I just got back from playing Pokemon Trading Card game with some friends and went to a late dinner at Red Robin so sorry about my activity T_T Breshke just seems to be mad at sicklucker for what happened in our previous game :O Batsnacks lost his mind or he is scum trying to go after kush but kush didn't post anything just yet so I don't got a read on kush. Oatsmaster is town in my eyes as he is being very constructive on the agenda for Day 1. Are we allow to sleep on anyday because I remember in my last game we had slept for 1 day and I wondering if we are allowed to becausee personally I don't think Day 1 lynching is a good idea because of possible afks or just having horrible reads.
On November 25 2014 13:00 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back from playing Pokemon Trading Card game with some friends and went to a late dinner at Red Robin so sorry about my activity T_T Breshke just seems to be mad at sicklucker for what happened in our previous game :O Batsnacks lost his mind or he is scum trying to go after kush but kush didn't post anything just yet so I don't got a read on kush. Oatsmaster is town in my eyes as he is being very constructive on the agenda for Day 1. Are we allow to sleep on anyday because I remember in my last game we had slept for 1 day and I wondering if we are allowed to becausee personally I don't think Day 1 lynching is a good idea because of possible afks or just having horrible reads.
What else do you think? And whos scum?
I think Trfel is just a new town player because his post although giving answers to why he scum reading HTS. Also he followed up to clarify his post thoughts from his previous post from Page 10 and is trying to give a good reason for his reads. HTS seems null as his actions seems questionable on his post about Breske and sicklucker policy lynching but he also said he was new to TL mafia so maybe it just his lack of experience in TL mafia just showing up now. rsoultin seems to be scum as his posts were not much content but then again it was our very first day of the game so the reads not be good at the moment as he posted very little.
On November 25 2014 13:00 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back from playing Pokemon Trading Card game with some friends and went to a late dinner at Red Robin so sorry about my activity T_T Breshke just seems to be mad at sicklucker for what happened in our previous game :O Batsnacks lost his mind or he is scum trying to go after kush but kush didn't post anything just yet so I don't got a read on kush. Oatsmaster is town in my eyes as he is being very constructive on the agenda for Day 1. Are we allow to sleep on anyday because I remember in my last game we had slept for 1 day and I wondering if we are allowed to becausee personally I don't think Day 1 lynching is a good idea because of possible afks or just having horrible reads.
What else do you think? And whos scum?
I think Trfel is just a new town player because his post although giving answers to why he scum reading HTS. Also he followed up to clarify his post thoughts from his previous post from Page 10 and is trying to give a good reason for his reads. HTS seems null as his actions seems questionable on his post about Breske and sicklucker policy lynching but he also said he was new to TL mafia so maybe it just his lack of experience in TL mafia just showing up now. rsoultin seems to be scum as his posts were not much content but then again it was our very first day of the game so the reads not be good at the moment as he posted very little.
I'm not reading Half the Sky as scum, I'm just not yet confident that he is town. I said this in my third post in the thread (first one after the start of the game):
On November 25 2014 12:35 Trfel wrote: So I don't have a read either way there ... My gut tells me he is town, though.
I'm not sure if that is what what you meant, but just to clarify, I do not want and never have wanted to policy lynch sicklucker.
I must of read your post wrong then at the time I was looking it at sorry T_T. In my post I was talking about Beshke policy lynching sicklucker not you.
I was just wating for more posts to get some better reads that why I haven't posted much because there was really much for me to ready. I still waiting for alakaslam, Dicksmash McIroncock, and Meatpudding to post. My reads are atm the following Town: Oatsmaster, sicklucker, Damdred, kushm4sta, Trfel Null: Half the Sky, Breshke, Alakaslam Scum: Dicksmash McIroncock, Meatpudding. Dicksmash didn't post anything after his first post for the day and Meatpudding is either trolling us with the stuff he posted earlier or he scum but time will tell. Alakaslam at least gave a good explanation for his posts. Breshke gave a explanation on why he voted for sicklucker Half the Sky made some decent posts but it reads null in my eyes but I still kind of new to TL Mafia (2nd game in TL mafia).
My read on Dicksmash McIroncock is null but it due my inexperience in playing TL mafia but at the same time I reading Damndred as null too. Damndred voting for Dicksmash and not giving a reason seems suspicious in my eyes as reasoning would be very indicated of being town . Dicksmash posts seem to have very little substance in them at the moment or it just my inexperience playing with me. I going with kush and say lynch Dicksmash since I think he the better person to lynch due to his very little substance posting as seem in his filter to not helping us so it might be a good indication of him being being scum or a noob town but this was the same I was lynched in my last game and I turned out to be the Town Cop. If you guys give me a better reason to lynch Dicksmash McIroncock I will consider it but for now I think sleep is the best option since the reads on Day 1 are normally not good. ##vote Sleep
On November 27 2014 03:25 rsoultin wrote: Okay, so while deep-diving it was LightningStrike that kept pushing the no-lynch...all of the chatter is running together for me right now. I agree that Day 1 reads are next to useless. Think I've stated that in various ways multiple times. However...@LightningStrike
What use is it really to push off a Day 1 lynch? Are you hoping for a cop read? Or that the mafia will kill someone and it will just be a stunning Eureka-moment revelation? Like as not, we'll be just as in the dark Day 2 as Day 1. At least with a lynch we'll have more information to go off of. That with your few posts of nothing makes me itchy.
To tell you the truth I don't want to lose a power role at Day 1 like my last game did and the game was lost because of it. I don't to have that mistake repeat itself and ruin our chances of winning that's why I asking for a Day 1 no lynch.
On November 27 2014 03:35 rsoultin wrote: While I can understand that LS, the odds are actually pretty low that something like that will happen. Also, the assumption that losing a power role on Day 1 automatically loses the game for town is inherently faulty; it just puts more pressure on town to make good reads and logic things out.
I guess it just from having a bad experience from my last game that is the reason I trying to be more conservative about the Day 1 lynching. On the case on Dicksmash seems to be legitimately good from reading the case posted by kush and kush seems to be doing good reads this game. I really like the case for Dicksmash today since you (rsoultin) convinced me that it's to low of a chance of lynching a power role which I was originally why I was scared to lynch Day 1. ##Unvote##Vote Dicksmash McIroncock
On November 27 2014 03:35 rsoultin wrote: While I can understand that LS, the odds are actually pretty low that something like that will happen. Also, the assumption that losing a power role on Day 1 automatically loses the game for town is inherently faulty; it just puts more pressure on town to make good reads and logic things out.
I guess it just from having a bad experience from my last game that is the reason I trying to be more conservative about the Day 1 lynching. On the case on Dicksmash seems to be legitimately good from reading the case posted by kush and kush seems to be doing good reads this game. I really like the case for Dicksmash today since you (rsoultin) convinced me that it's to low of a chance of lynching a power role which I was originally why I was scared to lynch Day 1. ##Unvote##Vote Dicksmash McIroncock
On November 27 2014 07:42 Half the Sky wrote: That is frustrating, his voting also made no sense. We had no way of figuring he was the doctor, and I was convinced enough by kush. Now I'm having a really bad feeling about this. Who else seemed driven to vote DSMI?
Oats and Damndred. Sorry the late reply for the night post but my fears had happened :|. rsoultin your apology is accepted. My reads had now changed because of this lynching. My scum team are the ones who pushed for DSMI Kush Oatsmaster Damndred. If we got a cop check one of those 3 out. If we got a Tracker go on to anyone since we got possible setups with a doctor revealed and we got no idea which setup is being used except for either Set up A or Set up C :|
On November 27 2014 07:42 Half the Sky wrote: That is frustrating, his voting also made no sense. We had no way of figuring he was the doctor, and I was convinced enough by kush. Now I'm having a really bad feeling about this. Who else seemed driven to vote DSMI?
