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Read the OP. Titanic games have always been quite balanced and close (except for the last 2). | ||
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On February 12 2015 07:18 Blazinghand wrote: wait, have I actually hit scum 22% of the time? cause if so that'd be sweet in the games have been in 0%. but itäs gonna be a pleasure to play with you! ^^ | ||
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On February 12 2015 10:23 Blazinghand wrote: 0%? then I'm definitely due for it to work now don't worry if you "hit" twce you are in the range! | ||
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Townies do not fear getting copped. Also blazinghand probably is mafia. | ||
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Now watch some dumbass idiot lynch him when i am dead. | ||
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Are you forging that read on vayne? The one besides rng? | ||
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On February 14 2015 17:04 IAmRobik wrote: oh hi rayn i already called va town. can you give me some reads that aren't sheeped off of mine? Everyone looks more or less town other than hts-bh-lian. So whie i am not "sheeping" anything no, i can't. | ||
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They never should. | ||
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You get lynched if you do. | ||
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On February 14 2015 17:15 IAmRobik wrote: she fears being checked by cop? 1) i don't think that's particularly scummy 2) i don't know why you scum read that instead of for the reasons I outlined in my previous posts 1) of course it is. 2) i haven't read her posts since the miller claim so idk | ||
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Although i don't get why you are questioning me for pushing your seemingly mafia target? | ||
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##summon palmar | ||
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No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... | ||
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On February 14 2015 19:00 Palmar wrote: hey guys. Did someone find the mafia yet? Yeah you just have to read 5 first posts in the game and there is it. | ||
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Can you elaborate? Superbia couldn't. | ||
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On February 14 2015 19:51 Palmar wrote: I don't think I need to elaborate? The sentence "You are mafia" is perfectly clear? Well first of all it is a lie and second i cannot think of a reason anyone should read me as scum so it probably makes you mafia then. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:13 Palmar wrote: Do you think the miller claim means hts is mafia rayn? Yes. Not 100% but more than likely. I am lynching that anyways. I don't see a reason for claiming as town because your job is to look townie ny your actions, something that is not expected from mafia. But townies do not fear getting cop checked. Because cops are supposed to check scummy playwers and you should not think youare scummy as town. The claim represents fear of being viewed as mafia, which... See above. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:21 Palmar wrote: And you don't care that the last million times this was done, the claimer has been town? Not a single bit. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:22 Palmar wrote: So basically this is why I called rayn mafia. I'm reading the game backwards so I hadn't seen at the time the point where he actually does say it's a policy lynch. It is extremely scummy to try and justify policy lynches as something other than policy lynches. If we lynch HTS, it's a policy lynch for claiming miller. I personally hate millers claiming on day 1, and in theory agree with policy lynching them, recent games basically make it a dumb move to act on. I'm not saying we give HTS a pass, just that we ignore the claim and treat her like anyone else. So I basically called rayn mafia because I believed he was trying to say HTS was mafia for something that absolutely does not make her mafia. It makes her the target of a policy lynch, and of course she might be mafia. But the claim is not a reason to call her mafia. 1) HTS claimed miller and therefore she is mafia <---- wrong 2) HTS claimed miller which is a mafia favored move so we should policy lynch her <--- right That's the difference. Trying to make policy lynch something it isn't basically makes rayn mafia. The problem is, I'm reading the game backwards so I hadn't seen on the previous page rayn actually calls it a policy lynch, which makes it much less bad. The bolded is what i am saying. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:28 Blazinghand wrote: ok I get it you got a general policy of lynching miller claims. I can respect that. How about a policy voting pact? If my RNG lynch is close to winning and your miller push isn't working, you vote for VA today? No chance i am voting for VA, he is town. | ||
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There is 4 scum. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:31 Palmar wrote: tbh FF is kinda town for being the only one to get excited about me calling rayn mafia. Why would that make him town assuming you are town and i am town? Easiest thing to contribute on when a townie calls anotherone scum... | ||
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SK isn't scum in my world but ok. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:31 Blazinghand wrote: OK sorry this was adumb reply better reply "why do you think he's town? is it really just based on lame meta speculation that town VA is lazy, or is there something more to it? please be detailed and explain in yoru own words." No it's based on awesome meta read that has been accurate since forever. | ||
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I just need to check something when i get to my hotel. Can't post properly and too lazy to operate without laptop. | ||
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I am making a semi yolo read of you being town based on how you approached to the game so far. I also really wanted to play with DP in slytherin but that didn't work out and i kinda don't work too well with the rest of the people i know well in this game. Okay? | ||
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Long time no see. Did you roll town? | ||
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You have been mafia (thug life) and town (the game i dont remember -- around october mby). Both times you called me scum for somerhing you werent sure of. On both times i hit you back and it ruined the thread and i still couldn't lynch you. I think you -- as mafia -- would have... idk... been more "unreasonable" because it "wouldn't make you scum". But you were reasonable and actually wanted to work it out instead of getting into two way tunnelfest. Hope you get what i mean. | ||
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On February 14 2015 23:15 prplhz wrote: no i rolled mafia so please help me with the blue hunting. for realsies? why these players? (1) staph please (2) yes, he isn't doing anything productive (3) because they are people who are good at this shit from the people i know in this game. If they are town the town circle cannot be broken and game becomes ez. If they are scum better get rid of them before they get rid of us townies in those players. | ||
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On February 14 2015 23:19 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and saw the RNG lynch plan by BH involving VA and saw Palmar been talking with Palmar about HTS's Miller claim. I also not liking Superbia but it might be paranoia because the last I played with him it was my very first game on TL and he was Mafia and I called him out for his opening being really scummy and I feeling the same way this game. Hmmmmm. I have the exact same feeling. You can have a townie pass sir. | ||
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He has games where he has trolled at the start of the game as both alignments but it is a bit different from what i see as town or as scum. When he is trolling as town he is just fucking trolling and not saying anything that can be taken seriously as where as in mafia he tries to be like "semi-serious" where, besides trolling, he is trying to "put something out there" to look like he is contributing in some way. I feel like this game is a lot closer to his trolly games as scum than his trolly games as town. This is not a conclusive read but he should definitely be watched closely. | ||
