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On July 30 2014 07:35 Vivax wrote: How sure are you that I'm mafia. About 5 sure | ||
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Your posts. "speed round" in all caps etc etc | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:39 Vivax wrote: Serious posts for a start and then avoid serious answers with a bullshit answer. Do you have the guts to meet me tomorrow, at noon? So are you saying what i said is wrong or a lie? This is a typical reversal statement to avoid the original statement. | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote: I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning. Do you have the guts? I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"? Very bad vivax | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:54 kushm4sta wrote: um ok so first vivax is too tryhard, must be scum.. now vivax is sidetracking analysis? those seem like contradictory points. Furthermore I would not describe vivax's play as either of those things. No. Selectively picking out something and making it seem like it's different and then writing a longer paragraph than needed on it = try hard. Scummy. Vivax then sidetracks MY analysis on his post to a silly question which he would know there's only one real answer to. Scummy. Then he keeps talking about dueling me tomorrow instead of discussing why something is wrong ot right or why specifically he picked sloosh out of 3 people that posted similarly. Scummy. | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:56 Palmar wrote: afk If this is the whole night, lynch him. | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:02 kushm4sta wrote: vivax dont you think two scummy people should duel each other, rather than 1 scummy vs 1 townie? Ultimately the best thing but not sure if it's awful with 1 town 1 mafia either cz then people have to be analytical and you can spot the inconsistencies | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:06 slOosh wrote: kush, give us your feels on Vivax & HolyFlare. You're the one that vivax was targeting i think it's best from you | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:34 Holyflare wrote: Other joke posts/not caring posts from me and ritoky and you pick out sloosh who is doing the same thing and write a big paragraph explaining it. Reeks of too mafia try hard. Is this wrong? You even said i was doing the same thing as sloosh straight after so why did you only mention sloosh and not ritoky and me? Why the fluffy way of phrasing how what he did was bad for town? Why is it so hard to get an answer out of you instead of repetitive questions back at me? | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:09 kushm4sta wrote: HF, i like the reasons why you are calling vivax scum, but I don't think those reasons apply to vivax. It scares me about your alignment because it's like you know what makes someone scummy but you are misapplying it. Set up talk is bad? I'd say it's not alignment indicative usually, but I think there is an optimal way to play this setup and if discussion can bring us towards that, it is productive and protown. How do those 2 go together? If you like the reasons then surely that means they are accurate and not misapplied? Why do they not apply to vivax? | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:16 Vivax wrote: It's pretty simple to explain actually, he thinks you're using sound reason to scumread somebody, but he doesn't think that those reasons to me. Further explanation doesn't seem necessary since in theory you should be more capable of understand english than me. Thanks for answering for another player. Why are you not disagreeing with this quote then seeing as apparently everything I've said is a misrepresentation and wrong but instead answering his intentions? Why does it not apply to you? | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: I picked SlOosh's post cause it interfered with my intent and was after all, a post that might or might not tell me he's scumreading me. It was one of those posts that have the potential to cause chaos while you try to get a productive discussion going, and people making those posts can say it was meant seriously or as a joke afterwards, whatever they prefer and is most comfortable for them in the moment they have to explain it. Didn't see this but whatever. Got my eye on you. | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:25 kushm4sta wrote: HF case on vivax: 1. tryhard "longer paragraph" on sloosh's fake duel it wasn't even near a paragraph. Vivax looks like he was just doing his due diligence pressuring earlygame derp. plus your statement that it was the same as ritoky is not true, because fake dueling is closer to something very harmful to town like fake claiming. ritoky just said random shit. 2. he keeps talking about dueling you tomorrow/sidetracking analysis he mentioned dueling you only once in a very indirect way. how is he sidetracking analysis when all he did was answer your joke with another short joke.. you say : how much do you scumread me? he says : 5 much you say : do you have the guts to duel me that is sidetracking analysis?? The first sentence has already taken the edge away from the original analysis thus sidetracked