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Also USA for pride but if I rand brazil I won't be sad. | ||
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On June 24 2014 05:28 kitaman27 wrote: I'm guessing the England role will be assigned to an observer I literally would never vote for you. | ||
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On June 27 2014 06:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: | ||
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Also I'm going to call town the Allied Nations and Axis powers mafia. Also England probably should get vigi shot on principal despite being an Ally. | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:13 kushm4sta wrote: i still dont understand Its not meant to make sense. | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:16 kushm4sta wrote: tehpoofter did i ASK YOU? also why are you talking just to talk huh?? for those two things you get my vote The flavor in this game is hella fun! Did you get a shitty country like Spain? | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:21 Vivax wrote: Why so serious kush. Is talking just to talk at this stage something that should be considered scummy? Calling it he got some bad country! | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:35 IAmRobik wrote: 1) Palmar town 2) Sinani prolly maf 3) Everyone claim your country immediately! This may seem insignificant now, but will prove very vital later in the game (i'll explain this part when it arises). I'm Greece I got the Host Nation aka BRAZIL!!!! | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:40 Vivax wrote: why why why not explain it now Robik first 2 are good questions last one is dumb. Why would claiming your country name be bad? (as long as its not England?) | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:49 sinani206 wrote: I am Japan and not mafia Yakusa then? | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:54 kushm4sta wrote: i dont look at my role pm d1 tho Kush going with Antartica! | ||
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Game wise I think claiming your country does nothing for you. I imagine its all flavor. Mafia can probably make any country sound good with a bit of flavor. The only thing good that could happen is the possibility a mafia claims the same country as someone else so really no reason not to claim or to claim tbh I doubt its going to be of any significant. | ||
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On June 27 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote: Cause those were my first impressions and my first impressions are good. Or you know too much, make sure if you're mafia to bus please. | ||
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On June 27 2014 08:23 kushm4sta wrote: so vote for him instead of me? Hes mad you're not saying your country. | ||
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On June 27 2014 06:43 Palmar wrote: Oh well, it's unlikely you guys are both mafia, and that means at least one townie is refusing to try to play the game. Thus I no longer care and I'm not going to do anything. See you. I love reading palmer did he quit as town or as mafia... the age old adage. | ||
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Him not playing is alignment neutral. | ||
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On June 27 2014 11:40 IAmRobik wrote: If I'm town, palmar is town If I'm mafia, palmar is town. You happy? No lol you've been wrong before the fact you think you have a lock read on someone what 2 pages into the game is laughable. I never even said you were wrong. I just hate when Palmer quits (well accept when he did it in Cell Mafia 2 cause it made him look like a scum lord ) | ||
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I'm off to reading anyone around that wants to do some talking? | ||
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On June 27 2014 16:43 Koshi wrote: Hi Vivax. I am totes town. Totes town. 100%. I did my part. Did you do your part? Its so dumb but had you done a post like this in Order I probably would have town read you a lot faster. Bleh. + Show Spoiler + Please bookmark this post for ez pocketing later Koshi | ||
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On June 27 2014 18:20 Palmar wrote: I don't care what you think it is. You don't want to play the game until you're forced to = you're mafia, or at best a destructive town => you die. ironic. | ||
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On June 28 2014 07:46 Koshi wrote: Robik thinks you are scum. He is pretty sure. I am pretty sure Robik is town. I also think Robik is a wizard. You are on a shortlist with 5 others to get lynched. As in. We are left with 6 names for 3 mafia. Who are the other 5? and tbh thats a pretty long list its like half the people in the game. And more importantly who decided the list? Being called scum isn't a bad thing especially by Robik I'll have to see where/robik says so. If I'm mafia robik is probably on my team cause hes generally pretty bad at finding mafia unless hes on the same team as them. Why is robik town? I'm going to up my standards for his scum game after Order before then its been fairly shit. | ||
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On June 28 2014 07:50 IAmRobik wrote: This question applies to those people who said that my reads were bad and told me that I need to explain my initial reads on plammar and sinani: Now that I've flipped mafia in Order, please direct me to a non-catastrophe (that game was a catastrophe) game where my reads were bad Do you think I'm mafia? | ||
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On June 28 2014 07:54 Koshi wrote: dnu why you are typing all these words without reading the thread tbh. Doing both bbygirl. This Palmer Vivax fight is interesting. | ||
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On June 27 2014 21:37 Vivax wrote: Kush why not lynch Palmar today. If you read properly you will see his case is crap and he has not done anything outside of that. Just locked me on and tried to construct as many scummy motives as he could invent. Koshi acting weird as hell too. I think Vivax is scummy for this. Koshi I felt is playing pretty townie in his beginning and trying to get Palmer and Vivax to chime in on other people instead of tunneling each other in the thread. Vivax in the only game I've seen him scum brought up a case on me day 1 and didn't really let off it I tried to reason with him and determine his alignment but he was persistant and didn't want to move from it. The fact that Koshi tried to move him elsewhere and he seemed annoyed by it in this post: On June 27 2014 20:53 Koshi wrote: VIVAX PAY ATTENTION TO ME On June 27 2014 21:10 Vivax wrote: What about poofter is there you wanna talk about. He answered then immediately goes back on the push to Palmer which is weird. | ||
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On June 28 2014 08:18 kushm4sta wrote: Interesting how? I thought it was boring as fuck. Its the first real content of the game. How is that boring? I disagree that you should be policy lynched for not looking at your role PM. But how do you find useful content boring? Would you rather it was just trolling? | ||
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On June 28 2014 08:55 kushm4sta wrote: I don't like that case. Your meta is from one game so it's not reliable. Plus I would not describe vivaxs play as single minded tunneling. In the quote he's suspicious of both koshi and Palmer. So how is that a tunnel.. Did you read his whole filter? He has changed his mind, which contradicts the reason you think he's scummy. Why do you think that its a case? I don't vote for him. One game meta is better than none game meta and I agree its not reliable but I'm not going to forget the only scum game I've played with him. The tunnel is that he doesn't relent after Koshi tries to make him look at other people like he has it set that Palmer is scum despite what I think is good reasoning that he isn't. I didn't read his whole filter I never read filters before I read the thread thats a waste because of how out of context it is. So did you get nothing out of the talks between Palmer and Vivax? You have reads on them from it cause it seems like you think Vivax is town or do you just disagree with my logic train? | ||
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On June 27 2014 23:48 kushm4sta wrote: @haru if you felt so strongly about koshi being scum then why did it take me asking about your scum reads to say anything about it? Read this on lunch I like this point from kush I'm going to be weirded out if I actually keep town reading you kush I think I've pretty much always thought you were scummy day 1. | ||
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On June 28 2014 00:35 Rainbows wrote: All the pressure on Koshi, makes me not like Koshi lynch. Responded well to pressure. Don't like how Haru comes in and votes Koshi. First two quotes in his vote post mean nothing, the third is pretty meh. Seems like he's voting thread sentiment imo. Whenever I make a post and vote somebody and someone else casually drops a vote like that it makes me very uneasy. I like rainbows he seems pretty townie. | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:03 IAmRobik wrote: For the record (and to piss off Banks -- who is prolly mafia and gonna call me out on this): Vivax and Palmar are prolly just 2 town fighting Confirmed mafia. ##Vote IAmRobik | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:17 IAmRobik wrote: My posts are being ignored wahhhhh Please stop doing town tells after I vote for you. | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:23 HaruRH wrote: currently, everyone is null because nobody is posting anything alignment indicative imo. What do you think of the Vivax Palmer interaction + Koshi trying to stop it? None of that gives any hints towards alignment for you??? Robik is a confirmed donkey and he thinks they're both town. I think that vivax is mafia and Palmer is annoying and town. I think that Vivax reads both Palmer and Koshi scummy.... lots of stuff going on there from lots of perspectives and you have nothing? wolfy. | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:26 IAmRobik wrote: I'm not asking you or anyone else to read my. I know my alignment (mafia). I'm trying to figure out the alignment of everyone else in this game (or at least try to figure out if they're a PR or just VT). So I want people to respond to my reads posts and tell me whether they agree or disagree with them and why. Having them ignored just pisses me off hahaha Robik what did I say about town tells you dick. | ||
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On June 28 2014 02:14 sinani206 wrote: you're scum why should i care what you think of me I don't like this. Maybe I've just played too much with Robik but I feel like this is pretty obvious he wouldn't intentionally slip and is more likely to claim mafia as town. Robik I wanted to kill you but too much towniness and this dude still wants to kill you. ##unvote ##Vote Sinani206 | ||
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On June 28 2014 02:43 IAmRobik wrote: ##vote: sinani Late to the bandwagon sir. Please don't remove me from your lynch list just cause I post. I would really hate if I'm that easy to read as scum and don't want to level my town game down to that. | ||
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On June 28 2014 03:05 IAmRobik wrote: TehPoofter = banks = Town's Glorious hero and its Officer Banks to you robik. Fixed your quote. | ||
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On June 28 2014 10:50 kushm4sta wrote: consolidate your posts poofter I am working and at my job I might have to randomly stop for 15-30 minutes to check in quests and shit so I basically read as I post when catching up so I don't forget anything I wanted to say and the robik situation gets funnier so I'm going to keep commenting. | ||
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On June 28 2014 06:27 sinani206 wrote: now that fucking starwars shit is over, robik is playing the exact same way day one. ##Vote: IAmRobik Disagree his day one there was more buddying as opposed to this game where he seems to not want any friends. | ||
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On June 28 2014 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: haru and cav look like good lynches. cav talking in the order mafia postgaame but this this thread. that is a bad sign. You don't like the sinani lynch? | ||