Oats and Damndred. Sorry the late reply for the night post but my fears had happened :|. rsoultin your apology is accepted. My reads had now changed because of this lynching. My scum team are the ones who pushed for DSMI Kush Oatsmaster Damndred. If we got a cop check one of those 3 out. If we got a Tracker go on to anyone since we got possible setups with a doctor revealed and we got no idea which setup is being used except for either Set up A or Set up C :|
what?
I thought I saw a post of him pushing for the lynch but Kush and Damndred I know did and now that I just reread the thing since you questioning the bolded part it was just a misread it was HTS who helped push it so here the scum list for me now that I had reread everything Kush HTS Damndred.
On November 27 2014 07:42 Half the Sky wrote: That is frustrating, his voting also made no sense. We had no way of figuring he was the doctor, and I was convinced enough by kush. Now I'm having a really bad feeling about this. Who else seemed driven to vote DSMI?
Oats and Damndred. Sorry the late reply for the night post but my fears had happened :|. rsoultin your apology is accepted. My reads had now changed because of this lynching. My scum team are the ones who pushed for DSMI Kush Oatsmaster Damndred. If we got a cop check one of those 3 out. If we got a Tracker go on to anyone since we got possible setups with a doctor revealed and we got no idea which setup is being used except for either Set up A or Set up C :|
What? Oats was on bats what are you on about? Are you reading? Why are the main pushes of DSMI (who didn't even fight his lynch btw) scum?
I just fixed the scum list since I had misread on who was posting what and they are scum in my eyes because normally mafia would push for the newer players more often than not. Just my opinion based on this lynching and my last game when I got lynched Day 1 as a power role Cop in that game.
On November 27 2014 08:03 sicklucker wrote: Your reads are not completely horrible ls, but theirs no way their all right mafia is not so obvious to vote with each other on day 1. So when you say the scum team is the people who voted him out your just wrong. Some towns lead the charge. Some mafia might have joined in. I think its a bit likely one of kush or dand are mafia. Little chance they both are
True but then again my last game when I got lynched as Cop 1 mafia had their votes on me so it could just be 1 of them on the Doctor lynching.
On November 27 2014 02:03 Half the Sky wrote: DSMI voters - I understand the policy vote arguments, and for the most part, I'm okay with that, because he and Alakaslam had about the same post count with minimal substance going into last night. I can accept that argument. The Day 1 argument, okay, I can also give someone that too...however...
I'm looking at his post-page 18 activity and he has been putting out some substance though it could be supported better. He did have a bandwagon bats vote...
...but if you are looking to policy vote ANYONE at this point, you guys should be going after Alakaslam, not DSMI. After page 18, DSMI isn't a policy vote in my book.
On November 27 2014 01:35 kushm4sta wrote: dicksmash lynch doubles as a plynch. so we will be in a good position even if he's town.
What do I mean? I mean that he is going to be a big unknown all game due to his lack of activity and not giving a fuck. Unlike someone like bats or oats, who can prove themselves town later in the game.
Fair point, but can you (or anyone) distinguish between him and Alakaslam?
The keyword is DOUBLES. As in he's a good scumlynch as well as plynch. Alaka would be a better pure plynch sure, but Dicksmash has scummy content as well.
Dicksmash shows a need to survive. Earlier he came into the thread and tried to give some content.
On November 26 2014 12:48 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: My mistake. It was page 10 when you first called HTS town but a couple posts later put him up as your scumread. SL wrant from null to scum as well. Though reading through bats filter I can see that of everyone he's made and effort to not post reads or reasoning for votes so for today my vote stand on him ## vote bats
This reasoning is generic bullshit. He's voting batsnacks for 1 fluidity of reads - which is common d1 2 not posting reads or reasoning - which other people have been worse about, plus is not even really true
On November 27 2014 02:10 LightningStrike wrote: I going with kush and say lynch Dicksmash since I think he the better person to lynch due to his very little substance posting as seem in his filter to not helping us so it might be a good indication of him being being scum or a noob town but this was the same I was lynched in my last game and I turned out to be the Town Cop.
LS, check page 1. DSMI is not in the noob category. You were last game and this game. You cannot compare the two situations.
Kush, I went through his filter again, and now your arguments are making a lot more sense. I checked the filter against the sequence of his reads/explanations versus others for the same individuals and there is a lot of bandwagoning. Too much for his own good this late in the day.
I'm still not feeling too good about Batsnacks though, ignoring any meta. I would be lying if I said otherwise.
##Unvote ##Vote Dicksmash McIroncock
I took what kush said and tested it using the filter against the arguments he presented. It fell in line, which is why I was convinced enough to change the vote.
It felt like you actively pursue it but at least you gave a good explanation for your vote which was the same reason why I voted for him to be honest. Anyways guys I going to be gone for 3.5 hours as I going somewhere tonight but when I get home I going to read everything after this post.
After reading what everyone said from Oats would rather visit bats grave when his dog needs to take a piss to discussion on who to lynch tomorrow I think our best options is either Damndred or Bats. Bats because he keep changing his votes without a explanation which can be scummy or just bats trolling us like he did early on in the last game I played with him. Damndred because he help start the lynch actively without a good reason and had a baseless defense on his vote.
Although I finding it strange for Damndred to defend you batsnacks but his actions seemed shakey so for now I can safely say he is null but slightly leaning mafia. Batsnacks you got any reads on anyone you would like to share at the moment because I want hear your current reads that's all.
On November 27 2014 12:25 LightningStrike wrote: After reading what everyone said from Oats would rather visit bats grave when his dog needs to take a piss to discussion on who to lynch tomorrow I think our best options is either Damndred or Bats. Bats because he keep changing his votes without a explanation which can be scummy or just bats trolling us like he did early on in the last game I played with him. Damndred because he help start the lynch actively without a good reason and had a baseless defense on his vote.
So why did you sheep damdred if you think he started the lynch actively without a good reason?
rsoultin convenced me to be honest with you as I saidf earlier in the thread before I changed my vote I was wanting to sleep since Day 1 reads are normally bad and don't want to risk lynching a power role and he said it's to little of a chance to lynch a power role and assured me it was the best thing to do so that why I changed my vote.
On November 27 2014 12:25 LightningStrike wrote: After reading what everyone said from Oats would rather visit bats grave when his dog needs to take a piss to discussion on who to lynch tomorrow I think our best options is either Damndred or Bats. Bats because he keep changing his votes without a explanation which can be scummy or just bats trolling us like he did early on in the last game I played with him. Damndred because he help start the lynch actively without a good reason and had a baseless defense on his vote.
So why did you sheep damdred if you think he started the lynch actively without a good reason?
rsoultin convenced me to be honest with you as I said earlier in the thread before I changed my vote I was wanting to sleep since Day 1 reads are normally bad and don't want to risk lynching a power role and he said it's to little of a chance to lynch a power role and assured me it was the best thing to do so that why I changed my vote.
I still a little bit busy with Turkey day so I'm sorry for not posting much in the Night but damn it all we lost both our power roles T_T We need a miracle to win this game now :| I will do a new read once Turkey Day is complete as I still got my cousin and his wife and son at my house atm.
Okay since now that my cousin and his wife and son have left I can finally give you guys my current reads for the time being. Breshke: Town since he displaying the same kind of approach for today as he did in my last game when he was town.