it by not answering it and instead asking another question that has a more than obvious response for 30 minutes into a game. Fake duelling is so troll it's obvious and incomparable to fake claiming. Vivax posted why now and it's acceptable though so I'll just let him carry on because if he is mafia he won't be able to keep it up. | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:31 Palmar wrote: I am 100% sure HF is mafia, but with the caveat that he might not be. I refuse to explain this. You just got shot n1 after afking as town and it was said you normally get shot n1 too. So why post the afk? | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Check World Cup before Day. Post what you think here. It's important. Already did. | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:35 Palmar wrote: Stop posting please so the thread remains readable. If you don't want to read a thread with actual posting of content and questioning then go away back to your shitty afk | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:42 Palmar wrote: I understand I'm sort of enabling you by responding. But if you are town, you should know that most people don't actually read 300 pages of game content. I know you do, but I also know not nearly everyone does. When I am mafia, I want nothing more than the thread ending up at least 100 pages on day 1. It ensures town isn't actively looking into specific things, just sort of goes along with some hive-mind mentality. It is far better if townies agree to consolidate posts and only point out important things that need pointing out. So, yes, I understand you enjoy spamming as much as you can. But I'm asking you to try not to. Spamming is far less effective than it used to be anyway, due to people actually picking up on the fact that for a while we just assumed everyone who spammed was town. For you to say this implies that what I'm doing in the thread currently is "not productive" which is silly and trivial and just not true. If that's the case then you aren't reading the thread and your afk attitude is far more detrimental to a game than someone 'spamming' it. You've come here and ignored everything that's happened so far to write "afk" and then some spiel that you could have done pre-game. That's not good at all. You've also criticised my spam but the 3 posts that you've made so far are all spam and useless. | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't really care if you think I'm forced or not. What an asinine thing to say. Please don't downgrade it to this level this game. If you think it's a bad thing to say reason out why it's bad. If it's a scummy thing say it's scummy. Don't just throw out the randomness. | ||
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Holyflare is trying to create something out of nothing. I guess that could be townflare, but he's overly confrontational and it's giving me bad vibes. Especially his completely ridiculous calling out of what was a very easily understandable sentence by Kushm4sta. If Kush is mafia, this is not why. The best way to read kush quickly is to get him to elaborate on everything he is saying and make sure it's fully reasoned out. Thanks for inadvertent flaming mid post though. Keep up the hate! | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:11 Vivax wrote: Whatever I shouldn't waste time arguing with scum. This can only be solved during the day. I'm not really arguing. Your first post is fluffy for the time it was stated as people were doing similar things. Your second post is articulated why specifically sloosh's post relates to your fluffy post. Which makes sense. Hence why i said what i said. Palmar you played with ritoky in cell and he's pretty similar or do you not remember freedom joking? | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:11 Vivax wrote: Whatever I shouldn't waste time arguing with scum. This can only be solved during the day. Forgot to add that you should stop tunneling your inner koshi. | ||
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With logic. | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:33 Vivax wrote: What do you mean with "cases like that". What category does your case fall into that I don't know of. Cases that are early with no proper questioning (although i kind of did question) and assuredness that the person is mafia. | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think Palmar is town. Anyone disagree? What made you say this by the way because i got the opposite feeling till he posted his read thing. | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: His concern of you drowning the thread in high-quantity posting showed concern for having a good town atmosphere. I think that's a towny thing to think. Why did you think the opposite? Because it implies what i was doing in the thread previously was useless and is very easy to post to "show concern" as that requires no effort aka easy for mafia to do. Especially when all of his filter was spam. Hypocrisy. Either way. I think I'm going to come around to his ritoky read. | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't see how that implies anything. You are, by nature, an incredibly high-volume, high-activity poster. Why is it that his concern for the number of your