean by "everyone"? thought only mafia and masons get this privilege...... @holyflare - agreed that meta has its merits, especially in a newbie game. i think that newbies' meta could be easier to discern vs. vets because we aren't as self-aware in our game play. what i do find interesting is that per your comments, i went back to browse past games, and in the last game you were in, like the very first post i see you make right out of the gate advocates lynching all liars and lurkers. mind explaining the sudden change of heart? why initiate this topic of conversation? sure, you could argue about the "math" of not lynching, but while this ultimately comes down to a game about numbers (like survivor!) your speculation about the math of it all seems pointless to me, because how do you quantify something like the present value of future clues? the cost of inaction? etc etc. i like blurry's idea. it's a bit early for me to have much of an opinion, but why not: on the town-dar: umasi - a bit rude perhaps, but not afraid to tread on toes and call shit out. on the scum-dar: don't wanna seem like i'm just following you, but i gotta say lord velocity too. while my first instinct was also to be suspicious of holyflare for advocating no lynch, i think LV was a bit quick to FOS holyflare with a 1-liner just for that. because i could see several reasons why scum would prefer a lynch day 1. if anything they might even think they stand to gain more by lynching day 1 vs no lynch unless they're incredibly risk averse lol. | ||
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On September 04 2013 12:08 Holyflare wrote: That being said I'm not telling you my scum reads or especially my town reads at this moment in time. hahaha ok dude, we'll try our best to survive the night without your brilliant insights. can't promise that we will though. it's not in our hands. (yours...maybe?) | ||
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On September 04 2013 12:56 Holyflare wrote: Which is what happens later in the day when you can form a concise and accurate analysis and put them under pressure as it is nearer the deadline when they have less time to react and re-read the entire thread to formulate a post and so it is off the top of their head and memory. NOT when they have all the time in the world, the filters and the ability to talk with their allies in QT to formulate a counter strategy and or bandwagon. There is 0 pressure from calling somebody scum now. ok, L, what do you propose we do in the meantime then? | ||
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hahah but seriously if we're just going to talk about inconsequential shit, what's the point? also infii, killerdog, myrzeth, pharcyd3, where you guys at? | ||
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On September 04 2013 15:26 heavenz wrote: Umasi, is very aggressive, which is a townlike nature, but beeing aggressive on the first day with everyone just getting into isn't a big feat, so that reduces my town read of him at the moment, at least he called me out for my opening post, which was indeed worthless, and thought to be just a bit of a discussion starter before I went to bed (I didn't think the game would actually start yesterday). However Pharcyd3 also jumped on me with 1 post, 1 line, calling me out and then leaving the thread. At least equally scummy to my opening post, even more so that he just followed Umasi. There need to come more indeed. Lord Velocity, I don't have to quote here much as every post says: he doesn't like to get attention and tries to behave neutral / hide Holyflare is just doing his thing, posting much, but the content is mostly contentless. As he said himself, he is holding back his informations. Blurry good townread opening posts, focussing on the discussion. Chairman Ray, suspicious, or just weird? What is this about... Killerdog, started out with a strong town post, but then just keept summing Umasi's and Holyf.'s conversation up. I want to have more than you just repeating and summing up the last 5 posts. most Scum: Lord Velocity, Pharcyd3, Chairman Ray, Holyflare (until he stops holding back, which I assume will be on day 1, then we'll see.) most Town: Blurry, Killerdog, Umasi heavenz, were you doing a super speedy skim of the thread? because (a) i called ray out for that comment ages ago and (b) you provided thoughts on basically EVERY SINGLE POSTER last night save for me. hurts my feelings bro. to me, all you've done is provide a vague summary of everyone's comments with light FOS on a few players. i appreciate the sentiment if it's genuine, but this really does not sum up as a pro-town post to me. On September 05 2013 03:48 killerdog wrote: Bereft -Not got much on him, he was supportive of blurry's move to just out reads to get things going, and he was also disagreeing with Holyflare when it came to Holyflares decision to withhold his reads. However while Umasi took this as a queue to pounce on holyflare, Bereft seemed pacified by holyflare posting this: in response to killerdog's comment, i was by no means satisfied with holyflare's responses, but it seemed pretty clear to me that he was dead set from opining on any of us at that point and that he's confident his game play and method can catch scum. to me, this came down to more of a stylistic difference rather than scum vs non scum behavior, so i