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On June 28 2014 11:22 Cavalinho wrote: I don't get your Robik read. Do you or don't you townread Robik? You're waffling on him in almost every post that I see and I don't understand where you're coming from. You're saying he's confirmed mafia off of stuff that isn't relevant, and then you turn around and townread him for "slipping?" I want you to explain your read in detail because the way you came to that conclusion doesn't really make sense. My initial vote on him was a troll from video mafia. He basically fooled the shit out of me last game as mafia so I had him on the mafia side of neutral to start the game but he kept doing townie things. Like crying no one is listening to his reads and straight up ignoring Koshi. So I went from troll voting him to reading him as town but still a bit reserved. Then he did the "slip" which is really townie I can't remember a scum game he has done that in video mafia (where he does it often) | ||
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Why not? | ||
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On June 28 2014 11:34 Rainbows wrote: but my opinion on vivax / palmar is that i didnt like palmar cus he stroked his ego and implied he was town somewhere and i thought it was kinda scummy. cant quote cus on phone but it went something like "you [vivax] werent promoting discussion. anyone can do that. Look at what I'm doing!" seemed kinda like he was fawning at how townie he was being and seemed scummy. Vivax looked OK to me his responses seemed fine. Why was vivax okay? I disagree with this post. | ||
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On June 28 2014 11:50 Rainbows wrote: i dont like how you insult Robik banks, kinda shitty I don't tell Robik anything he doesn't already know tbh. | ||
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On June 28 2014 11:52 Rainbows wrote: is robik an alias on video mafia? i used to watch that. remember banks and dont remember a robik If you watched all stars he doesn't get to play in that one cause hes a donkey but he plays under Robert or Robik he's always wearing ugly as shit Philadelphia Eagles stuff. And i'm Banks (The attractive G.O.A.T.) | ||
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On June 28 2014 11:56 Rainbows wrote: i thought his counter pressure was townie. I havent read his filter since before work but thats a generalization. remember palmar leaning less town than vivax for his own aggro. I think if sinani hadn't basically outed I'd be voting vivax for the way he wanted to keep pushing palmer even after Koshi tried to get him to move past it. | ||
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On June 28 2014 12:17 Rainbows wrote: Whats wrong with what vivax did? Seemed invested in his read. being adamant isnt scum imho. If vivax is scum he probably isnt scum for counter pressure onto palmar. i feel like scum would just defend and try to change the subject. It reminds me of a Titanic game I played with him. How are you reading sinani/robik/cav/kush? | ||
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On June 30 2014 06:23 HaruRH wrote: Hahahhaha the scum aarekilling the losing team first hahaha Cav is bullshit lynch him today ##Vote: Cavalinho What country did Cav claim? | ||
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I hope he lives a long long time then. I'm watching Costa Rica vs Robik right now once its over I'm going to finish catching up here 2 night kills is bad with this many means we need to hit mafia soon or were going to be in for a short game. | ||
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On June 30 2014 06:46 IAmRobik wrote: I shot palmar On June 30 2014 07:34 kushm4sta wrote: robik help me understand why the ffuck you \are lying. i shot palmar. So presumeably you're both not lying. So if we have a vigi thats much better than mafia having 2KP. Can one or both of you claim why you shot palmer? + Show Spoiler + Greece just lost btw so Robik needs to pick a new country or gtfo. | ||
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On June 30 2014 07:08 Cavalinho wrote: Roleblocked. Duh. Thanks guys. Anyone want to cc this??? | ||
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On June 30 2014 08:06 IAmRobik wrote: oh, i guess we have 2 vigis...i like to shoot my top town. The only worry here is that robik as vigi would shoot one he was calling mega town as a "fake out" lol. Robik who is your next vigi shot? and likely medic save. | ||
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Just played a game where HF as mafia claimed a RB day 1 as mafia after they RBd someone else so like sorry for not instantly believing you. (Though to be fair I feel like HF is more likely to do this than you as mafia) | ||
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On June 30 2014 08:15 Cavalinho wrote: Poofter I want all of your thoughts on the game so far. You were out of the game for almost the entirety of the lynch period/night sequence and I have no idea how to read you. I think Robik is more town than both the blue claims we have. Your reaction was okay but I'm not going to take shit like that at face value. I'm not caught up thats just what I think of since day break. | ||
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On June 30 2014 08:20 IAmRobik wrote: Cop with a red check should come out. You pretty much 2 for 1 yourself which is great for town Wait do you really not believe Cav? | ||
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On June 30 2014 08:29 Cavalinho wrote: Look, the people doubting me here need to fucking stop. I just had my role outed and was nearly lynched for the third time in a row. I just lost all of my checks and I'm a likely mislynch at some point because I had a shitty day 1. I can take responsibility for playing as badly as I did, but I've played my hand and the fact that people can doubt me at this point is ridiculous. I am the cop, and I'm uncc'd. The reason for that is, shockingly, because I am actually the cop. Also, since I'm making a giant post, I might as well map out what we're doing today: We're not lynching anyone on sinani. We find the scum hiding on my bandwagon from yesterday. We lynch them. My wagon yesterday was so obviously scum-driven that it pains me to listen to people make me out as mafia. Everytime I disappeared, people just went nuts and I couldn't deal with the fallout. I'd like someone to sit down and give me one, one good reason as to why we shouldn't believe me. I'm going to have a bunch of questions ready for people to answer as soon as I can, but I'm not leaving until we squash this shit right here and now. Why do you think no scum were on the lynch of the town? Wouldn't scum be more likely to believe your claim and push for someone else so they look super smart when/if you flip cop? | ||
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On June 30 2014 08:30 Cavalinho wrote: Why are you not playing catch up with the thread when I specifically asked you to? Who said I wasnt? and on that note I'm stopping my read through and going to lunch. | ||
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On June 29 2014 03:41 ObviousOne wrote: I just need to say something. As with most of the times I've played, My mood is the most crazy thing about me. There's also always the challenge of being scrutinized by people who would rather just fling accusations instead of interrogate, which just pisses me off rightly. However, this game, it's a bit of both. Everyone who is calling me scum is doing it without an interrogation, which when I started this game I promised myself I was going to try to play that way. Doesn't look like that's going to work out this game, even with the small number of players, because 40 posts a day of content like that is just not possible for me without seriously cutting into my terraria time. Other than interrogation, my preferred method is just to be left alone to make observations and put them in the thread. Can't do that if you're just going to call me mafia without that conversation, so I just get pissed again. There's one thing you can do right now and it's this: Offer me questions about other people or stop calling me mafia. Really, that's it. Capiche? This is where I'm at in the thread but I hate this post. Its not long after OO votes on Cav who was voted on by Kush/Koshi... While kush/koshi are trying to push for votes on cav. OO is more concerned about explaining himself and not being seen as mafia than getting people to vote his scum read. Not a fan. Also Koshi calling him scummy at least 2-3 times I noticed... Back to the reading. | ||
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Haha nevermind my last post this is what I was looking for. I'm just going to shut up and read everything and give opinions I fucking hate being behind. | ||
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On June 30 2014 11:44 ObviousOne wrote: My eyes are up here stop looking at my boobs Maybe your eyes are shitty and lol I looked at your next post and its what I wanted thanks for preemptively being townie. | ||
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On June 30 2014 11:47 ObviousOne wrote: You're welcome. You're gonna be mad when you see my POE post. Sorry ahead of time. Only if I'm not in it I've basically played to my scum meta which I hate because I'd rather make my scum game look like my town instead of the other. I'd look at people who are calling me townie tbh that have played more than 1-2 scum games with me. | ||
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Townville: Tehpoofter Kush - Claiming vigi and actually seems to give a fuck this game, is reaching out to people in thread like myself to play up, never lynching. Rainbows- I liked your posts midway through yesterday and today as well as your huge post in the night. My big question is why did you stay on Cav at EoD? I still don't think you'd be anywhere near my lynch list today. Robik - Day 1 was super townie he was doing a bunch of stuff that looks scummy as fuck but from my experience with him is most likely to be town. I will say that him being scum in order surprised me so I moved him down today for a couple things in the fact that he is falling off a bit and he claimed the shot from kush before kush claimed it was his shot. Now I feel like if he thought there was only one mafia kill Palmer was less likely to be a mafia target than Koshi but still could have been a TMI slip OO - He gets into the town because reading his posts anytime he did something I found scummy he followed it up with towniness. I even have a post where I thoguht he was scum then his next post put me at ease. People who confuse me: Vivax - His thing with Palmer early day 1 felt really scummy and I didn't really care for his EoD but his conversation he had with mderg mid day as well as others trying it seemed to talk to whoever about a couple of people felt less tunneled than he was being on Palmer. Maybe he just backed off staying tunneled on Palmer because I called him out or maybe he is town idk Cop check this person imo. People that are really bad at playing cop or mafia: Cav - If you're cop stop claiming on day 1 please lord. This feels like your newbie game when you had to claim and still got lynched. I am okay leaving you alive for now because if you're cop mafia might kill you or just spam rb and if you keep claiming rb and someone else gets rb you're basically confirmed mafia so even if you're mafia mafia is out their RB ability so town can do as they please basically. People who need to have a date with a big fire: Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia. Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read. I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia. | ||
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On June 30 2014 14:45 ObviousOne wrote: okay poof is gone let's all talk shit anyone else think it's counter-productive to intentionally play as if you're scum? i think that's what you just told me, that or i'm super in need of nicotine or something stronger like jameson. for real though as an afterthought (the kind that occurs after finishing an episode of criminal minds) i would like to know how you personally would describe your scum-meta poofter in other news i rescind my imaginary but implied townboner read on vivax for not being here solving the game for me but not far enough to put an m next to his name I'm not doing it intentionally but my scum meta is to be afk a lot. As far as I know. So I hate when my town play looks like my scum play and I'd rather bring my scum play up to my town play I agree... What did you think of My scum reads? So Vivax went to neutral just for activity? | ||
