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On October 12 2014 06:26 Damdred wrote: Geript is now in my town circle because I never know how to take his plans. GB if I said you might be scum what would you say? Why would you say he might be scum instead of just flat out calling him scum? | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:29 GlowingBear wrote: He is trying to find a slip. Damdy, I'd say you're wrong and that I'm not really worried because even if you don't believe now you'll believe later because you can read me well Geript, I didn't came to the thread earlier because I just posted and when afk How do you know that he's trying to find a slip? Doesn't that presume he's town? On October 12 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote: Because until GB does his town tell that he doesn't realize he does he might be scum or not drunk enough yet This sounds like complete bullshit. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:33 GlowingBear wrote: I think you are trying hard here. 1st page of thread and you raise this kind of suspicion. Do you really believe he should be calling me scum instead saying I might be scum in the first page of the game? I don't really care if he calls you scum or not; you're not obviously anything at this point. The phrasing that he used is pretty weird though. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:36 GlowingBear wrote: LE TRYHARD IS STRONG IN THIS GAME If you're happy to play, then why are you bullshitting so much early? | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:50 Hopeless1der wrote: Is this like claiming miller but helpful instead? What about the possible game mods. I'm 100% sure that BH would do a balanced setup and it gives important information on preventing fakeclaim messes that numpties will fuck up later. Plus I'm a boss at figuring out setups. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Hi! I'm sqrtofneg1, which equates to i. Therefore you should lynch me. You're either a lacking rational capability or mafia. GTFO. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:57 DarthPunk wrote: In b4 scum team rolls over because I rolled town. Nah, VE I don't think would roll over considering how try hard he's been recently. So it might not be a complete stomp. | ||
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Just a feeling. I can't imagine he'd actually do it as i. I mean I can't imagine anyone would do it w/ you me and VE in the game period but shit. Gut. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:03 DarthPunk wrote: Geript what do you think about glowingbear? Maybe town. But lilt that's a big maybe. | ||
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I could be wrong on him. His posting just felt a bit like in the other not to be named game where he was mafia. Very much like he's talking about the game from the outside. And his response to me very much reminded me of when Palmer said "whoever thinks they're obvious town should come out so I can sheep them" in some game; I did it as mafia and got lynched like a bitch at day or two later. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote: This is worrisome. You guys started the game picking on small, insignificant things, and some pointless votes were thrown around. Wasn't too long before you guys all started town reading one another. Either you guys all have very obvious town metas, or this may indicate a conversation between mafia. Shhh. Baby, I know we're all big but it won't hurt that much and after a second it will feel really good. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:56 GlowingBear wrote: Considering meta, damdy is most likely town to my eyes Explain or die. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:56 GlowingBear wrote: Considering meta, damdy is most likely town to my eyes This is like complete bullshit. Lots of vets have huge problems trying to read Damdred on meta; hell they usually struggle to read him as town period. Explain your meta read on him now. | ||
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On October 12 2014 11:14 Sn0_Man wrote: i felt like taking u down a notch errybody was sucking ur dick and u were acting mega high and mighty His dick is confirmed delish. | ||
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On October 12 2014 11:17 ritoky wrote: what did you have for dinner? i envision you eating some form of fast food tonight unfortunately. please prove me wrong. Stop asking fucking useless stupid questions. | ||
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On October 12 2014 11:56 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm okay with rito for now. I'm okay with anyone who calls me town for now, because they've got good ass reads. Last time you said that you were mafia... #justsayin | ||
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On October 12 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote: No town would make me hungry Super Dumb heuristic #1 I'm going to keep track of how many ridiculous reasons are used to call people town or mafia from now on despite the fact that I'm pretty sure that you've already made like 4-5. Including your completely unsubstantiated and I'm pretty sure flat out wrong meta read on Damdred. | ||