Batsnacks: Null leaning town since he is acting close to the same way he did last game with me when he was a doctor but he been dodging questions from Oatsmaster and Half the Sky.
Damndred: Null leaning town since he was one of the major pushers for the lynching of DSIM without much of a good reason and been defending Batsnacks actions but at the same time he been giving losts of questions although DSIM didn't respond well to the questions.
Half the Sky: Town since he been giving good reasonings for his reads throughout the game although I don't like his case for Batsnacks being scum based on my own experience playing with Batsnacks in my last game.
sicklucker: Town because his posting style had pretty much stayed the same from the last game I played with him although he did looked very scummy in that game but he was just a Vanilla town and since our power roles had been lynched/killed I having a safe bet that sicklucker is town.
meatpudding: Null leaning town he had some decent questions after being gone for a while and now he claiming to have no power at his house it could be a scum move because one of the scums in my last game tried to pull that move but failed so perhaps meatpudding could scum.
alakaslam: null leaning scum since he not posted much of his reads but he also admitted to notread much of the thread during the time of us lynching DSIM but I need to see more posts of his though since he said he had to go earlier in the thread to confirm my suspicions.
Oatsmasters: Town since he been asking lots of questions to everyone and been trying to lead the discussion when he can which isn't a trait a scum member would do.
kushm4sta: Null leaning scum since he not been contributing a lot like his last scum game which was my last although he did give a couple questions to people he also didn't post much so I need to wait for him to post more so I can get a better read on him
rsoultin: Null leaning town since he trying to ask some questions and responding to questions he been asked by others although he did convence me to lynch DSIM that is haunting me because of my last game experience :|
On November 28 2014 12:56 LightningStrike wrote: Okay since now that my cousin and his wife and son have left I can finally give you guys my current reads for the time being.
Breshke: Town since he displaying the same kind of approach for today as he did in my last game when he was town.
Batsnacks: Null leaning town since he is acting close to the same way he did last game with me when he was a doctor but he been dodging questions from Oatsmaster and Half the Sky.
Damndred: Null leaning town since he was one of the major pushers for the lynching of DSIM without much of a good reason and been defending Batsnacks actions but at the same time he been giving losts of questions although DSIM didn't respond well to the questions.
Half the Sky: Town since he been giving good reasonings for his reads throughout the game although I don't like his case for Batsnacks being scum based on my own experience playing with Batsnacks in my last game.
sicklucker: Town because his posting style had pretty much stayed the same from the last game I played with him although he did looked very scummy in that game but he was just a Vanilla town and since our power roles had been lynched/killed I having a safe bet that sicklucker is town.
meatpudding: Null leaning town he had some decent questions after being gone for a while and now he claiming to have no power at his house it could be a scum move because one of the scums in my last game tried to pull that move but failed so perhaps meatpudding could scum.
alakaslam: null leaning scum since he not posted much of his reads but he also admitted to not read much of the thread during the time of us lynching DSIM but I need to see more posts of his though since he said he had to go earlier in the thread to confirm my suspicions.
Oatsmasters: Town since he been asking lots of questions to everyone and been trying to lead the discussion when he can which isn't a trait a scum member would do.
kushm4sta: Null leaning scum since he not been contributing a lot like his last scum game which was my last although he did give a couple questions to people he also didn't post much so I need to wait for him to post more so I can get a better read on him
rsoultin: Null leaning town since he trying to ask some questions and responding to questions he been asked by others although he did convence me to lynch DSIM that is haunting me because of my last game experience :|
Fixed up a format error I overlooked to make it easier for people to read and had to fix up a grammar error too.
On November 28 2014 12:56 LightningStrike wrote: Okay since now that my cousin and his wife and son have left I can finally give you guys my current reads for the time being. Breshke: Town since he displaying the same kind of approach for today as he did in my last game when he was town.
Batsnacks: Null leaning town since he is acting close to the same way he did last game with me when he was a doctor but he been dodging questions from Oatsmaster and Half the Sky.
Damndred: Null leaning town since he was one of the major pushers for the lynching of DSIM without much of a good reason and been defending Batsnacks actions but at the same time he been giving losts of questions although DSIM didn't respond well to the questions.
Half the Sky: Town since he been giving good reasonings for his reads throughout the game although I don't like his case for Batsnacks being scum based on my own experience playing with Batsnacks in my last game.
sicklucker: Town because his posting style had pretty much stayed the same from the last game I played with him although he did looked very scummy in that game but he was just a Vanilla town and since our power roles had been lynched/killed I having a safe bet that sicklucker is town.
meatpudding: Null leaning town he had some decent questions after being gone for a while and now he claiming to have no power at his house it could be a scum move because one of the scums in my last game tried to pull that move but failed so perhaps meatpudding could scum.
alakaslam: null leaning scum since he not posted much of his reads but he also admitted to notread much of the thread during the time of us lynching DSIM but I need to see more posts of his though since he said he had to go earlier in the thread to confirm my suspicions.
Oatsmasters: Town since he been asking lots of questions to everyone and been trying to lead the discussion when he can which isn't a trait a scum member would do.
kushm4sta: Null leaning scum since he not been contributing a lot like his last scum game which was my last although he did give a couple questions to people he also didn't post much so I need to wait for him to post more so I can get a better read on him
rsoultin: Null leaning town since he trying to ask some questions and responding to questions he been asked by others although he did convence me to lynch DSIM that is haunting me because of my last game experience :|
You can' honestly believe the bolded portion can you?
I said one of them since I had reread the stuff about DSIM and it looked it was you who pushed for it the hardest.
I don't know to tell you the truth because I way to inexperience to tell apart what is really scummy posts and what's not but if I had to guess it could be meatpudding and rsoultin.
On November 28 2014 13:01 Damdred wrote: Did you read my whole case on Dicksmash? Can you still say I didn't have a reason?
It wasn't exactly good reason since I felt like Dicksmash was new and so he just acted what many people considered scummy but I posted the same way my last game and got lynched when I was a Cop although I did defend myself a little better by role claiming. I guess shit happens in a noob game :|
On November 28 2014 13:04 LightningStrike wrote: I don't know to tell you the truth because I way to inexperience to tell apart what is really scummy posts and what's not but if I had to guess it could be meatpudding and rsoultin.
So your scum is Meatpudding, rsoultin, Kush and Slam?
It's 3 of those 4 since there is only 3 scum in this setup.
On November 28 2014 13:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Although a completely pointless list post is kinda making me feel weird.
Earlier in the thread I said when my cousin and his wife and son left as indicated in this post
On November 28 2014 07:17 LightningStrike wrote: I still a little bit busy with Turkey day so I'm sorry for not posting much in the Night but damn it all we lost both our power roles T_T We need a miracle to win this game now :| I will do a new read once Turkey Day is complete as I still got my cousin and his wife and son at my house atm.
I still trying to go with the veterans of TL Mafia as they have better scum reading than I do.
I just woke up after going to bed after my last post and I asked who my top 3 scum are and here is mine that are here meatpudding kushm4sta Alakaslam @rsoultin The only wagon at the time was Dicksmash McIroncock and other cases that wasn't well put out and few people who I felt was townie voted for Dicksmash McIroncock so sorry if I put it all on you but it was mainly your push to get me to vote kind of forced my hand :|
On November 28 2014 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Why did you use the phrase, forced your hand? That seems interesting.
I didn't have any good case at the time of the lynching of the Doctor and and since he told me to vote I was going to vote who I felt were townies in my opinion that's all I don't other phrases I could of used but I felt that phrase was the most appropriate for how I felt at the time.
