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He picks Alak who has 19 pages, had 6 in his scum game of B2B, when he said he wanted to lynch lurkers. Also called Alak a lurker. Lol, may be useless, but not a lurker. His push yesterday was unfocused, came at the last second. On December 02 2013 07:12 Holyflare wrote: What's up! I don't think we should lynch cheesecake today by the way, he has only really been discussed VERY recently and you have had no back and forth, austin you are in agreement (presumably because half the things you said on coag were what I said in my case) on coag and he HAS been discussed and was part of the original lynch plan. I am much more comfortable lynching him over cheesecake unless you can wholeheartedly convince me otherwise. ##Vote Coag This contrasts with his push of saying to lynch Alak, who no one was really talking about before. Seems out of place. A lot of his lynch didn't make sense. Next, despite him saying that Oats was quote: "Scummy as hell", he was never a serious canidate for Holy. That's weird to me considering he said quote: "scummy as hell." Next, if Holy had been the only sane townie, then why did mafia shoot Vayne and not Holy, the last beacon of sanity. I would still rather lynch Coag. I still doubt SS got shot only for his role block nature, and that he was right on only one scum. Onegu next. Then we'll go from there. | ||
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On December 04 2013 08:12 Alakaslam wrote: Do you see it, pandain/Coag? I am epically scum. I pushed myself when it wasn't lylo-mylo- close whatever, now you need this nagging doubt that I'm scum. My voting pattern is essentially :O Thrawn so wise :O BC so wise :O sheep time So I look more scum than scum. Risen on the other hand had something to give the game and people weren't even gonna lunch him till he pushed himself so hard he determined the game off his flip. However I just remembered cheese flipped town Why aren't we Hold on Okay fine if you want it that bad we can lynch you after Coag and then lose the game. gratz | ||
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But then again I'm not confident anyone is scum | ||
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 12-02-2013 08:01 PM ET (US) CLOSED 52 onegu 12-02-2013 07:00 AM ET (US) Have you reread hopeless yet? 51 onegu 12-01-2013 02:40 PM ET (US) You mean oats? Because I felt better about a CC lynch after what austin said. Like basicly its odd oats hasnt really pushed a lynch, and he didnt vote BC, but CC looks much worse with his read switches and the risen thing. 50 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:00 PM ET (US) Why did you Unvote cc 49 onegu 12-01-2013 01:12 PM ET (US) yeah I dont like hopeless much, and like to be honest I dont put that much stock on what dead scum have said, like if you are null that can tip the scale, but it shouldnt make someone town or scum on its own. 48 Pandain 12-01-2013 01:08 PM ET (US) Yeah hopeless suspicious because of his "oh can't convince anyone pandain is scum so I won't do shit" 47 onegu 12-01-2013 11:12 AM ET (US) /m43 the bus part is in reference to /m6 What are your thoughts on that? 46 onegu 12-01-2013 10:38 AM ET (US) I thought he actually voted BC, yeah Im good with a oats vote. 45 onegu 12-01-2013 10:29 AM ET (US) Wait did oats not vote BC? 44 onegu 12-01-2013 10:26 AM ET (US) Actually LMs post on oats looks good I could go with that. 43 onegu 12-01-2013 08:20 AM ET (US) Is this a bus then? Yeah I feel you and austin are for sure town Coag, grack, LM and VA are likely town Slam is a coin flip that leaves oats and hopeless in the likely scum HF and MRCC as scum Im ok to vote for anyone in the bottom 4 but prefer MRCC as a HF lynch wont happen at this stage. 42 onegu 12-01-2013 05:40 AM ET (US) Also I really dont like how Mr. Cc came back into the thread, like I said I was going to make a case on him then austin steals my thunder while I am trying to write things from my tablet. But no CC says my case is opportunistic.... 41 onegu 12-01-2013 05:34 AM ET (US) Grack is town, i thoight he might be scum earlier with his trolling, but he has kept it up the entire game, was early on BC, and voted thrawn also. Not much to say on LM, I still hold to the statement a scum team isnt going to let him mason a town yamato day 1, it just isnt going to happen. And LM would ask before doing amything, I have been scum with him twice and he always asks. I still have no idea why HF thinks otherwise if he is town after playimg scum with him in hogwarts. 40 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:35 AM ET (US) Oats/Cheesecake are my top reads definitely. 39 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:26 AM ET (US) I completely understand haha that's more important 38 onegu 12-01-2013 02:47 AM ET (US) I believe you are town, a scum mason wouldnt mason me its not worth it as I was a very likely person to die today and my voice carries little weight. Also I have a handicapped son that is very handicappped and when he has any kind of issue I have to give him 100% of my attention so I am still readimg as there was a problem with my sons trach when he rolled over. He is sleeping now so I shouldnt have more interuptions. 37 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:17 AM ET (US) This better be the best filter analysis I've ever heard in my life 36 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) I'll give reasons why I should be town to you, because I think you're going to need to trust me. Only three votes are out right now. You're an easy lynch, and no one else is going to get lynched except you, Cheesecake, or Oats. I don't think CC is conclusive enough. Here's why I'm town: 1. All my mason choices have been clear town. First three were Supersoft, BC, and then Mig. That shows lack of fear, and my mason logs are pretty legit. Esp B.C., where we disagree a lot and there's actually emotional conflict in there. I masoned Grack which makes sense because Grackapack. I masoned Hopeless and now you to figure out your guys' alignment. All town mason choices unlike Thrawn who with masons like Koshi and Rayne shows that he was scared. 2. Most people who are dead thought I was town. I masoned SS and Mig, and they're confirmed town, and they had strong town reads on me. Prob cuz they liked me in mason chats. 3. I've clearly shown an interst to lynch scum, not just Oats. I'm talking with you and trying to figure out who is scum, actually getting conversation started. 35 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:10 AM ET (US) I think I've filtered everyone so let me know if you have any comments, questions, or anything. 34 onegu 11-30-2013 11:48 PM ET (US) Will do you and VA today as I have no other plans for today. Then I still want to get to HF. 33 onegu 11-30-2013 11:46 PM ET (US) Grack and then LM 32 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:22 PM ET (US) Who are you filtering now 31 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:12 PM ET (US) He wouldn't be afraid I would catch him hahahaha 30 onegu 11-30-2013 11:11 PM ET (US) Maybe he was afraid you would catch him so he just shut up. I can see where you are comeing from with oats, I havent played enough with him to know his meta well. I just know he doesnt do much but is in your face about it. I could vote him, would prefer a CC or HF lynch. Im going to finish my filter reads today. 29 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:32 PM ET (US) Also Hopeless like didn't even give the apperance of wanting to talk to me in our chat. He was like "Lol scum nice try", which doesn't seem like a mafia thing to do 28 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:08 PM ET (US) I'm decidely less sure on a Cheesecake lynch. He might just genuinely think you are scum after all you were somewhat suspicious 27 Pandain 11-30-2013 04:48 PM ET (US) This is not town Oats. He is way too passive in picking lynches and going after people. Seems way more indicative of mafia then town, who have an objective to find scum. 26 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) And it's not that he hasn't made a case, it's that he hasn't even pushed a lynch except Risen against Thrawn. And it's day 6. That's not Oats 25 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) Eh Hopeless also was the target of conversation of BC. I forget if he said it to SS or me, but he said he wanted to lynch him. That's not certain since BC didn't push him, but I think it's something to note. I just think Oats is way better to be honest. Hopeless could just be playing bad, is there any reason why he's SCUMMY 24 onegu 11-30-2013 01:07 PM ET (US) Yeah and as town he never made anything close to a case like that in hogwarts. He did make one case as town in WC2 mafia, but it looks much more thought out and in depth ill link it for you http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...currentpage=91#1815 23 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 PM ET (US) Rayn was first, its almost like he saw who a really vocal townie made a case then added a bit and made his own case, because he doesnt talk about you before that and then tunnels you the rest of the game. 22 onegu 11-30-2013 12:55 PM ET (US) Moment I need to look whose case on you was up first rayn or hopeless. 