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On February 14 2015 23:59 rsoultin wrote: Since we're policy lynching I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring until I have something better than BH's 30% xP Do you want to policy lynch or do you not? Your "rng lynch" as you put it is not an rng, it is a lynch on BH because of his rng. So it is not a policy lynch (as per your words) nor is it a scum lynch. So what the fuck is it? A way to not contribute to anything that's going on in the game? | ||
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There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:04 LightningStrike wrote: Also rayn had you checked out HTS's games when she rolled Mafia? If I can link them to you if you want them since you calling her mafia. No i don't care about meta in this instance. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:05 rsoultin wrote: Got me there. Now answer me the real question: does he or does he not do this as either alignment? Or, in this game, any alignment? does. so what does that have to do with anything? like you arte making a super dumb argument in which the conclusion is null. there is no reason to argue about this. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:06 LightningStrike wrote: Ok don't say I didn;t offer you meta Also what you think of rsoultin atm? i think i am blessed with a hotel room i can smoke cigarettes in... Otherwise it would be only little play and much of nerve relaxing cig breaks. | ||
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Right now i don't consider him strongly on either side. I consider him dumb town or dumb scum who should -- if he is town -- start talking about the real game instead of dumb stuff. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote: Then do I or do I not have exactly the same percent chance of catching scum by policy lynching BH as he does by RNGing a lynch? If my argument is dumb, so is his xP And you're dumb for arguing it with me. A whole thread full of dumb dumbs ^^ Last post about this,. I am not arguing you are not allowed to vote for BH as a policy. I am arguing about the fact you used RANDOMIZED as a part of your reasoning for voting for him which is 100% invalid. | ||
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On February 14 2015 15:34 Half the Sky wrote: Based on what marvellosity said in Horn (and he was town), you typically want to claim it as soon as you can. Which I did as I was here at game start. Later claims of it by any player are more suspicious (though I realise right now a number haven't entered thread yet). And this is the first time I've RNGed that role, so I am going off that. This has to be incorrect. It just has to be. marv would never say this, ever!!!! second: On February 14 2015 14:41 Half the Sky wrote: I also understand VA is another player who is cited as a good scum player. Does jack all in his town games (from my experience, NYE Party mafia and Void) D1 but I'm seeing 3 posts so far in his first 20-odd minutes. He actually plays as scum, from what I was told in that Void obs qt....so I'm thinking a tentative scum read on VA based on meta.... Robik/Slam/Ritoky any thoughts on this? Explain this meta-read. In like every bit of detail you can, from the games you have read him as scum and town and how does it compare to this game. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote: Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? My thoughts is you are not reading the thread very well and it makes you mafia even more. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:18 rsoultin wrote: Dumb argument lol ^^ It's an RNG scumread. He's making up his reasons, anyway xP see this guy is reading the thread. | ||
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but also the last post is really good. i 100% agree. | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:26 Blazinghand wrote: Of course. I don't know the dude's meta at all, but people will probably buy it; people aren't very bright. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote: does anybody know what's going on in this thread i do, do you want a recap or read by yourself? | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote: Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this. town | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 On February 15 2015 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 On February 15 2015 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 On February 15 2015 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 On February 15 2015 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 | ||
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geez i guess BH was right. RAYN: BH ARE YOU FORGING THE READ ON VAYNE BESIDES RNG? BH: OF COURSE I AM RAYN! ...... | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:34 Palmar wrote: lol | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote: Why is robik mad at LS for being LS? idk. doesn't make it any better considering the fact LS is town. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote: I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/ ummm.. i think that's the basis of this game no? | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:38 Palmar wrote: You have so many concrete reads that maybe you should just make a list post. 2. Half the Sky - scum 3. ritoky - leaning town, but meh, not sure 4. VayneAuthority - totes town 5. liancourt - probably scum 6. Town Puppy - not posted or i have missed it 7. IAmRobik - undecided, 51% town 8. rsoultin - town, should stop derailing the thread though 9. LightningStrike - town 10. KelsierSC - scum 11. Palmar - town 12. Alakaslam - town 13. prplhz - idk, you tell me? 14. Blazinghand - not sure, maybe town because mafia is pushing him 15. Superbia - scum 16. Breshke - town 17. Fecalfeast - town, but only 72% | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote: prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues? I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. and please first read on me if i may suggest! blue or not? | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:54 IAmRobik wrote: Palmar is my top town. If he's not your top town, then you're playing this game wrong I can have VA as top town though. | ||
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Now put your votes into the right place and we'll move on. I have just told you who the mafia are. If i am wrong on 3/4 of my scumreads i am terrible, but i am not. | ||
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On February 15 2015 01:07 Half the Sky wrote: And yes, I saw this, but it makes me wonder why he brought it up in the first place. I was intending to ask him this. He literally explains it in the post he answered me in..... | ||
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Also that meta i asked on VA. please. | ||
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On February 15 2015 01:11 prplhz wrote: how did you figure this out at this point? did you just randomly decide to read the OP right at this time? that doesn't seem like palmaresque behavior (reading the OP at any point of the game). wow this is the towniest post in the thread. I also retract my town read on Palmar because this is totes corect. | ||
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On February 15 2015 01:31 Half the Sky wrote: VA - I played with him in NYE party mafia and Void. I have yet to play with him as scum. The information I got on his scum game was in an obs QT. His town game, he honestly does jack all. I don't know how else to describe it. In NYE, the first game I played with him, I scumread him based on doing nothing and not wanting to solve the game...IIRC, the only posts he made were that he was relying on blue roles, and didn't care for reads, or something. I incorrectly scumread him and pushed his lynch, others called me on it, - and he got lynched. Void - same deal. He did jack all D1 and most of D2. Only after I flipped scum D2, did he start doing work. In this game, because he seemed to be trying right off the bat I had given him a scumread because it's not what he's ever done as town, not in the few games I've played with him as. I backed off once he said the start time was conducive to his schedule. For now, I'm reading him null. Ritoky suggested I wait until the votes came in D1. If someone should flip he might start doing more work, like he did in Void when I flipped. This is probably the way I'm going to go about reading VA. now here is the real deal. the bolded part, when you made that read what of his posts showed you he "was trying" as you put it? | ||