On November 29 2014 02:03 rsoultin wrote: ##vote meatpudding
Just get this feeling if we vote bats, he's going to flip town.
Okay, lightning. I'll buy it, because legitimately I was specifically asking you the questions about why you didn't want to lynch Day 1 because it did seem fishy to me. It was part of my first post on the thread, asking people why that made any sense, before I remembered who'd even said it. You may very well have felt pressured to when I started questioning you about it and making the case for lynching day 1 as a policy.
That said...why? I'd outright said I got your explanation. Were you worried I'd start calling you scum if you didn't? Why would that worry you? You don't have a role if you're town. The players in the thread aren't following me (I originally was on slam, and only later switched to dicks). Half the people hear think I'm scummy or at the very least a jerk. Not a pied piper of awesome to mention a name and boom that person is lynched, lol. So what about what I said forced you to change your vote?
Just the pressure of you telling to me vote for a lynch so I did :|
On November 29 2014 04:34 rsoultin wrote: Lightning, man...that just sounds weak. If you weren't convinced and didn't want to, you simply shouldn't have. I wasn't after you with barrels loaded and even if I was...-shrugs- Nothing stopping you from telling me to go screw myself lol. Unless your issue is you think I "pressured" you to do it to get the vote on dicks.
You could have as easily voted for bats and made it a race. There was a case out against him and he had several votes. Never told you who to vote for. xP So I guess I'm just not following you.
I didn't see a case for him at the time to tell you the truth can you link me the original case for him from Day 1 please?
On November 26 2014 08:02 Trfel wrote: I'm becoming highly suspicious of batsnacks.
Looking at batsnacks' posts this game, it does seem like he hasn't contributed many reads or constructive comments at all. He has pressure voted kushm4sta, and tried to convince other people to vote for kushm4sta, as shown:
On November 25 2014 10:27 batsnacks wrote: I think you should all start voting kush since that's the most logical vote right now.
Then Oatsmaster starts hinting that he might be mafia, and he responds as follows:
On November 25 2014 12:25 batsnacks wrote:
On November 25 2014 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote: He has bad posts regarding a read ohf HTS, his policy lynch on kush is really bad and he is using that to avoid playing the game and doing actual useful things.
This isn't a read. None of oats' posts contain reads.
oats is play is like 80% asking questions that have already been answered and 20% badgering the host about issues he could fix himself.
If my plynch on kush is bad give me something better.
I've seen oats play a lot better than he is doing right now.
He just starts attacking Oatsmaster, without actually providing any argument against the accsusations.
It's been nearly 24 hours and I cannot find any critical thinking or logical reads from batsnacks. He has been only minimally probing for information, as well.
Now, examining batsnacks' mafia history, it seems to show similar, non-accusatory play as mafia, but an ability to logically provide arguments against people as town.
In Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2, his most recent mafia game, batsnacks was a mafia vanilla. His posts generally seem to lack content, for example this:
On October 23 2014 16:57 batsnacks wrote:
On October 23 2014 16:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 23 2014 14:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Fite me
You know it is time
Exact same amount of letter swapping sson
I only had to swap 2 letters, the A and the I. You have to swap 3, the N, O, and W. Plus you have an extra letter that doesn't even belong there.
Looks like I'm right about you. You're clearly reaching here.
batsnacks did give some analysis in saying that robik seemed to be town in that game, which ended up being correct. But he failed to provide specifics or any real evidence of this:
On October 24 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote: I think robik looks pretty solid. I like how he's posting; he's focused, not all caps, consolidated, no personal dramas, that stuff is what reminds me of hard to get along with robik. @DrParnassus what about robik this game seem hard to cooperate with? Could you quote an example? You did say -everything about the way he's playing- reminds you of that.
He also defends Liam from an accusation. Up to now, the only two real things he's said are claiming these two people to be town. At this point he is accused of being mafia, and this is his defense:
On October 24 2014 21:41 batsnacks wrote: I think I'm not a good lynch right now. For obvious reasons.
He continues to not provide any true defense or explanation for his actions, and ends up being lynched on the first day.
On October 06 2014 23:26 batsnacks wrote: Oats if you are in fact "contributing" shouldn't you be thanking me? I did enable these "contributions" of yours. I feel like you're annoyed with me for allowing you to contribute.
Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early?
You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally.
What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me?
I agreed with HF a lot last game and he was town. I'm agreeing with him this game already so, tentatively town.
I'm voting you because I think you're scummy.
Also lol at "accidentally"
You claimed on accident now?
batsnacks accuses Oatsmaster of being mafia in this game (which ends up being incorrect). But when he defends someone as being town, he provides some support for this claim, and also shares his views a bit.
On October 07 2014 08:07 batsnacks wrote: Wait a minute, something isn't right. I quoted all of the following from the same post.
On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote: ...there's roughly speaking 13 players, right? If 3 are scum, then that gives us a solid 22% chance of lynching scum purely based on RNG.
No townie in this game knows the ratio of town to mafia, so it is correct here that BH gives us an example ratio of 10/3 or 22% as an example.
But then later in that post he says this:
On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote: ...the fact of the matter is, I'm offering a straight-up 22% chance to lynch someone.
BH how do you KNOW there are exactly 3 mafia? I bolded fact because that's a serious word to throw around when you're supposedly working with estimates.
Here's a critical analysis of a post in that game. It doesn't result in anything, but this post has more logic and scum-searching than his play to this point in the current game, as well as his play in the first game I mentioned, where he was mafia.
On October 08 2014 02:24 batsnacks wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote: You had one job batsnacks. + Show Spoiler +
and then HF gave you another one.
Does it make you nervous that I've already figured out you're mafia?
Then he claims Hopeless1der to be mafia, which ends up being correct. I don't see any reasoning listed, though. This post also came after the first 24 hours of the game, unlike all of the other posts quoted here.
I did notice this inconsistency between his post in this game:
On November 25 2014 10:58 batsnacks wrote:There is no such thing as scum slips, so no, dude didn't scum slip.
and this:
On October 07 2014 08:29 batsnacks wrote:
On October 07 2014 08:19 Grackaroni wrote: You're implying that at the start of the post BH was careful not to slip that he had knowledge of the setup. (by pointing out that the number of scum is unknown) and then *slipped* that he was 100% sure there were 3 mafia within like 10 seconds of typing which is really unrealistic.
What I see is BH working off the assumption that random lynch provides at least 22% chance of hitting mafia compared to day 1 analysis which varies (and BH thinks is worse for catching mafia)
I think it's feasible that he slipped.
besides
The TL mafia database disagrees that random lynch is better. So by random lynching we 1) have worse odds of lynching mafia and 2) players who agree with the random lynch have zero accountability for their votes.
Why the change? Probably just a change in his playstyle, but another explanation is that he is searching for mafia in that game, and has less incentive to do so in this game.
Looking at batsnacks' play in the game preceding the above game, 2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er, batsnacks immediately comes up with a comprehensive look at GlowingBear:
On September 26 2014 08:14 batsnacks wrote: I'm not completely caught up yet but I still think GB is mafiawolf.
On September 25 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote: I think Storr is mafia because of this:
This post stinks:
On September 25 2014 09:20 StorrZerg wrote: (1) i'd lynch fecal for the donkey entrance to the game.
the overly troll attitude fecal has with the caps locks, and insta vote on holy is really throwing off scum vibes. Deff would lynch.
On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote: The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.
