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On September 13 2014 06:30 Blazinghand wrote: UPDATE: I've removed 3p, and we're starting in 24 hours at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) with however many players we have signed up at that point. I hope you're ready for awesomeness! Signups will remain open until 1 hour before the start of the game. just wait till full :/ | ||
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just gonna write long posts because of no time instead of being spammy this game don't lynch me | ||
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/discuss while i afk in confirmed town glory till tomorrow night | ||
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On September 15 2014 15:48 Chairman Ray wrote: I wouldn't mind lynching Fecalfeast, totally getting the mafia vibes from him. Holyflare's Wandering civilian claim is interesting. There is no mafia tracker in this game, so there's no point faking the claim as town role. Which means he's either Wandering civilian, or mafia role. Wouldn't be a bad cop check, hoping that we do have a cop and mafia doesn't have a framer. On September 15 2014 15:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Heck with it I'd be up for lynching Holyflare too. On September 15 2014 16:41 Chairman Ray wrote: I'll accept that for now. ##Vote: Holyflare Would also lynch | ||
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This quote quite clearly outlines my suspicion of him? I just fleshed it out from that. | ||
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On September 16 2014 01:50 IAmRobik wrote: HF. Who are you trying to visit tonight? Like, not the person, but are you hoping to visit someone with no night actions or someone with night actions? You should reread the op instead of trying to get action information out of people. | ||
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On September 16 2014 02:24 IAmRobik wrote: So why did he say that's not the case?!?!? He literally told me to read his posts if I think that he's voting me for not having content. I read his posts, and the only reason I saw him voting me was cause of a lack of content. THE LIES! I read it as him saying I don't think you're scum i'm just voting you until you produce content? | ||
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On September 16 2014 02:27 IAmRobik wrote: I'm on this VE tip. When my hardon wears off, I might read it. HF, what do you think of VE's wishy washy stance on Plammmmmar, where he's already trying to steer clear of responsibility for plammmmmar flipping town On September 16 2014 01:26 IAmRobik wrote: ##unvote ##vote: plammmmmmmmmmmar ???? | ||
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On September 16 2014 05:00 Chairman Ray wrote: I don't feel Palmer is that scummy. I get the whole policy lynch contradiction, but Palmer policy lynches so hard and he's aware of it. He even policy lynched me last game. He's not gonna post such a blatant inconsistency as mafia. Everyone completely missed this post which shows no semblance of reading the thread whatsoever. | ||
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Make him push a case :p | ||
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On September 16 2014 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Why is everyone ignoring this guy? Also valid. 100x more tactile than he was in cell (town) | ||
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On September 16 2014 04:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Robik. Most of your filter is you calling yourself town/defending yourself or yelling at people who call you scum -_- Why not you know? analyze people and do something productive aside from yelling. I SERIOUSLY want to lynch you purely on your behavior but realize its one of the worst reasons to off someone. So try harder before I just say fuck it your scum and lynch you. also not sure about bc because this return post echoed what a lot of people had said a long time ago and to be fair to robik he had actually started raising extra points about VE etc so this was not really valid anymore (just like the CR return too) | ||
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the mafia clown | ||
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On September 16 2014 08:14 yamato77 wrote: I don't like Holyflare ok | ||
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##vote batsnacks Done absolutely nothing but has 2 pages of filter but the nothing is completely different nothing to cell. Poofter doesn't even meet activity requirements. | ||
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Most definite lynch today is geript. Marv said something about rayns meta at the start (he angry pushes (or koshi said that?) which he only did all game. Geript claimed pgo for.....? No reason??? Apparently to make the pgo claim and so he wouldn't get a gun despite saying almost every game that his reads are so good and he wishes he was vig more often. There was also something someone pointed out about him lying about reading rayn and then him saying that he did actually read rayn. There's no way he just skips to reads like he's claiming. He also stopped playing because he thought he would get shot?????????? Like what bull shit. He unclaims pgo despite wanting the pgo to claim and then everyone scum reads him WHY would he get shot ever?? Like the biggest load of crap for not playing. I also don't like ray. He's doing really weird accusations and trying to push the scummiest stuff (pushing me for lurking despite being only greenyblue claim which actually some other are doing too which is flat out retarded/scummy) Palmar probably should die too. Ridiculous. Marv wanted him dead so badly yesterday and marv has good reads on palmar. (i.e. Heavyweight where he lynched him day 1). You could argue that rayn doesn't bus but that would mean 1 of palmar or geript isn't mafia and i honestly don't know which (lord tolkien called palmar town which is really really odd btw) | ||
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On September 19 2014 02:43 Hopeless1der wrote: well then you know that we're waiting for that burst of knowledge from you. dont keep us in suspense HF. I don't really have a burst of knowledge other than what I said previously about palmar/geript (palmars latest contribution is nothing like he promised) in fact its quite poop. On September 17 2014 18:55 Palmar wrote: Also, I like this night. I am safe. The only people who can kill me now are mafia, and there's literally no way they're smart enough to realize how badly I will wreck them tomorrow. It's like a nice safety blanket that stops town from being awful. his follow up to this is really really weak "I think batsnacks is town... for some reason". "I think obi is a good lynch... but I need to read". His stances on people are happening before he's seemingly even read the actual game and then there's continual promises of stepping up and playing and re-reading and doing cases tonight and tonight is running out already. also random tidbit + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2014 06:44 Palmar wrote: Also CR I'm not mafia, why would you say I'm mafia? That's stupid. On September 16 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote: We must make your post retroactively true. I am mafia. at least he's confirmed stupid | ||