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Jokes are funny. Generally mafia aren't good at making good jokes. You still haven't proven your Damdred meta which I'm actually quite interested in because I'm historically godawful at reading. Prove why your meta is accurate especially why it is this early. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:33 GlowingBear wrote: I think you are trying hard here. 1st page of thread and you raise this kind of suspicion. Do you really believe he should be calling me scum instead saying I might be scum in the first page of the game? On my reread, I found this post interesting. GB doesn't call me mafia for my push on a weak read. Rather it comes off as semi-inquisitive which I like. Kinda seems like he might be thinking about the game. Sleightly towny. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:48 Damdred wrote: DP you always think i look terrible....well the two games we have played. On that note, what do you think of hopeless and GB so far DP? Maybe I just always read Damdred as scum, but this is like the second whine about Damdred being read as mafia. I find it a little out of place because as town my experience when I (or other vets) have read Damdred as scum he's gotten a bit petulant and not really done the whole "Oh silly you" reaction until decently into a shit fight. Usually it's a bit more "you suck" than this too. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Hi! I'm sqrtofneg1, which equates to i. Therefore you should lynch me. We still need to lynch this guy. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:56 Chairman Ray wrote: Did I get the wrong role pm? The one I got says I'm town... was there a mistake? I don't really remembering CR doing much past this post. That means he's likely less interested in playing which is only really understandable to me if he rolled scum. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Like the only people who should be taking offense to that statement are mafia. You're not MAFIA are you DP? This post bugs me and I'm really unsure why. I'll figure it out later. | ||
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On October 12 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote: I'm not really understanding the read overall and want GB to elaborate on it a bit more. Everything you've done so far has looked pretty towny. This post is fucking terrible. Not all of DP's posts make him look towny; besides it's fucking DP and like VE pointed out nothing DP has posted he couldn't have posted from either alignment. I don't think I've seen Damdred semi-hard read a vet as town this early. Most likely mafia townreading a partner to help push agenda or townreading a town to look good. Sqrt's return is especially lackluster. All of his reasons for scum reading people are trash. Kinda funny how he presumes that buddying is always mafia aligned. Not entirely sure what to think of that. Barakos I want to post more but he's exceptionally lynchable as is. More importantly, I really like how VE approaches him. That was really towny. I wish Sn0 would exude towniness like I know he can. Otherwise he's likely a coin flip. Ritoky is quite possibly town for his stupid food posting. I think I've read him wrong before for doing silly stuff like this before as mafia but I have no clue as to which game it was. Oats' reasons for people being mafia are really bad. He also defends DP in an odd way; ie he calls the reasons for thinking DP is mafia bad but doesn't really seem interested in looking at the people using bad reasoning at all. Scumpile for now. | ||
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On October 13 2014 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably not. GlowingBear. Where did your scumread on geript go? Why not? Did Barakos roll mafia and pee his pants? | ||
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On October 13 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay Oats now confirmed town. what? | ||
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On October 13 2014 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think geript has asked me anything for realz. He asked me to "be townie". What's that??? And said he isn't townreading me. Fair enough. Then he should do something about it. DP did do that, yes. I don't like his read on Sn0, and he isn't even voting for him so why would he not talk about ritoky if he thinks he is scum and i don't? My actual plan is to wait until I get a solid read on you either way and either lynch you or sheep you. You can do your thing until then. | ||
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On October 13 2014 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you've been looking forward to playing with me again but you don't really wanna play with me? Nah, we're both too prone to random stupidity in such a way that I don't think it melds well if we're both town. I'd rather get a read on you first. Why'd you say Oats is confirmed town? | ||
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On October 13 2014 09:56 DarthPunk wrote: Do you think he just didn't open his qt for 12 hours or so? It certainly doesn;t make him confirmed town or anything but I don't want him to be lynched today at least. If you couldn't lynch sqrt who would you lynch geript? Oats | ||
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Talk to me about oats. Do you agree with my read on him? You were the one that brought up how to read him is based off of the reasons for his reads. Like he has no good reasons I've seen. Plus no strong reads. | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:48 GlowingBear wrote: Geript, give me your impression on this read. I think it's terrible. I have no clue if lurking is alignment indicative for sqrt. Point 2 is ok-ish. Point 3 is wtf? List reads followed by lurking is bad play; but it's bad play from both alignments and not terribly specific. Point 4 is a supposition not an actual objective fact. Wasn't it Sn0 who said he wouldn't be posting until day 2? | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote: When did I say anything like that about Oats? I'm not sure what to think about Oats, historically I've had a hard time reading him. I will say though that from my experience with him he's posting a lot more freely than in games where he's mafia...leaving me thinking he's town this game. Your reasoning for townreading GB was ballsack dude, you referred back to a post where he's calling you out about tryharding and you're all "Oh this looks townie I guess, even though he made this post to begin with and I've known he made it, NOW it makes him town" Something a little bit like.... Once you brought that post back up I like the read again. Doesn't mean it's right. Why do you think that post would stick in my head as important on the first reading VE? | ||