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On July 01 2014 01:09 IAmRobik wrote: Yeah, I don't know. I don't agree with him. I don't know the exact timeline of events (i didn't realize day was coming to a close so soon), but people were turning on cav, and if cav is cop and he feels his lynch is a certainty, then obviously he should claim to save town the mislynch. I just feel like he did what I (and other people) often do in video mafia AS MAFIA, where they will soft a role before actually coming out with it. From his previous games, he never did anything of this sort, so the fact that he softed first makes me feel sketchier about the claim. As for how it relates to banks, I don't know. I have not, nor am I willing to yet, formulate an opinion of banks. The soft makes it sketchier for sure but my main point is that if hes mafia he never gives us info. If hes cop he gets to eat the RB every night or a bullet which could help if town has other roles. Also as mafia he wouldn't be able to RB anyone else because if he lives and their is a roleblock its instant lynch for him. I feel like his situation will work itself out one way or the other. Right now I'm on the Cav is actually the cop boat because a) He's claimed day 1 before as cop so its in his range b) No one is CCing after a night of checks which would be really good for town to have a basically confirmed mafia and another check. | ||
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On July 01 2014 01:48 HaruRH wrote: Cant participate when people are actively trying to find logical loopholes in anything I do Anything else I do now will just be used as material against me because 'sub optimal scum play LOL' Yea I failed my promise because I can't deal with kush/mderg /poofter by myself, so just do whatever you want. I'm not even voting you and I said you were my least likely mafia. I think mderg is most likely and will be voting for him once I catch up baring anything eye opening. | ||
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On July 01 2014 02:34 HaruRH wrote: Yea. I have exams right now, in both my mafia games, I am getting tunnelled heavily, everything I say and do is scum, whatever I write is dismissed as objectives (cav = major lynch so my points on cav is useless according to kush). My mental capacity is too low to try and convince people for another day that I am not scum and all their explanation were all bullshit. I no longer can 3v1. I need a rest. I'm getting flashbacks to Steveling in Glory mafia from this dude but I really hate people that just get all defeated and give up. If you're town Haru man up and find out who the scum are convince me Cav isn't the cop or something. | ||
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On July 01 2014 04:21 Vivax wrote: Imo scum is mderg Poofter and Cav and that's about it. Something similar to Koshi who got NKd, they probably didn't choose me for fear of medics. Definitely not that you killed Koshi to make your reads look good as scum eh? | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:42 HaruRH wrote: Lets use numbers to show you what I mean For example, to calculate my actual reads, I need to set my opinions first. I think cav/pooft are scum. So I would assign them a number of -2. I would be 0 because I dont townread/scumread myself. Haru: 0 Poofter: -2 Cav: -2 However, thread sentiment is that cav is a real cop (+5), poof is just an afk townie (+3) and I'm scum for 4 people (-4). So this comes out as: Haru: -4 Poofter: 1 Cav: 3 Final verdict: my read is that myself is scum bevause THREAD SENTIMENT LUL Your math sucks. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:59 mderg wrote: These reasons you want me to give don´t matter. I´ll try to explain this like for a 5 year old: I think you both are scummy for reasons I already gave, there´s no proper reason to townread you, there have been reasons mentioned in the thread that make robik slightly less scummy. The reasons to scumread you two has nothing to do with thread sentiment, the reasons why robik could be townread have been mentioned in the thread and they are not completely stupid or something, they´re just way to little to negate the scumread. Naturally, I think it´s better to lynch the scummier guy before the slightly less scummy guy. mderg or exo are my favorite lynches today. I think vivax is scum but so many people are town reading him I doubt we can get him lynched. Exo - Has been still doing what I called him out on I didn't finish my thoughts on him last night cause my video mafia game started and I just said fuck it. What I was saying about exo is: This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where Cav is mafia ExO hammers away from him to save his buddy. I am a bit worried about him just being n00bie town but I'm not getting the same vibe as I was last game where he was saying and doing weird shit but it felt townie. MDerg - says he didn't vote for sinani because of Exo but his vote didn't go off... this could have been a smart and opportunistic scum not voting on a scum buddy cav or a bad scum missing his shot to hammer the cop. I thought mdergs attempt to clear himself based on his vote thing was pretty lack luster and I still seem scum motive in his vote. Outside his vote though his thing about robik being scum as well as haru does feel like what I was calling out Haru for and he defends it in an odd way that makes me think hes more trying to prove he wasn't lying than he is right. Like as a townie if you say something contradictory you really don't care you just brush it off and say fuck it I'm town like think what you want. I don't get this feeling in mdergs post. ##Vote Mderg I think that Mderg and Exo are very unlikely to be scum together from the way things have played out. I think a scum team is something along the lines of Mderg or Exo/Vivax/Cav/Haru I feel like everyone else is townie. | ||
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I think that Robik and me are on the same page when it comes to Cav and how to handle him... at least I hope so by the way he is talking. So I feel like scum would have to kill both of us to play out the Cav situation in their favor. I'm sure others know what to do to but Look for guidance on that from Robik should I not be here. How many PRs does HF usually put into his games? (This one probably not best for discussions in thread but more of a food for thought) I'm going to look at other shit on here but I should be around for a couple hours. | ||
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On July 01 2014 10:35 IAmRobik wrote: So, per Koshi's request, we're not lynching ExO for a couple days. I'm coming around to the possibility that ExO is scum and fucked up when he voted me, but like, I'm not there quite yet. We are, however, lynching the liar mderg. I can lynch haru too, I don't particularly care for him, although he seems more genuine to me than most people prolly view him. We'll lynch Cava at some point, cause he's most likely scum, but obviously not for another 2 days or so. Someone should prolly figure out who his partners are. One of them is likely to be on the side of "HOLY SHIT THAT'S A FUCKING FAKE CLAIM AND A HALF" cause mafia like to be right. Damn hipster mafia | ||
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On July 01 2014 12:58 Cavalinho wrote: Poofter, do you actually have a decent read on me anywhere? I looked through your last three posts on me, and I see: *A read where I'm the cop or mafia, which doesn't say anything. *A read where you think I'm actually real. *Your very next post, which includes me in your list of mafia suspects, despite saying you thought I was real not even a post ago. Give me a read, and be straight with me. I want to know what you think. As of now I will be referring to you as Officer Cav. | ||
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On July 01 2014 14:13 ObviousOne wrote: Both Robik and poofter were supposed to find people who called them town scummy based on their D1 play, correct? Did you guys get anywhere with that or is this just an excuse to be different? I didn't play scummy on purpose I was just inactive so not really anyone from that tbh. RObik caught some OO do you like my reads? | ||
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On July 01 2014 14:37 IAmRobik wrote: I don't think people who called me town are scummy. I think that people who were like "ZOMG SO FUCKING OBV GUIZE" were scummier than people who voted for me...I guess I just don't know how to read people who are actually braindead enough to think that that was a slip from me. Jesus Christ that's mind blowingly dumb Who called you town for that? Koshi? | ||
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On July 01 2014 15:46 kushm4sta wrote: its the kushm4sta the assblaster the mind infiltrator the mafia regulator btw at lylo we are massclaiming and if shit looks fishy, cavo is getting lynched. he is so scummy . he's probably scum. I think he's probably the cop but yeah lylo time is Cav dead time. | ||
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On July 01 2014 16:36 ObviousOne wrote: i like the way they are colored i'll look at them again in a sec Watching Harry potter I'll check back after | ||
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On July 02 2014 12:29 ExO_ wrote: Also if we have a medic, please consider protecting me tonight. If I'm right I don't think Vivax and co will want me around tomorrow DR Banks checking in why do I need to save you over CAv? | ||
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On July 02 2014 13:22 ExO_ wrote: As for why you should protect me, I think if I'm right about mafia, they'll try to lynch me. Without my voice here it's likely just going to end weakly on a town lynch, with mafia cruising to victory so they can't lynch you if they kill you in the night. | ||
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On July 02 2014 13:39 ExO_ wrote: I'm in the process of responding to rainbows right now, but quickly: I used lynch interchangeably with kill. They'll try to kill me in the night, and try to lynch cav the next day. kk sounds good. I'm behind btw. IF you were going to summarize the last 5 pages for me how would you do it? | ||
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On July 03 2014 00:00 IAmRobik wrote: Banks is an idiot. Confirmed. I'm surprised that he'd actually use that as an excuse to be inactive though. That's so fucking weird We knew that awhile ago. I only even gave an excuse cause HF was going to modkill me. Normally I'd just fuck off and not explain. But I was pissed last night. Also Robik I need a town coach I'm like getting worse at town I think. | ||
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On July 03 2014 01:22 IAmRobik wrote: Heil Hitler is like...it gives me the chills when I read it. I've said things a million times worse than this. | ||
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On July 03 2014 02:19 IAmRobik wrote: Oh, and saving roles are not claiming VT either They're claiming their full role as well I agree with robik this is ALWAYS the correct play otherwise its too manipulative for mafia. | ||
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On July 03 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote: Can you modkill him so that we don't have to lynch him. I don't like lynching banks, even though I think he could be mafia here Don't worry babe you won't be lynching me this game. | ||
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On July 03 2014 05:31 IAmRobik wrote: oh, i can claim cop now. n1: kush = town n2: banks = town Holy shit Cav is mafia? totally thought that was too donkey to be mafia shit. lol | ||
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On July 03 2014 05:38 ExO_ wrote: if cav is mafia and nearly died day 1 ill be blown away, itll have been so incredibly sloppy If they killed outside of me kush robik its almost auto... doing some math1 | ||
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Exo so Vivax your top one eh? Who is with him you think? | ||
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On July 03 2014 06:08 ObviousOne wrote: ##vote HaruRH maybe today? Same questions I asked Exo who is he with and why is he the best of those to lynch today? | ||
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On July 03 2014 06:29 ObviousOne wrote: idk yet im asking myself right now, would kush try to clear robik in order to have someone to shoot? probably not im asking myself right now, would vivax say he was thinking about medic protection and then not be a major part of discussion for most of the day? sounds possible exo talking a lot of sense to me, i'm taking him out of my POE scum list so it's down to haru/vivax and then someone out of poof/cav in my book, either of the first two is fine with me if people prefer vivax today Kk I like this. | ||
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On July 03 2014 06:44 ExO_ wrote: not that my opinion of you will change at this point, but is this anything but an OMGUS? He thoguht he was keeping someone alive that didn't suspect him. Hes mad now. ##Vote Vivax | ||
