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On November 28 2013 08:38 Bereft wrote: obviously I am town. HF is not certain to get lynched. in order to lynch him we need 5 votes. cora is the last town and doesn't want to move his vote. I don't know what else you need explained to you.
Maybe, MAYBE, obvious to you, but not obvious to me.
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On November 28 2013 09:28 Mocsta wrote: Wow. Onegu You totally convinced Cora is scum. im makeing sure there is a hammer and no shennigans, I set a alarm for 30 munutes til deadlin if people read my case that I spent 5 hours on and want to vote him Im ready.
Cora is scum. I just showed it has to be me or him, and it is him as I am VT. But there has to be a lynch today otherwise we go to lylo with the same damn wagons.. I am makeing sure a lynch happens but really I am feeling bereft is fake claiming.
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On November 20 2013 15:55 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 15:53 sciberbia wrote:on Cora+ Show Spoiler [quotes] +On November 20 2013 12:17 sciberbia wrote:I think Cora is most likely to be scum so far. His entrance to the thread is what I would describe as very 'safe'. It's trolly, ingratiating, and echoes what Mocsta already said. agree or disagree. On November 20 2013 12:06 Mocsta wrote: I understand some people view early trolling as part of the game, however, I would think you do not fall into this category. In fact, I would argue the above is completely out-of-character for a town Aquanim.
On November 20 2013 12:24 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 12:19 Bereft wrote:On November 20 2013 12:16 Mocsta wrote: post 4 K thrawn is town
De ja ducking vu explain. you're going to burn through your posts really quickly if you write 1 to 2 liners and expect the rest of us to all be on your wavelength. post 5Scum like to interrupt town circles, so dial down the tone will ya. I think if there are 3 scum. So far it'saquanim, sciberbia and you. On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote: On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
1) The first thing I want to emphasize is a point brought up by Bereft. Cora singled me out for stating preliminary reads on the first page, but glossed over Mocsta doing the same thing. This inconsistency is suspicious because it suggests that his problem wasn't with the stating of reads (in which case he should have been equally bothered by Mocsta), but rather with me specifically stating suspicion on him.
2) Next, I find suspicious Cora's early criticisms of my play. At first, the criticisms had a tone of "sciberbia's play is bad" (but not scummy). + Show Spoiler [neutral criticisms] +On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote: On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
On November 20 2013 12:44 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 12:43 sciberbia wrote:On November 20 2013 12:28 thrawn2112 wrote: Who wants a free town read? I've only got one, get it while supplies last! All you need to do is be the first to respond to this post!
mocsta is ineligible because him and I are already confirmed town to each other @thrawn You are masons? Thx for piggybacking on my post. I really appreciate it. On November 20 2013 12:57 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 12:54 Aquanim wrote: ... On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
The way I see it, sciberbia analysing the first page at least gives us something to talk about. Why don't you think what he's doing is productive? I think it is sciberia either not understanding that the first page of a game is usually just joking around or he is trying to rock the boat ridiculously early in the game. Seeing as sciberia is not new to this game, I think it's the latter. I find criticism of "bad play" in the first couple pages suspicious in general. Scum find it tempting to discredit townies and promote a negative town atmosphere. Townies on the other hand are more likely to be in a joyous mood after receiving their role PM, rather than antagonistic.
3) But specific to Cora, I'm troubled by the fact that when questioned about these posts by Bereft, Aquanim, and Thrawn, he retroactively analyzes my previous posts as scummy, whereas before his comments were noncommittal criticisms. If he really found my first few posts so scummy, the noncommittal criticisms are very unnatural. Originally he said this: + Show Spoiler [very alignment neutral] +On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote: On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
But then later this when questioned by thrawn: + Show Spoiler [scummy] +On November 20 2013 13:43 cDgCorazon wrote: @Thrawn In my opinion, if he was trying to create a good town atmosphere in the start, he did a very poor job of doing so. That's why I was thinking (and still am) that sciberia is scum. So according to Cora, he was thinking that I was scum simultaneously as he was writing that you cannot find scum on the first page? That's a pretty blatant contradiction and it seems more likely one that scum would make than town.
I'd appreciate feedback on this case. I think it's the strongest one in the thread right now so ##Vote: cDgCorazon BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'm going to bed.
Oh and I forgot to add this to the unhelpful portion.
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On November 28 2013 09:48 Mocsta wrote: I was being sarcastic.