21 onegu 11-30-2013 12:53 PM ET (US) And jeez does he tunnel you into oblivion. Did you do something to him in mason chat that got deleted? Then a flip onto thrawn, and then a risen vote and never heard from again. I think he has a better chance to flip scum than oats tbh. Like look what he does with LM and coag. He brings them up only to say they should be ignored until lylo? Yes he voted for thrawn and BC, but the timeings seem off, like thats who he had to vote for. He had a town read rayn, so he cant vote him. I guess he could habe voted risen, but that still doesnt save BC. And he was lateish to the party on thrawn also. 20 onegu 11-30-2013 12:36 PM ET (US) And have you actually read hopeless case on you? Man you are confirmed scum (sarcasm), because you KNOW mig is town and letting scum see his notes. That case seems kinda forced, he never did anything like that in hogwarts iirc I need to check. 19 onegu 11-30-2013 12:32 PM ET (US) The wishy washy I will give you his reads go all over the place. you mean the twrawn lynch he was all risen is scum, then all of a sudden risen martyring is townie but vote risen. 18 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:07 PM ET (US) He never led his own lynch. He was very wispy washy on all scum and tried to stop a risen lynch 17 onegu 11-30-2013 07:54 AM ET (US) Im fairly null on oats, other than being wromg alot, calling out people for not finding scum day one then not finding scum. Then says SS is scummier than BC changes to BC late with little reason then is like am I still scum, I was right about BC. Then wrong about mig, wrong about risen, wrong about multiple people, Right about VE lol. And not really doing anything. Like I could lynch him but I feel much better Mr. Cc is scum. 16 onegu 11-30-2013 03:19 AM ET (US) Ok I am going to my wifes dermatologist first then the mall, the doctors office doesnt have wifi but the mall does. I have Oats filter open and all on one page so I can read while I am there, also have grack, and hopeless open also. Other than you I have town reads on everyone else, except HF and I will work on those later. Null on you, but doubt you would mason me as scum. 15 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Ok Im going to shower I will be back in a few and start my read of oats. 14 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Let me know when you read Oats. And I 100% agree. I haven't told him that thought because I want to see how he reacts. If he is faking it, then we have to keep him on the suspicious line so he feels pressured. Otherwise, if he's scum and played the insane card he'll keep doing it 13 onegu 11-30-2013 12:56 AM ET (US) /m11 But I also dont think scum slam would martyr like he is. This is why I have a very hard time reading slam. 12 onegu 11-30-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) Ok, I will push him to the back burner for now. 11 onegu 11-30-2013 12:47 AM ET (US) I am finishing catching up now and slam looks really bad for his reason to not want to lynch oats. But also yes slam is normally that confused. 10 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) helped gurantee it* 9 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) Honestly Holy pushed both BC and Thrawn, and while you can say he did it because they were about to die, or momentum was shifting that way, he helped shield it. I think if we slowly lynch more scum his alignment will become more clear. And if we hit lylo, then he can be up. But don't go after him first. 8 onegu 11-30-2013 12:42 AM ET (US) I will read oats today while I am out. Also when I wrote the CC thing it was 330am for me and I knew I was going out today, sorry for peaceing out. 7 onegu 11-30-2013 12:40 AM ET (US) I agree. Also you need to look more at hogwarts mafia, not b2b for holy meta. Holy knew he had to switch his playstyle up in b2b, and did so commenting on you havent seen me play like this as town or scum. 6 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:38 AM ET (US) Actually, cheesecake is even more sketchy then I thought. Like not really putting analysis out there yet throwing reads on people, doubt he could support them to be honest. At one point he was like "oh god this guy is scummy, this guy too". Then later "shenanigans to other people?" Just weird play, but I think Oats/CC, if they are scum, are on the same team tbh. Not definitive but it makes sense to me. And I think Oats is more likely to flip scum. 5 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:34 AM ET (US) Cheesecake came out of nowhere to make a giant post on a part that most people weren't thinking about: Risen being town. It was also a weird thing to make a post about; he didn't do any actual analysis, just a reflection and a game plan. I think he could be scum. 4 onegu 11-30-2013 12:18 AM ET (US) good morning. 1. some real life stuff happened and I missed over 24 hours of the game. 2. I planning on makeing a updated case on him. I cannot shake the feeling of him being scum 3. Yes for the portion leading up to it I was afk in both games I was playing that is when I had irl stuff come up. 4. HF, Mr. Cheesecake. Not coag. Will do my filterdive of oats today and see what I think of him. 5. I have a really hard time reading slam. He came into the game with a new attitude than previous games and I felt he was town for it, but now he has basicly dropped it, started posting in codes and not makeing sense. This doesnt sit well with me but he wouldnt be my lynch choice for today. I am going to the mall today but believe it or not that is when I get the most work done in game while my wife shops. What are your thoughts on cheesecake? As I read these filters Ill let you know what I am feeling and see if we are on close to the same page. 3 Pandain 11-29-2013 10:27 PM ET (US) What do you think about slam? 2 Pandain 11-29-2013 08:15 PM ET (US) Hey you have a lot of questions to answer 1. Why have you been so lackluster this game 2. What do you think about HF now 3. Were you just totally gone during the Thrawn lynch 4. Who do you want to lynch today. 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-29-2013 08:08 PM ET (US) Pandain + Onegu mason Day 6/Night 6 | ||
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Now you're trying to lead town to lynch Slam with poor reasoning. As I said, Slam unvoting doesn't mean it's town or scum, it just means its weird. Risen played weird, he wasn't scum. He brought huge suspicion to himself. I think something to point out is that slam never tried to push someone away from Thrawn, and no one ended up unvoting thrawn, and I think both of these things point to the fact that mafia just bussed thrawn. And Onegu, Slam, and I are the ones who didn't vote Thrawn. And I'm not scum. So there's at least one scum who voted thrawn, and I have town reads on Slam and Onegu(less). And here you are saying there has to be at least one scum off the thrawn wagon when it's extremely extremely extremely likely they bussed. Furthermore you think I'm scum. I will post my mason logs, there should be no doubt by my interactions with BC in particular that I'm town. | ||