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There might be 1 active scum, but I think most of the scum are in the non-vet less active people. I find it a bit interesting how DP tends to have a really good read on Kush but doesn't as of yet as best I can remember. So Kush is someone else we should probably consider lynching. I honestly don't think we can expect Sn0 to post much if anything on D2 given my experience with him. Damdred I think is another good lynch; that said, that's a bit less consistent because I've always read him as mafia. His start was exceptionally odd considering his pasts games. Imma be honest VE; I think you're really off track. | ||
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I think it was a hint of "VE turning someone's argument back in on themselves" but how you were doing it wasn't in the way that you do it as mafia. So nah, just kinda let it go. | ||
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On October 14 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Well unless you can give me a compelling reason to vote someone else, I'm going to be wrong over here with my own reads and my townies. How often is the most active person in the thread mafia? That's a good reason in and of itself. I don't think he looks great, but I feel like if he's mafia we should have more damning evidence. | ||
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On October 14 2014 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote: GB isn't the most active person in the thread by a long shot geript, now you're just saying things that aren't even true. Is he MORE active than some? Sure. The most active in the thread? Not even close! He has 8 pages of filter. | ||
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On September 08 2014 16:05 geript wrote: HaruRH/Damdred. They're both conf mafia. Look at Damdred's other games. He's forming reads exceptionally differently than he has as town. He's also less active. He's also more idk polarized. That's harder to explain but I'll try. There's less confidence (less wishy washy than he is as town) and more surety. It looks like he's saying things more so to make a point than to drive discussion (which is a theme I see in his town games). There's also fewer recurring themes or ideas that he latches onto. I'll vote for either of these two today. | ||
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On October 14 2014 03:53 VisceraEyes wrote: Jesus he has 8 pages of filter. Meh. Like half of that is defending himself, but yeah fuck it, I'd rather lynch someone who doesn't have 8 pages of filter on D1. ##Unvote Elaborate on your Oats read geript. Like, you said early on that you think Oats would have strong scumreads like 2 hours into the game. Why do you expect that, and how has your read evolved since Oats has been posting? Oats is still probably mafia. You explained when we were playing league a bit ago, after Oats got shot, that how Oats forms his reads is alignment indicative. His reads are usually pretty decent. But look at this: On October 12 2014 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote: What. tell me the benefits of Scum claiming Prime with a 50% chance of AT BEST trading 1-1 with the real Prime. DP is town cause he is trying to find scum/kill stupid people. Also he isnt going around antagonizing people. 1 that's not a way to read DP b/c he both was antagonizing people to some extent and DP wants to kill stupid people as both alignments. Generally slightly more as scum because it's a bit easier to play up. Or this: On October 12 2014 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote: I dunno about gb man. That push on DP was totes too dumb to be scum. 2dum4scum isn't a heuristic. And it's not one I think I've ever seen from Oats before, but I could be wrong on that. It also goes against the heuristic that most vets use. On October 13 2014 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah GB, but then rikoty isnt scum. The whole post doesnt make sense. Have you seen town!oats call something out without pressuring them or without calling them a dumbass? On October 13 2014 01:37 Oatsmaster wrote: First time I've seen rayn be so polite. I thought it would go like, "Play the game or you die" This is actually the first decent observation of his I found. Like this is the guy he's wanted to lynch: On October 13 2014 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you mean by too passive? Thats in comparison to something. What? ritoky is scum for posting food pics. Posting a horribly bad list post. Not interested in finding scum, more interested in antagonizing people. Town!oats uses "being intentionally annoying" as a scum read???? wtf. Like he makes a bunch of little pushes, which is fine. But his reasoning is completely absent for most of that or it's just really shitty. All that said, Damdred has 2 pages of filter. When he usually has 5 by now. That's odd. That's really odd. Plus, he's been right when he never has before (although that could just be trying to rpevent a hsitfight). | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: geript Geript uses page-count in filter to condemn Damdred when Damdred is evidently not around to make the posts. Rather than make a read on his content (which he should be doing if he's "seriously filtering him now") he falls back on activity to justify his vote. Geript is looking really really bad to me. Explain your shit vote VE. | ||