Your case looked like holyflare wrote it.
Ill take that as a compliment?
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But basicly I am fairly certain no one will read it. And I wasted my night.
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On November 28 2013 10:12 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 10:10 sciberbia wrote: HF if you flip town And we lose to cora/bereft scumteam I will apologize profusely and admit I suck at this game. But i really doubt it. Shameless +1 With caveat If Cora is scum, I'm never playing with him again.
Im that feeling if he is town, but was waiting for postgame.
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On November 28 2013 11:02 Holyflare wrote: Funny how bereft is "afk till 20 mins before deadline" though,
##Unvote ##Vote Bereft
Im still thinking if he is newb enough to do the claim as town. I am leaning against it. But doubt we will get enoughto switch onto him but lets give it a go and see what happens, if no one else switches I will hammer you though as if we go another day it will be lylo with the same wagons in me and you with no one else willing to change and that gets us no where.
##UNVOTE ##VOTE BEREFT
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Yeah my handicapped son is up and I canno guarentee I will be available again before deadline.
##UNVOTE ##VOTE HOLYFLARE
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Yeah nice one cora.
But you are wrong chezniu will be shot.
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Can people read my cora case please?
Cora plays very anti town, doesnt have a town PoV, contridicts himself multiple times. His day one lynch target 24hours in is aqua, his case is 2 points, first aqua goes from null to scum on cora with no reason, 2 aquas case and points on rean is wrong. Aqua responds, cora says his reason on point 1 is smoke and mirrors, and accepts aquas points on rean are legit. So cora has 2 points against aqua and one is completely shattered and cora accepts it is. So cora unvotes amd moves on. WRONG!!! Cora says nothing has changed and aqua should still be lynched. Rayn and mocsta shit start, aqua still who he wants to lynch. But does he push his lynch, other than saying he still wants to lynch him, he doesnt mention him. Doesnt say hey guys really aqua is scum check out my case, or bring up new points at all. His first case is BS, its scum attemptimg to look active.
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On November 28 2013 13:19 Chezinu wrote: I just read Chezinu's filter. It is hilarious! I especially love the pun about flare being dim. Oh, that was great!
No puns about onegu. .
Anyway Im done until daypost unless anyone has questions for me Ill check once or twice.
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On November 28 2013 15:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 14:22 Onegu wrote:Can people read my cora case please?+ Show Spoiler [Boring!!!!!] +Cora plays very anti town, doesnt have a town PoV, contridicts himself multiple times. His day one lynch target 24hours in is aqua, his case is 2 points, first aqua goes from null to scum on cora with no reason, 2 aquas case and points on rean is wrong. Aqua responds, cora says his reason on point 1 is smoke and mirrors, and accepts aquas points on rean are legit. So cora has 2 points against aqua and one is completely shattered and cora accepts it is. So cora unvotes amd moves on. WRONG!!! Cora says nothing has changed and aqua should still be lynched. Rayn and mocsta shit start, aqua still who he wants to lynch. But does he push his lynch, other than saying he still wants to lynch him, he doesnt mention him. Doesnt say hey guys really aqua is scum check out my case, or bring up new points at all. His first case is BS, its scum attemptimg to look active. - In my head I was thinking: I'm bored, how about I give Onegu some courtesy and give it a full read over. - Then I realised "WOW!" Onegu has an 11page filter, maybe... *just* MAYBE he could be town. BAH-BAM !!!!! - Then I realised something else. You see Onegu: Its impossible for Holyflare and Corazon to be on a scum team. (1) Thread sentiment wanted an Onegu lynch (2) Corazon wanted a Onegu lynch (3) Its MYLO (4) Corazon fake-claimed to get you lynched (5) Holyflare Opposed the lynch as hard as he could.. even getting Corazon to admit the fake-claim Whats the problem?The problem is that scum want to win. As quickly as possible.Give that it is MYLO, if Corazon was scum -- there was no need for Holyflare to battle him, put pressure on him.. heck even get Corazon to admit fake-claiming. Further, if Corazon was *WRONG* about Onegu... Holy woulda just sat by idly and let scum mislynch to finish the game. Onegu, we already knew you were scum before all this. Now its proven and irrefutableYou *will* be lynched tomorrow. The only decision this town has to make is between Chezinu and Alakaslam. Considering Chezinu flipflopped his vote, and Slam stayed true. Nothing has changed. Holyflare, Onegu, ChezinuIts just a matter of waiting out the required cycles. *TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK*
Nope I nailed the scum team when I said mocsta, corazon, rean, but if HF there at lylo lynch him over rean/slam.