Lol I actually like your case holyflare
"yeah right"
Also i don't like the GB entrance to the game
On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote: Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now
(2)unless im missing a game he just played, last game he was scum. seems odd to lead with a lie.
(1) very has reason to call someone definetely scum. I did that no geript last game. There is nothing alignment indicative in fecal's entrance and that makes storr look bad.
(2) storr was scum with me and I clearly stated on the qt that I wanted to be town. I was mafia for 3 games and I wish I was town on this, which I am. I never lied.
The way he is disliking entrances looks like he is trying to pretend to be an aggressive town.
Also, he gives Haru free town pass for his entrance and also obiwan. None has alignment indicative posts.
On September 25 2014 10:11 StorrZerg wrote: obi probably town too.
I'm on a phone and I'm too lazy to search for the town pass on Haru now.
storr is my strongest scum read the moment
Here's his case on storr. He says storr is pretending to be aggressive town by disliking entrances. That is a weird thing to say. How can GB tell the difference between someone who is pretending to be aggressive town and someone who actually is aggressive town based on so few posts? Imo he can't and is just making stuff up.
He also scum reads storr for saying someone is "definitely" mafia and says he said the exact same thing as scum last game. Well, look at this:
On September 25 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote: Naaaah. I'm positive storr is scum. ##Vote: Storr
He did it again this game.
I also think this post is scummy:
On September 25 2014 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote: not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.
I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work)
Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information?
Lol...
HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me.
Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read.
That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction.
btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK. I'm gone for now, see you all later.
It can be shallow, but at least I'm the only one trying to get people talking. Nothing is in the way of updating my reads the more people starts to talk. If you lynch me, you'll be lynching a townie for stupid reasons and you'll soon lose the game as much as you lost our last one
The "at least" in that sentence is really scummy to me. It's a tone thing. It's like he's really saying "I'm mafia but at least I'm the only one trying to get people talking." It's also scummy how he says he's the -only- person getting people talking. GB made a case against HF earlier for dropping his case against HaruRH. I'm not a mind reader but I think HF made that case to get people talking. So GB is scum reading HF for trying to get people talking -- while saying he, GB, is the only contributor in the thread.
I also think this post is scummy:
On September 25 2014 10:18 GlowingBear wrote: Ok
Glowningbear's first scum team guess: Haru, HF, Storr
Gonna have dinner and give reasons
GB is referring to himself in the third person here in order to distance himself from his reads that he doesn't actually believe in. How can he be confident he's caught the whole scum team and solved the game? Later when he's drunk he posts this:
On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote: My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia
So now GB has found 4 mafia... HF is mafia for getting people talking with an early case, Haru is mafia for unflipped assosiations, storr is mafia because GB can tell somehow that storr is just pretending to be aggressive town, and JAT is mafia because ??? Speaking of reads, GB is frantic this game about "getting reads." He is addicted to reads and needs an intervention. He wants to convince us so badly that he is trying to get reads that he can not stop saying it:
On September 25 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote: It won't help me getting reads if you use day1 just to charge your solar beam.
On September 25 2014 09:46 GlowingBear wrote: Asking about holyflare's case to everyone is my way to get people talking and getting reads from them.
On September 25 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote: Why I think Haru is scum:
He doesn't want to talk much, not letting me getting reads:
On September 25 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote: Why not talking? He should be helping us with reads day1.
On September 25 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote: I'm done with the reads. I'm going to get ready for a party.
On September 25 2014 11:28 GlowingBear wrote: Because I want people talking about people so I can get reads.
On September 25 2014 13:09 GlowingBear wrote: Nothing is in the way of updating my reads the more people starts to talk.
On September 26 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote: Sorry, I'm guilty of getting people to talk to get my reads instead of immediately attacking both HF and hope.
On September 26 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote: I think that is good to register and to get reads.
On September 26 2014 00:49 GlowingBear wrote: Gut feelings VS actual reads. Actual reads won.
On September 26 2014 00:49 GlowingBear wrote: It could be totally wrong but at least I would get people talking more so I can have more reads
He's clearly thinking and investigating the posts, and trying to find the scum. Then he starts thinking that SkyDragon is scum:
On September 26 2014 08:18 batsnacks wrote: Also this post is really scummy:
On September 26 2014 01:07 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.
"His" is correct. :p
d1 claimers got lynched depending on what they were saying.
- If they claimed to be Town with nothing to back it up, they were seen as suspicious and people would vote to lynch them if their play-style doesn't match. - Throwing out names on the first day was seen as suspicious. - Feigning ignorance of a particular role was suspicious unless he weren't very bright in the first place (As one guy did when he asked the Mod in the thread whether getting no pm means that you're a Villager - We straight away knew that he was trying it, lynched him and he turned out to be Mafia) - Changing votes repeatedly was seen as suspicious. - Normally active players who become quiet were seen as suspicious.
There's no one answer to fit all situations really. There were also power roles so someone may have been saying something considered "weird" because they were the Seer, Doctor, Vigi or some other good role (And the last thing you want to do is get them lynched). There would be some hesitation to vote to lynch anyone on Day 1 but sometimes something is said that just doesn't feel right to several people.
It's a long post filled with info that makes zero conclusions about anything. Perfect mafia post. If I'm not voting GB today I'm voting skydragon.
He continues to press on GlowingBear and SkyDragon. Both end up being town, but batsnacks is showing that he is capable and willing to attempt to find scum and provide logical accusations that other players are scum.
In conclusion, batsnacks seems very suspcious because he has not yet provided any real content, particularly at least one accusation of someone being mafia with an argument behind it. This resembles his play in his last game, where he was mafia, and contrasts with his play in previous games where he was town. What do you guys think?
^ This all came from Trfel. Based on bats' play in previous games vice this one.
Currently, Dicksmash Mcironcock is set to be lynched.
Landslide you say? Okay if dicksmash wasnt totally uninterested in winning this game he would probably be voting for bats HIS SCUMREAD. so that leaves the votes at 4 to 6. That means it only takes one person to change their mines for it to be 5-5 with the vote being pushed over by afk slam. I'm really starting to not care what you think sick lucker i voted where i thought I should
^ Final vote count. If you'd chosen to go with batsnacks it would have been 5:4...and I do believe you voted before slam did (though that's based off memory) so long story short there was nothing inevitable about dicks being lynched Day 1 to say that my saying you should vote was paramount to forcing a lynch on dicks. -shrugs-
Wow how did I miss this big post from Tfrel o.o Although looking at the case now from Tfrel it does seem decent I got to say if we get meatpudding lynched today then we should look at bats case tomorrow and see if it's good.
On November 29 2014 05:10 sicklucker wrote: I already was the one who pushed obis meat train. I said if we were to policy lynch one of them it has to be meat because at least slam has a chance to contribute. This guys been useless. Hes #2 on my manditory 3 person lynch.
Im laying off pushing rsoultin now. Im also taking LS out of my town circle. Like Ls was not this passive last game and afraid to vote anyone he got himself lynched for voting too much. I get that he could be scared tho.
I scared because last game I did vote to much and got me lynched and I thought changing my vote a lot would be seem scummy so it just a lesson I learned from my last game that's all.
On November 29 2014 05:56 rsoultin wrote: Have to agree with SL, lightning. Your timidity has me wondering if you do have a role. Since it's obviously not a town one...
You lose nothing participating if you're town. So what gives?
Honestly let me ask you this question so you can get a glimpse of why I being very timid even as a VT
After what I went through in my last game I trying to be less aggressive as I was overly aggressive in my last game but perhaps I am playing to passive :| I guess I still need to find a happy middle ground but also since we lost both of our power roles I am scared as shit since I never had to play a game when we lost both of our power roles in the first 36 hours and I pretty clueless on how to scum read good when we got no power roles alive.