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On February 15 2015 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote: Kelsier is tricky, I think he just likes making really bad posts that come across as forced scum posts. He did this last game too and he was town. He seems to do the same thing to me and reads my posts as scum every game i am gonna explain my problem with Kelsier when Palmar answers me. And it's a really good problem. | ||
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On February 15 2015 01:39 VayneAuthority wrote: if you guys wanna hear a story about me, ive never been the person to start out strong. When I played chess competitively, I was known for my late game (pawns/king) and average at early/mid game which is why I tried to trade pieces ASAP. When I do work IRL I can procrastinate forever and then get absurd amounts of work done in very short time to meet deadlines. Even video games like league of legends I only play late game characters that take time to build up. There is my story. Jesus you're like me except i put (too) much effort on mafia and i have never played chess competitively (although i have played against top FIN players). | ||
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On February 15 2015 01:42 Half the Sky wrote: Rayn, on Superbia, I have never played a game with Superbia, so my reads on him will ignore meta. Limited filter on him makes it hard to figure if him questioning BH's RNG was a genuine misunderstanding on his part, or if he did roll scum, an attempt to try and scumread BH. I'm going to say null on him for now because I don't know him and I feel I need more to read him. Is there a reason for him to call me mafia for the reason he is calling me mafia for? | ||
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On February 15 2015 02:00 Half the Sky wrote: I answered all your questions on all the people you asked on. You gave me four people and I gave you my reads on them. Including the extra question on Superbia. On February 15 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is there a reason for him to call me mafia for the reason he is calling me mafia for? you even posted after that on another matter. | ||
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On February 15 2015 02:06 Half the Sky wrote: On the other hand you are scumreading Kelsier. I gave you my reasons for townreading him based on experience. What don't you like about him? ...and i have already explained why i am not giving out the reasoning at the moment. | ||
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At least i voted mafia. | ||
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On February 16 2015 17:26 Palmar wrote: Maybe the problem will solve itself tonight? rayn who are you guys shooting? Can it not be me please? I can't shoot because i am not scum. Hts, kelsier, idk maybe superbia and you are mafia. Don't care right now. Maybe in the evening in case my free time doesn't get fucked up again. | ||
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Anyways Superbia cannot be mafia most likely. Because of the jailor stuff. Then, both of the JK's are town or the game is invalid. Who started the Blazinghand lynch and why? | ||
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On February 15 2015 18:33 Palmar wrote: rayn is mafia Here's a recap on what happened. 1. Palmar does a bunch of townie things (one of those included calling rayn scum for the hts stuff) 2. rayn says "palmar is town" 3. Palmar talks about bluehunting 4. Robik says "palmar is top town because of the bluehunting thing" 5. prplhz points out reading op is not very palmar-like 6. rayn retracts his townread on Palmar The problem here is that rayn ignored everything that had caused him to call me town in the first place. He overrode all lhis previous notions based on what basically amounts to nothing. To answer the question about why I remembered it... idk? I just did? I usually have at least one tab open on page 1 for quick access to filters so I do skim the ops quite often through games. But the important part here is that changing people's mind in mafia is extremely hard. I've gone on rants about how it's always the best idea for mafia to shoot whoever is right because the people who are wrong will keep being wrong. Rayn however seems to have no problem dropping a read that I'd imagine would be pretty central to the way he is approaching the game (he puts value into reading "big name" players) because of basically nothing. Like when rayn thinks he has something, he doesn't just drop it. There was some game where he was convinced prplhz was mafia (prplhz was town) and it took marv and I fucking forever to convince him to drop it and sheep marv onto someone... Toad I think? Like if rayn doesn't believe the bluehunting thing makes me town (like robik does) I would expect him to defer to his earlier reads, not just straight up drop his townread on me. ##vote rayn Okay Palmar is mafia. This case is full of BS. Like literally full of BS. | ||
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On February 17 2015 03:56 VayneAuthority wrote: i still think BH is mafia, not buying the 2 JKs It's kinda mod confirmed. I don't fuking know what to think of Kelsier. meh.. everything he says just doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On February 15 2015 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay i am going to sauna now. cya in an hour. Robik: After this post i went to sauna, then talked on a phone for like an hour. I didn't see Palmar responding to me about Kelsier and the thread was shit so i went to a bar. Met two women and we had some drinks and did sing karaoke for the next couple of hours. Then we went to a night club where the other one came behind me and told me she wanted to come to my hotel room with me. Then i saw a ring in her hand and i am not a fucking home breaker so i left and went to sleep after drinking the rest of the stuff i wasn't supposed to drink because i was mad at myself and her and everything. That caused me to wake up late and not be able to do the stuff i was about to, which i moved to the next day from the evening before because i wanted to play mafia. Which caused me to do the stuff last evening after i had dinner with my brother and drove home. Which was also fucked up because i had accidently left my google maps on "by bike" last night when i tried to find my hotel as i had no fucking clue where i was when i left the club. So i was "supposed" to drive on sidewalks and all the smallest rads ever and it took like an hour more than it was supposed to. Yeah so i got to bed about 1AM and had to go to work at 7AM. Which is an hour drive from here so i kinda didn't give any fucks of anything other than sleep. You should probably shoot me to confirm this is true because it actually isn't. | ||