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No he didn't. | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:57 VisceraEyes wrote: "Suck this much as town"? You've spent all game telling me how town I am and sucking my dick, and when I point out ONE inconsistency in your game I'm mafia because I can't "suck this much as town"? Are you joking me gerit? No I'm not. Because Town VE likes going on lurker lynches. Especially when he has a bunch of townreads. Yah I thought you were town. There's literally no reason to think I'm mafia. So no I don't think that town VE is all like, "I'll avoid a lurker lynch on Sn0, a lurker lynch on Damdred and a effectively lurker lynch on Ritoky to jump on Geript because of shit reasons." You're a solid town player. I don't think you can suck this badly. All that said, GB reading me as town like that is a really fucking scummy post. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:04 VisceraEyes wrote: GFO ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! YOU CALL ME TOO SHITTY TO BE TOWN AND THEN AGREE WITH ONE OF MY FUCKING READS!??! FUCKING DIE GERIPT I can agree that one of your reads is scummy because what he did and how he did it was exceptionally scummy. Doesn'tmake the read right or wrong. Even more so, unless you're pulling a Hapa, then you're probably mafia. I'm not actually sure right now. What I do know is that it's really, really fucking odd that you're pushing on me at hte end of the day when there's a billion lurkers around and I'm pretty towny. Hell you've even ignored the fact that Damdred had a town read on me supposedly. Then he's happy to insta flip. As town, he generally doesn't OMGUS until you're made a bunch of big cases and points on him. That's pretty fucking weird itself. Rayn, vote damdred w/ me | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:10 DarthPunk wrote: geript if you die who should we lynch? Damdred for sure. Oats for most probably. VE for possibly; his push on me is really really weird if he's town. But he might be town, but I don't think so. Probably Sn0. It feels like everyone's happy to throw his name around but no one seems to want to seriously lynch him. For a lurker that makes him a good shot to be mafia. Not Rayn for sure; never ever ever lynch rayn. Take a look at hopeless again; probly town but idk wtf he's doing. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you realizticly think you can even get people to vote for Damdred? Because i don't. So vote sqrt with me. Sqrt might be town though. Sn0 is far, far better lurker lynch. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:28 DarthPunk wrote: Geript Vote oats with me. All he has done is sheep like fuck this game. As town he makes cases and has independent thoughts. #done | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh all right. But I'm makin porkchops after this SO NO QUESTIONS!!! Is it really porkchops or are you stirring the beans again? | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:31 VisceraEyes wrote: It's really porkchops today. I'd be jealous, but I can't eat porkchops. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:32 ritoky wrote: The fact that you just very recently played with me in the only game I was mafia on these forums and think I am not town from my current filter is absurd. I cannot believe your reads are that bad. But then again you just recently called VE bad and prob not town, so maybe they can be. If you think I am fucking around, maybe you should stop looking at the pictures and read the content. I would, but the food was the only thing of content in them. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Geript i don't think Damdred is mafia. This looks like in line with his town play. He never says anything important, just flips stuff around asking questions. really? But like how do you tell the difference between his town play and his mafia play? Like I legit have no good way to read that guy and he always looks like mafia to me. But this game looked far more like what I remember of his mafia play when read like 7 or so of his past games. Like any game I'm a vig, I'll probably just shoot him just to remove a question mar. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless is town because he claimed prime. Yah but mafia should always claim prime. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: If this is what you think why did you advice town to claim? Because I want those claims out early so that I can look at the people who claim and figure out which one is actually town. But with only 1 claiming it makes it tough especially when the person who claims is someone who I haven't got a bunch of experience with. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:52 DarthPunk wrote: There could be as many as 3 primes geript. so that makes no fucking sense to me. But if there's 3 primes then town essentially knows the setup. BH would never do that RNG or no. | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Inever read any of your posts past the town jesus post where i decided you are probably town. You never said anything interesting after that and i basically forgot both of the scum left after D1 were in the game. lol. Until the claimwarz! I was mad about that game too. I was Balrog and never got to use it. | ||
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On October 14 2014 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is there a world where geript is mafia and GlowingBear is not? Wait VE what was the name of the World heavyweight champions game where there was the nomination lynch mechanic? I think geript did something very similar there. Like there was a lynch going and he just dropped some random new lynch targets at the end of D1. To answer you question, no. | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:53 Damdred wrote: I'm sold on Geript being mafia right now, all his points about me (while it could be said are omgus) they do not line up. Rayn picked a few a part pretty good with my thought pattern, and explained it pretty well. And i'm documented in the thread for reading him scum there, and some reasons for it. 1) I am not sharing my read with you because I wasn't asked and i was in a little bit of a hurry 2) I haven't been pushing you because im pretty sure you aren't scum presently 3) You seemed to do a pretty decent job defending yourself, your filter was big enough where you shouldn't of been the lynch and there was plenty of sentiment to move away from you. So not sure what I was defending you against. I have been tied up with you in my limited thread time, i should be free more tomorrow Not going to lie the "I've already done/wrote" that is something I see a bunch from mafia. | ||