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so like..... palmar wtf are you doing? or was rayn mad because he actually bussed for once and nobody listened to him still | ||
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On September 19 2014 03:34 IAmRobik wrote: He didn't really have a longish filter. His filter was like 7 pages d1 and then he spammed 1.2.3.4.5 etcetc until he reached 10 pgs 7 pages is long -.- | ||
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On September 19 2014 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I want to know why Palmar thinks I'm a good lynch. He just said that I was and he hasn't backed it up with anything at all. | ||
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On September 19 2014 04:29 IAmRobik wrote: I haven't seen anything that bright since I looked in the mirror this morning. yes well parrots do have the IQ of three year olds | ||
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On September 19 2014 04:43 Chairman Ray wrote: you guys are probably right then. I don't see how it's suspicious though. I played one game where rayn was mafia, so I'm basing my read off that. If I played more with scum rayn, I would have more to go off of. right so you're using your one game meta read to supersede people's million games meta, why was that?? | ||
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On September 19 2014 06:14 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't even know what I think anymore. Can someone more experienced look at Yamato's filter and tell me why I am so irked? It's like he saw the vulnerability of geript's misplay and is using it to coast through D2. 3/5 of his last posts are variations of "We should lynch geript." with nothing else. it should be obvious to more experienced people but the mafia team is obviously full of inexperienced people | ||
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and he scum read koshi and ve (well not really ve but wrote a bit on ve being scummytowny) and then they both got nk'd so unless he's doing some super awesome wifom play or mafia has someone leading them then I think he should be up to townyish list for now | ||
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On September 19 2014 06:36 justanothertownie wrote: Why do you think so? I mean the second part of the post. because they killed 2 of the towniest people in the game when there are chances for multiple medics and i'm not going to discuss the rest of why but it just very most likely is | ||
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are you going to do anything today? you only said me and palmar were the best lynches today which was totally unqualified seeing as i'm pretty much confirmed town and geript is pretty much super mafia which makes palmar more and more likely town | ||
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On September 19 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote: I'm not feeling good today. What do you think I should do? explain your reads and why you are not voting geript | ||
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A lot of the reason I am voting Palmar now is because he told us to vote for him today. I am prepared to switch to geript if/when my vote is needed. Right now I feel like it's doing more on Palmar. I'm not sure how serious you are here and if it's missing a /s or not but what good is your vote actually doing??? Not only is palmar doing absolutely nothing right now which means your vote isn't doing anything but you admit that really you're just going to switch to geript at the end of the day anyway? Someone you've said nothing about and in fact expressed that you want to lynch palmar and not geript and have said nothing about how rayn and palmar interacted and what that might mean for their alignments. You haven't really talked about anything. | ||
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On September 19 2014 07:29 batsnacks wrote: You wasted your vote, and you voted me for reasons that are, at best, stupid. you did absolutely nothing for the first 2 pages of your filter, it wasn't just that you were different from cell or most of your town games (which was a big reason) but you were literally not playing the game and instead doing absolutely nothing while posting i think my vote was a good one | ||
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4) GlowingBear 5) Superbia 6) StorrZerg 7) Batsnacks 9) ObiWanShinobi 11) Chairman Ray 16) FecalFeast | ||
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"palmar is scum because he said he was mafia" ^ summation of your entire filter | ||
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On September 19 2014 09:07 Fecalfeast wrote: Why you gotta hurt my feelings like this? I am glad I'm not the only one thinking Storrzerg looks fishy though. He hasn't been saying much about geript at all which, in the event we lynch geript and he flips mafia, could look bad. Especially if he hops on the bandwagon near deadline. Regarding the people saying I am not new: + Show Spoiler + I understand the reads that I am scummy based on the fact that everyone thinks I am pretending to be new to forum mafia so I am not too upset about that. After re-reading some stuff I think it is in my best interest to say again that this is my first game of forum mafia. I have played the arcade version in SC2 and played werewolf in real life but establishing how to tell alignments on here was hard. My early posts, aside from my stupid D1 jokes, lacked real direction because of my inability to read anyone properly. it's only because i haven't read your filter quite possibly at all and you haven't particularly looked super towny either | ||
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On September 19 2014 08:55 batsnacks wrote: "im busy sry" ^ summation of your entire filter yes well i'm not the one under accusation here you just said that your filter has scum hunting in it when really there is none at all | ||