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well it will be even funnier in case i really get shot. ^_^ I kinda don't care because i've been sad and laughing at the same time for all today. anyways robert who is scum? at least let's not talk about nonsense. You should shoot me then lynch Palmar because he is mafia. Also kill FecalFeast with fire. I dunno about Kelsier. He came to thread on Saturday asking "who wants to talk". I wanted, he apparently didn't because he dropped a read -- which i found out to be bad -- on Vayne, and then just left. What's the point of asking "who wants to talk" if you don't want to talk with anyone? Just go look at my filter, starts fro mthe post where i said "i am" (on p2 in my filter). Also see his last big post? He talks abotu some people being scum (with nothing but vote analysis lol). Then some people magically disappear from his scumlist ONE LINE BELOW! And then some other guys appear there? MAgic? I call magic!! | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote: btw there's like a 100% confirmation in the thread that I am not mafia. I'm not sure if I should talk about it though. Then why do you make a BS case? I never drop my SCUMREADS. I do, however, drop my TOWNREADS if the person does something scummy. Because one scummy enough thing makes one scum, but mafia does townie things all the time. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:24 Palmar wrote: But no, you have played like a million games with me. You know the whole "Palmar doesn't read OP" thing is partly a joke. Something you glance upon every time you browse down to the filter list is absolutely something I might notice or remember at some point. (the colors of the factions in this game are out of order, it's noticable... yes I have slight OCD). The fact you tried to use that to change your mind on me basically you were looking for an excuse to do so. But you literally looked like you weren't reading the OP and prplhz had a good point on it imo. Can i also say your case is BS because that's not how i behave? Because it really isn't, and as you put it -- you have plaed a ton of games with me and you should know it. I don't care if YOU think my reasons are shit, i literally don't. I don't think they are. I read your filter and i couldn't see anything that "should make me think you are 100% town" because there wasn't nothing. All there was was a case on me that i found out to be BS and you arguing about it and not doing anything productive on D1 after that. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:27 IAmRobik wrote: Rayn, do you think I should smiley read someone in the thread (i think it's LS)? I don't think he's ever seen the smiley read, so I think it would be a genuine read. I dunno you're like 50% on me so i don't really trust that either way. | ||
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On top of that you should probably read his filter. It's really bad. | ||
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[...] So the mafia, lie within LS,Riotky,Breshke,Rsoul and FF. I think rsol is town. I am pretty sure ritoky is mafia. I am undecided on the others but I sort of feel that LS is mafia. He gave some really shit tier read on Robik like. Robik is mad he must be town. Which is like really stupid as I'm sure Robik is a good enough player to shout at someone when he is mafia. TLDR Scum is somewhere in VA,prplhz,LS,ritoky,Breshke,FF I think the most likely team at this point is VA,prplhz,LS,ritoky. SERIOUSLY ROBERT? THIS IS GOOD!?!?!? | ||
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But the reason why the post is scummy as fuck is: - there is no explanation why mafia did what Kelsier suggests - there is no explanation why the people he considers town or mafia from the "pool" are town or mafia - the superbia read is the only real and reasonable read in that post and ofc it fucking makes sense because it's the only read one can ever make in this situation Like, there is some stuff that happened, which leads to something, but without any explanation on "WHY"! | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:36 Palmar wrote: Actually, that's your first mistake. Because there is something lacking from my filter that needs to be there if I'm supposed to be mafia. I suggest you start reading all possible combination of words in the English language and compare it to the selection of word combinations I have used in my filter and see if you figure it out. get to work. I don't care about you now, i don't even think you are mafia any more, i just think you are wrong. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:40 Alakaslam wrote: Hey I am not reading What do folks recommend I say? Follow the almighty Blazinghand and role claim immediately! | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:41 Palmar wrote: I like how you're not even sure about your own alignment I am sorry english is not my mother tongue and i don't proofread my posts and write as much things as possible in the shortest time possible. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh you want me to die rayn? That's not very nice... answer question. | ||
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a real reason. you were literally suggesting i did so. so explain please. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:47 Fecalfeast wrote: But for real, you're assuming I'm thinking of team combinations D1. I'm terrible, trash as marv said. I'd rather be sure of my scumreads before I even bother with team combos. Maybe I'm wrong about all but you and you aren't bussing at all.. Next question If i go through all of your games and see you even once thinking of anything like that as town in any game can we lynch you? | ||
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On February 16 2015 11:51 ritoky wrote: rayn - activity/palmar breshke - rule Nazi start hts - bs reason to switch vote from rayn to bh slam - chupazi never lies ..before you made your case? | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:51 LightningStrike wrote: What the fuck 3 jail keepers? o.o no only 2, blazinghand is mafia. | ||
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i read it but forgot. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:53 Palmar wrote: I have no idea. I don't remember a single ritoky post. He's probably mafia. agreed. he is just sitting with his list of people. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:58 LightningStrike wrote: Why Blazinghand is Mafia but not the other two? Just curious why you think that. Because mafia would never CC in Eden's situation (there was not a real counter wagon) and Slam is not lying. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:59 LightningStrike wrote: Mafia wont target any of them if you put a list out in the thread Rayn if the Mafia is around. who cares i don't want mafia to roleblock anyone. | ||
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That's all i care about. | ||
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On February 17 2015 05:00 LightningStrike wrote: Eden I can understand but Slam idk why he didn't CC also yesterday if he really the Jail Keeper. he wasn't around...... | ||
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On February 17 2015 05:11 IAmRobik wrote: you'er not allowed to agree with your scum reads you're a couple of hours too late bro. | ||
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If blazinghand dies and flips jailkeeper you are next. | ||
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On February 16 2015 04:14 Blazinghand wrote: Here's my crumb: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757767 R C P = Record Player = LP Player = LPP = Lord Percy Percy the Jailkeeper note that I say "crumb" in this post AHAHAHAHHAHAH! oh god BH, i so love playing with you. Do you remember the Arnold tracker claim? It was maybe just as hilarious as this. ^^ | ||
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On February 17 2015 05:14 IAmRobik wrote: stop this fucking bullshit rayn. you know he's not JK If it is a "joke" then he is mafia. | ||
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On February 17 2015 05:53 Town Puppy wrote: I didn't like ray's tone when he posted. But it's weak. Eh. boohoo. | ||
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i am also the SK and i am shooting ritoky. another good night. cya. <3 i am sad Palmar. For once play with me. maybe next game. | ||
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hi scum bro! | ||
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On February 17 2015 08:19 LightningStrike wrote: You can't be both what are you really? my affiliation is scumske. i crumbed in this psot: On February 14 2015 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi purplehaze! Long time no see. Did you roll town? L T N Z = "lost the night zee?" = T N = third nemesis = scumske easy. | ||
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bcz the sk too stronk. | ||