On November 29 2014 05:56 rsoultin wrote: Have to agree with SL, lightning. Your timidity has me wondering if you do have a role. Since it's obviously not a town one...
You lose nothing participating if you're town. So what gives?
After what I went through in my last game I trying to be less aggressive as I was overly aggressive in my last game but perhaps I am playing to passive :| I guess I still need to find a happy middle ground but also since we lost both of our power roles I am scared as shit since I never had to play a game when we lost both of our power roles in the first 36 hours and I pretty clueless on how to scum read good when we got no power roles alive.
EBWOP fixing my post as I didn't mean to put the first sentence there as I was trying to answer your question rsoultin
On November 29 2014 08:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Ls is changing mind. The post where he said we should lynch bats after meat does not make sense from a town pov why don't we lynch bats today? Dunno, he doesn't say. It reads like he is lining up lynches. + he keeps saying he is bad and it's annoying.
If you had read my my top 3 scum list that I had made per your request I had put Meatpudding in there first on my list and reading the case on bats I think if meatpudding ends up as scum I think bats would be our next lynch but that just me in my opinion and here was my last I made earlier in the thread
On November 28 2014 22:36 LightningStrike wrote: I just woke up after going to bed after my last post and I asked who my top 3 scum are and here is mine that are here meatpudding kushm4sta Alakaslam @rsoultin The only wagon at the time was Dicksmash McIroncock and other cases that wasn't well put out and few people who I felt was townie voted for Dicksmash McIroncock so sorry if I put it all on you but it was mainly your push to get me to vote kind of forced my hand :|
obviously my view changed now with the following as my current scum meatpudding batsnacks kushm4sta kush posts seems to not have any real substance at all and the same thing happened in my last game when he was scum so it's a high chance in my opinion he would be scum.
On November 29 2014 08:40 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways if you guys have questions for me I will be I don't know when but when I do I will try to answer them to the best of my abilities!
Could you explain to me why if meat flipped scum you think it would mean bats is scum or if you have already explained this you can just quote the post.
bats posting style was similar to meatpudding's posting style and if one of them flips scum the other in my theory would flip scum too but it just a theory I have that's all.
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On November 29 2014 09:30 Half the Sky wrote: Also Lightning, can you describe what you perceive to be the scumlike behaviour for Batsnacks, given your revised list?
I had read the case from our dead Tracker Trfel and it made lots of sense to me. First batsnacks was policy lynching kushm4sta at the start of the game and tried to push for his lynch but failed. Second after a comment by Oatsmaster on that we will lynch everyday after I suggested us to no lynch and went straight to Oatsmaster without much of real reason and then later on swaped his votes like 3 times back and forth between Oatsmaster and Dicksmash McIroncock then when Trfel questions him about why he changed his votes without much reason he then swaped his vote to Tfrel claiming it just easy to switch votes which screams null or scum but I know acted like this in his last game as a power role but since they are no power roles left but then again rsultin said that about me but I told him that I was over aggressive my last game and tried to play it more passive because I got lynched for being over aggressive in my voting and never played with no power roles alive and I was pretty much clueless on how to scum hunt good.
Before I go to bed I got question rsoultin,Breshke, and meatpudding What is your case on kushm4sta because I willing to change my vote if you guys give me a better case than the case on meatpudding as I got both them as my top scum.
Okay I woke up and been reading the cases brought by rsoultin and meatpudding and honestly I still scared and honestly I don't really buy the case on kush and my vote will still stand on meatpudding until Breshke can give me his reason for wanting to lynch kushm4sta. rsoultin let me ask you had you read my filter from my last game and looked at how that game ended? If not then looking in that game might be the clue you need to figure why I am so scared.
On November 30 2014 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote: completely untrue. You know what, im gonna stay on this just because half the sky takes no personal responsibility towards his voting and actions.
Wrong. LightningStrike pushed me earlier why I drove the push for DMSI. I took responsibility for voting him, absolutely but I explained my rationale for doing so.
I can confirm I did push you for driving the push for DMSI and you did take responsibility for voting him and you did had a good explanation in eyes for the push.
On November 30 2014 02:05 rsoultin wrote: No, I haven't. I won't. I don't meta-play. Maybe that's a mistake on my part, but I go by how people are playing now. And I go with logic (which also might be a mistake because not everyone plays logically).
However all you have to lose ls is you get lynched. If you're vanilla town that might help mafia win, but you have no role. If we all played like you no one would ever be lynched (not entirely true cause we'd all get mod-killed, but what, random voting based on nothing but instinct?) and we'd just be picked off one by one by mafia.
The point is you have no reason to be too scared to play. Plain and simple. No matter what happened last game. This is a game, you're not really going to die lol.
Fair enough I guess but my inexperience in TL mafia is showing pretty damn well T_T. Okay I will try to play more agressive and I had to ask you, meatpudding, and Breshke on your guys case on kush so I can compare that to my own and my conclusion was it was still a weak case overall. Unless Breshke gives a better reason for his case on kush I keeping my vote to meatpudding as it stands since I believe it's one of the stronger cases we got here although my bias for bats might be him driving my lynch last game and this game he wanted to live which is kind of odd I would say.
On November 30 2014 02:29 rsoultin wrote: What's your case on meat, ls?
That Oats likes meat for it? Cause to me that is about as weak as it gets, if that's all you've got.
meat posting seems scummy. First he wasn't trying to hunt scum and explained only on the different type of lynchings and the gave a weird post as follows
On November 26 2014 09:18 meatpudding wrote: Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being this.
Marry Breshke Bang HTS Trfel Kill Damdred sicklucker
Since he using not normal terminology he wouldn't explain it until multiple people asked him about it. Second he said he was having issue with his power at his home and my last game kush did the same defense and he ended up being scum so I think he higher chance of being scum because that. Third after awhile after a while he went on kush and I had to ask him for reasoning and I found it somewhat weak. But just before that he brought you off topic which is something I don't think a townie would do to anyone. I know my second reasoning might sound meta but it just from my experience in my last game that's all.
On November 30 2014 02:52 rsoultin wrote: Brought me off topic? I asked him the questions that had me reading him as scum. AFK alone is not enough for me for a scum read with so many other targets. He answered them enough for me. (the map isn't off-topic, I was checking his alibi )
Read filters ls. He mentioned early in the game that where he's played before they use Marry/Bang/Kill lists, and not answering questions could have been because he was typing up his reasoning for the list after using the list as a placeholder. He did answer. And there was no reason for him not to answer that question lol I'd be more concerned if it took him forever to explain his justifications for his list than what the titles meant.
It sounded off topic but I guess I didn't see you checking his alibi so my bad on not reading it good T_T
Okay rsoultin stuff is now not making sense after reading stuff that bats wrote on him and what Hopeless wrote on him and kush would not be a good lynch today so I suggest we go after rsoultin since he voted on me I guess it's time for my move. ##Unvote ##Vote rsoultin
Sorry for not posting in the Night I was still in shock that Kush got lynched when I tried to save T_T Kush if you read this I sorry I tried to save you but failed
On December 01 2014 07:14 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry for not posting in the Night I was still in shock that Kush got lynched when I tried to save T_T Kush if you read this I sorry I tried to save you but failed
Did you tho? All I saw was you sheeping bats. This is very scummy
I said earlier in the thread that kush was a bad lynch and there was no other person having close to majority until rsoultin/HTS were getting votes and I went for rsoultin until bats said go for HTS so I went for them for that other than rsoultin had a vote on me.