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I tried explaining why I think Palmar is mafia. I think you're mafia because of your vote on me late yesterday; you said I'm scummy because I'm playing differently from Cell when I was mod-warned for how I played in Cell. is this a terrible excuse then? | ||
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Not really understanding why I've been questioned on alignment or even ever voted on when i literally claimed my exact role in the first post i made | ||
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This guy must be lynched | ||
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I predict the format will be started with how I am likely to be scum because of (insert random reason that doesn't make me scum here) and then it will end with likely a plea to look into me or push me for vote. I predict that in this reality geript will continue to be lynched | ||
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On September 19 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote: Makes no sense. Scum would not shoot a PGO because they would have to rb AND shoot him. Eh yeh i didn't really think that through properly but just knowing who the pgo is is enough of a scum motivation | ||
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On September 18 2014 01:59 geript wrote: So I figured if I claim PGO the real PGO would claim or people would never give me a gun. Sue me. I have reading to catch up on. You're so full of shit it hurts geript | ||
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On September 19 2014 11:31 geript wrote: Perhaps if you had actually read my filter... but then again you don't do that as mafia. I just quoted direct evidence of what you wrote. You also contradicted yourself several times of the reason WHY you claimed pgo. First it was to make the real pgo claim like i quoted. Then when asked again it was to get people off your back for a day or two and finally it was to soak a night kill. You've also talked about palmar to death in your posts about how you wanted to lynch him and how marv was correct on him and then completely ditched that when a palmar wagon isn't happening at the moment despite palmars activity today A) not being anything like he stated last night (wrecking mafia) B) full of empty promises to reread and posts cases this first half of the day and then not C) having reads that aren't even reads but are instead random declarations You have no real conviction or any kind of progress to these reads. Your superbia thing pretty much came out of nowhere and coupled with what rayn did (that you say makes him town but everyone else says differently) makes you very likely mafia. Hell you even said you read rayns filter first but magically "skipped" him talking about pgo and claimed it anyway. Then you said you had no will to play. I read. | ||
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On September 19 2014 12:07 justanothertownie wrote: I saw all that. But I am willing to give geript some time to produce something if he is town. He had enough pressure for now. You better not be heavyweight jat. You gotta make a case on someone at some point. | ||
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On September 20 2014 03:12 geript wrote: @Palmer. Would you take a serious look at HF for me? The thing that really stuck out to me is how focused he's been since coming back. The thing I've noticed from the last game (where he was scum) with me is that when he's mafia he tends to solely focus on one lynch at a time. He looks to secure lynches over evaluating lynches. It doesn't even matter whether it's a favorable or unfavorable lynch for him. He just has some need to actually look like he's pushing a lynch. Could you evaluate that aspect. I've been in this thread for half a cycle and have 6 pages of information on not one lynch's worth of players. Stop pushing your shitty scummy agenda. | ||
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On September 19 2014 06:38 Holyflare wrote: and jat the LT thing was just a silly effort to newness ratio (disregarding if the content was awful), it's a weak read I guess but it's enough that I'm not really wary of any scummy agenda that he's pushing and he scum read koshi and ve (well not really ve but wrote a bit on ve being scummytowny) and then they both got nk'd so unless he's doing some super awesome wifom play or mafia has someone leading them then I think he should be up to townyish list for now On September 19 2014 06:39 Holyflare wrote: because they killed 2 of the towniest people in the game when there are chances for multiple medics and i'm not going to discuss the rest of why but it just very most likely is this is why LT is most likely town, scum killed 2 prominent towny looking people, they most definitely do not have someone experienced leading them because those kills are retarded with 2 potential medic roles in the game so that means that the team is pretty much comprised of low level players if LT is mafia he set up the most elaborate plan to scum read VE and koshi and then NK them just so he could look towny but then never even use it in his defence? I don't think so I think storr is an excellent lynch for trying to get this guy lynched | ||
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On September 20 2014 03:19 Lord Tolkien wrote: Uh. I dont recall calling VE scummy. Just that he likes to feed Robik. Which is somewhat antitown d1 I guess but uh. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466211-tl-mafia-lxviii-fanfic-crossover-edition?page=124#2464 I'm referring to this post where you call him scummy or useless town? | ||
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IAmRobik (1): geript these people are being useless | ||
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On September 20 2014 04:27 yamato77 wrote: Holy, talk to me about Palmar and geript. I think I solved their alignments. Palmar being scum would heavily spew geript town IMO because of how Palmar has played his stances on the leading wagons. Yes or no? They've both played bad so i don't know but i want geript to explain how he scum read palmar at night and agreed with marv that palmar was scum but then day 3 that magically disappeared and he town reads him instead despite palmars day 2 being atrocious | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:08 justanothertownie wrote: He modkilled VT marv. Your point is invalid. That's what he's saying..? | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:09 Fecalfeast wrote: so do I change my vote in the voting thread? No | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:13 Fecalfeast wrote: Wow why would they replace a town twice though? Will we be at that much disadvatage if we lose 1 more town player? This could actually be correct | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:20 Holyflare wrote: It doesn't effect anything tomorrow it's still like mylo if he got modkilled and was town but if mafia got modkilled then they need like 2 extra mislynches or something especially if mafia gets lynched today then it's like a million more By far the most likely explanation | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote: I'M REALLY UPSET Why are you SO upset? | ||