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On February 17 2015 08:37 KelsierSC wrote: Can we talk about this guy now. I made my earlier case which was he asked a lot of.meaningless questions and traffic copped with no insight into the game. He jumped onto me.only after others called me scum. His reasons for scum reading me where my entry and defending rayn yet he decided to drop me.based on my activity which he never answered. He did his vote/unvote.on.bh which he didn't.explain then left his vote on breshke. Its been two hours since his thread exploded post but still.no insight. He has to.be scum yeah well he is right. you're scum and i am not so i can't scumread him sorry. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno about Kelsier. He came to thread on Saturday asking "who wants to talk". I wanted, he apparently didn't because he dropped a read -- which i found out to be bad -- on Vayne, and then just left. What's the point of asking "who wants to talk" if you don't want to talk with anyone? Just go look at my filter, starts from the post where i said "i am" (on p2 in my filter). Also see his last big post? He talks about some people being scum (with nothing but vote analysis lol). Then some people magically disappear from his scumlist ONE LINE BELOW! And then some other guys appear there? MAgic? I call magic!! On February 17 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: meh.. i should have just quoted the whole post. But the reason why the post is scummy as fuck is: - there is no explanation why mafia did what Kelsier suggests - there is no explanation why the people he considers town or mafia from the "pool" are town or mafia - the superbia read is the only real and reasonable read in that post and ofc it fucking makes sense because it's the only read one can ever make in this situation Like, there is some stuff that happened, which leads to something, but without any explanation on "WHY"! | ||
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On February 17 2015 08:42 KelsierSC wrote: Ok just to get you back on the right track. You say I'm terrible and nothing I say makes any fucking sense so what do you need me to clarify. Okay: - On Saturday why did you ask "who is here, i wanna talk" and when i answered you didn'twanna talk? - Why don't you give any explanation on how do you end up on ANY reads you have? | ||
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On February 14 2015 19:38 KelsierSC wrote: is anyone around to talk? I said i am. Then you ignored me for a half an hour and then you posted your read on Vayne and left. That is not "who wants to talk". That is the opposite. So agaian. Why did you say "who wants to talk" when you didn't actually want to talk with anyone? | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:24 rsoultin wrote: ritoky and Robik I've liked this game and KSC I'm having trouble getting a read on. Superbia's kind of obv town, so not sure why you're asking about him at all. But people calling you mafia is normal, LS lol I'd be more concerned if someone like HtS was doing it. what does this mean? | ||
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rsoultin seems like mafia aswell. Like her answers to robik on Palmar's case on me are just so meeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote: LS is someone you learn to read with time. So those players who have played with LS more frequently, like HtS or myself, I'd expect to be able to read him easier. so what's his alignment and why? | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:30 Palmar wrote: oh I was afk for that part. Did he suggest that before Sentinel came in and hinted that it might be true? yes. he is town or the game is invalid. you know this shit. | ||
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On February 17 2015 10:06 KelsierSC wrote: You, bad mouthing koshi. He is never wrong! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH! | ||
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and i don't give a rats ass about it because you're mafia. | ||
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On February 17 2015 10:30 KelsierSC wrote: ...she gave a great explanation what is hard to understand about it? Id rather have intelligent points than some Lewis Carroll wannabe giving me inoperable brain cancer This: I generally have the expectation that someone with his experience level (especially) should be able to either give reads on other people or at least come up with some sort of other method in conjunction (like PoE) to further support why his RNG read was good if he was that serious about it. RNG is RNG. Why would you need to "support" your RNG with reasons? That is just dumb. | ||
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On February 17 2015 10:35 Blazinghand wrote: honestly.. we did rng VA yeah and he is town so what's next? | ||
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On February 17 2015 10:40 IAmRobik wrote: I wonder if the person who said they know why i scumread LS actually knows....although it should be pretty fucking obvious no, LS is too off to be mafia.100% | ||
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On February 17 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote: Lol, a lurking FF Hey Rayn, what makes VA town? His filter is sparse as shit. this | ||
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I am going vote for purplehaze because he hasn't have done anything to even try to solve this game. He is just calling me and Palmar useless (like are we the only two people in this game?). But then his decision is i am mafia (which is wrong). | ||
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rsoultin also looks bad for her post on wanting to push two townies and ignoring the case on ff -- wgo, by her own definition se always wants to lynch. Even when ff is town. Now suddenly she townreads him? How is that possible? | ||
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That one is on you guys this game because she is mafia. | ||
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My status i work. My car broke but fortunately that gives me an hour more time to play in train morning/evening. Seems like we have oppsite reads palmar. That's quite bad. And i don't know what that makes you. Like you too haven't put any effort into anything but flip-flopping your read on me. Focus on something else for a moment... you are not helping. | ||
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I already told why he is town. It happens every fucking game. People lynch va because "he isn't doing shit". | ||
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Mafia is prplhz, rsoultin, damdred and hts. (if hts is town then robik is scum). At least three of them are scum. Perhaps ritoky or maybe even palmar. Mafia success = time used on it and i don't have much time during weeks. Get used to it fuckers. I have better things to do than to defend myself to non-existent cases which are based on nothing but my activity. | ||
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Maybe some bright guy will read his filter then and not call ME not trying to find mafia. His only real reads throughout the game has been "kelsier is mafia" and "rayn is scum because idk why he is town". | ||
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On February 19 2015 01:40 Blazinghand wrote: The fact that Palmar Rayn and I are getting along so poorly means either we're COLLECTIVELY in an awful mood or there is scum amongst us. Rayn. What do you think I don't know. I find it pissivle but highly unlike. Like i TRIED when i had time. Palmar disn't, which is not alifnment indicative for him. Then i haven't had time. Of course we are getting along poorly when palmar only calls me scum. What the fuck should i say? Also me and you don't usually get along well... and it doesn't help you a pushing a townie lynch. For the rest of the thread ai am nit going to defend myself in any way because there is no case. I can give a read on everyone whwn i get home from work. So don't waste time asking me why i am not mafia. | ||
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On February 19 2015 02:01 Damdred wrote: There is a case on you in fact rayn and it has little to do with the level of activity but rather the way you conduct yourself and the way your reads go is much more the focus I think. Also VA rayn has kinda dialed scum back and has taken the Marv approach last time I saw him. You don't even fucking know how my reads go becquse i can't quote posts on phone. And i am not stupid enough to change my reads "without reasoning" as mafia. No matter how busyy i am i never do that. For the record you believed my explanations on why i am busy. Everything you have posted implies so. And you are pushing becquse i have not had time to explain myself properly (which is btw fucking implicative of me being TOWN). And that's why you are mafia. | ||