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 08:04 PM ET (US) CLOSED 50 supersoft 11-17-2013 07:59 PM ET (US) was nice chatting to you! cu in thread ^_^ 49 supersoft 11-17-2013 07:59 PM ET (US) my oats-case is extremely real! he needs to die! 48 supersoft 11-17-2013 09:20 AM ET (US) well, yes masoning BC is a good idea. Please do that. Also if you have another ability combined with your masonpower, please make sure to protect BC. 47 Pandain 11-16-2013 11:10 PM ET (US) In like 12 hours or so when I wake up:p 46 Pandain 11-16-2013 11:05 PM ET (US) I'm going to give you a scum analysis of storr that I've noticed can you critique it 45 Pandain 11-16-2013 10:26 PM ET (US) well idk do what you want. I think I'm going to push BH tomorrow 44 Pandain 11-16-2013 10:25 PM ET (US) if your a mason btw i would start a town circle with ve and yam. 43 Pandain 11-16-2013 09:24 PM ET (US) getting town read on sharrant he's playing like previous games 42 Pandain 11-16-2013 08:28 PM ET (US) Do you think I should mason BC tomorrow and if so what are your thoughts on his alignment and how should I approach him. 41 Pandain 11-16-2013 08:24 PM ET (US) what if everyone is a mason lol you are too 40 Pandain 11-16-2013 08:13 PM ET (US) Have you played with Mocsta before? 39 Pandain 11-16-2013 08:12 PM ET (US) Wasn't that sure on Skanjabs but happy I was right. I would say definitely not three masons but the problem is that I have two roles so I can very easily conceive others having multiple roles. And Lone seems town to me 38 supersoft 11-16-2013 08:12 PM ET (US) ah yes, btw. that was a typical VEs move. That's why i didnt want him in the office. He wasted 10 minutes of time and he didnt discuss his choice. 37 supersoft 11-16-2013 07:19 PM ET (US) Gj, so far. The thread looks good right now. We cannot let a paranoia last minute voteswitch happen. I've seen these things far too often and it's never good. We need to settle on VE and myself. 36 Pandain 11-16-2013 06:52 PM ET (US) Oops Basically I don't know I have too many thoughts vote who you want 35 Pandain 11-16-2013 06:51 PM ET (US) Idk do 34 Pandain 11-16-2013 06:45 PM ET (US) Without the tracker thing I say lynch Vayne or sharrant. 33 Pandain 11-16-2013 05:35 PM ET (US) I would lynch Vayne or Rayne. You can also lynch mig if you want but I'm far less confident on him then you are. 32 supersoft 11-16-2013 05:26 PM ET (US) hmm hmm this is difficult.. i am very tired tbh... i think i'll take a nap for about 90 minutes and come back later... you might be right, depending on how accurate my "list" is, voting me could be alignment indicative. I just hope Yamato doesnt get into office ._. 31 Pandain 11-16-2013 05:16 PM ET (US) Anyone who votes you is a town tell to be honest. Unless you're totally wrong of course. 30 Pandain 11-16-2013 03:56 PM ET (US) lynch liars unless they can have a benefit, BH's wouldn't for town. BH is a liar or he's awful 29 Pandain 11-16-2013 03:54 PM ET (US) why then I dont see how unless BH just did a really piss poor play which I wouldn't think he would with a tracker claim 28 supersoft 11-16-2013 03:45 PM ET (US) you might be overthinking this topic :-P 27 Pandain 11-16-2013 03:42 PM ET (US) is my reasoning actually bad im pretty confident or thought i was 26 Pandain 11-16-2013 03:12 PM ET (US) I heavily think Rayn is scum. I also think BH is scum, since he didn't admit he was retarded if he was tracker claiming tracker that means he supposedly thought about it beforehand. That's like cop claiming, you don't do it. His role is pretty important why claim tracker. If he's not, that invites actual trackers to claim. Don't like 25 Pandain 11-16-2013 03:06 PM ET (US) Btw since your town I'm also a veteran 24 supersoft 11-16-2013 02:56 PM ET (US) there is no new light. Both of them are useless trolls. Rayn even wants to lynch me. That idiot has no idea what he's doing. I tried to get something useful out of rayn, when i wanted him to analyze kosh. He proved himself as completely useless back then and that is still the case. Regarding BH i found something very interesting, i shared it in the thread! 23 Pandain 11-16-2013 02:22 PM ET (US) What do you think of Rayn and BH with new light. I think I'll vote you though who will you lynch as of now 22 supersoft 11-16-2013 01:57 PM ET (US) pandain, you fail to vote me. I am disappointed! 21 supersoft 11-16-2013 11:45 AM ET (US) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373946 look what VE did lategame. He did nothing. He got manipulated and almost modkilled. You don't want him to be mayor. period. 20 supersoft 11-16-2013 11:41 AM ET (US) BH is probably scum... mig is scum, too. coag is also one of my scumreads. Yamato isn't scum, you're right there, but he's no player you want to see in office. The day yamato gets elected into office over me, is the day I quit playing mafia. If marv, syllo, sandro, wbg, palmar or toad or anyone reasonable would be in this game, besides BC and mig (he's scum though) a Yamato mayor could NEVER happen. it blows my mind, that people consider voting for him. Same applys to a lesser degree on VE. Yes he's town, so what? VE is writing everything down he's thinking as town, therefor he's easy to read. But he doesn't kill scum by that. wait a second, I'll show you a game where I was scum and VE was town and I played him like a fiddle. 19 Pandain 11-16-2013 11:15 AM ET (US) What do you think about bh 18 Pandain 11-16-2013 11:11 AM ET (US) Not scummy but bad 17 Pandain 11-16-2013 11:11 AM ET (US) Actually yams recent post was pretty bad 16 Pandain 11-16-2013 11:09 AM ET (US) Btw the above paranoia and such thing was a joke 15 Pandain 11-16-2013 11:09 AM ET (US) I already trust you I didn't mason you to find out if your town. I think Yamato is really clearly town however. I also think he's not a dick as mayor which wouldn't relate to your scum hunting abilities. I think hopeless and Rayn are good scum possibilities. The only thing holding me back from scum mig is I would've thought he would play better as scum if he were scum. Is that a wrong way to approach him? 14 supers 11-16-2013 11:01 AM ET (US) i dont play the game for you. decide if you trust me or not research me. I get shot almost every game at n1. if i survive i do horrible things to scumteams. i need you to trust me on some things otherwise this QT is useless. if you don't help me, you're pushing a scumagenda. i dont want to cuddle with you around. i want that you see that i am town, even though you want to believe i am scum, because you dont like me. BC trusts me and he's undesputable an experienced and smart player. VE trusts me, too. 13 Pandain 11-16-2013 09:57 AM ET (US) I feel like I'm not finding out much from you. Who do you think is town? 12 Pandain 11-16-2013 09:39 AM ET (US) I'm noting paranoia, unwillingness to work with others, 11 supers 11-16-2013 09:11 AM ET (US) lol you're scum. this conversation ends here. 10 Pandain 11-16-2013 08:58 AM ET (US) To clarify I think your claims are unwarranted he would be mayor in a game of mafia not a king of a nation. I don't believe he is paranoid( without reason), maybe selfish but I couldn't say, and he can be convinced like anyone else. You yourself could be said to have the characteristics you see in him 9 Pandain 11-16-2013 08:51 AM ET (US) I'm not going to Unvote him for those reasons and why do you think BC is town. 8 supers 11-16-2013 08:36 AM ET (US) vote BC or me. It's important now. I am probably going to slaughter mig. Got to discuss that with BC first. 7 supers 11-16-2013 08:32 AM ET (US) you need to unvote him. Yamato in office is a worst case scenario for us. he is selfish, paranoid and no teamplayer. We cannot let this happen. 6 Pandain 11-16-2013 08:27 AM ET (US) Hi I'm going to be away from my desktop for like 12 hours. I think yam is town, he's been active throughout and I like his points. Also what I said about us having probably similar thoughts in this game if he's town is true. Idk about mig I gave you all my reads. Do you agree on aka jabs. I confused him a bit with spaghetticus 5 supers 11-16-2013 03:08 AM ET (US) omg you need to unvote yamato right now -_- 4 supers 11-16-2013 03:03 AM ET (US) what do you think about mig? who do you think should get elected? 3 supersoft 11-16-2013 01:29 AM ET (US) hi, I'll be here in about 6 hours. See you. 2 Pandain 11-15-2013 08:36 PM ET (US) Town: yam/ve/Mocsta/Skanjabs/Austin(less sure)/LoneMeow(masoned Yamato, lol scum isn't going to do that),Spaghettic(maybe, nothing to lend me as scum though he's not certain town. I like his post which while listy it was SO comprehensive so that made me think it's serious effort. At least not lynchable for this day, probably next) Hopeless/Storr best scum reads. Storr is so playing newbie card it actually hurts. I hate how much he is appealing to it. And yet he's running for mayor what? Think BC is suspicious tbh but it's mainly that he's not focusing his scumreads and his reads were really bad and I do have a high opinion of his reads. Artanis is also suspicious to me. what do you think is a scum-tell for you and how do you approach the game differently. 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-15-2013 07:34 PM ET (US) Pandain/supersoft Day1/Night1 BC + Show Spoiler + Pandain 11-20-2013 07:27 PM ET (US) Bye love you 32 Pandain 11-19-2013 05:34 PM ET (US) I didn't know this. I specifically asked if I was town to you and you ignored it. When you avoided the issue I found it suspicious. But I think you're town anyway so I'm going to continue analyzing other people 31 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-19-2013 05:32 PM ET (US) You'll find that when I am told by someone I trust that hes telling someone they should mason me that theres reason for it. I took that reason as trust and given that I had my own town read on you why wouldnt I share? Seriously, I shouldn't have to explain town reads. 