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On October 15 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Stuff happens in thread. geript comes in and says: "yo those primes should claim!" Hopeless says: "why should i claim my role, does it help us in some way?" Badam! The obvious answer! geript not so good at figuring out setups. lynch him D2, he probably claims some role but still lynch him. bull shit. I figure out setups amzingly. I even figure out NK's pretty well too. Rayn, you're being dumb here again. | ||
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On October 15 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Look. Think about it yourself. There is 2 prome claims. You are scum. Would you claim another prime? He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part. | ||
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On October 15 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise? He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc. | ||
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I'd like to point out that any medic or cop flip proves me right. And either should claim at start of d2. | ||
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On October 15 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Like ALL of the setups include at least one prime - so mafia KNOW FOR A FACT that if they claim Prime, SOMEONE ELSE will ALSO claim Prime and fuck up their day. Except that only 1, maybe 2 roles can CC them. If no one else claims, they essentially 100% know the setup. If 1 CC, nbd. Just look towny as 2 aren't unlikely at all. Plus it takes having 2 blues come out to force flipping primes which is good for them. | ||
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On October 15 2014 02:40 Damdred wrote: Geript, why is it every time you enter thread you just seemily try to make up things to make someone scummy. But then when you get called out or people reply to you or ask questions you just move onto another target? And your "If I were mafia i'd claim a role by now" Thats such wifom I'm not changing target. I still think you're scum. I just want people to actually consider Hopeless too b/c he's also mafia. Not sure on the third. | ||
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On October 15 2014 07:11 Chairman Ray wrote: Yeah, I find it hard to believe that mafia would actually shoot the prime. What does everyone think about just leaving both hopeless and GB alive today? I'm not sure which we lynch. We definitely lynch 1. | ||
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On October 15 2014 07:29 Chairman Ray wrote: DP was arguably the top town. He had the most influence on day 1, directing everyone to his preferred lynch, and most people were townreading him. Do you think it's possible he was killed because mafia wanted to get rid of the top town? He wasn't the person I expected to flip. Maybe I kinda forgot about him. But with the flip and the cop claim, that's like awful play if GB is mafia. Like the right tactic is to not shoot into the prime claims ever. So why kill DP? I don't get why he's the kill over Rayn or VE assuming both are town. | ||
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This is an odd response from hopeless. | ||
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On October 15 2014 07:49 Chairman Ray wrote: Hopeless is talking like GB is town, which concerns me. We agree on that. There's a unlikely chance that GB is town camel aiming and he's prime but meh. I find the lackadaisical attitude toward DP claiming prime far more telling. Even if he's townreading DP why the "well that sucks" response if hopeless in town. | ||
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On October 15 2014 07:57 Hopeless1der wrote: he did instavote me. He's also fakeclaiming. Or BH fucked up and the game is void. Either way I don't actually care anymore. Lets lynch sqrt My brain is clearly dying. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:14 GlowingBear wrote: VE that's totally true. I rescind my claim. I was already about to rescind because I've gathered enough reactions from my fake claim and I losing more time debating this will be detrimental to town. Why? | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote: It wasn't a good play because you suspect me for now on, but I think it was okay to gather reaction. I mean, if you're mafia and see two townies, one possibly fake claiming, you'll be okay with lynching any or even both *cough cough geript* As I said, I'm gonna re-read and analyse scenarios Oh man. And I town read you. | ||
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Why fakeclaim. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:29 GlowingBear wrote: Geript you were ok with lynching any of us. At this point of the game, you could have an idea of who was acting scummy and who wasn't Hopeless wasn't contributing until now. I was. It was okay to believe that hopeless was mafia and I was town, specially considering that fake claiming now is a poor play as mafia. Yet you had no idea who to lynch. I expect mafia to fake a confusion or insta voting than actually trying to understand the scenario first. And that's exactly what you and kush did. Saying you have been contributing is a stretch. I really don't care. VE will probably get you lynched. If you're town then we'll lose when VE goes to lynch me next probably. Whatever. I'm voting my read. Like, I already thought hopeless was mafia. But it's hard to imagine the immense amount of sheer stupidity it takes to reaction test ther from your position. Like even if he is mafia, there's no way he backs down from the claim because you're already lynch bait. Like part of fake claiming is having a good read on the setup and position and state of the game. Like I really don't care what you are right now. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:34 GlowingBear wrote: Oh god. Examples of what I expected from mafia: "Hmm, I'm not sure, hmm... maybe glowing or... hmm... hopeless" or "lol it's hopeless BAM VOTE" What I expected from town "This doesn't make sense because of this and this... but also bla bla bla" Do you understand the difference? I find it hard to explain... Nah fuck it. This is now complete bullshit. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:38 GlowingBear wrote: Geript, hopeless would never admit I could be town if he was mafia. He would pressure me until the very end. Not necessarily. All he needs to do is hold the claim. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote: He will mostly hold the claim and try to get me lynched. I don't believe he would defend me with the 1 for 1 argument. Nah. Bc if you're town he knows you can be fake and trying to pull an awesome Geript force scum to concede tm fakeclaim. Plus at worst odds are that you're fake claiming ( medic or someone else is cop). Plus he looks better inherently because he claimed way before you did. Like if he gives you the chance to rescind then he gets to keep his confirmed town status everyone is giving him and be useless. I've done it before. It's kinda fun. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:45 Hopeless1der wrote: honestly, am i supposed to suspect you're mafia? Like if it gets to LYLO and we're hurting for a lynch i'm going to bring this up but right now what you did is fucking suicide. Qft Eccentric =/= good If you're town you should understand how dumb what you did was and feel bad for it. | ||
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On October 15 2014 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand what geript is talking about there. Maybe he can explain it. So you think Damdred is mafai even though he shares your other scumreads? Like is he bussing his whole team? What's this referring to Rayn. | ||
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On October 16 2014 01:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Also of note: geript is treating me like a townie today while supposedly I'm one of his top mafia reads. It's like they're fucking conceding guys, we just have to actually lynch them. That's because I'm really lost in this game and I'm really unsure of my reads right now. | ||
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On October 15 2014 21:16 GlowingBear wrote: Alright. 1) I immediately rescinded my claim because I thought it would be detrimental to town to keep that discussion. Yes, it was after VE pointed out a problem, but I was planning to rescind soon. Look into VE's argument: + Show Spoiler + "Like here's where your story falls to pieces. If you're parity cop then you knew going into the night - not at the end of the night but GOING INTO the night that there were 3 primes claimed. This means that from YOUR perspective, you knew that there was 1 between DP and Hopeless and that there is ZERO DOCTOR. That means that you DO NOT get a check when you "out", because mafia will KILL YOU." A parity cop must check anyone regardless if he is going to die or not. I could simply keep this discussion going and make my way out of it. I could simply say that "yes, I checked Rayn because I had to check someone and I plan to check other person at night" and keep going trying to kill Hopeless. Simply as that. It was very dumb to claim as town? Yes! It is even worse claiming as mafia? Yes. If hopeless gets lynched and flips prime, I, as mafia, would get lynched day3. It would be better to hide and try a mislynch on townies today. There are a lot of unconfirmed townies this game to get a mislynch. Horrible move as mafia. I'm saying it again: I am VT and I fake claimed to get reactions. I've never done that before and I decided I should give it a shot. It was horrible. 2) There is no way I'm mafia after I've put so much effort in the game, specially at night one. I filter dived a lot of people, searched for previous games to understand meta and came back with that to the thread. You were basically scumreading me for saying DP was blue but pointing him out as scum. But check the rest of my gameplay and see if it convinces you I'm mafia. Now I defended myself, answering Rayn. Rayn, I think Hopeless is town for his reaction. He didn't flip, there was a chance he was mafia. I mean, there is a possible setup where there is 2 primes and 1 parity cop, and simply 2 primes without any PR. I expected him to, as mafia, start coming full throttle against me. I mean, if a mafia got busted, I think he would turn aggressive and try to get me mislynched at least to save himself. Yet he thought I could be town fake claiming. To be honest, now that I think more out of this, this doesn't mean much. I just realised that if we are in a setup where there is only 2 primes and no power roles, there is also a GF, which means that there is no Power Role so he KNOWS I'm town and he ALSO knows I'm vt if he is mafia. God my claim was more retarded than I thought. Anyway, I'm still having him as town... CR, for his stream of thought, his confusion but trying to solve it, I don't think mafia would do that and look genuine like CR did. I believe that he turned from a question mark into a leaning town after my fake claim. Now, on geript: This is his first post, even after hopeless thought I could be town. He didn't have second thoughts here. He decided that the thread should definetely lynch one. It will be a mislynch anyway. Now, check this post I've just realised THIS POST IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT. Why is he asking if he had a bad read on me? Why is he asking why did I claim? WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE POSTED ON THE SCUM QT? Like, it sounds like he knows I'm VT and he is trying to understand why I decided to fake claim. LOL Damdred just posted this: And asked nothing else, neither came back with a follow up. Again, he is not trying to figure the game. I'm having a hard time believing he is town. Kush simply voted on Hopeless and fucked off. Like I would expect from a mafia, because he wouldn't care who to lynch: VE's reaction was very solid logic and I believe that his inquisitive tone makes him townie. That's what I've got, Rayn. This post? | ||