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On February 19 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote: Of course I believe that you are busy in real life, you were busy in slythern to. You aren't BH I believe you. However if you compare the most recent town game where you were also strapped for time you see such a huge difference in how you push people and what you do that yea there is something a lot different to the games. Which is directy comparable to the fact i am NOT ABLE TO PLAY PROPERLY!! Next time youre gonna call me mafia at least make up better feasons than my inactivity. You havent for once even tried to aks me why i think something of something. | ||
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On February 19 2015 03:22 Blazinghand wrote: If it makes you feel any better, rayn, your claims of IRL stuff have zero impact one way or the other on me. How surprising. I just posted it because robik asked. Also because noone should ever try to meta me in any fucking way after this game. Ever. I'll policy voge anyone who ever does that 100% promised. True story. | ||
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On February 19 2015 03:42 Palmar wrote: Of the people pushing you rayn damdred is probably the towniest. If you can't even analyze your own wagon you are basically confirmed mafia We'll see about that.. | ||
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On February 19 2015 03:45 Damdred wrote: Honestly Rayn, your filter is there for everyone to read. I read it and I posted my conclusions from it, you were what looks like equally strapped for time in slythern for example but you made a much more concerted effort when you were in the thread. Its not about inactivity at all, its how you use your time. And just reading your filter its not the scum hunting rayn that is normal even when you are strapped for time. I had two strong scumreads when i left on D1. Hts and kelsier. I stated my reasons on hts besides her claim (it's easy to deduce from my posting).i wanted palmar to comment on my kelsirr scumread before givinf my reasoning, which i did. I made town cases on a lot of people Then rsoultin came in and the thread went to shit. Palmar didn't answr me so i stoooed giving any fucks for that irl day. Yeah. That was the day i was able to play this game properly. If you can't tell that from my filter you are scum. | ||
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On February 19 2015 03:54 Alakaslam wrote: Hey so I am still lost Why is rayn scum? Short sweet and to the point There is no reason i am scum. | ||
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On February 19 2015 04:15 IAmRobik wrote: YOUR'E NOT EVEN TRYING TO FUCKING SOLVE THE GAME RAYN. I am. Ihave found many mafia. I am also not yet home. | ||
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On February 19 2015 04:31 Palmar wrote: If we get this right, team Palmar/Damdred is officially a thing. well you 100% won't. | ||
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Why the fuck would you not try to solve this game with me instead of just making snarky crap posts towards me? Why? I just can't understand it in any way. | ||
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So i am making that list post now. | ||
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Based on what marvellosity said in Horn (and he was town), you typically want to claim it as soon as you can. I won't even go search because marv would NEVER EVER SAY THIS!After (besides) that the first thing that bothered me was her meta on VA on D1, which was completely incorrect. Second thing: Also I don't like Robik's post about me because he's not reading and understanding why I'm asking the questions I am Yeah well, noone did ever understand why you asked the questions you did. BECAUSE THERE WERE NEVER ANY CONCLUSIONS!!Then here is the proof her "meta read" (see above) on VA is bullshit. VA - I played with him in NYE party mafia and Void. I have yet to play with him as scum. The information I got on his scum game was in an obs QT. His town game, he honestly does jack all. I don't know how else to describe it. In NYE, the first game I played with him, I scumread him based on doing nothing and not wanting to solve the game...IIRC, the only posts he made were that he was relying on blue roles, and didn't care for reads, or something. I incorrectly scumread him and pushed his lynch, others called me on it, - and he got lynched. Void - same deal. He did jack all D1 and most of D2. Only after I flipped scum D2, did he start doing work. like, she literally quotes VA'S TOWN PLAY CORRECTLY -- which is also 100% he is doing in this game, but hey, her meta-read on VA is that VA is mafia. Good job, good job. After that she decides to (1) ignore my questions or (2) misrepresent the questions where she answers, like it literally did show she had not read the thread properly. I said that already on D1, so go fucking read as noone gave shit about it. Then she makes a case on me: [spoiler] On February 15 2015 13:36 Half the Sky wrote: Looking into some of Rayn's quotes after he questioned me on my reads, there are a few quotes of his that have me scumreading Rayn. I have never played with him so I am disregarding meta. How does he know for a "fact that LS is town"? If he's town, he wouldn't know this for a fact. Next quote: Possible buddying of Palmar? I don't understand as a veteran why he cannot figure out some of these players (other veterans) himself. I have heard in QTs he's a good player (correct me if I'm wrong on this) Now I know BH has been around, I don't know who he means by Robert, and it would appear prplhz has also been around TL a bit. It seems like it could be a way to use an incorrect Palmar read for a potential mafia agenda. I also read further on the post that Rasputin mentioned on the flip-flop. I don't understand why he'd ask Palmar for help on reading someone and then through a single post, he not only is confident enough to agree with someone he previously might have needed help reading but then retracts someone he was willing to work with. Additionally I got a very bad vibe from this as well: Like he's trying to push me when I'd already answered his questions. Looking at the timestamps there were 12 minutes in between I answered his last question and when he said that, so it's not like he missed my questions. It seems like he's trying to reach to call me scum based on this. (1) BBBBBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. roflskates forever. i called someone town she is scumreading me for it? (2) Yeah why would i ask Palmar's help in reading someone he is really good at reading and i am not? I FUCKING WONDER? Can't she connect the dots? And how the fuck does that make me mafia? (3) Yeah well the bolded part is 100% true. So WHAT? Her not answering me and instead talking about something else (=seems like dodging the questions) is ME being scummy? Right. Then there is this post: On February 16 2015 04:08 Half the Sky wrote: Just saw this. Where are your reads on others? Or if you live to D2 and beyond are you going to keep RNGing people? Step it up Blazinghand. Now. ##unvote ##vote Blazinghand She literally votes for BH because BH could not make an argument against VA other than RNG. But HEY, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT! THAT IS FUCKING WHAT I SAID ABOUT 1 HOUR AGO! Yet before this vote there is this: On February 16 2015 03:16 Half the Sky wrote: Based on the points I'd made before: ##vote Rayn seriously? Fucking seriously? and noone gives any shit about this? Then HtS scumreads prplhz. But only "for a bit". Then her D2 case on me is a META case based on how i played in Slytherin!!!!!! Like remember this? I have never played with him so I am disregarding meta. Apparently it doesn't matter any more. But hey, what do i know, i am just another scum at all for you fuckers. For the record i don't give any fucks about the case on FF because it's is based on "not reading well" and "misrepresenting things" which she has been doing all game long, also see my read on FF. ritoky - I am honest, i can't remember anything ritoky said on D1. This morning i read his filter and his filter from the tinyhunt game and then i remembered it. ritoky looks fucking town when he is mafia. When he isn't, he doesn't look town because he apparently puts less effort to the game when he is town than when he is scum. Which makes me MEHHHHH because his filter is still really terrible. i don't