30 Pandain 11-19-2013 05:27 PM ET (US) SS was actually suspicious of me up until we left being mason partners, there's no way I would know that he now thinks I'm town. I wasn't worried about you claiming in thread, just you claiming to me when I didn't know you had reasons for thinking I was town since you never explained them. 29 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-19-2013 05:25 PM ET (US) I told you for this. I know you were masoned to him day 1, so was I. I figured you'd like to know that hey, I have a huge town read on SS, he has town read on you. Ill be upfront with you and trust a guy I think is town. Why did I not want to claim actively in thread? BECAUSE RAYN WAS FUCKING FISHING. His entire theory was centered on bh being a mason who masoned a specific player. My issue with actively claiming is fucking outing two blues for no fucking reason. The fact I think your town means hey, maybe I should share info with you in the offchance i you know, die? 28 Pandain 11-19-2013 04:08 PM ET (US) Also I think after seeing Rayn the best way to play as mafia is to spam so fucking much no one wants to analyze you 27 Pandain 11-18-2013 11:42 PM ET (US) I mean you did and you told me who you want to mason 26 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 10:27 PM ET (US) I didn't actively claim mason to you tbh. Its a subtle claim I used on ve because VE is one of now 3 people who know I masoned him yesterday.(provided SS didn't tell you yesterday) I have told ss I think mig is unlikely to be mafia for those reasons yes. I also don't remember a game where scum kept those kind of notes. However in the days I played super actively there were very few people who kept notes in general on a google doc that anyone could access. 25 Pandain 11-18-2013 10:12 PM ET (US) With ss* 24 Pandain 11-18-2013 10:11 PM ET (US) This is also besides but did you share the mig notes with mig. I'm also wondering if you've ever played a game where scum kept notes like that, mig is a busy man he doesn't have time to pull shenanigans like that 23 Pandain 11-18-2013 10:10 PM ET (US) Like you revealing your a mason is so weird to me considering I was probably pretty suspicious day one trying to save Mocsta. I don't know why you would post it here for me to see 22 Pandain 11-18-2013 09:56 PM ET (US) Did you think I was town before this because I'm interested why you would claim mason to me when you berated Rayn for trying to find out masons 21 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 09:51 PM ET (US) I think hes like me and just gets way to heated way to fast and gets lost in things -_- I need to step back and look at this shit with a fresh perspective so Ima lay off grack for now and attempt to look elsewhere. Hopeless still looks like trash though. 20 Pandain 11-18-2013 08:33 PM ET (US) It's prob a combination of him being right plus him being a dick 19 Pandain 11-18-2013 04:20 PM ET (US) also rayn pisses me off every time he posts I'm going to just ignore him now 18 Pandain 11-18-2013 03:38 PM ET (US) Do you think I'm town 17 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 12:23 PM ET (US) I don't know what to make of this entire bit going on right now with rayn and oats. Both are doing things that make me think "town all the way" but both are also doing things that just seems so fucking scummy 16 Pandain 11-18-2013 12:04 AM ET (US) oh sorry meant not going to do a real analysis until tomorrow 15 Pandain 11-18-2013 12:00 AM ET (US) I haven't yet analyzed Oats, not going to do a real analysis(don't think I've been playing like I should, I only do quick glimpses and have too much confirmation bias.) But I'm noting now that his response to being accused strikes me as very town. Quickly dismisses SS almost comicly and then moves onto other things. Not a long response to the post, but instead a townie response like a "Lol" 14 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 11:24 PM ET (US) scratch the bit on his analysis promising totally misread one of his posts -_- I still think he looks bad but he didn't promise anything. 13 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 11:22 PM ET (US) given how little time hes had in the game hes doing really well establishing himself. I really really really don't like hopeless1nder He comes back after 2 full days of absence and promised to read up and post an analysis on holyflare and not only is he not really contributing anything on return, or before he left, but he had 2 days to fucking write something on a player and he hasn't released it. More than enough time to read up and post thoughts by now. 12 Pandain 11-17-2013 11:03 PM ET (US) I think Thrawn is town so far he's pushing people for his reads, questioning, and overall seems unafraid 11 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:52 PM ET (US) im currently filter diving mocstas scum games to see how he interacts with his teammates. Hoping to find some gem in there that will sort out his filter a bit. 10 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:50 PM ET (US) yeah. This actually could clear him. I know that SS was somewhat suspect of him but I think this essentially clears him. The only minute chance I think would be him as an assassin but given that the notes are public very unlikely 9 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:50 PM ET (US) I think I have a problem though with trying to find "one" piece of evidnece that helps an alignment guess. I need to be more comprehensive, but this is definitely a plus for Mig. Although he's not active as of today, I misread it. I like his notes format though, I'm going to copy it for future games. 8 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:44 PM ET (US) Yeah there's no reason to think MIG is anything but town in my eyes; his inactivity is supplemneted by his obvious activity (even doing meta research and then updating) them in his notes Fact that only I probably knew it was a google drive and thus would be updated and visible to us supplements the idea that he's town. 7 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:42 PM ET (US) so I think it's intersting because he's clearly putting in a ton of effort when it wouldn't be recognized. If he was scum, he wouldn't need to do notes unless he wants to seem town and talk about them; problem is he did talk about them originaly (made me suspicious) but didn't later. Idk i think mig is town, lurking, waiting until he's confident. I played with him before and only thing is he was more active there, but I think he's just biding his time now 6 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:40 PM ET (US) actually that note thing is super intense 5 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:40 PM ET (US) I think mig is town because he's still updating his notes. https://docs.google.com/a/udel.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag5xQ7DQZXySdGlfcWVTaE5qbUJ3Wm91TUFGSFJsS0E&usp=sharing#gid=0 You can actually see them here He's lurking though because it's updated up to this cycle, so I don't know what that means 4 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:32 PM ET (US) been waiting for 30 minutes for a host to set it up, but Ill be having supersoft as my mason for the day. 3 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:03 PM ET (US) good day sir pandaman 2 Pandain 11-17-2013 08:10 PM ET (US) hi 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 07:59 PM ET (US) Pandain + BloodyC0bbler Day 2/Night 2 Hopeless + Show Spoiler + Pandain 11-22-2013 11:20 PM ET (US) EDIT DELETE So now that I'm pretty obvious town who do you think is scum and town 10 Pandain 11-22-2013 01:35 PM ET (US) stop lol I hope youre scum because if so this is extra hilarious 9 hopeless1der 11-22-2013 01:34 PM ET (US) Now you want to chat? Nah, not wasting my time. gg scum 8 Pandain 11-22-2013 01:28 PM ET (US) who else are you suspicious of and who do you think is town 7 Pandain 11-21-2013 11:00 PM ET (US) stop im not scum lol 6 Pandain 11-21-2013 05:43 PM ET (US) jk 5 hopeless1der 11-21-2013 05:41 PM ET (US) well that was fun, we should do this again some time. gotta go out shortly. If there was a point to masoning me be sure to mention for when I'm back. 4 Pandain 11-21-2013 05:33 PM ET (US) yes 3 Pandain 11-21-2013 05:33 PM ET (US) lol 2 hopeless1der 11-21-2013 05:24 PM ET (US) oh this should be good. you need me to proofread your case on rayn before you post it? 