On December 01 2014 07:57 rsoultin wrote: Problem is I don't know if I trust my opinion. I did switch to dicks over bats, you're right, and I probably should have noticed it looked weird then, too. I could've sworn there was a time when bats had about 4 votes...but I'd have to find when that was and it might take a bit. Regardless, being wrong in the past doesn't make me wrong now.
I'd still rather be voting LS. Yes I'm still stuck on that. I still think he's contributed a whopping nada. He's also been after meatpudding's ass at least since Day 2, so either he's bussing meat, i'm wrong (along with most of the rest of the players), or we're going after the wrong person yet again. With so many uncontested votes on meat...
You're not getting why this feels off?
@ bats, why would it be bad if LS turns mafia, so bad he shouldn't be voted?
I think you are thinking of D2, but D1 i don't think bats ever achieved that many votes. Im not saying that this feels off because I agree with you it does but mafia could easily buss or just vote now (since its the very start of day) and change it later. I would feel a lot better about meatpudding if he came back to the thread.
I agree on LS. While he has been on meatpudding all game i think what he has posted most about was excuses on why he is playing timid or why the people he voted for are not his fault. Im honestly not sure if this is because he is scum or a new player though.
This is only my second game playing TL Mafia. My first game was Campus Mafia.
On December 01 2014 07:14 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry for not posting in the Night I was still in shock that Kush got lynched when I tried to save T_T Kush if you read this I sorry I tried to save you but failed
Did you tho? All I saw was you sheeping bats. This is very scummy
I said kush was a bad lynch although my reasoning was based around Damndred's posts on his town games I was convinced by him here proof I did say kush was a bad lynch
On November 30 2014 06:44 LightningStrike wrote: Okay rsoultin stuff is now not making sense after reading stuff that bats wrote on him and what Hopeless wrote on him and kush would not be a good lynch today so I suggest we go after rsoultin since he voted on me I guess it's time for my move. ##Unvote ##Vote rsoultin
I had a quick read of Ls filter and realized he didn't make a single read on day 1 and voted dicksmash not because he thought he was scum but because rsoultin reassured him it was a very low chance to hit a power role. After this first day he talks more about being scared which fits is more excuses for him not making or pushing reads which is scummy in my eyes.
I did make a couple of posts of my reads Day 1 and here is proof. 1.
On November 25 2014 13:00 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back from playing Pokemon Trading Card game with some friends and went to a late dinner at Red Robin so sorry about my activity T_T Breshke just seems to be mad at sicklucker for what happened in our previous game :O Batsnacks lost his mind or he is scum trying to go after kush but kush didn't post anything just yet so I don't got a read on kush. Oatsmaster is town in my eyes as he is being very constructive on the agenda for Day 1. Are we allow to sleep on anyday because I remember in my last game we had slept for 1 day and I wondering if we are allowed to becausee personally I don't think Day 1 lynching is a good idea because of possible afks or just having horrible reads.
What else do you think? And whos scum?
I think Trfel is just a new town player because his post although giving answers to why he scum reading HTS. Also he followed up to clarify his post thoughts from his previous post from Page 10 and is trying to give a good reason for his reads. HTS seems null as his actions seems questionable on his post about Breske and sicklucker policy lynching but he also said he was new to TL mafia so maybe it just his lack of experience in TL mafia just showing up now. rsoultin seems to be scum as his posts were not much content but then again it was our very first day of the game so the reads not be good at the moment as he posted very little.
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On November 26 2014 06:15 LightningStrike wrote: I was just wating for more posts to get some better reads that why I haven't posted much because there was really much for me to ready. I still waiting for alakaslam, Dicksmash McIroncock, and Meatpudding to post. My reads are atm the following Town: Oatsmaster, sicklucker, Damdred, kushm4sta, Trfel Null: Half the Sky, Breshke, Alakaslam Scum: Dicksmash McIroncock, Meatpudding. Dicksmash didn't post anything after his first post for the day and Meatpudding is either trolling us with the stuff he posted earlier or he scum but time will tell. Alakaslam at least gave a good explanation for his posts. Breshke gave a explanation on why he voted for sicklucker Half the Sky made some decent posts but it reads null in my eyes but I still kind of new to TL Mafia (2nd game in TL mafia).
On December 01 2014 23:10 Half the Sky wrote: Rasputin, that's brutal. Get a good rest, that.
Lightning, do you have any explanation for why you voted the way you did EoD D2? Can you expand upon the first part of your first vote (the bolded part)?
On November 30 2014 06:44 LightningStrike wrote: Okay rsoultin stuff is now not making sense after reading stuff that bats wrote on him and what Hopeless wrote on him and kush would not be a good lynch today so I suggest we go after rsoultin since he voted on me I guess it's time for my move. ##Unvote ##Vote rsoultin
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
Asking a question isn't scummy. Neither is not reading the thread. Either alignment can ask questions, either alignment can miss something in the thread.
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
So what? You're just paraphrasing what happened. This isn't a reason.
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
Kush voted me because I was policy voting him. I unvoted kush, which is why kush voted me. Therefore kush no longer has a reason to vote me. This is a perfectly logical procession of events.
On November 30 2014 06:21 rsoultin wrote: Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all.
Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer.
On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote: Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.
Has yet to do so.
Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.
I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.
As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.
Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.
You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...
And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.
And you conveniently left out the context for the list...
On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote: Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.
Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals: - first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs- - asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post - tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke - changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted - gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post) - jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks - calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred) - says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats - says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town - repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)
less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?
that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats
Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that.
So is that post about why kush is scum or not because you've contradicted yourself 3 times in the last 3 posts?
On November 30 2014 06:21 rsoultin wrote: Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all.
Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer.
On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote: Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.
Has yet to do so.
Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.
I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.
As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.
Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.
You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...
And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.
And you conveniently left out the context for the list...
On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote: Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.
Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals: - first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs- - asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post - tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke - changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted - gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post) - jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks - calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred) - says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats - says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town - repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)
less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?
that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats
Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that.
So is that post about why kush is scum or not because you've contradicted yourself 3 times in the last 3 posts?
Bats, gonna dropkick you again. The post that you edited parts out of is about kush being scum. The list that you chose to quote without the rest of the post was what content I could glean out of the 3 pages of posts in his filter at the time of the post.
On November 30 2014 06:02 rsoultin wrote: For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day.
The first post on it by bats was convincing enough for me after reading it over and the last 2 posts were the cherry on top for you to be scum. If meatpudding turns out to be scum then there is a large chance you are scum with him. I swap to HTS because no one was chaning their vote to you so the next best lynch to do to save kush was HTS but htat failed.
On December 01 2014 23:10 Half the Sky wrote: Rasputin, that's brutal. Get a good rest, that.
Lightning, do you have any explanation for why you voted the way you did EoD D2? Can you expand upon the first part of your first vote (the bolded part)?
On November 30 2014 06:44 LightningStrike wrote: Okay rsoultin stuff is now not making sense after reading stuff that bats wrote on him and what Hopeless wrote on him and kush would not be a good lynch today so I suggest we go after rsoultin since he voted on me I guess it's time for my move. ##Unvote ##Vote rsoultin
On November 30 2014 06:58 LightningStrike wrote: Roger Bats ##unvote ##vote: Half the Sky
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-
Not scummy. Voting someone who is trying to policy lynch you is a pretty reasonable response... you seem to think so too.