know, i'd say leaning town 60%. VayneAuthority - i have everything i have to say about him. IAmRobik - D1 looked townie, D2 looks fucking terrible. He isn't yelling "LS IS MAFIA" like he did on N1. He isn't doing anything. tbh i haven't paid much attention on him because he says dumb stuff all the time as town and i can't figure out him yet. Definitely scum if hts is town though. He had a case on hts on D1, yet never pushed it. Now he calls her town. I don't know, it just doesn't make any sense at all. None. But it's not m/m. rsoultin - mafia. made the thread go shit on D1 when there was ACTUALLY good conversations going on. Unremembered on anything. Like she isn't pushing anything. She is just "there" saying stuff. And then, look at this: In her reads VA is null. I am leaning scum (because of how i play as town -- as per her definition lol ). Then BH makes his D2 caswe on VA, here is rsoultin's answer: On February 18 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote: Talk to me about anyone but VA (or you) and I will happily vote him with you. How's that for incentive? On February 18 2015 08:41 rsoultin wrote: ##unvote ##vote: VA I agree that rayn looks scummy. Did not appreciate all the mafia/sk claims he was doing last night either -_- TADAAA! not even going to write why this is scummy.... [b]LightningStrike - definitely town.is interested in finding mafia in his own way which -- i am sorry -- i don't think is very good. like he is literally trying to make reads on what people say. it would be retarded for him - -as mafia -- to make such off a mess out of me trolling on N1 with my mafia claim because he would know i am not mafia. I think he was genuinely confused and town. period. Palmar -- meh, idk. He looks fine but there are these things that bother me: - his read on prplhz, i don't think he should read him as town. - him calling damdred town. - him pushing me and not focusing onto anything else while i was not even posting meh.. I JUST DON'T KNOW!!! fuck. Alakaslam - i am just gonna go say town because i have no clue what he is doing and he isn't saying bad stuff. prplhz - i made my case already. Hasn't said anything on D2 except "is there a reason rayn is town. Oh, he is scum kthxbye". awful. Has no intention to solve this game. Playing to "not be the scummiest person and to not get lynched", clearly. The ONLY good post he had in this game was the post about Palmar on D1, then nothing. No fucking real follow up or anything. [b]Blazinghand - confirmed town which i hate because he has no incentive to solve this game either. Superbia - confirmed town which i hate because he has no incentive to solve this game either. Damdred - scum because he makes a shit read on me. that read is literally shit. just read it. i am tired of writing so just read his filter, read the original reason he is voting for me, then read our conversation. It does not add up in any level. mafiamafiamafia!! Fecalfeast -- town because of dick move analysis. If FF said this: On February 18 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote: If I flip town, promise me you will change your signature to "League of Legends is for noobs, also FecalFeast is the best mafia player ever" for a week. .. i will despise him. So yeah there you go. | ||
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On February 19 2015 05:46 Half the Sky wrote: Rayn, keep digging that hole for yourself. I scumread you based on your gameplay from D1. You have given me zero reason for me to change my read on you. In fact the more you post on some of the others, the more convinced you are scum. And once I've formed a read, I use meta to check not only myself but other people who are scumreading you. In fact I only checked your last game in Slytherin largely because of what Damdred said. You showed already once how you tried to misrepresent me and you just keep doing it again. Keep taking me and others out of context, you're doing a fine job of it. Now everyone read how crap this post is please. One question: Who in scum QT told you to antagonize me in order to get myself modkilled? | ||
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THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY YOU READ THAT POST WITH THOUGHT IN 0-1 MINUTES! | ||
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but anyways, there is no way you read that post in 5 minutes properly because it is impossible. you can lynch me now but you are going down tomorrow. there is no way smart people are not gonna look at that after i die. so basically you can quit. | ||
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On February 19 2015 05:54 IAmRobik wrote: + Show Spoiler +rayn, i think she's town if she is she is really bad at this game and should not call herself experienced. | ||
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On February 19 2015 05:57 IAmRobik wrote: + Show Spoiler + she's not experienced and she's meh at the game. why does this surprise you? + Show Spoiler + because she called herself "veteran" multiple times on D1.... | ||
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On February 19 2015 05:59 Blazinghand wrote: It's still not super clear to me why people think VA is town On February 18 2015 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because VA is the person i am best at reading in mafia. I already told why he is town. It happens every fucking game. People lynch va because "he isn't doing shit". On February 18 2015 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Basically va needs a mafia flip to play. He doesn't give any fucks about the game until then. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:02 Blazinghand wrote: Also I can't help but shake the feeling that rayn's the kinda dude who would fake anger as town.. I never would. I never have. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:03 Blazinghand wrote: oh, cause the red flip will make him good? huehuehuehuehue seriously though dude unless you're linking me to a game where VA did this as town, to me, these are just words writ in water Do you fucking think VA, as one of the main lynch targets, would vote for you, who is basically CONFIRMED TOWN? Do you seriously fucking think he would do that as mafia given that i am town and as i am another lynch target i COULD redeem myself? DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK HE WOULD DO THAT? | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:06 Blazinghand wrote: Well it produces zero info or associative tells when he flips, and it seems to be working out pretty well for him, so... yes? So you think i am town? As i am the only fucking person in this stupid game to defend him. And apparently my word is worth shit. SO HOW DOES THAT POSSIBLY DO ANY GOOD FOR HIM IF HE IS MAFIA? ESPECIALLY IF I WOULD FLIP MAFIA? | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:07 Palmar wrote: I hate the fact both rayn and robik scumread damdred. Like it's literally almost impossible to jump into a 100 page game as a replacement or whatever and read back, form reads and be assertive, yet he actually did that. I caught damdred in imperial, and this is not mafia damdred. I read him scum because his case on me is invalid in every step of it. It really is. I would like you to actually read it with thought what he ACTUALLY says instead of just what he says. | ||
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so many. i am almost crying because noone does even READ it!!! | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:10 Blazinghand wrote: dude rayn there's like literally nobody besides me voting VA. I'm all alone. You're in the majority on this issue. give me one person who isn't scumreading VA? Then look at the time he voted for you. like could you use your brain, even for a bit? | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote: I have no idea why people call VA town btw. I'm just lynching rayn atm. Yeah fuck you. Just fuck you. You don't even care if i am mafia or town any more. I hope this town loses if you are town. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:14 Blazinghand wrote: I'll take a look at the HtS case on you. any particular things youw ant me to focus on when determining HTS alignment? she contradicts herself a numerous times in how she looks at the game. mainly regarding meta (on me and VA). When it fits to her, meta is scummy, when it doesn't, she "doesn't care about it" or "doesn't use it". double standards. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote: It's not impossible, mod never specifically said there are 2 jks or that BH is one of them but the way that whole situation played out I imagine there are 2 JKs. Unless BH is a fan of blackadder and took the bet on 2JK being too imbalanced to confirm himself blazinghand is town or the game is invalid. if there weren't two jailkeepers the mod had said "i can't answer this question". Instead they gave a half-arsed answer that points to a direction of both JK's being town. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:17 Half the Sky wrote: Nope, already shot that point down. Try again. just shut the fuck up please. | ||