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On September 19 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote: 1) Palmar OR 17) raynpelikoneet replaced by Geript replaced by ritoky 4) GlowingBear 5) Superbia 6) StorrZerg 7) Batsnacks 9) ObiWanShinobi 11) Chairman Ray 16) FecalFeast I'm still quite possibly thinking this | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote: Probably those in his list. Get your vote off ritoky. don't you agree with what i said about the modkill? | ||
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Storrzerg (1): Fecalfeast Not voting (2): BloodyC0bbler, Damdred what the fuck are these people doing | ||
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the fact that you should be voting ritoky because that slot has an above average chance at being mafia....? | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:58 Hopeless1der wrote: also, BC is getting modkilled at this rate. damdred needs to drop a vote too. Fuck it lets go for broke, kill off LT or Storr or some shit. can we get enough people for that? and i'm most definitely not killing LT i dunno how many times i have to explain that read | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:05 Superbia wrote: We need to start another wagon. I'm up for a wagon on BC / storr / Robik / batsnacks. Any of these four are fine to me. You know my preference. no......? | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:07 Superbia wrote: You want to have a single wagon? What information do we get when he flips? we only JUST have 11 votes and everyone is afk, how on earth can we start a second wagon? | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote: Okay so nobody's with me on storr I will swap to palmar if that's the only viable lynch but we have time. we can get storr tomorrow | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:15 Palmar wrote: What are two town flips going to help you with? if that ends up being the case then we'd have a shit tonne of information from people that randomly defended both of you based on shit reasons | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:22 Superbia wrote: And what if he votes last moment? What then HF? Will you scumread him? yes | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:23 Palmar wrote: I don't understand why people think my alignment has anything to do with geript's? because we've never seen rayn hard bus anyone as mafia but your alignment isn't linked if he's town | ||
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how can you argue the point that you dont want to lynch palmar because he could be town but then not want to no lynch??? | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:28 IAmRobik wrote: Because it's better to get 2 lynches today and 1 tomorrow than to only have 2 total lynches of the same people that we might end up lynching tomorrow. We lose a lynch in effect. bc is getting fucking modkilled and judging from marv/ve/yamato he's town so you potentially want to add more to that instead of just waiting a lynch??!? | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote: OK, We lynch geript. He flips town. Mafia kills 2 people. Then we lynch Palmar the next day because people still have a question about his alignment, he flips town. Mafia gets 2 more kills We lynch geript and palmar today, they both flips town. Mafia gets 2 kills. We get to do something else tomorrow and give mafia 2 less kills. is that a good enough explanation? no because i might not lynch palmar tomorrow | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:39 Superbia wrote: If leading a crusade against me means you're actually going to start doing something, then by all means. hahahahaha im not going to lynch you for this | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:51 Palmar wrote: All these people who read my scummy are bad or scum i dont think you're actually scummy anymore tbh but nobody has the balls to unvote with me | ||
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On September 20 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote: Nobody is that dumb. I outlined the reasons why its bad to do so. you are retarded, if i don't think he's scummy anymore then it's not dumb to not kill a towny is it | ||
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On September 20 2014 07:04 Tehpoofter wrote: Thanks for helping Palmar get lynched (this is not sarcasm) Jat thanks as well. Some others I may be forgetting. oh fuck off | ||
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On September 20 2014 12:48 Superbia wrote: Incorrect, we are technically already in mylo. Threshold is 9 town vs 5 scum, anything below that is win for scum (excluding night saves). What...? We can still play until it's 6v5 | ||
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gb has these really weird interactions with people and his scum reads/way of sheeping seems really really really weird it's always like me: This is why x is scummy! gb: he's not scummy! me: this is why he's scummy (reason z,y,a) gb: he's scummy now omg i totally didn't see that even though i'm apparently reading the thread! storr is just... pushing the scummiest things i've seen in a while. He wants to lynch LT who i gave more than ample reasons for being town but his initial reason for voting LT was just asking weird questions and now it's evolved into more about just skating by and generic crap but the scummiest bit is that he's disproportionately aggressive in pushing him compared to the "cases" he's been making on LT | ||
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and obi had that really weird read on JAT being 100% not heavyweight jat so i'd probably bung him in some kind of bad list coupled with the fact that he hasn't really done anything this game at all but has a lengthyish filter | ||