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-21-2013 05:02 PM ET (US) Pandain and Hopeless1der mason Day 3/Night 3 Mig + Show Spoiler + Mig, it was fun to talk I hope we can later walk the walk and chalk the scum to the dump 36 Pandain 11-29-2013 04:31 PM ET (US) mIg I'm BaD aT tHiS gAmE i need ur analysis 35 Pandain 11-29-2013 04:28 PM ET (US) To be frank I don't think Onegu is playing like mafia. Really the argument is that he's trying to deliberately act like a troll, and that seems to be more inaccurate an analysis then not that people always rely back on. 34 Pandain 11-29-2013 04:22 PM ET (US) Also scum are not setting up a coag lynch at all unless it's holy who I don't think is that scummy yet 33 Pandain 11-29-2013 04:05 PM ET (US) are you here I think the reason you might not have died was because you wanted to get risen lynched. Who you say to lynch tomorrow might influence whether you get shot, so it'll be a good indicator for us. 32 Pandain 11-28-2013 08:34 PM ET (US) going to mason onegu tomorrow and see what i can find 31 Pandain 11-28-2013 08:33 PM ET (US) Top four in my eyes are Cheesecake, Oats, and Holyflare, and onegu. And I don't think we should lynch Onegu tomorrow, instead Oats 30 Pandain 11-28-2013 08:17 PM ET (US) Going to look into Holy/Cheese tomorrow 29 Pandain 11-28-2013 08:10 PM ET (US) I cannot believe Risen played like that as town. 28 Pandain 11-28-2013 08:09 PM ET (US) remember when risen was like lol i hate town, will post random self proclaimed bs reads and make no attempt to save myself despite being alive for four real life days me too 27 Mig 11-27-2013 09:14 PM ET (US) I think austin is town. Regardless of Risen's alignment pushing thrawn so hard is good. He breadcumbed his vet claim. And when BC was fighting to survive right at the end of day3 austin was still arguing and fighting with him. If he was mafia with BC I think he sits back and lets BC try to save himself instead of still arguing 5 minutes before the lynch. And yea he has put a lot of effort into the game. 26 Pandain 11-27-2013 09:08 PM ET (US) Eh that analysis is a one trick pony though. I want to analyze Austin more in depth later 25 Pandain 11-27-2013 09:05 PM ET (US) Also he's be putting in way too much effort like even for a fake 24 Pandain 11-27-2013 09:02 PM ET (US) Austin probably town actually. Thrawn came into game and then immediately tried to trap him. Seems weird if mafia 23 Pandain 11-27-2013 07:48 PM ET (US) I cannot believe onegu is still posting in the other thread 22 Pandain 11-27-2013 07:31 PM ET (US) Like if risen is town: 1. Possibility of modkill because so anti town 2. Worst town play I've seen in a while 21 Mig 11-27-2013 07:27 PM ET (US) haha true, ok so from 99% to 99.7% 20 Pandain 11-27-2013 07:23 PM ET (US) It was already 99 percent likely risen is scum 19 Mig 11-27-2013 07:17 PM ET (US) If onegu doesn't return makes it way more likely Risen is mafia I think. Risen knows he can post some giant list of his reads right before lynch to look townie and it isn't a waste of time because onegu won't come back to vote. 18 Pandain 11-27-2013 07:08 PM ET (US) What do you think of the fact oats and Coag went super hard on each other 17 Mig 11-27-2013 07:05 PM ET (US) I still want to murder Risen. But onegu/oats/coag are shady 16 Mig 11-27-2013 07:04 PM ET (US) Can we lynch onegu. Look at his posts in his other game. They are so much better. 15 Pandain 11-27-2013 07:01 PM ET (US) I think grack is town masoning with him made me pretty sure he's genuine in trying to find people. I think it's more likely Austin is scum tbh then grack as far as conspiracy theories go 14 Mig 11-27-2013 06:53 PM ET (US) What are your thoughts on Grack? Confident he is town and there is nothing crazy bus scheme going on? 13 Mig 11-27-2013 06:47 PM ET (US) Well we don't know for sure they have a sb, and if they want to use it I say go for 1-1 trade right now is awesome for town. #2 point about Oats is really good I think. Looking back through BC/Oats history they avoided each other almost entirely. Even tho BC said he trusted SS completely and had the rber thing going for him why did he virtually never mention Oats and not push for his lynch at all? Seems like if Oats were town buddying up with SS getting him mislynched and then blaming SS would be an easy route to go. Oats in the same way almost completely avoids BC, at one point he says one of BC/SS is mafia then votes SS lol. 12 Pandain 11-27-2013 06:44 PM ET (US) LM doesn't play the game but now has to play it longer because be wont vote 11 Pandain 11-27-2013 06:26 PM ET (US) Eh I agree with Vayne it's not that big a deal 10 Pandain 11-27-2013 05:12 PM ET (US) I think it's important to try and lynh the sb if we can since that's an extra kp for them they can use laygame 9 Pandain 11-27-2013 05:09 PM ET (US) So risen probably isn't suicide bomber or he would have already destroyed someone. What do you think about going after someone else since mafia kp will stay same regardless 8 pandain 11-27-2013 04:58 PM ET (US) Thrawn masoned me and I masoned grack I think Slam is pretty solidly town. He was like pretty upfront about lynching rayn because he made the game awful, which seems far more townie then scum. I'm just not getting a scum read in anything he's doing. 7 pandain 11-27-2013 04:57 PM ET (US) Yeah a number of reasons 1. SS's point about immediately pointing to VE being assassin is indicative to me. 2. Grack's point in our mason thread, don't think he's shared it yet: Quote: (BC was masoned with SS the day before and knew that Oats was going to be pushed for being RB. I would think he would try to push that case forward more seeing as he was pushing me purely for being useless. ) 3. Extremely weak on THrawn. Called him scum earlier (dunno, kinda scummy), then later was saying no lynch Risen instead and was finding reasons for thrawn to be town. Didn't put his neck out too much though 4. Pushed Mocsta and was basically calling him scum or bad, but never pushed for him to get lynched 5. His lynchbait comment of "Mocsta is either jumping on lynchbait because he's town or because he's scum" was really weird to me, seemed useless. 6 Mig 11-27-2013 04:47 PM ET (US) Who did you choose to mason with yesterday? Thrawn masond with you right. What are your thoughts on CC/Slam? 5 Mig 11-27-2013 04:44 PM ET (US) Oh that is actually a good point about Lm giving up if hes the last scum. I was reading through his old games and he did forfeit one of the newbie games as the last scum. I am inclined to believe you/lm/hf are all town just because 5 town mason 2 mafia masons makes more sense than 4 town 3 mafia. That isn't really definitive tho. Hmmm, I honestly have no clue about Oats. I tried to research his games and I saw him get mislynched as town a ton of times. He seems fairly consistently useless. Can you explain more of why you think Oats is mafia? 4 pandain 11-27-2013 03:04 PM ET (US) Also if oats is scum, LM is town because he asked Austin how likely a Oats/Thrawn scum team is. So I think Oats should be lynched tomorrow first 3 pandain 11-27-2013 03:01 PM ET (US) I think Onegu is town. He gave a definitive "very townie" read on mocsta. He was very sketchy with voting ausitn in a useless vote that allowed rayn intead of risen to get lyched and didn't really push for Austin, but I think both coag and oats are more sketchy. I think LM is town, or will probably be town if he's the only scum left. Let me explain for a number of reasons. One, he's not playing a lot when it's important for scum to start being more active. Two, I think his masoning yamato is townie still. Third, if he's the only scum left I don't think he's the kind of guy who will keep playing. So if there's one scum left and they don't give up, that sort of points to a noob like LM not being the last scum. Finally, I think others are mor suspicious like Oats and Coag. 2 Pandain 11-27-2013 02:20 PM ET (US) Hi 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-27-2013 02:05 PM ET (US) Pandain and Mig mason Day 5/Night 5 Onegu + Show Spoiler + 53 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 12-02-2013 08:01 PM ET (US) CLOSED 52 onegu 12-02-2013 07:00 AM ET (US) Have you reread hopeless yet? 51 onegu 12-01-2013 02:40 PM ET (US) You mean oats? Because I felt better about a CC lynch after what austin said. Like basicly its odd oats hasnt really pushed a lynch, and he didnt vote BC, but CC looks much worse with his read switches and the risen thing. 