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On October 16 2014 03:09 VisceraEyes wrote: The Damdred thing is damming. Also your refusal to read and analyse the game. Also you going on and on about everything outside the game. What damdred thing? The fact that I noted that he had 2 pages of filter and that's unusual for his town play? And then you were all up in arms because he was in a second game and driving at the time. I don't see how that's scummy at all. | ||
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On October 16 2014 03:11 VisceraEyes wrote: He never ever did comment on Damdred's content, and now he's not commenting on ANYONE's content. Except that I usually read people mostly on meta. | ||
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On October 16 2014 03:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Like this is so classic scum it's hilarious. Look at how the bolded discredits me while the question seems innocuous. He's asking me to justify my read on him WHEN I'VE DONE SO AD NAUSEUM EXPLICITLY IN THE THREAD. He's just trying to discredit the lynch on him, and the person pushing it. He's MAFIA guys. You're literally either being stupid are are scum. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:34 Damdred wrote: GB is pretty easy to read normally and he does have a pretty prominent town tell that he does in every game that hes town in. I hate that we are already at this point geript @Damdred. What was this supposed town tell? Has GB done it yet this game? Provide proofs of your read. | ||
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On October 16 2014 01:17 sqrtofneg1 wrote: My thoughts on GB claim and stuff: First thought: WTF? That claim makes no sense. GB is mafia or Hopeless is mafia. Second thought: That claim makes even less sense for mafia to do. GB is town, therefore Hopeless is mafia. Third thought: Wait a second, he retracted his claim. Does that make Hopeless town? Do we actually have 3 Primes? I think the winning play is to not lynch GB or Hopeless. We need to lynch elsewhere. Hopelss I think was off and on pushing sqrt for his big post. I tried to check a few of his past games, but it's hard to find if he's town or mafia in any of the non-vet/newbie game. His big post looks very similar to that game other than the fact that it's significantly larger than usual. This post specificially bugs me because I think most everyone had come to this consensus at this point so it's mostly filler. He hasn't posted that much overall but that is I guess in part due to Canadian thanksgiving. I get a sense that he's town and doesn't really play town that well and is kinda lost. His recurrent pushes against CR actually make me feel good about him and I don't really know why because he doesn't actually bring up anything of any substance against him. I feel like I should scumread him but feels tells me otherwise. | ||
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On October 15 2014 10:44 Damdred wrote: Good god, I was sitting in the car waiting to get back to the comp so I could read the conversation. This fake claim bullshit just sends me up a wall, ever since noir 2 it just sends me into a rage. GB give me your reads, you been defending yourself and throwing out suspicions randomly I thought you were town. So give me something show me where you are instead of asking people where they are This doesn't seem like he's angry at all. I'm not quite sure why it bugs me but it does. Honestly though, I think Damdred is my kryptonite. If I'm ever vig, I'll probably just shoot him just so I don't have to ever read him. | ||
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On October 17 2014 01:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I'm not even trying to be a jerk here, but I'm THAT certain about geript. He doesn't play this way as town. As town he tries - he makes cases and makes observations and argues with people. You think if geript was town he'd let the wagon get this far on him? YOU'RE WRONG IF YOU THINK YES!!!! None taken, I'm not sure I'd read me as town objectively. | ||
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On October 17 2014 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote: AT this point if it's not geript then the only team I can see is Hopeless/Kush/CR or something...Hopeless + 2 lurkers or whatever. I'll figure it out if geript flips town. But I'm pretty sure he's mafia. Well I have most of 2 uninterrupted hours. Let's pretend I've flipped town and start talking. | ||
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On October 17 2014 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote: geript explain why you said you expect mafia to claim Prime but you've been utterly ignoring Hopeless as a potential mafia candidate today. Because I kinda like his filter and think he's towny. My only hesitation is that if there's an i, it makes him and Rayn look pretty scummy. To explain, Hopeless acted like he knew there wasn't a cop; if he's mafia, that 100% means there's an i on there team. Next, Rayn stated during the night that I was trying to set myself up to claim a role, medic if I recall correctly. Medic being the only role that is possible with an i if memory serves. The combination of the two specifically has bugged me, but I think both are town. | ||
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I read this to be slightly towny. Generally mafia don't look for or care about problems in their own thought process. | ||