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On September 21 2014 00:20 GlowingBear wrote: I haven't realised his motives for unclaiming, I think I've skipped that post. As I've already said here and in finished games, I'm working a lot during the week, specially at Mondays and Wednesdays. These are days where I have a 5 hour class after work. Impossible to keep good track of the thread. I was scumreading him for his claim at night. I found it pretty scummy. I questioned everyone because I think mafia could be on an easy target and just repeating what people said "lol he is mafia because he claimed and unclaimed". I would put them in a hard situation if I asked "and why does that makes him scum?". They would have to fabricate a read and that's what I was after. But then you've brought his motives and it convinced me he was scum. So what you're saying is you scum read someone for his claim but read absolutely nothing to do with his claim or why he did it???? | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:06 yamato77 wrote: So Holyflare, what if I told you that you are mafia rolecop? I'd say you're bad? | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:26 Tehpoofter wrote: Why is he dumb and not scum? Like thats the weird part. because i've had a blue read on him since night 1 which i've indicated about 5 times | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:28 yamato77 wrote: So you just happened to visit JAT N1, the night two other top town die, and the night before he is shot as a blue role? so you're telling me not only did i do something retarded by killing 2 people that are likely medic saves but that i also then further shot the next top town the night after??? | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:29 yamato77 wrote: Any time an experienced player says this, you lynch them. So first of all you say i'm mafia because you get roleblocked and then you say that i'm mafia because i have a blue read on you? Are you just flinging whatever you can on me? | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: Also HF, I think that's a 4.6% chance of you visiting JAT N1 so it's a pretty damning catch... what on earth are you talking about, who cares who i visited on n1 if they didn't die and he was one of the top town?? | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:33 Lord Tolkien wrote: It would be pretty coincidental if you visited a blue role town N1 and they got shot N2. it would be pretty coincidental if jat was playing like shit and wasn't someone that was likely to die and he randomly died out of the blue yes | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:34 yamato77 wrote: There is nothing in my filter that indicates I am a blue role. HF having a "blue read" on me is entirely bullshit. No. I thought you were initially a PGO because of the geript thing and how you were so adamant that he was mafia after he claimed it. Then I became more aware that you probably weren't after geript flipped town and noticed comments like "i want to believe that you're town but bla bla bla." Coupled with the fact that you aren't playing your usual giving out read self and are sitting back and throwing out basic things instead I thought it was very likely you were blue or mafia but your comments seemed pretty genuine about BC and palmar etc. | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:36 yamato77 wrote: Notice HF isn't taking the coincidental explanation. He is arguing out of guilt simply to make me look bad. Lol. i'm not calling you mafia | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:35 Lord Tolkien wrote: As opposed to simply killing the masons so town has no confirmed town left? i think you're playing in a different game because it's not mylo so why would they need to do that when the 2 masons aren't even playing | ||
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On September 19 2014 06:32 Holyflare wrote: it should be obvious to more experienced people but the mafia team is obviously full of inexperienced people On September 19 2014 06:32 Holyflare wrote: ^ obvious that yamato is most likely town dat proof tho | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote: So when you say people who are not jailers/medics should claim, is that just for useful roles? I am still thinking storrzerga and now holyflare for lynches today. I just got to work so a detailed post will have to wait sorry. absolutely nobody should have claimed today and you have had no input into this situation whatsoever, why should I die now? All that yamato has claimed is that I visited JAT on night 1. | ||
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mylo means that if we hit a town we lose which is not the case, if we mislynch today and kills go through then it is 7vs5 tomorrow and tomorrow would then become mylo | ||
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On September 21 2014 09:09 yamato77 wrote: Holyflare is 100% mafia. Before I claimed, he said "we probably only have a tracker and JK left" Trololol mafia so..........? | ||
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On September 21 2014 09:20 Fecalfeast wrote: So would there be any scum motivation to claim tracker and point fingers at HF? + Show Spoiler + Scarlett 1-1 against Polt in RBBG GO SCARLETT seeing as lots of people say it's mylo (it's not really) then yes but i don't think that is the case here | ||
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What convinces me is that if I were scum I would shoot both masons N2, esp. since Poofter's activity was picking up again end of D2, as it would removed our two effectively confirmed town. JAT, townie as he may have been, was NOT confirmed town. so what would you save as jailkeeper and then why would you not dodge that as mafia and shoot someone who was pretty towny?? This is full of so much wifom and is a literal waste of your time because i just explained that a tracker is the likeliest role in a wanderer setup and lo and behold someone claims tracker. | ||
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a) it's a 5.2% chance b) jat is the 8th towny to die or something and he's pretty good at looking towny so he was very very likely to be saved and the 2 events are not related in any shape or form c) there are also 4 nk's i could have been rng'd onto that would have made me look 10x worse so the odds aren't ever really in my favour | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466211-tl-mafia-lxviii-fanfic-crossover-edition?user=Holyflare&page=10 this page outlines what I want to do today | ||
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"you on jat n1 you mafia" "you knew i was blue that's why im rb! " "only mafia say they know i was blue you mafia!" "you reply like you're guilty you're mafia!" "only mafia would wifom right now!" Despite you only being rb'd by a jk and jat being a relatively high up towny looking person and despite me fully explaining why i thought you were blue and despite you not being dead. How would you think a towny would respond because what you're doing is bad and much like what you did with geript. | ||
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On September 21 2014 02:08 Holyflare wrote: So what you're saying is you scum read someone for his claim but read absolutely nothing to do with his claim or why he did it???? respond to this gb | ||