posts is a bad thing? I understand that that post could be replicated by a mafia, but I don't get why you don't put any stock into it. Palmar is good at mafia. I'm a high volume poster in every game. This is the first time he's ever made a post like that so it's different and very odd as he's only said it now in a game where he's guilty of spamming himself. | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:53 justanothertownie wrote: Palmar is spamming? I don't think so. And his request is reasonable. Do you think it makes him scum? Spam as in contentless posts. When he posted that all he had said was holyflare is 100% mafia (in which case why would he make the post asking me not to spam?) and useless afking. So it should have been suspicious to a lot of people. Really though i just wanted cav to expand on his reasoning for things because i like when people give reasons. (palmars read post turned me around on him) | ||
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On July 30 2014 07:26 Holyflare wrote: MY STATS ARE SAFE Vivax confirmed embodiment of koshi day 1 (though maybe not alignment wise) | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:35 kushm4sta wrote: hf it's quite scummy how much a dick you are being to vivax for really no reason. Explain this because all I've said in the past 2 pages about vivax is that i agreed with his reasoning and asked why he's delurking to try and stop people discussing the game with me. Is that not correct? Are we reading different games? | ||
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Me: vivax sxum x, y, z Vivax: how scummy? Me: why not just refute what i said instead! Vivax: no cz YOU mafia (here it is anyway) Me: ok that's cool i get why you did it now carry on! Vivax: no you scum! Me: so obi whats happening? Vivax: dont reply obi hes mafia! Me: why you doijg this i said it's over and i wasn't going to argue? There's other stuff! Vivax: no you mafia! I wrote a post saying you were mafia but wont reveal it till maximum possible effect! Sorry u mafia! Don't wanna argue anymore! | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:48 kushm4sta wrote: i think marv was wise to ignore hf vs vivax I'm trying to do the same | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:26 kushm4sta wrote: palmar why is jat town? not trying to get a read on you palmar just curious abvout jat because he was looking sorta scummy to me. All he's done is say that obi is confident which = town (extrapolating on my part) and then say that this confidence if continued is probably forced. That's really it and a very odd sentiment to come into the thread with (when cav hadn't really done much more since then) | ||
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So really there is no specific name to give. | ||
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It's worse than bh rng :s | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:21 justanothertownie wrote: Don't you think that if someone feels the need to say he is the towniest town ever and will decide the lynch in almost every post he makes it looks like he is overcompensating? Maybe he is town who knows at this point but even if he is I have trouble buying this level of confidence. And since I think he knows that we won't all blindly follow him it really serves no purpose apart from getting people to townread him. Anyways... What is this paragraph even supposed to say? Explain please. Did you read world cup though x_x? A game where cav was actually mafia and was pretty... I dunno.. Blendy/scared. | ||
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Also bat if you duel straight away and claim cop i would still lynch you because that's how silly it is. | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:35 slOosh wrote: Maybe he is high off vigging scum from Titanic. Who knows. Anyhows at this point I'm still feel goods about Palmar's list for reasons I mentioned earlier. Anyone feel not so good about anyone who has posted thus far? I'd like damd to talk more about things he read than just obi and setup seeing as he's caught up and vivax is tbd. Other than that (marv till he posts logic) not really anyone else worries me (ritoky maybe). | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't know. For some reason I always feel like I can try to talk some sense into you, but you always shove your head up your ass instead. Whatever. Less rude more alignment info gathering. | ||
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First name on the player list that hasn't posted yet. | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:56 sinani206 wrote: I'm in the thread. I'm playing mafia The alignment? | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Food break. Cava supertown Vivax seems scummy Sloosh town Holyflare likely town kush might be town justanothertownie could be mafia Palmar's reads are terrible kush very likely town Sloosh is supertown Sloosh you're dumb Palmar's list is meaningless and dumb Like wut..? Is this list made from page to page you just repeat the same names with different things. Also implying that you've done something worthy of having a food break for. | ||
