On February 11 2014 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
Wave or VE what?
Wave or VE what?
For the last mafia. Assuming Koshi is town.
geript, Oats, Vayne for the first three.
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On February 11 2014 23:50 marvellosity wrote: Wave or VE what? For the last mafia. Assuming Koshi is town. geript, Oats, Vayne for the first three. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:01 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On February 11 2014 23:56 marvellosity wrote: I guess I should really get around to looking at geript before deadline. we have plenty of time right? or is this phase shorter? This phase ends tonight. | ||
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raynpelikoneet Palmar/marvellosity yamato77 Risen Holyflare Grackaroni Koshi WaveofShadow/VisceraEyes Oatsmaster geript VayneAuthority | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:06 marvellosity wrote: mine was @Palmar yeah i got that. | ||
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On February 11 2014 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn you've been calling me scum this whole cycle. Forgive me if I take EVERYTHING you say with a grain of salt. On February 11 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me. On February 11 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote: I am talking to you - if you're on the cusp of rage that's your thing, not mine. I never said I wouldn't talk to or listen to you. I said I'd take everything you say with a grain of salt - meaning that because I'm a scumread of yours, you're obviously not going to be talking to me about your real scumreads and you're only trying to get me to "slip" or whatever and everything you say has a sole purpose of getting me lynched whenever the opportunity arises. So rage on friend. It makes literally zero difference to me. If you're town then perhaps your rage will make you see things differently. This is a set of posts that bother me the most about VE. Especially the bolded parts. He kinda says i am mafia because why else would you write the bolds? But right after the nominations he says i am an universal townread (which was not even true). These two do not go together very well for me. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:18 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 11 2014 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn you've been calling me scum this whole cycle. Forgive me if I take EVERYTHING you say with a grain of salt. On February 11 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me. On February 11 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote: I am talking to you - if you're on the cusp of rage that's your thing, not mine. I never said I wouldn't talk to or listen to you. I said I'd take everything you say with a grain of salt - meaning that because I'm a scumread of yours, you're obviously not going to be talking to me about your real scumreads and you're only trying to get me to "slip" or whatever and everything you say has a sole purpose of getting me lynched whenever the opportunity arises. So rage on friend. It makes literally zero difference to me. If you're town then perhaps your rage will make you see things differently. This is a set of posts that bother me the most about VE. Especially the bolded parts. He kinda says i am mafia because why else would you write the bolds? But right after the nominations he says i am an universal townread (which was not even true). These two do not go together very well for me. No, what he's saying is that you are town and you think he's mafia (and you're possibly tunnelled), so you're just trying to make him slipup and reveal things rather than talk genuinely about his scumreads. However, that doesn't actually make the posts look any better, because if he's town and he thinks you're town, he should be looking to convince you that your scumread on him is incorrect. Well apparently he thinks i am town. Has VE just become 100x worse player he used to be? Like what's that shit then? | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:24 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 12 2014 00:18 marvellosity wrote: On February 12 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 11 2014 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn you've been calling me scum this whole cycle. Forgive me if I take EVERYTHING you say with a grain of salt. On February 11 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me. On February 11 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote: I am talking to you - if you're on the cusp of rage that's your thing, not mine. I never said I wouldn't talk to or listen to you. I said I'd take everything you say with a grain of salt - meaning that because I'm a scumread of yours, you're obviously not going to be talking to me about your real scumreads and you're only trying to get me to "slip" or whatever and everything you say has a sole purpose of getting me lynched whenever the opportunity arises. So rage on friend. It makes literally zero difference to me. If you're town then perhaps your rage will make you see things differently. This is a set of posts that bother me the most about VE. Especially the bolded parts. He kinda says i am mafia because why else would you write the bolds? But right after the nominations he says i am an universal townread (which was not even true). These two do not go together very well for me. No, what he's saying is that you are town and you think he's mafia (and you're possibly tunnelled), so you're just trying to make him slipup and reveal things rather than talk genuinely about his scumreads. However, that doesn't actually make the posts look any better, because if he's town and he thinks you're town, he should be looking to convince you that your scumread on him is incorrect. Well apparently he thinks i am town. Has VE just become 100x worse player he