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On September 21 2014 22:22 GlowingBear wrote: No, I say I scumread someone who claims at night, specially PGO, and that I have skipped one of his posts. I clearly said I have skipped his motives to UNCLAIM. that's precisely my point!?!?!? you scum read someone for their CLAIM but then you dont even check why they UNCLAIMED but you still continued to scum read them despite that and even after that you NEVER checked the filter of your scum read to make sure of anything at all and you most definitely definitely definitely saw that he unclaimed because multiple people had been saying it | ||
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Killing me would be a great mistake because then you literally have to rely on saves. Seeing as your town list pretty much is the same as mine then your scum list must also be the same in which case you are pushing that not only am I mafia but I have completely disregarded my entire team by pushing EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? In what world would I ever do something so stupid as that. | ||
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On September 22 2014 01:09 Superbia wrote: Well you're on the other side of the spectrum right now, and I'm inclined to believe yamato's claim. You believe it too, right? I'm pretty sure that yamato will look at other worlds and re-evaluate if necessary. If you keep being (pro)active today and you're town, I'm quite certain you'll be townread by EoD. No i'm not on the other side of the spectrum it's just exactly what he did with geript and never re-evaluated the entire day despite lots of stuff happening and he was afk for most of it and only returned to interject with stuff like he's saying here again today. That doesn't mean I think he's mafia it just means he's lazy and very obtuse with his opinions. | ||
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On September 22 2014 03:08 Hopeless1der wrote: +1. Also dropped my vote on HF. See you tomorrow. "also" why have you had no input today and why are you content to just throw away the game like this!? what the fuck | ||
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off the top of my head you aren't scum reading batsnacks even though he did an equally summarised post of koshis post day 1 with %'s and stuff so what was different about this one? Also, it is incredibly weird that you keep trying to get people to mass claim where there is very very likely only a jailkeeper left and if the jailkeeper dies we pretty much lose outright. Not to mention that you've completely ignored every target that I've called scummy On September 21 2014 13:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Storr is a ghost and GB is someone I haven't really been interested in for a really long time. So I don't really care about either of them. I have my lynch target. This is the player I'm focused on. I don't care about anyone else provided I can get them to vote with me. 2 people that are primary lynch candidates today and you won't even read them at all? GB has been in a lot of dead towns lynch lists but you don't think it's apt to check over him but instead go for LT?? Not to mention ignoring my analysis of mafia team experience on him. I've seen the lists from everyone of who they think is mafia and none of them contain experienced people so what I said about LT scum reading VE and koshi and then killing them is even more apparent now. | ||
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On September 22 2014 05:39 Damdred wrote: Bad day since work little time I'll post more soon but, was anyone else rbd? If it was just Yamato the jk got him I think this is more than established already. | ||
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On September 22 2014 06:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: I just moved you to scumlist. HF elf. Huh..? | ||
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On September 22 2014 16:24 yamato77 wrote: lots of reasons This is pathetic | ||
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On September 22 2014 05:19 Lord Tolkien wrote: Alright, seriously. Fk all y'all. None of you are trying with the exception of HolyFlare at this point, and this is frustrating. Too many people this game are acting like New Zealand sheep in Wales. Confirmed Town TehPoofter: confirmed mason, also confirmed useless. What on earth did you and Haru even talk about. <_<; LordTolkien: 100% town. I can confirm. Also, I've been trying to ping out players everywhere and trying to find ALTERNATE lynch candidates. Townpile HolyFlare: Fuck, I really wanted to believe yamato but...too many things don't add up, and I'm very much not going to bank MYLO on an unconfirmed, iffy tracker claim that only tracks him for N1. The possibility that yamato is scum or that this is all too big a coincidence concerns me. And quite frankly, he appears to be the only one putting any goddamned effort into this game, so why the FK are we lynching one of the most active fking players this game who is at least posting reads and thoughts instead of "tunnel onto one guy herpaderp" shit some of you like doing, I'm not lynching him until yamato dies and flips blue. I WILL NOT LYNCH UNTIL THEN. FecalFeast: Actually posts and tries to solve the damn game, and asks the right questions. If you're scum, GJ playing the confused newbie card. Elfscum pile GlowingBear: fk you, passive and lurker isnt your town meta either. StorrZerg: Trying to get confirmed town lynched. Been more useless this game than I have been (and doesn't match up with my experience of him in Live Mafia). Hasn't looked for fucking mafia elsewhere. Like seriously, there are 5 elves in this game, you can afford to TRY and find others. So I'm one of your elf reads. COOLIO. WHERE ARE THE OTHERS? Obi-Wan: Trying to get confirmed town lynched, hasn't done jack all game. Same as above. Trying to get HF lynched too. Trying to get a mass-fking claim. Hopeless1der: stops by, drops vote on HF, leaves. Does nothing else. fk these guys really ShiaoPi: complains about game, is a serious part of the problem. I reviewed his filter from previous games and it's still consistent in being very slim but srsly, you don't get to complain if you haven't tried to push ONE FKING THING. ChairmanRay: Hasn't even posted today. Less useful than a potato (though tbf, potatoes are quite useful). Might even be modkilled at this point. Reconsidering my town read on him greatly. Robik: He's Robik, nothing else to say here. Also his no-posts D3. Superbia: LELELEL, I'LL JUST COME IN LAST MINUTE AND DECLARE ALL LYNCH/MODKILL TARGETS D2 ARE TOWN. YEAH, THAT'LL SHOW US. Undecided Yamato: There's a couple