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On October 17 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote: geript what I'm most interested in right now is you thoroughly explaining who you think is mafia and why. I've told you. Right now, I honestly have no clue. Thus why I'm trying to read specific people. Are there any people you want me to read specifically? | ||
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On October 15 2014 06:17 sqrtofneg1 wrote: GlowingBear is looking town. Excellent posts such as these: Show that he's working to figure out the game. Same thing with rayn. He's town. I definitely don't like Chairman Ray. He pushes me, but then votes Oats without commenting at all about him. Scummy. DarthPunk is the first one who picked up on my 'townslip'. Shows great attention to the thread. Either mafia, or just good townie. However, he's been jumping around, target wise. Goes from me, to Sn0 and ritoky, to GlowingBear, to Oatsmaster. He had pretty much no case on Sn0, ritoky and Oats, and yet people all jumped on to the Oats wagon. I don't like that. I still have no idea on ritoky. Damdred has been pushing Geript. VE is town. His logic against geript is excellent. EX: Geript's the guy who pushed Oats. He also doesn't like Damdred. Currently, he wants us to look at hopeless. I don't think so. .... I don't have any solid evidence against geript, but I don't like him. Hopeless isn't doing much either. No solid reads except me. Plus, probability wise, it's really unlikely he's actually a prime. Top lynch target today. ##Vote: Hopeless1der I think is post is actually quite interesting. For a two very specific reasons. Neither of the posts he quotes for his town reads are separated apart very far, whereas when he finds scumread he usually has two very disjointed quotes that are far apart. Second, his reasoning for finding people town is surprisingly threadbare. "Looks like they're solving the game." The first trend continues in his other posts as well from what I can see. The thing that I find specifically odd about the first is that GB and Rayn are two of the more prolific posters in this game but he doesn't seem to have a wide range of things he's thinking about from them. | ||
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On October 13 2014 22:21 kushm4sta wrote: yo gb why sqrt? there are people more deserving of a plynch. i like sqrts brief early game arguments. This is a post that bugs me a bit after reading sqrt again. I don't understand why a vet would like any of sqrt's early arguments at all. There's essentially "filter fillerizing" "buddying" etc. They're not arguments I expect would resonate with any vet. | ||
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On October 14 2014 22:54 kushm4sta wrote: sorry gb i was out of line. just makes me mad when im trying to keep up with the game and you post page after page of "hmm im the only one here" "im still the only one here" "where is everyone" etc! I can't remember the game. It had HF, Thrawn and Kush in it and I either ran it or cohosted it. I remember most everyone townread Kush early on. The only reason why it stands out to me is that Kush sound much more sincere in his bitching about filter lengths and the number of pages. On October 15 2014 04:55 kushm4sta wrote: incorrect. If everyone played like rayn, mafia would be a game of pure logic. Low activity players add an element of psychology. You can't look at logic so instead you have to look at behavior and attitude. That's what rayn doesn't understand. And that's why he'll never be good at the game. I find this post a bit interesting in the sense that Kush doesn't seem like he actually wants to do anything thing this game at all. I find that interesting because usually Kush wants to help at least a little bit as town. Like he doesn't care much, but he always seems to care a little bit more as town IIRC. | ||
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On October 13 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote: I think it's not particularly good. He criticizes sqrt for having not read the thread/lack of context; yet I think he misses the context on when sqrt posted his reads by a mile. He then criticizes some not particularly early day 1 reads; yet he doesn't of the multiple others giving crap day 1 reads. I also feel like it stems a bit from not playing with sqrt before (idk if this is actually the case), cuz I know the last time I played with him he had a distinct posting style, we were both town and I ML'd him on d1. For that, I am wary of cases on him d1 as he is low hanging fruit from my previous experiences with him. That said, people seemed to agree with the case but not push forward with it at all which strikes me as odd (maybe just cuz sqrt isn't here). Basically I think it is meh at best. I think the better criticism is that sqrt isn't around at all and when he is around he doesn't seem to be actively pushing the game forward, simply responding to pings on him. sqrt is less town now than he was for me before, but not enough for me to be worried about him yet. This post bugs me too fwiw. Usually when town talk about things in context, they usually provide an example. This looks more like generic discrediting which is signed off with "oh and here's why you shouldn't do it because I've mislynched him before blahblahblah, but that was a while ago so it might not be actually be applicable, but even still I think he's town (but less town) for similar posting style." Ritoky's hard to read, but he's an ok shot for mafia too; moreso if sqrt is. | ||
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On October 20 2014 07:43 Damdred wrote: Yea gb you can read me great honestly, now people will start giving me The oats treatment. I would give my meta to avoid that but i like winning as scum Nah. I'd lynch you because it's fun to lynch you. And I'm never using HF's meta read on you again. | ||
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On October 20 2014 08:50 Damdred wrote: What is hfs meta read? Id tell you what's wrong with it I know what's wrong with it. You are always mafia regardless of alignment | ||
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