50 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:00 PM ET (US) Why did you Unvote cc 49 onegu 12-01-2013 01:12 PM ET (US) yeah I dont like hopeless much, and like to be honest I dont put that much stock on what dead scum have said, like if you are null that can tip the scale, but it shouldnt make someone town or scum on its own. 48 Pandain 12-01-2013 01:08 PM ET (US) Yeah hopeless suspicious because of his "oh can't convince anyone pandain is scum so I won't do shit" 47 onegu 12-01-2013 11:12 AM ET (US) /m43 the bus part is in reference to /m6 What are your thoughts on that? 46 onegu 12-01-2013 10:38 AM ET (US) I thought he actually voted BC, yeah Im good with a oats vote. 45 onegu 12-01-2013 10:29 AM ET (US) Wait did oats not vote BC? 44 onegu 12-01-2013 10:26 AM ET (US) Actually LMs post on oats looks good I could go with that. 43 onegu 12-01-2013 08:20 AM ET (US) Is this a bus then? Yeah I feel you and austin are for sure town Coag, grack, LM and VA are likely town Slam is a coin flip that leaves oats and hopeless in the likely scum HF and MRCC as scum Im ok to vote for anyone in the bottom 4 but prefer MRCC as a HF lynch wont happen at this stage. 42 onegu 12-01-2013 05:40 AM ET (US) Also I really dont like how Mr. Cc came back into the thread, like I said I was going to make a case on him then austin steals my thunder while I am trying to write things from my tablet. But no CC says my case is opportunistic.... 41 onegu 12-01-2013 05:34 AM ET (US) Grack is town, i thoight he might be scum earlier with his trolling, but he has kept it up the entire game, was early on BC, and voted thrawn also. Not much to say on LM, I still hold to the statement a scum team isnt going to let him mason a town yamato day 1, it just isnt going to happen. And LM would ask before doing amything, I have been scum with him twice and he always asks. I still have no idea why HF thinks otherwise if he is town after playimg scum with him in hogwarts. 40 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:35 AM ET (US) Oats/Cheesecake are my top reads definitely. 39 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:26 AM ET (US) I completely understand haha that's more important 38 onegu 12-01-2013 02:47 AM ET (US) I believe you are town, a scum mason wouldnt mason me its not worth it as I was a very likely person to die today and my voice carries little weight. Also I have a handicapped son that is very handicappped and when he has any kind of issue I have to give him 100% of my attention so I am still readimg as there was a problem with my sons trach when he rolled over. He is sleeping now so I shouldnt have more interuptions. 37 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:17 AM ET (US) This better be the best filter analysis I've ever heard in my life 36 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) I'll give reasons why I should be town to you, because I think you're going to need to trust me. Only three votes are out right now. You're an easy lynch, and no one else is going to get lynched except you, Cheesecake, or Oats. I don't think CC is conclusive enough. Here's why I'm town: 1. All my mason choices have been clear town. First three were Supersoft, BC, and then Mig. That shows lack of fear, and my mason logs are pretty legit. Esp B.C., where we disagree a lot and there's actually emotional conflict in there. I masoned Grack which makes sense because Grackapack. I masoned Hopeless and now you to figure out your guys' alignment. All town mason choices unlike Thrawn who with masons like Koshi and Rayne shows that he was scared. 2. Most people who are dead thought I was town. I masoned SS and Mig, and they're confirmed town, and they had strong town reads on me. Prob cuz they liked me in mason chats. 3. I've clearly shown an interst to lynch scum, not just Oats. I'm talking with you and trying to figure out who is scum, actually getting conversation started. 35 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:10 AM ET (US) I think I've filtered everyone so let me know if you have any comments, questions, or anything. 34 onegu 11-30-2013 11:48 PM ET (US) Will do you and VA today as I have no other plans for today. Then I still want to get to HF. 33 onegu 11-30-2013 11:46 PM ET (US) Grack and then LM 32 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:22 PM ET (US) Who are you filtering now 31 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:12 PM ET (US) He wouldn't be afraid I would catch him hahahaha 30 onegu 11-30-2013 11:11 PM ET (US) Maybe he was afraid you would catch him so he just shut up. I can see where you are comeing from with oats, I havent played enough with him to know his meta well. I just know he doesnt do much but is in your face about it. I could vote him, would prefer a CC or HF lynch. Im going to finish my filter reads today. 29 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:32 PM ET (US) Also Hopeless like didn't even give the apperance of wanting to talk to me in our chat. He was like "Lol scum nice try", which doesn't seem like a mafia thing to do 28 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:08 PM ET (US) I'm decidely less sure on a Cheesecake lynch. He might just genuinely think you are scum after all you were somewhat suspicious 27 Pandain 11-30-2013 04:48 PM ET (US) This is not town Oats. He is way too passive in picking lynches and going after people. Seems way more indicative of mafia then town, who have an objective to find scum. 26 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) And it's not that he hasn't made a case, it's that he hasn't even pushed a lynch except Risen against Thrawn. And it's day 6. That's not Oats 25 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) Eh Hopeless also was the target of conversation of BC. I forget if he said it to SS or me, but he said he wanted to lynch him. That's not certain since BC didn't push him, but I think it's something to note. I just think Oats is way better to be honest. Hopeless could just be playing bad, is there any reason why he's SCUMMY 24 onegu 11-30-2013 01:07 PM ET (US) Yeah and as town he never made anything close to a case like that in hogwarts. He did make one case as town in WC2 mafia, but it looks much more thought out and in depth ill link it for you http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...currentpage=91#1815 23 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 PM ET (US) Rayn was first, its almost like he saw who a really vocal townie made a case then added a bit and made his own case, because he doesnt talk about you before that and then tunnels you the rest of the game. 22 onegu 11-30-2013 12:55 PM ET (US) Moment I need to look whose case on you was up first rayn or hopeless. 21 onegu 11-30-2013 12:53 PM ET (US) And jeez does he tunnel you into oblivion. Did you do something to him in mason chat that got deleted? Then a flip onto thrawn, and then a risen vote and never heard from again. I think he has a better chance to flip scum than oats tbh. Like look what he does with LM and coag. He brings them up only to say they should be ignored until lylo? Yes he voted for thrawn and BC, but the timeings seem off, like thats who he had to vote for. He had a town read rayn, so he cant vote him. I guess he could habe voted risen, but that still doesnt save BC. And he was lateish to the party on thrawn also. 20 onegu 11-30-2013 12:36 PM ET (US) And have you actually read hopeless case on you? Man you are confirmed scum (sarcasm), because you KNOW mig is town and letting scum see his notes. That case seems kinda forced, he never did anything like that in hogwarts iirc I need to check. 19 onegu 11-30-2013 12:32 PM ET (US) The wishy washy I will give you his reads go all over the place. you mean the twrawn lynch he was all risen is scum, then all of a sudden risen martyring is townie but vote risen. 