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On July 03 2014 06:45 Vivax wrote: This bit by rainbows is actually very good and takes me back again from the gut town feeling I have getting from Exo's latest posts for the way he has been pushing me during the night. Mafia somewhere between Exo/TP/OO/Cav Since we didn't get a counterclaim yet I would be willing to start accepting Cav's counterclaim at this stage even though that means he's being heavily influenced by mafia cause he's apparently blind to the stuff me, rainbows and 2 other flipped townies see. He probably just gets a raging boner for anyone defending him if he's town, he also got a boner from me doing it when I was mafia in another game. If Cav is cop I agree me and Exo look scummy for it as we tend to believe him. If Cav is mafia though I think mafia would have never thought his claimed would have lasted this long and gotten on the bus early. I think that you fit in both worlds you have this "healthy suspicion" without actively pushing on him like voting and screaming he isn't the cop so if hes mafia you can just today town read him and get a ML or if Cav is cop you can still be mafia because you were suspicious of him and are pointing out today how your reads if he is cop lead you to believe X and Y are mafia thus getting another ML. I don't like your post here and it feels scummy. Can someone else tell me why Vivax is town? | ||
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On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote: Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. | ||
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On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote: That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals. If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake. | ||
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On July 03 2014 07:05 ExO_ wrote: vivax is going to try his best to instill doubt. Do not let him. If you are town vote HarURH (since we seem to be leaning harurh over vivax). I'm on the vivax train of justice. Hop on. | ||
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On July 03 2014 07:10 ExO_ wrote: Get on Harurh for now. If we can all agree to go vivax we can switch, but for now we should sit in the same guy. I Think Haru is town though. I can consolidate later but I find it odd you don't think vivax is gaining steam. | ||
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On July 03 2014 07:15 Vivax wrote: In fact there are so many possible variations of your reaction to what Robik did that I prefer to not touch that argument any further. I agree it makes me look too town for your push on me at any point to work. | ||
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On July 03 2014 07:20 Vivax wrote: If you think it makes you look town then your mafia you would also think that it would make you look town. use more wifom plz Sure thing I wouldn't kill robik cause he didn't want to lynch me and was literally never a role. Also you brought it up | ||
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On July 03 2014 07:26 Vivax wrote: Implying you are the only guy who decides the kills on your hypothetical mafia team? Why would I kill Robik then? Good point Just doing WiFOM stuff for you. | ||
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On July 03 2014 09:06 kushm4sta wrote: why exo... are you crazy?? we lynch scum or lose. we sooo need 2 days. This decision is not going to be rushed at all. Kush you really think vivax is town? Have you made a post explaining why? Like he is my most scummy. | ||
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On July 03 2014 09:32 kushm4sta wrote: exo did you claim yet? Yes I think the only ones that haven't claimed are Rainbows and OO. Everyone else has claimed VT and a country (Rainbows said Germany and OO Nederlands) | ||
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On July 03 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote: so poofter, your most scummy is the person with the most and deepest analysis? The way he has interacted with Cav and his claim makes me think that he has not had a logical townie train of thought. He has been trying to use the night kills to prove his townieness. He had that post where he said his and Koshi's reads align but he was likely to be medic saved so thats why he lived. Then he used robik's death to make himself look good and me and EXO look worse. I had a fun exchange with him about WIFOM earlier and he was quick to dismiss it despite him bringing it up on himself on multiple occasions. I think he is capable of his analysis and as either alignment. I think your list sucks btw kush. I know I'm not mafia and I think Vivax is mafia with someone like Exo/Haru/Rainbows I am not sure where to go after him ExO I can see the n00bish townie thing and the fact vivax is trying to discredit both of us then throws his vote on OO was weird maybe some light busing and he just "changes his mind" by EoD. I know this though if town doesn't vote together we are at a huge disadvantage. So I will be consolidating I just hope its a consolidation on vivax. | ||
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On July 03 2014 09:51 Rainbows wrote: ExO, you have so much conviction in your reads. You believed that Cav was cop for almost no reason. So did Poofter. I've seen many townies in this game including myself DOUBT that fact on multiple levels. Conviction comes when you are certain of someone's alignment. And town are never certain of anything. This is a misnomer btw. I said I was in the camp that I thought Cav was town but not that I was certain Cav even asked me a question about where I stood after I gave some reads awhile back. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2014 12:58 Cavalinho wrote: Poofter, do you actually have a decent read on me anywhere? I looked through your last three posts on me, and I see: *A read where I'm the cop or mafia, which doesn't say anything. *A read where you think I'm actually real. *Your very next post, which includes me in your list of mafia suspects, despite saying you thought I was real not even a post ago. Give me a read, and be straight with me. I want to know what you think. You're the second one along with ScumVivax who has tried to say I've been permanently thinking that Cav was town cop when in reality I've said he is probably the cop. Maybe your list isn't shit Kush. Vivax/Rainbows/Haru? | ||
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On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote: saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it. The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy. Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014. | ||
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On July 03 2014 09:59 Vivax wrote: This is bullshit and I explained why I found Cava scummy a multitude of times, starting from his post timings to him saying scum was on his wagon but not displaying that in his actions afterwards. If you want to figure me out then confront me with that instead of spouting shitty generalized nonsense. If you thought that X was Y alignment because of Z and I thought that train of thought was shitty I would say that I didn't think it was coming from a townie perspective. It is a generalization but its how I feel. Basically from what Cav was saying and how he was acting he didn't seem like scum who was forced to fake claim but town who AGAIN had to claim as cop day 1 this time he barely didn't get lynched. | ||
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On July 03 2014 10:05 Vivax wrote: Both NKd townies had Cav as scumread.so far. Make of it what you will. I think this game it would be a mistake to assume that town must have a cop. I have yet to play a game on this forums where there wasn't a cop in the game that I can recall. Especially with 13 players. My point is that if someone else brought up "hey vivax has these reads they were the same as dead town maybe he is a good guy" vs "HEY GUYS LOOK I HAVE THE SAME READS AS THE DEAD CONFIRM ME PLEASE" | ||
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On July 03 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote: I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player. I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do. When town is constantly mislynching a decent chunk of the time its because the active members are the mafia. Order had HF/Round as active mafia as well as Chrom day 1. | ||
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On July 03 2014 10:09 Vivax wrote: Except that you don't explain how exactly it's shitty, and 2 NKd townies so far felt the same about Cav. You must obviously be the pro and mafia kills all the baddies first. Go ahead and explain what happened to Cav's scumread of OO after he said he must've been on his wagon and called him rainbows scumbuddy. You lack either reading comprehension or aren't trying to figure out the stuff I wrote in my post. I don't say because in my head if you don't think the same as me its not townie. I know one person's alignment... mine and I know how I think and I think he is likely town if you think differently to me I think thats weird. I can be wrong and will be wrong have already on mderg. I haven't liked you since day 1. Kush apparently thinks you're town so I probably just lose to you if you're mafia at this point because all town needs to vote together. I read just fine thanks. As for Cav's scumread can you link the post I don't recall that part. I think you're scummy and we probably just lose because you've been active I can only hope we hit one of your partners. | ||
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On July 03 2014 10:13 Rainbows wrote: HF didn't do shit the entire game and Chrom stopped being active after day 2. It also had guys like Chairman who I scumread since day 1 but nobody lynched him the entire game even after i died. You know why? Because scum didn't want to lynch him, there was so much resistance to a CR lynch. And I'm feeling resistance to an ExO lynch. Like, I feel if ExO were town scum would just pile on him but I haven't seen more than 1-2 votes on him ever. So, therefore, I'm going with my original assumption. The main resistance is Me and Kush though and I know I'm town and I think he is vigi. | ||
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On July 03 2014 10:16 kushm4sta wrote: rainbows, only person resisting the exo lynch is me and tehpoofter and we are town. Fixed that for you kush. | ||
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On July 03 2014 10:28 kushm4sta wrote: poofter/oo/rainbows gaem is hard On July 03 2014 10:30 Rainbows wrote: There is literally no reason to believe I'm scum beside wild association cases that can't exist because I'm town. Lynch into ExO / Poofter / OO and then win the game. Please. The bus is so real! Pull off a bit Rainbows too obvious. | ||
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On July 03 2014 15:06 Vivax wrote: Modkill modkill modkill modkill Then read this: On July 03 2014 15:11 Vivax wrote: But I hope that you will get modkilled cause you already carry a warning on your back, and normally editing after a warning means modkill, but I don't know how HF will handle this. and realized he wasn't kidding and is still scum for openly wanting a mod kill on someone this feels like someone tattling on someone in school. Asking for someone to be modkilled is pretty scummy tbh. | ||
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On July 04 2014 06:22 Tehpoofter wrote: Did OO ever claim? why yes he did poofter he claimed doctor. So Between the 3 claims one almost assuredly is fake. Kush is most believable because he claimed to have shot Palmer and at night was asking people about palmer being town. He also yelled at robik for claiming it and asked him why he was being stupid like he KNEW he was the one who did it. Cav is basically forced to claim day 1. He claims or dies. It felt to me like the newbie game where he claimed on day 1 and still got lynched. (Almost happened again) He has since gotten pushed on by who I think is the scummiest person in the game Vivax then backed off then pushed some more. OO is claiming at a lylo situation as the last person to claim. He has the post where he softed twice it seems. Which is good but being kinda out of the game and not initially wanting to lynch cav (in his claim post) looks weird for him a bit. He has been one of my townier reads so I'm not really sure. I feel like if OO had opened the day with his claim instead of being the last one it would make him probably the town. For me I'd say kush is easily the most believable I could see the other two being scum and town. I don't really see a world with 2 pr's that are scum Vigi Cop and Vigi Medic both seem like fairly balanced setups. Purely setup wise I feel like Vigi Cop is more likely because it seems scum only has 1 kp and if there is Vigi medic and medic gets some saves the game becomes really hard for scum. Although town not having a cop makes it hard for town as well. So in the 3 we have probably a 33% chance (more like 50% if you believe kush) or in the other 5 we have a 50% chance from my POV (or anyone in the other 5 of hitting a scum) or a 40% chance if you are outside the claims. I think for me the mafia is Vivax/Rainbows or Haru and one between OO/Cav For me I'd love to kill vivax because hes my strongest read. I think kush has had the wool pulled over his eyes by the amount of posting hes doing. But imagine a world where him and OO are scumbuddies and vivax works all day to make the cop look bad and just for insurance has OO come in and claim medic to his preestablished claim. Bleh I need to think about this. | ||