decided i'd rather just make a note of it and see how his posting evolves (as he hinted that it would with time) rather than eat up the discussion with bickering about differing playing styles. On September 05 2013 08:43 Umasi wrote: Voting vel is dumb, do not do it don't tell me what to do, you're not my parole officer. ok so it seems insane to me how badly LV's defense was in response to the BAREST of pressure placed upon him. On September 04 2013 13:14 Lord Velocity wrote: Okay so apparently I'm getting accused of being on a lot of people scum list which I think is unfair unfair, really? i'm willing to entertain the idea that he's an anxious townie and wanted to post something before he was accused of inactivity (i'm talking about his very first post, mind you, nobody had mentioned they thought he was scummy at this point) -- but at the same time, why would a townie be so anxious to throw out a comment that he hasn't really thought through, ie posting just for the sake of posting? also suspicious is the fact that he then tries to shift the blame to Umasi, 1 of the players who responded aggressively towards his comment iirc. i think also light suspicion was directed at] me. LV, if you have any questions to send my way, please go ahead and ship em over. i'm happy to expand on anything i've already written, because right now it looks to me like you're grasping at straws. unfortunately because he has no other game play for me to take a look at, i can't tell if this is just his town play. On September 04 2013 23:02 Lord Velocity wrote: A lot of people have also seemed to jump on the "Umasi Holy pro town Velocity scum" but nobody has even thought that it could be just shitty town. trust me, i'm heavily debating this right now. finally, fk man, have myrzeth or pharcyd3 posted anything?? (and no, i don't count pharcyd3's 1 liner as a post) | ||
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either that, or he's implying i'm just copying him / reiterating his opinion that heavenz first post was filler. one of the two. | ||
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On September 05 2013 12:08 Lord Velocity wrote: Nvm, I'm just saying you're legitimately holding what happened when I had no reads, and was panicking because of people saying I was on their scum list, with out providing major reasonings, mind you, and you go out and not even care about what good I've done the town but okay. What is your opinion on Umasi? Because you seemed to not mention him I don't think, you instead targeted the obvious, ummm, I do'nt want to say weaker to offend anybody, but less contributing? you could say, and left Umasi, Holy, Blurry, Chairman, Infill. I don't know if you're targeting us because you think we're the more suspicious, or if you don't want to give reads on the others? please clarify the good you've done the town. there are quote buttons above each post btw -- feel free to use them. are you saying it is unfair of me to hold you to your panicked posts? why are you so panicked in the first place? at that point in time there were no votes on you and you had like 40 hours before the end of the day cycle to defend yourself. if anything what i find unfair is you playing the weak card. why would i target the stronger posters who've gone out of their way to write thorough analysis vs. the posters who've written what seem to me to be filler posts? but for the sake of transparency, i am happy to give a rundown of my reads on the players. will need a couple mins to type this up. in the meantime since it seems like we're the only 2 online right now, why don't you respond to the above. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + one of the most active posters - the fact that he's willing to use his vote to pressure people makes him pro-town in my eyes. why? voting patterns can be one of the strongest ways to make a case against scum, so the fact that he's not wary to use his vote is encouraging 2. Infii + Show Spoiler + he wrote one main analytical post, but it's hard for me to take it seriously because he analyzes myrzeth's "/in" and pharcyd3's ridiculous 1-liner. really needs to step it up, will become increasingly suspicious if he continues to provide such fluffy analysis 3. heavenz + Show Spoiler + pretty much what i said in my above post - his post read to me like he's trying to appear townie while really contributing nothing. suspicion level = high 4. killerdog + Show Spoiler + he wrote a lot, none of which stood out to me save for a random post addressing "loaded questions". that seemed pointless and like a misplaced effort to seem helpful. be succinct and articulate? no shit. 5. myRZeth + Show Spoiler + there's literally nothing on this guy 6. Bereft + Show Spoiler + innocent! awesome pro-townie 7. Pharcyd3 + Show Spoiler + nothing on this guy either, his 1st post was a joke and not even worth addressing without the context of other posts 8. HolyFlare + Show Spoiler + originally i couldn't tell if he was scum trying to derail the conversation with discussion about playing methods, but i think as the game has progressed i'm starting to lean towards town. i think the main thing winning me over is the air of confidence his posts exude that he can and WILL catch scum. this could be a pretty bold strategy (esp in a newbie game), but with that kind of air, i expect results and good analysis from him. if he starts spouting off insubstantial shit i'd have to rethink my stance. 