18 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:07 PM ET (US) He never led his own lynch. He was very wispy washy on all scum and tried to stop a risen lynch 17 onegu 11-30-2013 07:54 AM ET (US) Im fairly null on oats, other than being wromg alot, calling out people for not finding scum day one then not finding scum. Then says SS is scummier than BC changes to BC late with little reason then is like am I still scum, I was right about BC. Then wrong about mig, wrong about risen, wrong about multiple people, Right about VE lol. And not really doing anything. Like I could lynch him but I feel much better Mr. Cc is scum. 16 onegu 11-30-2013 03:19 AM ET (US) Ok I am going to my wifes dermatologist first then the mall, the doctors office doesnt have wifi but the mall does. I have Oats filter open and all on one page so I can read while I am there, also have grack, and hopeless open also. Other than you I have town reads on everyone else, except HF and I will work on those later. Null on you, but doubt you would mason me as scum. 15 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Ok Im going to shower I will be back in a few and start my read of oats. 14 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Let me know when you read Oats. And I 100% agree. I haven't told him that thought because I want to see how he reacts. If he is faking it, then we have to keep him on the suspicious line so he feels pressured. Otherwise, if he's scum and played the insane card he'll keep doing it 13 onegu 11-30-2013 12:56 AM ET (US) /m11 But I also dont think scum slam would martyr like he is. This is why I have a very hard time reading slam. 12 onegu 11-30-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) Ok, I will push him to the back burner for now. 11 onegu 11-30-2013 12:47 AM ET (US) I am finishing catching up now and slam looks really bad for his reason to not want to lynch oats. But also yes slam is normally that confused. 10 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) helped gurantee it* 9 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) Honestly Holy pushed both BC and Thrawn, and while you can say he did it because they were about to die, or momentum was shifting that way, he helped shield it. I think if we slowly lynch more scum his alignment will become more clear. And if we hit lylo, then he can be up. But don't go after him first. 8 onegu 11-30-2013 12:42 AM ET (US) I will read oats today while I am out. Also when I wrote the CC thing it was 330am for me and I knew I was going out today, sorry for peaceing out. 7 onegu 11-30-2013 12:40 AM ET (US) I agree. Also you need to look more at hogwarts mafia, not b2b for holy meta. Holy knew he had to switch his playstyle up in b2b, and did so commenting on you havent seen me play like this as town or scum. 6 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:38 AM ET (US) Actually, cheesecake is even more sketchy then I thought. Like not really putting analysis out there yet throwing reads on people, doubt he could support them to be honest. At one point he was like "oh god this guy is scummy, this guy too". Then later "shenanigans to other people?" Just weird play, but I think Oats/CC, if they are scum, are on the same team tbh. Not definitive but it makes sense to me. And I think Oats is more likely to flip scum. 5 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:34 AM ET (US) Cheesecake came out of nowhere to make a giant post on a part that most people weren't thinking about: Risen being town. It was also a weird thing to make a post about; he didn't do any actual analysis, just a reflection and a game plan. I think he could be scum. 4 onegu 11-30-2013 12:18 AM ET (US) good morning. 1. some real life stuff happened and I missed over 24 hours of the game. 2. I planning on makeing a updated case on him. I cannot shake the feeling of him being scum 3. Yes for the portion leading up to it I was afk in both games I was playing that is when I had irl stuff come up. 4. HF, Mr. Cheesecake. Not coag. Will do my filterdive of oats today and see what I think of him. 5. I have a really hard time reading slam. He came into the game with a new attitude than previous games and I felt he was town for it, but now he has basicly dropped it, started posting in codes and not makeing sense. This doesnt sit well with me but he wouldnt be my lynch choice for today. I am going to the mall today but believe it or not that is when I get the most work done in game while my wife shops. What are your thoughts on cheesecake? As I read these filters Ill let you know what I am feeling and see if we are on close to the same page. 3 Pandain 11-29-2013 10:27 PM ET (US) What do you think about slam? 2 Pandain 11-29-2013 08:15 PM ET (US) Hey you have a lot of questions to answer 1. Why have you been so lackluster this game 2. What do you think about HF now 3. Were you just totally gone during the Thrawn lynch 4. Who do you want to lynch today. 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-29-2013 08:08 PM ET (US) Pandain + Onegu mason Day 6/Night 6 Lonemeow + Show Spoiler + 18 LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted 12-02-2013 12:45 AM ET (US) I was afk/asleep for most of D5/N5, then figured I didn't want to mason someone for the last 12 hours or so because I'd just be limiting my options for the following cycles. 17 Pandain 12-01-2013 09:48 PM ET (US) sorry wrong name filled in, that was a joke one from my thrawn mason chat. "why didn't you mason anyone day 5" 16 thrawn(actually pandain) 12-01-2013 09:48 PM ET (US) why didn't you mason anyone day 5 15 Pandain 12-01-2013 06:49 PM ET (US) You here? 14 Pandain 12-01-2013 03:55 PM ET (US) Logs* 13 Pandain 12-01-2013 03:55 PM ET (US) Actually with you in mason love you look pretty good too so don't think I would lynch you 12 Pandain 12-01-2013 03:29 PM ET (US) I'll be talking a lot more at night or in like 3-4 hours I can only post on my phone. I did have a Strong town read on slam but if it comes down to only one scum left then everyone is up for grabs except for me, and Austin 11 LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted 12-01-2013 03:13 PM ET (US) Would Alakaslam seem like a reasonable third scum? His voting history is absolutely terrible, and despite having reasonably sized filter he hasn't actually *said* almost anything nor taken stances on anyone. 10 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:48 PM ET (US) Yeah that's why I'm not defending CC too hard. 9 LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted 12-01-2013 02:00 PM ET (US) Is it possible that CC and Oats are both scum? 8 Pandain 12-01-2013 01:46 PM ET (US) He's just wrong but not scummy the reasons are ok by flawed 7 LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted 12-01-2013 01:42 PM ET (US) What's your view on austinmcc calling Oatsmaster town? 6 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:56 PM ET (US) I think cheesecake is a good bet. And then it's possible onegu is scum that they are bussing, or hf or even maaaybe Vayne And yeah grack is town in my eyes 5 LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted 12-01-2013 10:28 AM ET (US) Also I'd love to hear what you think of Grackaroni and the fact that the flipped scummers seemed to be pushing him for pretty much the entire game. 4 LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted 12-01-2013 07:29 AM ET (US) You're currently voting Oatsmaster. I agree that he's scummy as hell, but I'm having trouble with figuring out who could be his buddies. Assuming we lynch him and he flips red, who would you lynch next? 3 LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted 12-01-2013 06:16 AM ET (US) Posted the logs, sorry about the delay, decided to take yet another nap before I finished that. 2 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:28 AM ET (US) What's up dude? Can you paste your mason logs in the thread? 1 Adam4167Person was signed in when posted 12-01-2013 03:47 AM ET (US) LoneMeow+Pandain D6/N6 Upgrade to PRO Upload pictures, personalize your board, and more! About these ads | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:46 Pandain wrote: Here's my log with BC btw + Show Spoiler + Pandain 11-20-2013 07:27 PM ET (US) Bye love you 32 Pandain 11-19-2013 05:34 PM ET (US) I didn't know this. I specifically asked if I was town to you and you ignored it. When you avoided the issue I found it suspicious. But I think you're town anyway so I'm going to continue analyzing other people 31 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-19-2013 05:32 PM ET (US) You'll find that when I am told by someone I trust that hes telling someone they should mason me that theres reason for it. I took that reason as trust and given that I had my own town read on you why wouldnt I share? Seriously, I shouldn't have to explain town reads. 