used to be? Like what's that shit then? I'm not sure, it's kinda insidious. I don't know if you remember in LXIV, he kept telling people to go away who thought he might be scum. For example I read coag as clear town in that game because he'd engaged in VE, VE had told him to shit off, and coag thought he'd caught VE (they were both town for anyone wondering). I think VE did the same to you as well maybe? This game, those posts... they aren't that blatant compared to LXIV. You've not come across to me as particularly tunnelled on VE, so his posts repeatedly saying he won't engage with you because you're just going to be unfair come across quite badly indeed. To be fair i talked with Coag about his scumread on VE in LXIV and it was because of "this one 100% scumtell from OMGUS.net where VE bolds random words and that's why VE is scum". That was his reasoning, or at least what he gave me, not that VE told him to "fuck off" because VE always tells people to fuck off, especially as town. But yeah, the explanations in those posts do not make any sense to me unless he thinks i am mafia, which can't be true because he called me town a bit after that. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote: One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more. Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here. The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched? | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:29 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote: One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more. Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here. The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched? Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does". I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play. Correct me if i am wrong but VE's play has changed a lot since his last scumgame? | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:32 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 12 2014 00:29 marvellosity wrote: On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote: One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more. Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here. The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched? Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does". I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play. Correct me if i am wrong but VE's play has changed a lot since his last scumgame? yeah, but imo that doesn't really change the central point. Yeah i guess that makes sense. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:04 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote: Risen didn't have a Palmar-point beyond "paranoia for no reason" No he's right. If Palmar is scum then he can make it to the end without having to do much else of anything this game; we are pretty much accepting he is town at that point. So do you think he is mafia then? | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:05 Koshi wrote: Hey, I am telling you guys that if there is a mafia between these it is most likely rayn. Like, when rayn flips mafia out of the freaking blue there isn't that much to go on that was pushed by rayn himself into this thread. Which is really lacking in his play this game. Like where are the 2 certain scumreads rayn had right before nomination and where are they after thread suddenly went. Let's lynch rayn guys, it's not Palmar. It was Oats and geript. Now yo ucan go do something productive. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:06 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2014 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 12 2014 01:04 Grackaroni wrote: On February 12 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote: Risen didn't have a Palmar-point beyond "paranoia for no reason" No he's right. If Palmar is scum then he can make it to the end without having to do much else of anything this game; we are pretty much accepting he is town at that point. So do you think he is mafia then? probably not. So what's this all about then? | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:07 Palmar wrote: rayn so I don't have to go through your filter and to shut koshi up. What were the scumreads you intendend to announce (even if they're outdated by now). Oats and geript. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I think Oats/geript/Vayne/yamato is a fine scumteam. Why not Wave? | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:10 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2014 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: On February 12 2014 01:05 Koshi wrote: Hey, I am telling you guys that if there is a mafia between these it is most likely rayn. Like, when rayn flips mafia out of the freaking blue there isn't that much to go on that was pushed by rayn himself into this thread. Which is really lacking in his play this game. Like where are the 2 certain scumreads rayn had right before nomination and where are they after thread suddenly went. Let's lynch rayn guys, it's not Palmar. It was Oats and geript. Now yo ucan go do something productive. Then why didn't you add something nice to what marv said about Oats but instead you just went +1 on marv his thing. I don't remember what we said about geript. rayn, bro, I know it is unlikely you are scum. But I got this nagging feeling that out of the marv/Palmar/you the chance that it is you is so much higher than the other 2. So much. Also this game is really good so I don't have to tunnel you so much in other games and 1 of you need to die anyway. I was totes nice to you in the previous games PYP, LXIV and SMB. Because there is nothing Oats has done all game long. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:13 marvellosity wrote: No-one is flipping Koshi this game unless it's in a nomination lynch. Yes i agree with this, i was just mad at him. | ||
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