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People I won't lynch today are Myself, Kush and ExO. | ||
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On July 04 2014 07:20 Rainbows wrote: OO's claim could also be fake. FML blues with no saves or checks. everyone is scum Why are you town over Haru/Vivax??? Where do you think you want to lynch today? | ||
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On July 04 2014 07:31 Rainbows wrote: My night post list looks good. cav/exo/poof/oo. Explain to me hwo Exo is in anyways mafia??? This dude just oozes town with everything he posts. | ||
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I highlighted who I wanted to lynch and made it clear in the posts before that. I'm saying we need to make sure town is all in the same spot. I say its the best shot between Vivax/Rainbows/Haru you and Cav are a coin flip from my PoV. I won't lynch myself Kush or ExO. Did you even read my other posts? Why didn't you claim at the start of hte day after you saw the night kill? You would have to know its lylo. | ||
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On July 04 2014 07:52 ObviousOne wrote: waited for the opportunity to CC mafia fakeclaim and it never came Did you think there were 3 prs in the game? Like did you think mafia would have a fake claim of another PR when 3 prs in this setup would be insanely town favored. ExO He is the only one claiming medic. | ||
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On July 04 2014 07:57 Rainbows wrote: or you know its safe to fakeclaim because there are no other claims out there. the wifom is strong. Poof, why were you a ghost this entire game and finally doing stuff now? I have spoken up throughout the game not as much as I would have liked to but generally for me when I'm off work I play video mafia and not much forum mafia I play mafia at work because I have a lot of downtime. So when I have days off I don't play as much. I'm working until Monday though so plenty of time! Which do you want to lynch between the claims or the ones who are unclaimed? | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:25 kushm4sta wrote: lol scum is trying really hard now becaues the victory is in sight. amirite poofy? Yeah I assume thats why Vivax spent the whole night berating Cav and shitting up the thread asking for mod kills. Kush man if you think I'm mafia you better pray that OO is the real claim because thats the only way we don't lose. | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:29 kushm4sta wrote: i think poofter is the lynch today. every possible scumteam has him on it. So why do you think I'm scum? Is it because I don't have any strong connections? Is it because I disagree that Vivax is town because he posts a lot? Is it because I haven't been around? Is it because I believed Cav? | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:30 kushm4sta wrote: see i remember you from last game. you were that dude who kept saying wolfy. u were good tho. this game you bad. only baddies suspect vivax. town poofypoof would never think vivax was mafia. I was the one saying Wolfy. I did heavily push on Ketomai who was town. I had Chairman ray and got super pocketed by Robik/HF. I was more active that game for sure. So if you think I'm scum for my activity then thats fine nothing I can do to change that. But I think my reads are pretty fucking good. I was wrong on Mderg but I've been calling out Vivax since day 1. When I get that kind of a read I don't stop it unless something is done to make me think differently and simply posting a lot is not going to do it. I will conceed that if Vivax is town I might lose the game for us and I can maybe reconsider but honestly I don't see him being town with the way he has handled Cav as well as him just in generally harping similar points repeatedly as opposed to looking in different directions. Please convince me why I'm wrong on Vivax. Like honestly he was even hoping Exo would get mod killed when Exo is the most obvious town in this game. | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:33 kushm4sta wrote: lawl scum love asking questions like that^ So town wouldn't ever ask? | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:36 kushm4sta wrote: that plus poe plus a million other scum thigns you did im forgetting you're not forgetting them they just didn't happen and you just want to be right on Vivax. So lets say lets go for one of my partners kush. How about that? Lets hit one of my team I'll even let you pick. If you've read my posts you know who I want but fuck it you pick tell me who to vote for you're my most confirmed next to ExO so as long as its not me you or ExO I think I have a >50% chance of hitting mafia with any of them. | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:49 ExO_ wrote: scum tum is rainbows/Harurh/vivax so we can all agree that HaruRH is scum then who gives a fuck about all the combinations everybody seems to have, lets pull the trigger on HaruRH Try not to interrupt Kush when he's trying to lose the game. | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:43 kushm4sta wrote: i want to kill you because i 100% know you are scum. the things you are syaing right now are scummy scummy arguments. Exo is not the most obvious town. THat you think that reveals that you have inside information. Many towns this game thought exo was scum. Plus, WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK if vivax said "modkill modlkill!" That is so superficial a reason for scumreading someone. There is no way you really think scum is any more likely to do that. Jokingly saying it = townie but actively wanting someone to die that could be town on lylo=scummy. Especially since he thoguht that vivax was mafia. Basically it would be like me asking for your modkill because I think you're town but you're wrong on me. IT only benefits me and not town cause like there is a chance you decide you want to win and try to kill someone else. | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:52 ExO_ wrote: what are prs? I was saying if poofter and OO both medic claimed I'd have to rethink, but poofter said he's not claiming medic. ExO please stop being so town or Kush's shitty arguments will look dumb and he might have to reconsider instead of just losing the game instantly. | ||
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On July 04 2014 08:57 ExO_ wrote: 3 PRs is too many you think? We have no way of knowing how many are in the game right? I could believe 3/13 could be blue. Its too many Pr's Kush is right about this its 1 between Cav OO most likely maybe kush pulled off a really amazing claim as scum vigi (It would explain his town read of vivax and scum read of me its not unjustified as I was afk a bunch but the fact he's not reading me as town now sucks) I don't think he did do that though. The other 2 are between me you vivax haru and rainbows. For me I think its Vivax #1 then Rainbows/Haru. I tend to think that OO is more likely to be scum over Cav because of the fact that OO waited forever to claim a role after everyone else which was odd and doesn't seem to be involved but that could change. | ||
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On July 04 2014 09:04 kushm4sta wrote: Why did robik die over me? That was the question. It is because scum were afraid I would be medic protected. Robik died over you. to serve Vivax's WiFoM I brought it up yesterday and he got very antsy. | ||
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On July 04 2014 09:07 kushm4sta wrote: boldified is total shite reasoning once again. obviously scum know there another pr. How is that bad? If OO is scum everyone is basically saying "if another PR claims then Cav is mafia" So he thinks there probably isn't BUT to be safe wait around and be the last one to claim if someone else happens to claim he can say VT. By waiting for last he is basically playing it safely. He claimed he did it to see if there was a cc but like he should basically know Cav is fake or the setup is broken. So why would scum claim a 2nd pr to further discredit their other pr. Its very odd reasoning. | ||
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On July 04 2014 09:09 kushm4sta wrote: WHY IS IT SCUMMY TO WAIT FOREVER TO CLAIM... plus he actualyl claimed way earlier but everyone thought it was fake. Cause he doesn't risk a cc if he claims last. duh. If I was scum its what I would have done. You buy yourself a day at lylo basically get a chance to get someone else lynched whicch is all you need. Cav could still be scum and OO could still be medic I honestly think its 50/50 and would rather lynch into the unconfirmed today cause I feel like they have played more scummy than either Cav or OO. | ||
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On July 04 2014 09:14 kushm4sta wrote: dude scum KNOW there is another pr. So they are going to have a claim ready. THere is no way 1 shot vigi is town's only pr. I agree. but if Cav is town and cop scum can claim the other PR to discredit Cav. Like its an easy thing to do. Scum would think there isnt 3 but to BE SAFE claim last. I mean if OO is scum and Cav is town then kush/cav vigi cop looks good so OO can come in and because basically the way it looked was that cav gets lynched if another PR claims. So he waits and claims just in case the setup is totally imbalanced so that scum gets the ML on cav or maybe someone else and takes himself out of play on lylo and he clearely had ti planned regardless of alignment. | ||
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On July 04 2014 09:15 kushm4sta wrote: if OO is scum, scum aren't afraid of a CC, because they know you are town's only other pr. They would assume but no reason to claim HF may be shit at making a setup who knows. Anyways I don't think we lynch into claims anyways tbh. I think we lynch into unknowns. I'm going to lunch for real. | ||
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On July 04 2014 09:19 kushm4sta wrote: poofter is so scum it makes me want to punch something. back from lunch. try your own face cause thats what I want to punch. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:01 Vivax wrote: Heyrainbows I was just thinking about you. On July 04 2014 10:02 Rainbows wrote: You guys are silly this isn't scumchat. Ya'll can have that convo there. | ||