30 Pandain 11-19-2013 05:27 PM ET (US) SS was actually suspicious of me up until we left being mason partners, there's no way I would know that he now thinks I'm town. I wasn't worried about you claiming in thread, just you claiming to me when I didn't know you had reasons for thinking I was town since you never explained them. 29 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-19-2013 05:25 PM ET (US) I told you for this. I know you were masoned to him day 1, so was I. I figured you'd like to know that hey, I have a huge town read on SS, he has town read on you. Ill be upfront with you and trust a guy I think is town. Why did I not want to claim actively in thread? BECAUSE RAYN WAS FUCKING FISHING. His entire theory was centered on bh being a mason who masoned a specific player. My issue with actively claiming is fucking outing two blues for no fucking reason. The fact I think your town means hey, maybe I should share info with you in the offchance i you know, die? 28 Pandain 11-19-2013 04:08 PM ET (US) Also I think after seeing Rayn the best way to play as mafia is to spam so fucking much no one wants to analyze you 27 Pandain 11-18-2013 11:42 PM ET (US) I mean you did and you told me who you want to mason 26 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 10:27 PM ET (US) I didn't actively claim mason to you tbh. Its a subtle claim I used on ve because VE is one of now 3 people who know I masoned him yesterday.(provided SS didn't tell you yesterday) I have told ss I think mig is unlikely to be mafia for those reasons yes. I also don't remember a game where scum kept those kind of notes. However in the days I played super actively there were very few people who kept notes in general on a google doc that anyone could access. 25 Pandain 11-18-2013 10:12 PM ET (US) With ss* 24 Pandain 11-18-2013 10:11 PM ET (US) This is also besides but did you share the mig notes with mig. I'm also wondering if you've ever played a game where scum kept notes like that, mig is a busy man he doesn't have time to pull shenanigans like that 23 Pandain 11-18-2013 10:10 PM ET (US) Like you revealing your a mason is so weird to me considering I was probably pretty suspicious day one trying to save Mocsta. I don't know why you would post it here for me to see 22 Pandain 11-18-2013 09:56 PM ET (US) Did you think I was town before this because I'm interested why you would claim mason to me when you berated Rayn for trying to find out masons 21 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 09:51 PM ET (US) I think hes like me and just gets way to heated way to fast and gets lost in things -_- I need to step back and look at this shit with a fresh perspective so Ima lay off grack for now and attempt to look elsewhere. Hopeless still looks like trash though. 20 Pandain 11-18-2013 08:33 PM ET (US) It's prob a combination of him being right plus him being a dick 19 Pandain 11-18-2013 04:20 PM ET (US) also rayn pisses me off every time he posts I'm going to just ignore him now 18 Pandain 11-18-2013 03:38 PM ET (US) Do you think I'm town 17 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 12:23 PM ET (US) I don't know what to make of this entire bit going on right now with rayn and oats. Both are doing things that make me think "town all the way" but both are also doing things that just seems so fucking scummy 16 Pandain 11-18-2013 12:04 AM ET (US) oh sorry meant not going to do a real analysis until tomorrow 15 Pandain 11-18-2013 12:00 AM ET (US) I haven't yet analyzed Oats, not going to do a real analysis(don't think I've been playing like I should, I only do quick glimpses and have too much confirmation bias.) But I'm noting now that his response to being accused strikes me as very town. Quickly dismisses SS almost comicly and then moves onto other things. Not a long response to the post, but instead a townie response like a "Lol" 14 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 11:24 PM ET (US) scratch the bit on his analysis promising totally misread one of his posts -_- I still think he looks bad but he didn't promise anything. 13 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 11:22 PM ET (US) given how little time hes had in the game hes doing really well establishing himself. I really really really don't like hopeless1nder He comes back after 2 full days of absence and promised to read up and post an analysis on holyflare and not only is he not really contributing anything on return, or before he left, but he had 2 days to fucking write something on a player and he hasn't released it. More than enough time to read up and post thoughts by now. 12 Pandain 11-17-2013 11:03 PM ET (US) I think Thrawn is town so far he's pushing people for his reads, questioning, and overall seems unafraid 11 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:52 PM ET (US) im currently filter diving mocstas scum games to see how he interacts with his teammates. Hoping to find some gem in there that will sort out his filter a bit. 10 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:50 PM ET (US) yeah. This actually could clear him. I know that SS was somewhat suspect of him but I think this essentially clears him. The only minute chance I think would be him as an assassin but given that the notes are public very unlikely 9 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:50 PM ET (US) I think I have a problem though with trying to find "one" piece of evidnece that helps an alignment guess. I need to be more comprehensive, but this is definitely a plus for Mig. Although he's not active as of today, I misread it. I like his notes format though, I'm going to copy it for future games. 8 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:44 PM ET (US) Yeah there's no reason to think MIG is anything but town in my eyes; his inactivity is supplemneted by his obvious activity (even doing meta research and then updating) them in his notes Fact that only I probably knew it was a google drive and thus would be updated and visible to us supplements the idea that he's town. 7 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:42 PM ET (US) so I think it's intersting because he's clearly putting in a ton of effort when it wouldn't be recognized. If he was scum, he wouldn't need to do notes unless he wants to seem town and talk about them; problem is he did talk about them originaly (made me suspicious) but didn't later. Idk i think mig is town, lurking, waiting until he's confident. I played with him before and only thing is he was more active there, but I think he's just biding his time now 6 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:40 PM ET (US) actually that note thing is super intense 5 Pandain 11-17-2013 10:40 PM ET (US) I think mig is town because he's still updating his notes. https://docs.google.com/a/udel.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag5xQ7DQZXySdGlfcWVTaE5qbUJ3Wm91TUFGSFJsS0E&usp=sharing#gid=0 You can actually see them here He's lurking though because it's updated up to this cycle, so I don't know what that means 4 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:32 PM ET (US) been waiting for 30 minutes for a host to set it up, but Ill be having supersoft as my mason for the day. 3 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 10:03 PM ET (US) good day sir pandaman 2 Pandain 11-17-2013 08:10 PM ET (US) hi 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-17-2013 07:59 PM ET (US) Pandain + BloodyC0bbler Day 2/Night 2 Helps point that Hopeless might be town, though not certain. 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Hopeless, my claim has already been discussed. There's nothing scummy about it and literally no way any of us would have gotten lynched. I think you need to look at other people. Look at my masonship with BC, it's pretty obvious it's a town-scum relationship. I'm not that good or that committed to masoning a scum with that kind of fake effort. Coagulation is the kind of guy who if we don't lynch, then after the game we'll slap our foreheads and be like why didn't we lynch him. I say keep it simple and lynch the most useless player here in a game where clearly lurkers are dominating. | ||
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I guess I just don't know where you stand Holy. For instance you aren't now campaigning for a specific person; haven't even voted for anyone. It's like you're just cruising. It's unnerving to me. | ||
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Going to say this: Mafia probably bussed thrawn, almost certaintly. Keep that in mind while thinking. | ||
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I still find it hard to believe that if Holy was the only one making sense and arguing to lynch lurkers, they shot the utterly useless and still slightly suspicious Vayne(who by the way was suspicious of Holy). I'm skeptical of Holy's pretty sketchy cases, going after Slam now. He was scum with slam in B2B, no? Where's the comparison. I see 6 pages in Slam's game, 19 in here. And a different playstyle. I don't like Holy's case. I don't like how he uses defending coag as a scum tell, and yet never pinpoints coag as a lynch. Unless it was basically impossible for him to get lynched. | ||
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