9. Lord Velocity + Show Spoiler + my posts above should be pretty clear ... i can't decide how much benefit of the doubt i'm willing to give you at this point 10. Chairman Ray + Show Spoiler + too many troll posts, don't have a read on him right now to be honest 11. LoneMeow + Show Spoiler + i'd really like to hear from lonemeow. so far, his only posts have been to ask other players what their opinions are. i can't tell if he's trying to steer conversation away from himself towards other players or if he's doing all of his analysis in his head only because it fucking sucks to type with 1 hand . funnily enough, his longest post in this thread is his description of his accident. (get well soon!) 12. Blurry + Show Spoiler + i liked his effort to generate interesting topics of conversation via posting scum / townie reads. that lessens my suspicions of him, but since then he's all but disappeared | ||
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On September 05 2013 18:22 myRZeth wrote: Being quiet is usually the best choice, at least on the SC2 Mafia Arcade game. You re able to observe everything and judge on your own. Don t worry, i m active hahaha WTF you've got to be kidding me. | ||
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myrzeth, I would like to see in the next 2 hours some (any!) indication that you are willing to rethink your stance and make an effort to contribute to discussion. I really don't want to have to lynch somebody who's evidently not grasping the core concept of forum mafia before they have a chance to learn and correct themselves, but if you don't post you leave me with little choice. | ||
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i will need to reanalyze over the weekend when i have more time, but for now, i remain solid on the point that lord velocity is scum, and i would like to add killerdog to that list. i've iterated this in multiple of my previous posts, but since almost nobody chose to vote with me, i'll build my case here again: LV starts off with a couple random lines saying he thinks anyone advocating no lynch is suspicious, and then proceeds to absolutely PANIC after blurry and myself say so far we're getting the strongest scum read out of him. at this point the game has barely started and there are only a couple posts from a few players, so was i definitely under the impression that he was scum and attempting to build a solid case against him? no, of course not. it's true that out of the few posts i had to look at, his was the most contentless and thoughtless at the time, but the main point of calling out his post was to initiate interesting discussion (ie take us away from the repetitive "to lynch day 1 or not to lynch" argument) as well as to gauge his reaction. his reaction was to complain that it was unfair, that he's new, that he's just a shitty town player -- basically a bunch of bullshit excuses. the main giveaway in my eyes is that he comes after the people who accused him; first umasi, then blurry, then inevitably me. and i say 'inevitably' because i repeatedly call him out and his only way of defending himself thus far has been to go offense on the accuser. this is not pro-town behavior whatsoever as he's not taking a step back to reevaluate his actions and explain his thought process, but purely a defense mechanism of someone feeling like they've been backed into a corner. also, i really want to call everyone's attention to this post: On September 05 2013 06:04 Lord Velocity wrote: So I think Killerdog is safe to say town because of his willingness to give reads, scummy or not scummy, on everybody who provided information, because if he was mafia then he could've gave his Mafia buddies away with the reads but that would be a major slip so I'm going to assume that he's town just purely on that like, page long read list. I would base a circle off him if I were trusted but I'm pretty sure I'm not getting into any circles right now. Now I think that Holy is more iffy in the whole, Umasi/Holy argument seeing as Umasi wants to know more about the group we have before us and he wants more reads on who he should trust (Forgive me if I got that wrong umasi) and who could be trusted. But Holy hasn't pointed any suspicion towards anybody else and he's targeted me this game and a little bit of focus went onto Umasi but I believe that's resolved now. I personally would like to hear more of Holy's reads on others, prefferably his thoughts on Heavenz and Lonemeow. I've already stated that Umasi seems more town of the pair, and Killer seems town, ummmm sorry I just focused more on them this post because they stood out the most so I read their stuff so I will now go read people individually, feel free to ask me who you want a read on and I will get back to you, I just got home so I might be doing hw for the next hour or so maybe let me give you the timeline for this: + Show Spoiler + On September 05 2013 13:00 Bereft wrote: 1. Umasi + Show Spoiler + one of the most active posters - the fact that he's willing to use his vote to pressure people makes him pro-town in my eyes. why? voting patterns can be one of the strongest ways to make a case against scum, so the fact that he's not wary to use his vote is encouraging 2. Infii + Show Spoiler + he wrote one main