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Why does it feel like we're playing in different games? You even just agreed with what i said and our discussion has led to people being town read. Hardly bad in any sense. | ||
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I wouldn't even care if you pointed out specifically where your scum reads did something scummy and asked them to explain it but you're stuck in one track mind and are guilty of what you were accusing me of. Chainsaw defending I've never seen as scummy in anything ever and everyone always uses it. It's useless. There's no sense of hmm maybe I'm wrong how do i correct that. What should be my plan to change that going forward? I have this read on hf that I'll use (well done for saying it out to the thread that isn't odd in the slightest) I'll see how it pans out. You're just stuck following posts in regards to sloosh/me that make no sense and you're saying very strange things. "this guy is questioning obvious town oh no so scum!". It's slightly strange that you seem so definitive on people when you really shouldn't be (very strange) | ||
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Jat, palmar, sloosh, obi probably bat being yolo towny (maybe forgetting someone prob not) If you don't have those ppl as town you're probably mafia (tempted to throw damd in because everyone and their mother is calling him town when he doesn't even look close to it) | ||
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On July 31 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar is not "definitely town". batsnacks decided to be annoying and should die because of it regardless of his alignment because i hate him for shooting me in the last game. also his behaviour makes no sense. sloosh, cava, jat town - agreed. Why are you not town reading palmar? His list wasn't awful - bar vivax but more importantly did you answer jat about why you made a terrible list post criticising palmar? | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:01 goodkarma wrote: I'd bomb batsnacks or Damdred. Batsnack's scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this. He's done literally nothing useful all game. Damdred hasn't contributed much of anything, and is super-wishy washy with what reads he does give. Most of the lurkers at this point have become or promised to be more active, so I'd be inclined to give them a chance. Fuba doesn't count as he's looking like he's getting modkilled. Why is that different from you? | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:07 Vivax wrote: I won't talk to you or HF any more. From now on I'm talking to everyone else in my efforts to get you lynched. Stuff like this coming out of your mouth but then you follow it up with countless more accusations towards us and expect not to have more discussion. Also scum reading 3 active people when there's like 11 inactives is just lol | ||
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On July 31 2014 02:51 Holyflare wrote: Why do people have wildly different reads on the people i think are town? Jat, palmar, sloosh, obi probably bat being yolo towny (maybe forgetting someone prob not) If you don't have those ppl as town you're probably mafia (tempted to throw damd in because everyone and their mother is calling him town when he doesn't even look close to it) Gonna go do a ww spend run so wont be around. If i die follow that ^^ probably take away palmar because hes saying he likes vivax when nobody else is | ||
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On July 31 2014 06:01 justanothertownie wrote: That's what I thought too. But it is fine he generated a healthy amount of discussion. yes i agree but it's annoying after what he pulled in order | ||
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On July 31 2014 06:06 ritoky wrote: would you like to test that theory first hand? yes please do it so i can berate you post game for being retarded | ||
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On July 31 2014 06:14 ritoky wrote: your carrot dangle is quite intense, i am tempted. what do you think of marv? i have only played with him once i believe and he was so town that i had to shower after every post; not even close this game. thoughts? i've already posted what i think of marv here which is interesting that you wouldn't bother to read the person you want to bomb beforehand ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS DIRECTLY AFTER THE POST YOU PUT ME IN YOUR BOMB TARGETS FOR: On July 31 2014 03:32 Holyflare wrote: If marv uses the excuse "i didn't want to die n0" should prob lynch him too. He's evolved scum play to actually call ppl mafia now so couple that excuse with if he leads good lynch targets etc. He said he's evolved to always lynch mafia when he's sure so hold him to that | ||
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On July 31 2014 06:37 batsnacks wrote: And I don't really feel like going back and finding that HolyFlare post where he said some thing I did last game was retarded but, in response to that, it's not retarded if it works. And it worked. I hope I catch you bitching after this game too about people insulting each other on the internet. "i dont know what holy was referring to but it must have been retarded" ???????? | ||
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