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On July 04 2014 09:52 Vivax wrote: Kush, you're a hero scum mvp So Vivax you think I have to be mafia I'm assuming. I think the same of you. How fucked is town if were both town? Like I know if I get voted we just lose so anyway you can convince me your'e town? kush seems to think you're town maybe I'm just playing a shit game but if I did manage to read you as town game is ez for me one of OO/Cav and then Haru/rainbows. So let me in on why you're so town | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:06 Vivax wrote: Poofter can you give us your final combination of scummers as you see it most likely? Mine is you/Cav/Exo Where I'm at right now You/Rainbows/OO. God were so fucked if were both town lol. I'm going to have you convinced by end of day I'm town. Its going to be super hard to pretend to think I'm mafia if you're scum so plan your escape accordingly. I don't get misslynched it has never happened before and Its fucking not happening now. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:08 Vivax wrote: Sorry for calling you bad if you're town Haru, what I actually mean is that you have an interesting way of writing and thinking about things that makes it pretty hard to follow you sometimes. I really want to call you town but then I read this and I think "oh Vivax is sucking up to the town to get him to vote on the ML" alksdjlkasjdlkajsdlkajdlak Please just do something townie. Explain why I'm scum with like everyone why I have to be scuim and can never be town. Ttell me why I'm with Cav and ExO (FUCKING EXO REALLY???AS?AS?) | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote: I like this game but I don't like the timing you wanna start playing it at, which is when your head approaches the noose. I have been playing. I said earlier when I work I generally have the time to play, I was on yesterday I got on today and had no votes on me at all. None. I still don't have that many I'm not even sure if I'm the one set to be lynched but I don't want ot get threre. EoD is the time I wish I could have been here more but its the time of day I actually work at work (3-4pm my time) when I get setup for the day so its hard to make it. So Like aside from what you percieve as only playing at the time when I'm getting voted on what else have I done scummy? Also is my whole team just afk? Like I don't really see anyone stepping up to say I'm town at lylo or maybe x is better than poofter or pushing other cases or anything. If I'm mafia my team is either a) going to win anyways and is sacrificing me or b)Doesn't care and shitty. Which do you think is more likely? | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:13 Vivax wrote: Poofter do you think that Exo is town for all the confidence he's showing into me and Haru and that he doesn't let off the target to look for alternatives? Someone said it before but the way hes playing the game and using confirmation bias. He also is very stubborn on some points but lose on others. He brought up last game and wants to be more assertive it feels like. He just feels like a new townie. He feels like someone who as scum would definitely not be this confident or talking this much or fighting as much unelss you guys were partners and set it up before hand. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote: You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote: Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:19 Vivax wrote: Anyway it would be nice to hear if you think that Exo's confidence makes him town. It kinda answers itself though cause evidently you don't see it as scummy. I do think his confidence makes him town. Confident people are normally townie scum have to seem unconfident because they might be forced to change at an instant. Like if ExO is scum with Cav like you seem to think he is calling two people that could be another PR scum hard core and will look like a dolt if they flip/claim pr. Hes painting himself into a bad corner this way. So to me confidence=townie. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:19 Rainbows wrote: Omg if exo and vivax are buddies wp wp lol jokes on you its me and vivax and hes about to come around and say I'm townier lets lynch someone else and we win. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:21 Vivax wrote: This is what you wrote earlier about me Poofter which is not only fundamentally wrong for the majority of the game, but is also the main trait Exo has been displaying lately by continuosly pushing me and Haru with his little speeches when he could have discussed a multitude of other things. The main difference is the player Vivax you have more experience on TL and therefore would know better than to do this as town. ExO on the otherhand would tend to do what hes doing more as town than as scum. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:25 Rainbows wrote: Exactly? That's what you and exo have been doing, calling him town. Although IDK how calling cav town if he's scum makes one look any better. SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote: Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. well if you're town then I think between Haru and rainbows it doesn't matter. Haru's play has been disconjointed from the thread. He almost got lynched yesterday but it was pulled off him (i was one of the ones advocating mderg so doesn't help me look townier if hes scum but still) Mafia would want to keep him aslive as long as he could. So the fact he went from a front runner to nothing without really putting up that huge of a defense and the lynch bandwagoned onto a townie doesn't look good for him. He came out after night kills day 1 and immediately started voting cav. I feel like this serves a purpose for scum regardless of Cav's alignment because he can claim "Hey I thought the cop was mafia if he flips green and maybe start a chain lynch onto Cav since he didn't kill him at night Or if cav is mafia he looks really good as the first person to start throwing doubt/votes on him and can point back to it later. (In video mafia we call this "Hipster mafia" they were thinking x was scum before it was cool) Rainbows who is the other one here if you're town and ExO is town (spoilers I think ExO is way more likely to be town) He has coasted off this day 1 town read the whole game. He is all too eager to show up on the right side of the votes basically following others around wihtout pushing his own cases very hard. Basically it seems like to me he is giving his input only when necessary. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:33 Vivax wrote: The only reason you'd look stupid if he flipped red is cause you didn't try to get a read on him the old fashioned way after he claimed. You were basically very comfy letting him slide only based on his claim, regardless of his real alignment. At least I tried to check your filter for instances where you try to figure out Cav post cop-claim but I can't find them. I explained it in one post in my filter here: (bolded and underlined the important part for your convenience) + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2014 14:29 Tehpoofter wrote: Good news boys I'll fully caught up Yesterday's lynch was really interesting. I think flipping Cav could give us a lot of information but I'm actually on the believing his claim side of things. Townville: Tehpoofter Kush - Claiming vigi and actually seems to give a fuck this game, is reaching out to people in thread like myself to play up, never lynching. Rainbows- I liked your posts midway through yesterday and today as well as your huge post in the night. My big question is why did you stay on Cav at EoD? I still don't think you'd be anywhere near my lynch list today. Robik - Day 1 was super townie he was doing a bunch of stuff that looks scummy as fuck but from my experience with him is most likely to be town. I will say that him being scum in order surprised me so I moved him down today for a couple things in the fact that he is falling off a bit and he claimed the shot from kush before kush claimed it was his shot. Now I feel like if he thought there was only one mafia kill Palmer was less likely to be a mafia target than Koshi but still could have been a TMI slip OO - He gets into the town because reading his posts anytime he did something I found scummy he followed it up with towniness. I even have a post where I thoguht he was scum then his next post put me at ease. People who confuse me: Vivax - His thing with Palmer early day 1 felt really scummy and I didn't really care for his EoD but his conversation he had with mderg mid day as well as others trying it seemed to talk to whoever about a couple of people felt less tunneled than he was being on Palmer. Maybe he just backed off staying tunneled on Palmer because I called him out or maybe he is town idk Cop check this person imo. People that are really bad at playing cop or mafia: Cav - If you're cop stop claiming on day 1 please lord. This feels like your newbie game when you had to claim and still got lynched. I am okay leaving you alive for now because if you're cop mafia might kill you or just spam rb and if you keep claiming rb and someone else gets rb you're basically confirmed mafia so even if you're mafia mafia is out their RB ability so town can do as they please basically. People who need to have a date with a big fire: Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia. Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read. I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia. Basically Cav being alive insures us that mafia has no way of blocking roles. Because either Cav gets role blocked every night or killed as town or they can't rb others if they do then Cav has to say he checked someone and finds himself in a really shitty spot as scum. In my mind it would be a claim he can't win with as scum but I'm not going ot help scum out by freeing up their role block and getting a free lynch for them on the cop if hes real. If OO is medic and Cav was fake I'd have expected him to come out of the day knowing its lylo ready to just bury Cav instead hes bored playing his game apparently doesn't claim until like 30 hours into the game. And now it makes it hard to decide between them. So basically you're correct I didn't mind what his alignment was I wanted to find scum outside that as I don't like playing into meta mafia (it happens a lot on video) | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:35 Vivax wrote: Also can you show me exactly where your read on Exo went from superscum to supertownie? I will once you answer some questions for me. 1) Why am I the most likely one to be scum? 2) What is the team if I'm town? 3) Which between Cav/OO do you think is real and why? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I'm too impatient to wait for you and work is mega slow. Exo's confidence coming out in this day has really turned me to him being town. Like I can't imagine a scumExO coming into lylo ready to do battle like this or pushing his reads or in that case misslynches so heavily. I feel like he would be one ot sit back and not say anything or at least only speak up in small enough bursts. Like ExOscum at lylo feels like the Don't get lynched type vs the find hte misslynch type. You know what I mean? | ||
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On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote: How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic. Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV. Why is Exo scum? | ||
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On July 04 2014 11:19 Rainbows wrote: No no you don't understand. You can't possibly make the argument that me and vivax are scumbuddies based on the logic "If they back each other / think the same, they are scum" because you have shown to be doing the same thing. If you are town, then your own logic doesn't make sense because you know you are town and have taken a side with ExO, and you would know that doesn't equal mafia. I think its also odd that you two haven't had any interaction or really suspected each other too much. The other sign of scum buddies. I agree its not the same but I have my information I know nothing of you. You could use the same on me and I wouldn't fault you for it cause you don't know I'm town. | ||
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I don't know that but I assume you would take things from that point of view if you were town. | ||
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On July 04 2014 11:26 Rainbows wrote: Poof my head hurts deciphering this. TLDR: You need to realize I'm Town voting me loses the game | ||
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On July 04 2014 11:49 Vivax wrote: You know, I've reread Haru a little and his participation cooled off so drastically lately that I'm playing with the thought I might indeed have been wrong about gutreading him town for all the weird stuff he has been saying early on. There are also holes in some of the stuff he said D1. He called TP, kush and mderg scum for calling him scum, more or less, and then ended up only pushing mderg constantly. Nope, overconfidence at lylo is a scumtell imo. Not so much in plurality as in instant majority. Got caught in voice mafia once cause I was too eager to push a single guy at lylo and treat the puppet as if I was super confident that he was town. It's situational but in this case I would say that Exo's confidence should at best be treated as null cause there are multiple scenarios where he can show it. 1) I've mentioned what I didn't like about you. The feeling that you were trying to keep your head low for example .The way you didn't try to figure out if Cav was town or scum based on some reasoning as to why he should be kept alive for mafia to waste roleblocks. Even if you say mafia has to waste roleblocks on him, that's unrelated to his alignment cause they have to do it either way, and that leaves us with you not trying to figure it out over the course of the game. 2) Currently rolling with OO being medic. I have to say that the trolly way he plays the game doesn't look like I know him as scum, where he tends to write longish (and serious), kinda nervous posts but on the other hand I don't think that's how a townie should play. The scumread on me that appeared out of nowhere does however trouble me ,as do all the claims in this game except for kush's. We neither have proof that there has to be a medic in the game nor proof that there's a cop which is very much in mafia's favour. That said, I'll assume for this question that he isn't scum. If you aren't scum then it'd be Haru/Exo/Cav by PoE. 3) As for what I said about OO, see the above. As to why I think Cav is a good candidate for scum is a lot of the way he played D1, already explained it: Starts by playing low profile or lazy or whatever, when it gets hot he drops a massive post, then claims and stops doing anything after his claim when he should still have been super active. To me that read like scum claiming, closing his eyes to the discussion and waiting for a counterclaim if you ask me. Just this was enough to give me the persistent strong feeling that he's scum. You're not taking into account the fact that ExO is newer to these forums. As mafia most new players play different than vets who have play lots of games. They come in confident or at least assured they know where the game has gone wrong as town. AS scum they come in timid knowing whats going wrong and they do I think like you said sometimes tunnel hard on someone knowing it leads them to victory but I get more of a confidence htat hes right and not just about todays lynch but future lynches Mafia wouldn't think like that they think for 1 day only. The fact you can't read ExO as town makes me think you're leaving him there to reevaluate possibly swing a lynch onto if you can't get me or something as scum. bleh. The Haru reevaluation is good. I think he has a chance of flipping scum but I'm worried its where you might go if people start realizing I'm town... why not Rainbows? | ||