analytical post, but it's hard for me to take it seriously because he analyzes myrzeth's "/in" and pharcyd3's ridiculous 1-liner. really needs to step it up, will become increasingly suspicious if he continues to provide such fluffy analysis 3. heavenz + Show Spoiler + pretty much what i said in my above post - his post read to me like he's trying to appear townie while really contributing nothing. suspicion level = high 4. killerdog + Show Spoiler + he wrote a lot, none of which stood out to me save for a random post addressing "loaded questions". that seemed pointless and like a misplaced effort to seem helpful. be succinct and articulate? no shit. 5. myRZeth + Show Spoiler + there's literally nothing on this guy 6. Bereft + Show Spoiler + innocent! awesome pro-townie 7. Pharcyd3 + Show Spoiler + nothing on this guy either, his 1st post was a joke and not even worth addressing without the context of other posts 8. HolyFlare + Show Spoiler + originally i couldn't tell if he was scum trying to derail the conversation with discussion about playing methods, but i think as the game has progressed i'm starting to lean towards town. i think the main thing winning me over is the air of confidence his posts exude that he can and WILL catch scum. this could be a pretty bold strategy (esp in a newbie game), but with that kind of air, i expect results and good analysis from him. if he starts spouting off insubstantial shit i'd have to rethink my stance. 9. Lord Velocity + Show Spoiler + my posts above should be pretty clear ... i can't decide how much benefit of the doubt i'm willing to give you at this point 10. Chairman Ray + Show Spoiler + too many troll posts, don't have a read on him right now to be honest 11. LoneMeow + Show Spoiler + i'd really like to hear from lonemeow. so far, his only posts have been to ask other players what their opinions are. i can't tell if he's trying to steer conversation away from himself towards other players or if he's doing all of his analysis in his head only because it fucking sucks to type with 1 hand . funnily enough, his longest post in this thread is his description of his accident. (get well soon!) 12. Blurry + Show Spoiler + i liked his effort to generate interesting topics of conversation via posting scum / townie reads. that lessens my suspicions of him, but since then he's all but disappeared On September 05 2013 13:35 killerdog wrote: Good morning again, three hours sleep best sleep :D (8 am lectures should die in a fire) First off, I'd like to address why I jumped so hard on the edit. LV had a rather shaky start, and responded rather badly to the pressure Umasi put on him at the very beginning. He had just started making a more actual posts but I still didn't really have any read on him. When I saw that he had made a post then edited it, I figured I had main options. 1, I tell chairman ray to chill out, that it was not something worth starting a lynch train on, and maybe put a bit of pressure on ray or something. 2, I go on him full force and see what happens. There were two main reasons I went with the second option. Firstly, he's already proven to be weak to pressure, and I was curious to see how he'd respond the second time. A few of the more "scummy" elements of his first defence had been pointed out to him, and if he'd replied either really quickly (making the "back in a few hours" thing very sketchy) or if he'd replied with a long, well worded, well thought out argument, I would have been pretty suspicious of him because it would have been such a dramatic change from the last time. Secondly, There was always the chance that someone who had been relatively quiet/noncommital had jumped onto the vote train behind me, which would have given a lot of information depending on who they were. His defence felt very natural, It was all one giant paragraph, lots of run on sentences, it just didn't feel like something which had been proofread very much or anything like that, whereas I feel a mafia would likely have put a lot of time/thought into formulating that defence if they actually felt under real pressure. Furthermore, his first two posts in the thread, (before game started): I felt that these two things made him having just not read the rules properly more plausible, having a good handle on the how mafia works might lead to just skimming the rules rather then carefully reading them, whereas a total beginner or someone who's played forum mafia before would probably not make that mistake. Thats why I pressured really hard for a few posts then backed off again. I was surprised that he mentioned finding me suspicious as a result, given that he'd named me as town just a few posts above, but I don't see why a mafia would do that, it seemed more like sloppy play due to stress then being a particularly town or mafia move. @Bereft, the reason I said it felt like you were placated was because you were going on him quite hard, then he said that his style was to highlight posts you question and ask for explanations, and you go And then vanish. It just felt a bit like either you felt like you'd "done your bit" or his answer fully satisfied you, because talking about the other game just felt a bit like you were looking for a way to end the conversation, rather then agreeing or disagreeing with him. I can see how that doesn't contradict your reasoning for posting it the way you did though. Also, the focus shifted off LV after the first pressure thing, my feeling of the general consensus at the time was that he had screwed up, but we were willing to (at least for now) attribute that to inexperience, and he made a few posts giving his views on things. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426146¤tpage=14#268 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426146¤tpage=14#274 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426146¤tpage=15#281 Nothing groundbreaking, but more then quite a few other people had done at that point. The votes to lynch were more reactions to the edited post, (as was umasi saying "don't vote vel"). I can see how these changes in mood can be hard to pick up on if you read the whole thread at once though. Also a point which i think is worth raising now. Given that we have to have voted for someone/sleep with 18 hours, and there is still a player who hasn't posted, (myrzeth,) If we lynch someone, say pharcyd3, and then myrzeth gets modkilled, what effect does that have on the game, and if we have a confirmed mod kill would it be better to sleep? I'm in a hurry to get to class so I don't have time to think about it properly right now, but I think we need to have a plan in place to account for the chance of there being a mod kill on myrzeth. Mod question, If myrzeth doesn't show up by midnight CET, does he just die, or does a replacement get put in. Browsing the thread, the only two replacements i noticed were koshi and someone else, but you said koshi had way too many games for a newbie mafia, and the other guy mentioned only doing it if apeture mafia didn't start, which it has. basically, he states that CLEARLY killerdog must be town because he's not afraid to give up his opinions on all the players. killerdog's post was a half hour after i had done a full breakdown on all my reads. does lord velocity acknowledge my list at all? am i CLEARLY town as well for providing all my reads? nope. so far, LV has shown himself to be a rookie mafia player, and this post is in line with his previous behavior -- a very transparent attempt to distance himself from his team mate. what i like is that several hours later he tries to back pedal from this: On September 05 2013 09:01 Lord Velocity wrote: I'm terribly sorry if it was suspicious and I myself have become suspicious of Killer and Chairman in the process. which to me really comes off as someone who has been told from his scummy partner to change his tune and be less obvious. from killerdog's side i also see evidence of feigned suspicion on his team mate. he votes for lordvelocity because of the edit, but then later takes it off with the explanation "His defence felt very natural, It was all one giant paragraph, lots of run on sentences, it just didn't feel like something which had been proofread very much or anything like that, whereas I feel a mafia would likely have put a lot of time/thought into formulating that defence if they actually felt under real pressure." hahaha what? ALL of lordvelocity's posts have been one giant paragraph with lots of run on sentences. that proves nothing. from dismissing suspicion of LV because of a supposedly good defense by LV (show me please?) all of a sudden LV becomes a non n1 lynch candidate and he promptly jumps on the myRZeth followed by the Chairman Ray bandwagon. cutting this off a bit abruptly because it's pretty late -- hope you guys will use this post as food for thought and go back and reread both of these posters' content to see if you think my points have validity. looking forward to the weekend when i can reread the thread and post a bit more analysis. | ||
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On September 06 2013 13:29 Holyflare wrote: You should have posted all of that at the end of the night... I know I know, but there's slim to no chance I'll be around to post anything lengthy right before the night post comes out. so would rather say it now than not at all... | ||
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@HolyFlare FINALLY someone else sees it. posting from my phone right now, will be around to post if not tonight then definitely tomorrow. | ||
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On September 07 2013 19:00 Holyflare wrote: This looked scummy as fuck - if he was town, why would he vote another town to save himself, it didn't make sense. in response to this, i think it's pretty obvious to me why he would rather save himself than the guy who's been useless as fk this entire game and said like 2 sentence max... | ||
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On September 08 2013 02:55 infii wrote: Oh and another thing: I have been roleblocked last night. I guess that makes me a more likely target for the next nk. HolyFlare, surprised you didn't comment on this. this is basically a blue claim, no? unless regardless of your role you always get a notification. mods, do you get a role block notification regardless of your role or only when your action has been successfully role blocked? | ||
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umasi how does this change your vote? do you believe it? if no one else counterclaims that they got roleblocked, it seems to me that either: (a) infii is 100% town and we have a severine in our midst (b) infii is on the mafia team and knows the roleblock is a safe claim to make (i.e. there's no severine in this game) | ||
