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On January 20 2015 14:03 geript wrote: TBH any non-Trfel medic here should claim on D3. Makes them guess who to RB or are forced to RB LS and guess.
Is that ment to say shouldn't?
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wait never mind i misread it
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On January 20 2015 14:09 jarjarbinks wrote: I'm back guys. Sorry Day1 took a lot out of me. Just caught up and went through GB's filter to see if I could find some gems.
I feel like the mafia killed GB for a good reason. I've posted a few and gone over them. You might think this is fluff. Maybe my thoughts are fluffy lol
1. Very suspicious of Geript. IF Geript is mafia, GB would have probably kept going after him if kept alive. This also makes sense as to why Geript is still alive. Geript got a little questioning but not much after persuading almost everyone to vote Waffle. At the end he was still trying to comprehend how DP 100% thought Geript is town. This is something to take note of later.
2. Was suspicious of Trfel/LM. Trfel is obviously scum, so there was some merit there. In that same post he mentions DP. Which leads to the conundrum. If Geript and DP know each other so well, one should at least be a little suspicious of the other right (if one of them is mafia)? Geript and DP, please look back at the others play and MAKE SURE you aren't being fooled. You guys are vets, your opinions will bear more weight than people like me.
3. Ended up HARD TOWNING Shining. I think some other people (could be wrong here) had been suspicious of Shining, which could have led to a mislynch. We can't really do those much anymore.
4. Thought I was telling the truth about being the tracker and DEFENDED ME. A LOT. I AM THE FREAKING TRACKER. Please stop doubting me!
I think the biggest thing that got him killed was his thoughts on Trfel. That being said, there was probably a few other things he was looking into that got him killed as well. Rsoultin was hard on Trfel and she's still alive (and everyone thinks she's town). I am not saying he knew everything. But he was killed for a reason. PLEASE DONT FORGET THAT.
While you could be right with everything you say i find that it is fairly wifom. Dont get me wrong you should remember dead peopels reads but do mafia kill someone who is town reading a mafia to make that read eternal? Or do they keep them alive so they have someone in their corner?
I also assume if all power roles are legit mafia were hunting the cop which doesn't really make sense because you'd think GB would have claimed if he was cop considering he was a wagon near EoD but they might've seen something i havn't
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@ Jarjar who is your top 3 lynches other than trefel.
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On January 20 2015 14:44 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 14:37 Breshke wrote: @ Jarjar who is your top 3 lynches other than trefel. I'll rank them. 1. LM- The lurky mafia of the group. Was scumming me after I felt mafia knew I was blue. A lot of people had talked about them. I voted for LM before forced to leave and I'll stick to it for now. The Trfel vote on LM worries me, but I could see him doing that to throw people like me off. 2. Breshke- GB was suspicious of you, I'm suspicious of you. You were on me after I felt mafia knew I was tracker. 3. Geript- I could see Geript pulling off killing Waffle as mafia and thinking he could get away with it. Plus GB didn't like him. 4. DP- This is more based on what other people have said about DP being the #3 if LM and Trfel are Scum.
Why does it make geript mafia for putting the lynch onto WW considering it was GB set to be lynched who we know is town.
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On January 21 2015 08:20 jarjarbinks wrote: Although it is worth noting that LM recently had put my vote tally to four right before the Geript switch. Not specifically RIGHT before, but a few minutes before.
I'm not really buying this tinfoil theory on geript trying to get you lynched by switching to WW. I think he could have easily just switched to you pre claim instead of having to have so many things fall into place.
I also really don't think geript is mafia. I still need to reread him but the fact that he is town reading me or at least not wanting to lynch me like im not in his team of three makes me think he is more likely town. This is because thread sentiment right now is that LM is mafia and the third is me/DP. Geript however has had a town read on DP that he is fairly sure he is right on so the path of least resistance for him would be to scum read me. That isn't the case though as his scumteam instead has damdred in it.
I do need to look into him however because assuming he would take the path of least resistance is scum is not always going to be correct especially if he is a vet or good player or whatever.
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The only problem is if LS is fake and red checked a partner then we lynch trfel. A doc claims D3 and we only have 2 mislynches until we lose so we could theoretically lynch jarjar and the doc incorrectly. But that seems like a very thought out play and im not sure if mafia goes for it.
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On January 21 2015 11:02 Trfel wrote: After I die, PLEASE lynch LightningStrike.... Don't lynch jarjarbinks. He is new, but he isn't scum. Seriously, read his play from last game and you will understand. His filter looks fine to me.
Why would we lynch even think of lynching jarjar if you flipped green which i what i assume you are trying to sell.
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So its true that i havn't properly analysed the shining but not from lack of trying. I actually find his filter hard to read and i don't actually know why. I do think his interaction with GB was townie though wanting his question answered as pushing it because it shows to me he wanted information. So i actually have him as a town lean.