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On July 01 2014 09:46 Tehpoofter wrote: Since Im apparently just talking to myself. A couple thoughts for the game. Why is everyone town reading Vivax? I really don't see it. I feel like his game play has not been townie. I think that he is probably upset that Palmer got shot because it gave him an easy tunnel and that was taken from him. He also is really playing up the Koshi kill making him look good which is scummy. Idk someone just let me know what I'm missing. I think that Robik and me are on the same page when it comes to Cav and how to handle him... at least I hope so by the way he is talking. So I feel like scum would have to kill both of us to play out the Cav situation in their favor. I'm sure others know what to do to but Look for guidance on that from Robik should I not be here. How many PRs does HF usually put into his games? (This one probably not best for discussions in thread but more of a food for thought) I'm going to look at other shit on here but I should be around for a couple hours. As its a common play in video mafia. | ||
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On July 04 2014 12:06 Vivax wrote: Hey Poofter I thought we were still playing the game where we both consider ourselves townies for the moment. I'm trying but you are making it difficult. So I saw the haru thing it is an odd line for scum what about rainbows? | ||
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On July 04 2014 12:22 Vivax wrote: Can you explain the evolution of your read on Exo? I see it 180ing somewhere in between these posts but don't know exactly why you're so confident about him being x or y and never something in between. The first read was made 5 days before the other one so to me it just because I thought to think that Cav was more town thus ExO's vote to "save" him didn't seem as scummy as well as the way he was posting. I've said it a bunch today but his play has really really put him over the edge. We obviously read the confidence thing differently (or there is another reason which I can't say) Like basically for me it has become a large PoE starting the day I needed to have my eyes open for someone I found townie and if I get that right I increase my odds of hitting a mafia a LOT at lylo I think its a very good strategy. Exo stood out ot me. From playing with him in Order he has the new town type feel to me. Like he wants his reads to be right hes confident in them uses everything he can to make them seem right. He has no problem posting a lot and about whatever he is thinking. As scum I don't think he has that confidence and most likely stays in the shadows. His attitude today has made him town adn I find it hard to believe you can't see that. Even kush who is reading me wrong at least sees that. Honestly if ExO is mafia well played sir you have done beautifully today. | ||
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On July 04 2014 12:28 Vivax wrote: Whatever man, I'm quite sure Poofter is scum at this point and this conversation is just too slow for my taste. The tough one will be choosing the right dudes between Cav/haru/exo. The impass at last sorry my logic and reason isn't townie enough for you ( or you're ignoring it as scum) because if you really are town were basically fucked. Like town has no chance even if one of us doesn't die today scum can just sit back and pin us against each other every day. | ||
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On July 04 2014 12:39 Vivax wrote: Dude I just keep reading about your townreads and scumreads at different points and it's just a fucking salad with mostly connection based stuff. At some point you even include Cav as possible mafia but still you never argue why he should be mafia, and when I ask you why, you reply with something unrelated saying that scum has to burn roleblocks on him. In one post you say I did some townie things in another you say you can't see at all what's townie about me. After N2 ended I'm suddenly your super scumread and wagon of justice while D2 you had Exo, mderg and haru as main scumreads, and that's the day you said "VIvax did some townie things." and and and I don't even feel like going on with the other stuff I find suspicious cause you most likely die today. And btw you shouldn't forget about the shit you post. Yep I have changed my reads a lot I do that as town cause I have to figure the game out I evolve with it. I think Someone is town or mafia depending upon the day and how votes are going. You have been consistently in my scum reads since day 1 I would say that is my most consistent read. I didn't like your interaction with Palmer. So I find it odd that you think evolving reads are some how scummy. Especially over the course of the game. I feel like as mafia you would see a clearer concise picture that only changed when it benefited someone how have my reads changing benefited me? Also yes I'm done with the cav thing I have no clue his alignment because of the way OO is playing I assumed if someone claimed another PR they would claim it in a townie fashion and we would lynch Cav but OO could easily be mafia trying to get that doubt out there with the way he played it so my view on that has changed. Cav could still be mafia his absence as of late is very odd in that regard. (Although OO Haru Rainbows have all been equally uninvolved today) Also OO could just be claiming in a bad way as town but I didn't perceive this to happen so it changes. | ||
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On July 04 2014 12:45 Vivax wrote: And btw Poofter half of your filter is just D3, so you're suddenly posting the same amount you posted in the 2 ingame days when you weren't under such pressure. Hey look another point I addressed earlier! I play from work I've been off work a lot this weekend (as well as weekends being hte busiest at my job) So I don't play much from home I do 80+% of my mafia at work. Also of course I'm going to post a bunch when town is about to lose by killing me I'm not one of those people that says "Well I did shitty as town sorry team gg" fuck that I fight I haven't ever been mislynched before and I don't plan on starting now. Look at Glory Mafia htat BH hosted I didn't post much day 1 and 2 and day 3/4 when I was under heat I had probably 90% of my filter we only lost because Someone played cop in a really fucking weird way ::cough:: cav ::cough:: ANOTHER REASON I think cav probably is town is because of that game he played it super weird and claimed another role like a donkey and we lost. Do you think at lylo I should be quiet? Should I just not talk and hope we end up on the right guy? When I joined the thread today the vote count was: + Show Spoiler + On July 04 2014 04:33 Holyflare wrote: Vote Count - Day 3: Vivax (1): HaruRH (2): ObviousOne (2): Vivax, HaruRH, Tehpoofter (2): kushm4sta, Rainbows Cavalinho (0): Not voting: Lazy people wanting to get modkilled. Currently ObviousOne is set to be lynched with 2 votes! Day will end in Remember: Voting is mandatory. If there is a tie, the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! So I could easily as scum start throwing dirt on Haru/OO and try to get it off me instead of PUSHING FOR VIVAX who I'm the only one voting atm. If you think my team is ExO/Cav/me why am I doing this? Who am I with that makes this most likely? Why not team up with my buddies on Haru? Or split it up and go OO?? I'm so town today it hurts this would have been a fucking cake walk as scum. | ||
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On July 04 2014 12:51 Vivax wrote: Though I'm not really comfortable with the thought of not being here at lylo. Why would you die at night? Don't you think I'm mafia what would i do without you around? | ||
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On July 04 2014 12:54 Rainbows wrote: does anyone else feel like no matter what anyone says we're just going to vote the same people we wanted to 24 hours ago regardless? That's what this vivax / poofter thing feels like. Its cause kush has made up his mind that I'm mafia and mafia doesn't want to fuck it up by posting its like the ONLY reason I think vivax might be town that he is seemingly very concerned with carrying out a dialog with me. | ||
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On July 04 2014 13:07 ObviousOne wrote: i have no idea about player x because i don't understand player y relationships between unflipped players is a beautiful thing also totally useless thx The claims mean a lot. This game likely has two PRs I feel like Cav and you are hardly ever aligned in this game SO if you claimed like I imagine I would claim as medic I would be like sweet lets lynch cav but you claimed like I would have done as mafia so now I'm more inclined to think you're mafia except that you play is kinda bad and obvious as mafia but apparently lots of people are buying it so like maybe I'm wrong so I'm unsure | ||
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On July 04 2014 13:45 Vivax wrote: Ok, to the townread shelf. Now definitively. Congratz on your efforts and results, keep it up. HAHAHAHAHAHA this gave you a town read???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Can you two just start posting lolcats and shit now like you're basically confirmed teammates with a bullshit interaction in the thread. Kush is bad if he can't see this. Jesus Now I have to pander to Haru and Rainbows one of which is probably scum and pray we can vote one of you faster than you guys can vote me (unlikely) gg | ||
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On July 04 2014 13:46 Cavalinho wrote: Vivax why is it that you only want to lynch the weakest players in the game? Are you calling me weak bitch? | ||
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On July 04 2014 13:49 Cavalinho wrote: Take a look at the people you've scumread over the course of the game: Me, who has had thread sentiment against him since day 1. Mderg, who is generally very clumsy as town and was busy for the majority of that day. Poofter, who wasn't here for half the game. Exo, who is new. Do you or do you not see the problem with these scumreads? Hes mafia cav thats why he is going for the easy lynches hes lucky kush is trying to throw or he would be in a really hard spot but kush thinks its me so we probably lose. Vote Vivax with me maybe we can get a majority before mafia gets one on me. | ||
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IVE NEVER been misslynched and its not starting today. NEVER on the forums EVER. But I have been afk a bunch so I dug myself a deeper hole than I wanted to. | ||
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On July 04 2014 13:54 Cavalinho wrote: I'm giving him a townread for the moment to see if his point of view makes sense. Also, stop posting run on sentences for the love of all things. fuck periods | ||