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On September 06 2013 06:07 killerdog wrote: Whats your response to my points in favour of not voting for him? my bad, busy week so missed this earlier. there's a decent possibility that he's an inexperienced town -- i'll give you that. that being said, your argument to keep him alive because (a) he's leaving a huge bread crumb trail but (b) we wouldn't learn anything if he flipped today are contradictory. should he have flipped red, think we would already have lots to analyze. what i'd like to know is why you switched your vote to chairman ray at the last minute. looking at your post history, you say the following: Personally I'm leaning towards lynching myrzeth, because from the way he responded to people challenging his silence, and the fact he still hasn't come in with a post bigger then a one liner, means I don't think he's going to suddenly be super contributive tomorrow. I'd rather not have to spend half a day arguing with someone about play styles again, or even worse have him just dissappear and then being in a situation day 2 where there might be a strong mafia read we want to lynch, but having to choose between lynching the afk lurker or the mafia read. And if he turns out to be mafia thats just a perk. On September 06 2013 05:19 killerdog wrote: That post was a bit longer then i meant it to get, but basically I see our choice right now as being, 1. lynch myrzeth for shitty town play (and if we get lucky and hit a mafia, yay win) 2. lynch someone as a scum read, the a few people are pushing for LV in particular. I also think chairman ray has been a bit suspicious compared to other people, but I've seen a few people put him down as one of their town reads so thats moved him (temporarily) down on my scum list. 3. lynch someone else for shitty town play, but I don't see anyone else as anywhere near as potentially useless at myrzeth seems to be looking. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, as my vote on myrzeth suggests, he's my current preferred target, just because I don't see him being anything other then a liability if left alive, but I'm open to suggestions. then all of a sudden with zero explanation: On September 06 2013 06:33 killerdog wrote: I really don't like letting myr live til day 2, but hopefully he'll start playing the game tomorrow. We wont lose from a second mislynch (if ray is town) so I guess it's not the end of the world if we have to kill myr off tomorrow for still being afk. ##vote chairman ray i agree you've gone out of your way to explain why you don't think LV is a good day 1 lynch candidate. but what's your explanation for suddenly switching to ray with zero explanation when you were so adamant that myrzeth was the best choice before? myrzeth may have been lynched had you kept your vote on him. i'd like to hear about your change of heart. | ||
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reasons include: a. he sux bawls b. it's pretty clear - he's not going to change his mind about lurking anytime soon c. i think there's definitely 1 scum in the bunch that voted for ray. the sudden piling of votes onto ray was weird. i'm wondering if the shift of votes had anything to do with myrzeth being mafia and his mafia buddies freaking out with him about to get lynched in any case i would like to hear from killerdog why he switched his vote as well as from the town why another player may be a better candidate for lynch today. | ||
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On September 08 2013 13:11 Holyflare wrote: well I find it hard to believe that all 3 scum are on the ray bandwagon, pharcy is modkill, velocity is gonna get replaced, bereft and heavenz i don't think are scummy so that only really leaves infii i'm not saying i think all 3 are on the ray bandwagon -- they would just have needed 1 to tip the scale. | ||
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On September 08 2013 11:51 Holyflare wrote: i feel like it's a myrz pharcy3d - insert random player here scum team trololol hahaha yeah i'm starting to think 1 of the inactives is definitely scum, if not both. | ||
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On September 09 2013 07:29 infii wrote: Oh wow that totally slipped by... no idea how I could have overlooked that :D ? HAHA holyflare man that's practically impossible to spot... i'm bereft and i didn't catch that one. | ||
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On September 09 2013 07:42 killerdog wrote: I was basing all my logic off the fact that pharcyd3 got away with a warning after he failed to vote, rather then a mod kill. So it didn't even occur to me that myrzeth would get modkilled for failing to vote once. Also I had very strong reads on umasi and heavenz, and was pretty sure lonemeow was the third, I just felt like if i said anything about it the chances of me dying that night were rather high. I remember while i was writing one of my earliest posts (this one i think) + Show Spoiler + On September 05 2013 03:48 killerdog wrote: ok here are my current reads/opinions on people. ... HolyFlare -Holyflare seems to be involved in everything, early on he was very much in control of the flow of debate, bringing up sleeping n1, then not being afraid of disagreeing