This leads me to think my PoE was shiter than i thought it was.
On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.
LM could you explain the bolded to me?
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Already am LS!
Hahaha true, still that wasnt entirely your fault we shouldn't have lynched you.
LS have you looked much at trfels filter our insight would be fairly useful as you are basically confirmed.
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On January 22 2015 07:57 jarjarbinks wrote: Hmm good call.
Should we both pick the same person tonight? One of us will probably be blocked but one of us will definitely go through.
One will probably be blocked the other might be killed so it probably wont matter. If they weren't going to do that i think theyd block LS then kill whoever because if you are the tracker which is more and more likely your role isn't as strong as cop and a green report from you or whatever doesn't mean as much.
That being said it isnt really worth talking about this stuff or deciding who you are both going to use your roles on because it is giving mafia more information just use your best judgement.
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So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on.
On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.
The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.
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On January 22 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 07:32 Breshke wrote:So its true that i havn't properly analysed the shining but not from lack of trying. I actually find his filter hard to read and i don't actually know why. I do think his interaction with GB was townie though wanting his question answered as pushing it because it shows to me he wanted information. So i actually have him as a town lean. This leads me to think my PoE was shiter than i thought it was. On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel. LM could you explain the bolded to me? I know you said you don't know exactly why his filter/posts are hard to read, but could you try to put it into words for me, Bresh? I ask because for whatever reason he keeps...slipping my notice. If that makes any sense. Usually something stands out to me, and I'll engage with that person, but by and large Shining has not engendered that response. Maybe if you can articulate it I can figure out why that keeps happening lol.
ehh, the posts feel kind of robotic too me but thats not alignment indicative. I also think more words are used than are encessary if that makes sense like I believe he could be more to the point as well. I also find that he says a lot of "good" things but nothing really controversial (this is the hardest bit for me to explain.) Like i dont think he has been trying to work out allighments. LM has been one of his top scums and he really hasn't pushed or suspected anyone else except for GB at some point. He even admits he hasn't really looked through LM's filter. I don't know if this is scummy or lazy town though because i did really like his interaction with GB.
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On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on. On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel. The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense. The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered. The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?
What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.
At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.
On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote: rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice? I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated. I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion. I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol. Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why. I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh. Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today. Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons. I need to reread Damdred and geript.
On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote: It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM? Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?
Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?
On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote: Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.
Town Rsoultin JarJar Geript
Town lean The shining
Null Damdred DP
Scum LM
Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 19 2015 06:38 Damdred wrote: All a sudden GB realizes the truth. On January 19 2015 06:40 Damdred wrote: You guys should trust in ny read that GB is town On January 19 2015 06:42 Damdred wrote: GB get me out instead save yourself here. On January 19 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote: This is great shining says damdred and lm are lynched. Votes GB. Pure Scum On January 19 2015 06:45 Damdred wrote: There's probably two Scum on GB wagon at this point
In the spoiler is a part of the thread where i started reading damdred really town. Like it was fairly obvious GB was town there and these reactions seem so towny to me. In retrospect after realizing damdred wasn't in that much danger of being lynched I remember the vibe i was getting in the thread was that it WAS going to be one of GB or damdred. Basically damdred is in my null now because even if at the time i thought he was going to be lynched it wasn't actually true so it isn't enough anymore.
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On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote: Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow
I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea.
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On January 23 2015 08:31 Damdred wrote: I think I was in real danger of getting lynched, before GB went towards the don't kill damdred zone, jarjar was going to vote me I believe and rs was thinking about it. Sojust because votes end one way doesn't make it so.
I gotta think But lm should be lynched then IDK gotta decide
Yeah i agree with what you are saying but I don't think i should rely on that so much for a town read. What do you think of DP?
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On January 23 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 08:32 Breshke wrote:On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote: Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea. Why?
I'd rather if people read and make their own opinions and if they end up agreeing with me that's fine.
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On January 23 2015 08:54 jarjarbinks wrote: This is about Trfel voting Geript at the beginning.
Do you guys think that Trfel would try to bus BOTH of his mafia bro's? I would definitely hope not. Especially right out of the gate. I could see him bussing one and maybe joining a lynchtrain on the other, but trying to kill off both your buddies seems messed up to me.
If geript turns mafia, PLEASE don't let me be mafia with Trfel lol
But anyways, what are your thoughts on this rsoultin? Think that possibly gives any towncred to geript if LM does turn scum? Definitely an if statement lol
Scum is told the setup so they would have known there was two investigative roles so i think it is possible if not likely that scum busses both partners (maybe not the roelblocker) because you would want to distance from your team.
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@JJB am i correct in assuming you scumread LM?
What do you think of the fact that basically no one disagrees with this?
Feel free to answer this aswell RSo.
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