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On July 04 2014 13:57 Vivax wrote: I see the problem that you're judging them purely based on an hypothetical skill level or thread sentiment or activity instead of judging them based on their posts, like I'm doing. With that logic you use I shouldn't even be looking at them, cause they're "weak". Unless you can give me a good reason for each of these people being town, then your post right now is confirmed scummy bullshit. Mderg is clumsy as town, so he can't be scummy. Poofter wasn't here for half the game, so he can't be scummy. Exo is new, he can't be scummy. You played like ass D1 and most thought that way too, so you can't be scummy. - Cav, 2014 Your contention is vivax that scum played so shitty this game they're super obvious at lylo when there has been no mafia killed. Not that mafia is playing well and controlling the game? interesting. This guy is your town kush good find. | ||
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On July 04 2014 13:52 Vivax wrote: Yes, it gave me a townread. I don't think OO has made all of that up and I know he talked a lot about his smoking habits in the past, it just looks like a sincere answer for why he's playing like that. It does make me sad he doesn't enjoy mafia anymore but to each his own. So he wouldn't ever pander to your past knowledge of the smoking thing? Not something he would do as mafia? lol. | ||
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On July 04 2014 14:08 Vivax wrote: I don't see the point in continuing this conversation unless you wanna prove that OO is mafia for some reason. The read is mine to make and if you don't get the same feels I do from that post then I'm not obligated to explain it to you. You're the guy who has to show his townieness, not me. Exo, Cav and Poofter alone can't do much on their own against all the other guys who aren't scumreading me. I'm just saying that you are town reading him off nothing. It feels like to me you may have realized I was gaining ground in our exchange and wanted to have some interaction between teh two of you. So he comes out and says some bullshit and you go "oh wow townshelf" when you questioned cav for like a solid 2 days and got nothing. Like the fact some of your reads take 1 post to become town shelf vs 2 days of stuff on cav who you were unsure of. Like that doesn't add up. I mean can you honestly say that because OO makes one post and you go "yep town" Why not pressure him like you did cav? Why not do that? | ||
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I always leave blue hints in my games If you recall in order I made a claim to be cop where I was VT I do this in all games os that when I actually get a role I can breadcrumb pretty obviously and get away with it if people know my meta | ||
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And if I'm mafia with cav I know there is anotehr role right so why set it up like that? OO definitely didn't notice cause he was role hunting as mafia right? just an astute townie? | ||
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On July 04 2014 14:43 Vivax wrote: This is all from Exo's presumption that scum was on mderg and not on Haru cause haru is mafia in his eyes. But yeah, I'm aware that he has only shown interest into pushing me, Haru and rainbows as possible scum. If he and Poofter are scumbuddies, Exo is forced to react now, so sit back and enjoy the show as he abandons his aggressive push on me and starts "considering" that Poofter is scum. At least I hope that it is the situation we're in. As for people townreading you for no reason, point me to who you mean specifically cause I don't wanna sift through all filters to find out right now. ITs not I'm not mafia the mafia team is Vivax/OO (this buddying is insane they're driving the win home town is going to lose) and one between Rainbows adn HAru I'm leaning Rainbows because Vivax was trying to get me to go on Haru earlier and seems to be leaving him open to switch to. TEHPOOFTER IS TWON | ||
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On July 04 2014 14:46 ObviousOne wrote: d1: sinani206 (6): HaruRH (1): Cavalinho (6): d2: HaruRH (4): ObviousOne, mderg (6): Tehpoofter, HaruRH, kushm4sta, just wanted to stare at it for a minute in this form, guess i'll post it I thought I liked staring more like this. | ||
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On July 04 2014 15:09 ObviousOne wrote: Vivax (1): HaruRH (2): ObviousOne (2): Vivax, HaruRH, Tehpoofter (3): kushm4sta, Rainbows, ObviousOne Cavalinho (0): push vivax all day, relent and switch to haru? sick scumplan i know what you're up to guys game solved gg This vote count was earl in the day really early those colors suck but why am I pushing Vivax over say YOU??? With 2 people on it that aren't on my team eh? What sense does that make? | ||
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On July 04 2014 15:17 ObviousOne wrote: here HF this is for when we finally lynch mafia: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLL Good the lolcating starting early. | ||
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On July 04 2014 15:18 Rainbows wrote: OO have a vote ##unvote ##vote: ObviousOne by antithetical request. Where did this come from? | ||
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On July 04 2014 16:59 HaruRH wrote: 8 people left 3 scum* doesnt that make this lylo oh shit Haru who are your 3? did you read my vivax interaction? | ||
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On July 05 2014 01:18 kushm4sta wrote: Tomorrow we lynch the imposter pr. Wrong tomorrow is game over. You've lost the game. Do you not see vivax and oo buddying and eh town reads him on nothing at all? Sorry to town that you guys can't see that I'm town I should have played better. Look how easy this is going through. I'm literally the only one fighting for me. Does that not give you pause? How much of what was written last night did you skip Kush? | ||
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Him or you doesn't care because we lose today. I'm a mislynch we have to vote someone else or it's game over. | ||
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On July 05 2014 01:14 HaruRH wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Tehpoofter I still strongly believe that oo/exo/cav is the scum tho. It's certainly not me you have your vote on a town. | ||
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Vivax is just coasting as scum with that "I won't be around" that's code for "I shouldn't have to post anymore because enough town believe me but I'll be lurking if I need to hammer someone" I bet if we all voted vivax he would magically show up again. | ||
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Leaning the final misslynch. | ||
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I know at this point most likely 3 mafia have voted on me plus you and one town. Even if I convinced the other town I still would get lynched and we lose. This is a fact. I'm literally willing to vote on anyone else but myself today. I think mafia are vivax/oo/ one between rainbows and haru. But if you think I'm with anyone let's vote them I'll switch over. Exo is my top town outside Kush he's also newer I feel like voting him will just get me another vote. Cav is in my mind the cop and voting him will just make him vote me most likely. I will still vote them even though it's suicidal. So I'll vote both of them because the percent chance to win is higher than if I die (which is 0%) so fuck it Kush has two votes now. I won't self vote ever but anyone else he votes I'll vote. Where should I vote Kush? I+ Show Spoiler + nb4 Kush isn't town and I'm begging a mafia for my life | ||
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On July 05 2014 05:29 kushm4sta wrote: poofter, i think you're scum with rainbows and cav You're wrong but even if you did believe me there isn't enough people around to switch so tis w.e. Mafia played well I fucked off too much before the last day. I'm gonna go focus on my other games after having onee more fun post here. | ||
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On July 05 2014 05:39 kushm4sta wrote: im sure there is. now vote him please. Mafia Mvp Goes to: KUSHM4STA!!!! For shooting the only other person playing the game that thoguht Vivax was scum and misslynching a townie with hardly any mafia help at lylo! | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + END GAME ' The world cup is over! The Robot Fifa's have won! Tehpoofter Brazil Vanilla Town was lynch! + Show Spoiler + You are Brazil (VT). You are the hosts of the world cup! You're one of the favourites to win (I have money on you at least), your country is pretty beautiful, the beaches are awesome and the women are too. You have the home crowd advantage and there's nothing that can stop you winning! Apart from the mafia that is. The Winning Mafia team was: Vivax France Goon ObviousOne The Netherlands Roleblocker Rainbows Germany Goon HaruRH Korea Goon (Switch in the real one between Rainbows and Haru) Mafia QT: + Show Spoiler + Vivax: Lawl come post OO so I can town read you for no reason. OO: KK brb playing this game for a bit Vivax: Kush so silly rolling over here Haru/Rainbows: I should do something Vivax: Naa just don't talk and wait for End of day Vivax: GG TEAM! Obs QT:+ Show Spoiler + Robik: GOD DAMNIT KUSH HOW DO YOU LET THIS KIND OF SHIT FLY On July 03 2014 06:40 Vivax wrote: ##Vote ObviousOne On July 04 2014 13:45 Vivax wrote: Ok, to the townread shelf. Now definitively. Congratz on your efforts and results, keep it up. He goes from voting him to reading one post of his and saying "Oh lawls town shelf" Seriously? This is why I died over you kush. Holyflare: Mafia Coasting to this victory its a shame that the town doesn't see how Poofter is reaching out to everyone especially kush to try to save the game. He fucked up not playing the first couple days as hard so not totally on kush but he hasn't even considered that hes wrong all day. Koshi: They can't possibly think the lynch on a mafia would be this easy. Even if it was ExO/Cav/Poofter. Palmer: FUCKING KUSH YOU MORON SHOOT ME NAD THROW THE GAME!!!! Holyflare: Yeah Town was in a tough spot with Cop having to out day 1 but they could have pulled it together here if not for inactivity and a confirm being wrong. Let the discussion begin!!! | ||
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On July 05 2014 05:46 kushm4sta wrote: omg i will feel so bad ITs my fault too I should have playe dmore earlier. | ||
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On July 05 2014 05:56 kushm4sta wrote: let the shit hit the fan as it may and i will feel like shit and cry afterwards Honestly its not all you like I blame you yes but its me a lot too I played to my scum meta a good deal. I thoguht I reached out enough in the end but i guess not :/ | ||
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On July 05 2014 05:56 ExO_ wrote: even if I switch and poofter switches, thats still 3-5 and won't be enough Mafia is just being quite cause they want the win They're here I guarentee | ||
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On July 05 2014 05:59 Rainbows wrote: Plz no fliperino townerino like you don't already know. | ||
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On July 05 2014 06:00 kushm4sta wrote: You did not get through to me with compelling arguments Like I said I tried I was in too deep a hole to prove it to you gg though. Better luck next time. | ||
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I was surprised at how closely it stuck to the actual world cup results. We got a pretty good couple of night actions RBing OO before he claimed. Me and Cav kinda had to all in at mylo and kush chose correctly. I thought rainbows had it but in the end tonw played well and mafia was lucky to get to where they did. GG Sry scum team for not being better. | ||
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On July 11 2014 06:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I just realized that I've lost every single game that I've played. Its not about winning or losing its about trying to make robik upset as much as possible. (Or at least thats why I play) | ||
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On July 11 2014 06:52 ExO_ wrote: Did you guys block Kush on night 2? Umm I'm not sure I'd have to look at the QT again but yeah I was fairly sure it would be a 1-shot vigi or every other night at the most. | ||
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On July 11 2014 06:52 Holyflare wrote: mafia didn't even use the withold kp mechanics man, there was so much to help x_X Had we done that the night Cav got "saved" it would have been VERY useful. but killing robik is so much fun. | ||
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On July 11 2014 07:01 ObviousOne wrote: Btw Sinani had a great D1 in terms of activity that was great to see. Gj! Yeah Robik's line was kind of silly but I agreed with it whole heartedly as mafia. | ||
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