questions that remains unanswered, and quite frankly I don't know if I should trust you atm. At this point I can readily see you as pushing a scum agenda. See above. Everyone else: + Show Spoiler + Either I see a noticeable improvement in activity before day ends or I'm requesting a fking modkill, because I'm fking tired of trying to put all this time and effort into this toxic as-fk game; trying to sneak in as much time at work as possible, and staying up late every damn night to try and solve the game. Good day. Wave, I know you're reading this so: I'm probably not going to let you wrangle me into another mafia game after this, even if you didn't ditch on me ( ). Depends on muh mood. @ BH: ty for hosting, but there's nothing you can do for these players. this is like a quality rage post from someone disgruntled that nobody is playing the game when it's the last day and arguably the most important day so why are obi and storr still pushing this guy!? also robik hasn't done anything for like 3 cycles | ||
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On September 22 2014 22:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm 100% on the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about. You're so full of shit. I asked you to look at gb and storr who quite frankly 3/4 of the game think are quite scummy and you meaninglessly say that storr is a ghost and gb isn't worth reading. Then you come out with this new target LT who I've given ample reason for being town and his frustration seems real based on that long post and yoi further criticise him for not reading mafia targets when that's literally the thing you are the most guilty of. You have no idea wtf is going on in this game and everything you are pushing (the me bandwagoning based on you being useless) and then LT pushing based on crap stuff in comparison to everything else is incredibly scummy. You don't even respond to things but instead just push your own posts and ignore everything else which when we're in mylo is the scummiest thing you can possibly do. | ||
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On September 21 2014 13:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Storr is a ghost and GB is someone I haven't really been interested in for a really long time. So I don't really care about either of them. I have my lynch target. This is the player I'm focused on. I don't care about anyone else provided I can get them to vote with me. On September 22 2014 09:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Because Holyflare made a really, really scummy post defending LT. LT's analysis is also really, really bad. It's awfully convenient that he thinks I'm mafia for pushing Holyflare, especially if we don't get any saves tonight. What happens if I'm town? What happens if we're both town? His "analysis" basically means that he doesn't have to think one step ahead since I'm pushing his townread, especially since he doesn't bother looking at the reasons for why I want to kill Holyflare. (Also, I had to go to work. Cool your jets.) | ||
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On September 22 2014 04:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Actually, fuck that last post that he made. ##vote holyflare I can get behind this lynch. Heading off for reals now. Because Holyflare made a really, really scummy post defending LT. On September 22 2014 10:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why do you need me to have a team? More superficial reads that have nothing of value in them. In fact this only occurred when it was evident that 2 other people were voting me. You have said nothing about me whatsoever the entire time/maybe even game. You even so much as said that On September 22 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We're not lynching in Holyflare/Yamato because it's still entirely possible that nothing of real importance happened between them at all. Shiaopi, stop martyring for no reason and vote LT. but I made one post that had exact information on it based on ANALYSIS (something you haven't really done the entire game until mylo (scummy much?) about LT and you jump on that and completely change your tune from nothing between me and yamato to then suddenly being a super sure holyflare is scum that's easy read so not only are you pushing an un cc'd wanderer claim in a tracker game (something that's totally balanced for a tracker, you actually AGREED with my analysis so wtf) but you're pushing someone that I town read and have only stepped up activity at mylo. How about you flesh out all of these reads for once? Why about my LT post was exactly scummy. Why is LT's "analysis" post more scummy than say what batsnacks did in regards to koshi d1? or all these list posts that have come out but you haven't commented on all game | ||
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On September 16 2014 09:54 batsnacks wrote: Koshi is probably town. The ratio of scum to town in this game is .24. The absolute value of koshi's scum points awarded/town points awarded it is .62. So even though he has issued more town points than scum points, compared to the actual scum/town ratio the number of scum points he is issuing is high. However, marv is over 50% of koshi's total awarded town points. If you remove marv from the equation koshi has issued 1.75 times as many scum points as town points. And my conclusion is that he is townie. ^ more scummy because it's based on antoher players useless "analysis" posts On September 20 2014 06:49 GlowingBear wrote: We should be lunching other scumreads because we are definetely killing a townie. It's a 99% chance of killing a town agains 73% chance of killing a town. (Considering the probability of killing mafia randomly is 27%) ^ more useless statistical analysis that meant nothing + Show Spoiler + On September 22 2014 00:36 Superbia wrote: We need to get a big turn around today. I'm going to look between the yamato/HF today, I feel like there is only a small chance they're both town so I'm willing to take this risk at this point. Four worlds: - yamato77 is tracker, HF is scum - yamato77 is scum, HF is wanderer. I.e. scum going for the win. - yamato77 is tracker, HF is wanderer - low chance - yamato77 fakeclaims to reaction test HF, in which case you need to rescind ASAP so we can take the time to focus on someone else. I believe yamato in this case, and I'm willing to put my vote on HF unless something else comes up or poofter/banks (whichever his name is) comes up with something else. Let's look at some other people I really don't like right now (i.e. are likely scum): Fecalfeast: I really don't like how most of his posts read pretty reactive and having his newbieshield up (i.e. I don't understand x and apologizing for