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
Asking a question isn't scummy. Neither is not reading the thread. Either alignment can ask questions, either alignment can miss something in the thread.
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke
It was scummy. omgusing is usually scummy.
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted
Kush changing votes is not scummy, especially if he gives reasons when asked. Giving reasons when asked is actually townie.
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)
Arguing for who you think is town is not scummy.
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
Kush gave those reasons BEFORE damdred's train.
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)
Not providing reasons for reads is bad.
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
So what? You're just paraphrasing what happened. This isn't a reason.
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
Kush voted me because I was policy voting him. I unvoted kush, which is why kush voted me. Therefore kush no longer has a reason to vote me. This is a perfectly logical procession of events.
- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)
On November 30 2014 06:21 rsoultin wrote: Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all.
Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer.
On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote: Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.
Has yet to do so.
Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.
I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.
As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.
Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.
You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...
And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.
And you conveniently left out the context for the list...
On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote: Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.
Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals: - first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs- - asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post - tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke - changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted - gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post) - jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks - calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred) - says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats - says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town - repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)
less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?
that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats
Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that.
So is that post about why kush is scum or not because you've contradicted yourself 3 times in the last 3 posts?
On November 30 2014 06:21 rsoultin wrote: Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all.
Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer.
On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote: Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.
Has yet to do so.
Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.
I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.
As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.
Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.
You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...
And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.
And you conveniently left out the context for the list...
On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote: Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.
Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals: - first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs- - asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post - tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke - changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted - gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post) - jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks - calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred) - says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats - says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town - repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)
less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?
that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats
Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that.
So is that post about why kush is scum or not because you've contradicted yourself 3 times in the last 3 posts?
Bats, gonna dropkick you again. The post that you edited parts out of is about kush being scum. The list that you chose to quote without the rest of the post was what content I could glean out of the 3 pages of posts in his filter at the time of the post.
On November 30 2014 06:02 rsoultin wrote: For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day.
The first post on it by bats was convincing enough for me after reading it over and the last 2 posts were the cherry on top for you to be scum. If meatpudding turns out to be scum then there is a large chance you are scum with him. I swap to HTS because no one was chaning their vote to you so the next best lynch to do to save kush was HTS but that failed.
Okay I will explain my sheeping since I woke up. I did sheep in my last game too till I got lynched and when I was in the OBS qt for that game after death I swore after one player that died who called sicklucker town sicklucker was scum because afterwards his posting seemed to be scum like at the time. I was shocked to learn he really was town and so I don't really trust my own judgement still after that game so I was going with the Veterans of TL mafia for voting unless I get a power role that can detect alignments aka Cop/Detective or Tracker/Watcher. That's all I can say about my sheeping. Read my filter from the Campus Mafia for proof of my sheeping in that game.
On December 02 2014 22:38 Breshke wrote: LS who would you be voting for if meat wasnt an option and why? same question for you meat but change your name with LS obviously.
rsoultin because I truly believe he is scum because of his actions on Day 1 and 2 combined I started to think he is scum towards the end of Day 2 when he called HTS a Vanilla Town which I would say is a scum slip and later on he started look scummier by the post in my eyes.
On December 02 2014 22:38 Breshke wrote: LS who would you be voting for if meat wasnt an option and why? same question for you meat but change your name with LS obviously.
rsoultin because I truly believe he is scum because of his actions on Day 1 and 2 combined I started to think he is scum towards the end of Day 2 when he called HTS a Vanilla Town which I would say is a scum slip and later on he started look scummier by the post in my eyes.
If you can give me a reason that isn't echoing bats I'll entertain that you've had a single original idea in this game. Here's a start. Which actions on Day 1 and Day 2? When did I call HTS a Vanilla Town? Your defense was bats' posts before. Now what he said again. Give me something original, LS. Please.
Here is when you called HTS Vanilla Town
On November 30 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote: i'd have no reason to hammer him if you believe hts is town and i'm mafia. I wouldn't put myself out there fighting over 2 vanilla towns -shrugs-
Also earlier in the thread I made the motion of not lynching at Day 1 you questioned on it and I gave you valid reasons based on my experience from my last game then you told me lynching is better which seems to me you were trying to bus me around as a newer player and that was the same behavior 1 of the scum did to me last game then all of day 2 you were bussing me around still and later on justifying your case on kush you used the little posting excuse on why you want to lynch him which seems scummy because I know people like me sometimes don't post much at all and later it turns out kush was town and you tried to blame it on Damndred and bats in this post
On November 30 2014 10:03 rsoultin wrote: Yup, I'm at a loss. I honestly wanted ls and just didn't think it was hts over kush...damdred and bats coming after me had me almost convinced they were the scum team lol. Now I'm not sure if we're just all off our rocker and scum is sitting back and laughing or what. Meh.
Normally scum players could put blame on someone who seemed scummy at the time and this for me is the final reason for voting you other then you voted on me.
EBWOP I meant you bussed me for longer than a town player would normally bus a player with you bussing me for about 68 hours when a town wouldf only bus for at least 24 hours max and you went longer than that.
You guys will definitely will regret lynching me when you see that I was a Vanilla Town and it will lead to the Lynch or Lose which I don't think any of you guys want.
Also when I get lynched may my soul haunt you guys till the end of this game when you see I was a Vanilla Town until death by you guys hunger for noobs blood.
On December 03 2014 06:05 Breshke wrote: Why is oats and hopeless null
Hopeless wasn't posting a lot but when he did it wasn't really constructive posts but I wish to see more posts from him to determine if he was scum or not. Oats because it just a gut feeling I have of him being the Veteran Scum player since I would think BH would make 1 of the scum players a veteran player.
On December 03 2014 06:21 Breshke wrote: So if you have a gut feeling oats is scum isnt he scum not null. The mafia team is also selected at random so that souldn't be apart of your read.
Why are you reading bats as town?
bats defending me a lot this game although I feel it's because of his guilt for driving the lynch of me last game and normally townies do defend newer players a lot at least what I seen. As I said it just a gut feeling my feeling say scum but I can see him as town too so that's why I said null.
On December 03 2014 06:38 rsoultin wrote: ...heh if you do flip scum LS I've got to give you this, you do have a good helpless act. I've had a couple doubts, but did you really forget you just said bats was town a couple posts ago?
On December 03 2014 06:21 Breshke wrote: So if you have a gut feeling oats is scum isnt he scum not null. The mafia team is also selected at random so that souldn't be apart of your read.
Why are you reading bats as town?
bats defending me a lot this game although I feel it's because of his guilt for driving the lynch of me last game and normally townies do defend newer players a lot at least what I seen. As I said it just a gut feeling my feeling say scum but I can see him as town too so that's why I said null.
On December 03 2014 06:47 Breshke wrote: rsoultin he is explaining his read on oats in that second bit
LS you can still not be lynched convince us meat is scum? i almost want to switch onto hopeless but i dont think there is enough people here or it is a good idea.
I sorry but I would need like a hour to prepare for the case for him and it's EoD so sorry
Hey can I put this as my last post or does it break the rules? BTW this truly my 2nd game of TL Mafia so sorry for being a noobie I hope my next game I do better! Scum team is who you think is not scum First time playing as scum ever it been a blast I just wish I had lived this long as a Cop not as a scum
I think the issue for our team was mainly slam having irl troubles happening which wrecked us so hard and I never played scum before and I think this was meats first scum game too so we kind of had ot little experience on the scum team
I had to frame bats for the shake of my team and got rid of Trfel to cause chaos Day 2 to get someone that was scum reading him to be lynched Day 2 but it mostly failed in the end