with people. However once Blurry suggested sharing reads he pretty defensive/confrontational. Regardless of his orientation, to me he feels like a rather charismatic player who doesn't want to just scrape by being passive and answering questions, but rather wants to be one fo the people in the driving seat, and that might be why he reacted to blurry taking the initiative like he did. There were three people who stood out to me as pressuring him on his refusal to share reads. -Bereft, who seemed to be satisfied by holyflares response, -Blurry, most of blurry's posts seem to be things holyflare disagreed with, or vice versa -Umasi, who ended up going hard on holyflare. To be honest I'm having a hard time getting any kind of read off of him. He's stated that his style is "asking off the cuff questions about posts" to catch people off guard. Something he's been consistent in doing. He also didn't seem to change his posting style, or go super defensive when umasi voted for him. He's talking alot (most posts of anyone i think) and doing a good job asking questions but the way he reacted to being asked for reads was a bit dereailing and very uncooperative. He hasn't really given any evidence to prove himself town so far. He's talking a ton about the over all "metagame" of mafia, and a lot about mafia tactics in general but basically nothing relevant to this game itself. It takes more then asking other people questions to prove yourself a townie, and refusing to give any analysis on the other players at all, while still expecting people to answer all your questions is asking for a lot. Still very much on the fence about him and I'm starting to regret interrupting Usami when i did. ... I found myself about to write something like "Holyflare seems to feel that he's more important to the town then most other people, I'm getting either a mafia or a blue role read off him, but leaning strongly towards blue because of his activity/aggro" Then realised how stupid that was to post, and just noted it down in my notes. Almost really fucked up lol yo good reads killerdog. i was moderately suspicious of you after your day 1 post, but after your posting during day 2 i was convinced you were town. | ||
Bereft
United States1007 Posts
On September 09 2013 07:47 Umasi wrote: alright, I'll shut up. Why did you guys let heavenz live after his entrance post? it seemed like a pretty obvious joke to me. also LOL @: Who do you guys think we should shoot? I think we can actually hold off on holyflare, if he gets nked, and then I don't, as one of the 'pretty obv town leaders', it's gonna look awful. as is I'm thinking of shooting one of the two dudes with B as the first letter can't be assed to go find the full names, like bereft and blurry I think screw you umasi! n1 i was debating between protecting you, holyflare, and blurry my 3 town reads. i figured there was slim to no chance blurry would get shot since he was non-threatening and protected you. GG ME. | ||
Bereft
United States1007 Posts
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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
On September 09 2013 18:34 ShiaoPi wrote: The doctor had a quite difficult choice between blurry, Holyflare and Umasi. I have not received any PM regarding the role though so I was wondering why bereft chose to hold his save. haha ShiaoPi did you see this: On September 09 2013 07:52 Bereft wrote: screw you umasi! n1 i was debating between protecting you, holyflare, and blurry my 3 town reads. i figured there was slim to no chance blurry would get shot since he was non-threatening and protected you. GG ME. Original Message From mkfuba07: I wouldn't say it's invalid (I assume you mean your night action, not your vote), but we might have different people handling day posts each time. If the person doing it doesn't receive the PM, then they might not know that you sent one in. It kinda makes it a 1/3 chance that the host writing the daypost actually gets your action XD i did try to use my save on n1, but was pretty tied up all day so pm'd on my phone and forgot that i needed to pm all 3 hosts ><; not that it would've made a difference since i picked umasi. would've been mad at myself if i'd wound up picking blurry and my save didn't go through. i didn't pick blurry because even though he and i were totally on the same page, i didn't think he'd be an obvious choice for nk because i found his posting nonthreatening (i even recall someone describing him as "gentle"? lol). also @koshi - admittedly i fucked up my day 2 vote, forgetting who you were replacing (megalolz). problem was that i also felt a last minute vote switch would stir up the dirt (considering how inactive the game was and mafia was probs on cruise control), not realizing that LV and myrzeth were both getting modkilled. basically didn't realize that if we lynched an active non-scum, this was effectively end game... felt like the equivalent of thinking i was on my 2nd last lap of a 5k, mustering energy for the last 400m sprint--and then discovering the race was over. haha. also i was surprised at how pissed you were yesterday. granted, there was a lot of reading you had to do to catch up on, but all the rest of us players had been invested since like..tuesday? while you were in the game for a grand total of 3 hours :p | ||
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