Yes scum want to win quick bit moreso scum want to win safe. So heres what happened, cora claims red check on me. Scum knows I am makeing a case on cora, have made a case on mocsta, and said if HF is there at lylo to lynch him. So they both faked claimed and know when I flip town and something happens to thier NK, which the odds go up and up with every VT flip of them missing thier shot. With pressure already on HF and people wanting his head over my own, scum decide to make the we are going to attack each other and separate. This gives both HF and cora ways to back out of their claims, which I pointed out before cora said he fakeclaimed. They basicly decided to connect HF to me and seperate HF and cora connections. So when I flip green it is harder to connect them all because of wifom.
But anyway, I cannot read Slam or Chez ever in anygame with them, bereft is confirmed town.
So I will filterdive scibera and make my case why he is town so you fools dont decide to lynch him over cora or mocsta.
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Yeah why hasnt anyone called me scum for saying who would get shot?
Get on it people cora is scum.
##VOTE cDgCorazon
@slam: Bereft is confirmed town look elsewhere.
Unless slam, bereft, or scib have questions for me I most likely wont post here again only checking in every so often. And maybe linking cora/mocsta with quotes from their filters but not sure how lazy I will be or not.
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Let me lay down the law here
@ slam BEREFT IS CONFIRMED TOWN. HF doesnt get lynched . Period, if you want to wait until after I flip town to confirm him ok, but to think he might be scum is dumb
@bereft YOU ARE CONFIRMED TOWN a scum slam most likely wouldnt attack you for being scum. With the other telling him dude attacking the confirmed townie is dumb and going to get you lynched
So that leaves sciberia, and he has played a uber town game, he is final scum with cora he deserves to win.
Cora is 100% scum, my points why me and cora cant both be town is stronger than mocstas why HF and cora cant both be scum arguement.
Mocsta might not be, but is like greater than 80% chance he is final scum, with Slam 15%, sciberia 5%
If we dont get endgame post you guys lynch Cora, dont talk about it, go read my case which none of you except maybe sciberia has done, and vote him.
IF I AM FINAL SCUM THERE IS STILL ONE MORE AND THE GAME ISNT OVER, IF I AM TOWN THE GAME IS LIKELY OVER.
With tnis in mind look who is looking for last scum and look at who is lazy. That would be cora and mocsta, less mocsta as he has done a little bit, but its mostly been onegu is scum here is why, not this person is scum with onegu.
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You are Gaetano Badalamenti, a Mobster (Vanilla Townie). You are one of the strongest candidates to take the position of Padrino in this fair city of liquidia. As the head of Liquidia's most famous drug running organization you are wealthy, and you think, above the law. Of course when its just twelve men in the city of vice, money doesn't weigh as much as you might think. Find the dirty pigs in your midst and see if you can't get elected to a position of even greater power.
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Why doesnt cora do it now? Because he expects me to die and the game to end. I want promises that read and I quote
"If onegu flips town and the game does not end I promise to vote cDgCorazon as soon as I can. I will read onegu's case on cDgCorazon, and why Onegu and cDgCorazon cannot both be town. I will then not take my vote off of cDgCorazon no matter what wifom may come up."
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Why doesnt cora do it now? Because he expects me to die and the game to end. I want promises that read and I quote
"If onegu flips town and the game does not end I promise to vote cDgCorazon as soon as I can. I will read onegu's case on cDgCorazon, and why Onegu and cDgCorazon cannot both be town. I will then not take my vote off of cDgCorazon no matter what wifom may come up."
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Stupid tablet and bad internet.
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What I meant to post was
Wifom, wifom, wifom, blah, blah, blah
Mocsta you are writeing alot of words but not saying anything understandable. You are going in circles with you saying little and your vote on me in the end. You go from cora is scum, to no its slam, but if slam is scum then sciberia looks bad, to I am confirmed town, cora is town, sciberia scum, vote onegu, sciberia scum lets vote him, blah blah blah.
@anyone if you understand what mocsta is saying and where he is trying to go let me know in laymans terms.
And I want promises. Also not just vet maybe we have a medic who can pull an amazing save.
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