being new) at fucking random times. His whole d3 play feels like he's asking questions that can be answered by taking a little more than a second to think about, and just feels like it's appearing like he's doing something. Furthermore, HF has had no real interactions with him and conversely, Fecal says the following about HF: I can't explain it, but this post feels fucking weird to me, like kind of wishy-washy. I'd lynch him just for his posts today. ShiaoPi: I like Batsnacks' read on him. Collects some towncreds d2 and then disappears. Says we need to make shit happen d2 and then doesn't do anything to contribute further. What was the point? This guy is such a huge fucking question mark. Don't know if I want to risk a lynch on him today, since he's essentially lurking. Town (pretty much ride or die with most of these): Tehpoofter yamato77 IAmRobik Hopeless1der Damdred (leaning town) I currently don't have a strong enough opinion on anyone else to lynch them today. ^ superbia post which lists out all the different alternatives in regards to me but is useless because he tries to base it on probability instead i'm sure there's a 1000 more just like that but i cant be fucked to bother doing your job for you | ||
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On September 22 2014 23:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Because that post looked like you were spreading doubt rather than analyzing anything. You called like 5 people mafia at once without really addressing what LT had said, including me for some reason, so it really looked like you were just trying to divert attention. It really didn't look like analysis at all; it looked like you picking at a bunch of unimportant stuff and calling it "weird" rather than following up on it. Batsnacks' post regarding Koshi looked like "fun" filler, not the "I'm pretending to do something but I'm actually not" filler that LT posted. They simply don't look like the same thing and I hate LT's post way more. LT's post isn't a list post either. So...That's still wrong. It's like you're getting mad at me for changing my reads when things happen. lol, are you being totally serious. Where did my post spread any doubt about anything!?!??! THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT LOL i spent the whole entirety of the last night pushing all of my reads and you didn't comment on a single fucking thing when I was pushing the scummiest people in the game!!!!!!! You've completely fobbed them off!!!! On September 21 2014 13:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Storr is a ghost and GB is someone I haven't really been interested in for a really long time. So I don't really care about either of them. I have my lynch target. This is the player I'm focused on. I don't care about anyone else provided I can get them to vote with me. What useless shit is that. If anything I'm angry about people just sitting afk like they always do but especially now that it's mylo. I think you're scum because the only agenda you've pushed today is to ignore literally every piece of evidence on the the scummiest people and push my town read and a town player. | ||
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On September 22 2014 23:30 yamato77 wrote: If you are scum we probably lose anyway. If Robik is town that would be the perfect end to this game. Only good can come from this. why do you think he's mafia though | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote: I really don't think robik is mafia with 23 pages of filter and saying the most carefree bull shit ever. In order he had to skype me every 5 minutes to check that his posts weren't scummy and whether he should post or not. Coupled with his rb claim. I fully expect mafia robik to not drop the claim and once i started talking about mafia having a rb'er he dropped it as soon as he returned to minimise confusion. I know you might have massive robik is scum blinkers on but i really wouldn't lynch him ^ think this was pretty accurate but that was for the last day | ||
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On September 23 2014 00:32 StorrZerg wrote: Town yamato, tehpoofter, Leaning town robik, obi (liked his push on LT) , shiaoPi Leaning mafia, CR, HF, Superbia, Hopeless1der Mafia LT, I really am not buying this crap from LT about requesting a mod kill. If he is town and doing this just to prove a point, screw him. If he is mafia doing it just to fuck with people to avoid being a lynch, screw that. And no HF i am not buying this act. What does this mean? I know i have obi as town, for helping push LT. This is the worst reason to town read someone I've ever seen. You town read obi because he wants to push on a person whose alignment you don't even know?? Not to mention you neglect to comment on the fact that this is the first person that obi has pushed THE ENTIRE GAME and it's mylo, does that not irk you a little bit? Don't you think that's exactly what a mafia at mylo would want to do? I still do not understand your LT read because my read is solid and you, like obi, called it weird but nobody even decided to comment on why it doesn't make sense at all. | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:19 StorrZerg wrote: maybe. But end result is its the players not the mod. The players stepped WAY out of line, they made the game un-fun with the bickering. I didn't say they weren't out of line. Those bans were fair (not the replace, never replace modkills). They were also warned. But putting up the severity of the modkill because of twats was not called for just because bh got impatient with his job doesn't mean modkills should change during the game. | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote: I think I was abundantly clear both in thread, and in the mass PM I sent everyone, that the in-thread post was everyone's final warning. I'm referring to what you just said 'll immediately modkill anyone who steps out of line in all games going forward . | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:23 StorrZerg wrote: he issued a global warning for EVERYONE. he changed the rules because people KEPT not respecting the rules. how is this not fair? I signed up for one rule set and it got changed to another that doesn't totally fit to my playstyle evidently as i got modkilled. So no that's not a just system even if it was a warned change. | ||
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On September 23 2014 08:06 Damdred wrote: You should play more fecal, you were fun to play with Yes you did very well for your first game and I honestly hope you don't take this game as standard. It's no coincedence that when we stopped playing voice mafia instances like this have occured! | ||
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