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Because i can,. if you flip town. I am 107% sure you are mafia. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:25 Superbia wrote: He attempted to JK me but was RBed. oh yeah that makes him double confirmed town which makes VA also double confirmed town. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:26 prplhz wrote: any particular reason everybody is ignoring everything i say? because you are not saying anything. | ||
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gimme a sec. what are the rb claims? bh claims rb'd suberbia claims rb'd? | ||
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so superb claims shot and vet bh claims rb's palmar claims rb's eden shot. that means eden 100% jailed palmar. superbia is most likely veteran. where is mafia roleblock? | ||
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WHY? | ||
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##vote Blazinghand yolo i don't believe you, fuck the mod confirmation. your claim is shit anyways. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:35 Superbia wrote: Possibility of one JK yolo-saving the other. yeah i am bad as i said. | ||
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maybe Palmar is stupid enough to do that, but noone else. never. there is absolutely nothing that would ever make me mafia on D1. | ||
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Superbia was shot by SK/mafia luger pistol. | ||
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THE MOST PERFECT THING TO DO WHEN YOU ARE MAFIA SO WHEN THE LYNCH FLIPS TOWN YOU CAN JUST SAY "OH WELL, MY LAST POSTS COUNT FOR NOTHING"! | ||
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we have no chance of winning. WOW SHIT! | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. On February 19 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote: actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. | ||
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I am a cop and i have a red check on him. | ||
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On February 19 2015 08:29 Fecalfeast wrote: so jk/jk/vet/cop is balanced? i am literally unbalanced because if there are 2 millers then like 50% of the game turns out "scum" to me.. | ||
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Very good job. I am glad i don't have to be in this game anymore. I was town btw and shame on this town. Shame shame. | ||
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I hopdd i didn't have to see it any more. | ||
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Just saying. | ||
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Fuckk you town. You deserve to lose. | ||
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On February 26 2015 00:47 justanothertownie wrote: This game not only proves how much third parties suck because I think town loses this game 9/10 times without the SK shooting all the mafia but also that some arguments in the townplay thread are complete and utter bullshit. Rayn called out 6 people, among those 6 people were the whole mafia team, the SK and one townie. Still he was not only not listened to but he was mislynched instead. Finding and calling out mafia means absolutely nothing without proving your own innocence. This is the ultimate proof. The problem is that nobody actually read my post at least pre-flip. I don't know how i can possibly prove my innocence other than making good cases on all mafia (i honestly think my cases on EVERY anti-town player were good). Like i posted in obs QT -- look at what Blazinghand for example said. Like meh... a townleader acting like that is just plain out idiotic. People (besider robert) had just decided i was mafia because of some shit reason of me not being able to play and because "his reads changed without any reason" (not that anyone cared for once asking me "why".. There is no way i could have had done anything about being lynched regardless of what i say. | ||
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On February 26 2015 00:57 justanothertownie wrote: Oh, and also sentinel confirming BH and Eden as JKs has to be one of the poorest hosting decisions I have ever seen. If I was mafia in this game I would probably just ragequit immediately. Agreed. | ||
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On February 26 2015 02:45 LightningStrike wrote: To verify if you are the Miller not the SK most likely. well still dumb. as was checking VA after my flip. There is gonna be about no chance he is mafia when i am town and i have a town read on him. | ||
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also can you explain what is "troll to lose the game as mod-confirmed town"? because that was what you was.. | ||
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On February 26 2015 04:05 Blazinghand wrote: Hey I made a lot of good calls that game. I made some bad calls to but that's the nature of mafia yeah sure. you used your D1 and D2 in calling VA (obvious town) mafia. Then you made the worst post in the game. Check the obs QT for it. I don't even give a fuck what you did after that because you, as confirmed town, played horrendously when i was alive. | ||
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On February 26 2015 04:16 Blazinghand wrote: rayn, robik, we won, no need to get angry jeez i am fucking mad for getting lynched for having almost perfect reads for like sixth time in my life. and you fuckfaces never learn. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:11 Blazinghand wrote: seriously though rayn. when you're dealing with idiots you gotta be able to speak their language, you know? no i don't know... and i even don't wanna know. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:16 Blazinghand wrote: Like, what I'm trying to say is, you got lynched. And you're mad at people for lynching you for what you perceive as bad reasons, especially since your reads were basically 100% solid. The thing is, it is at least a tiny bit your fault for getting lynched, even if people have shit reasons. Probably yes. I just fail to work with idiots. May that be my fault i am thank-fucking-ing the god that's the way it is. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:19 Blazinghand wrote: Like, people generally make fun of my play but despite the fact that I'm only a slightly above-average scumhunter with very above-average good looks, I rarely get lynched. I'm willing to pander to not get lynched. I'm willing to pull anything out of my ass to not get lynched. Now, I don't focus on improving this part of my play, since the weak point in my play right now is probably scumhunting, but that doesn't mean it's not an important part of my play. I used to care about getting lynched but not any more. I get lynched for two reasons as town: (1) I have reads that are too good and the town is too shit (2) i lynch myself true story. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:32 Blazinghand wrote: you're a valuable and capable player, rayn. I am disappointed that you don't feel a need to not get lynched. that's on you. mainly on you in this game. i can get people playing bad because i play bad from time to time. i don't get people intentionally trying to destroy the town like you did in this game for no reason. why the fuck should i care when noone else cares? i put the max effort to this game when i was able to and i got posts like "you are going to get lynched, no matter what you say" -- from YOU. so maybe you should think about how you play this game instead of how i do and why i do feel what i do... | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:44 prplhz wrote: I think the raynpelikoneet lynch was more on town than on raynpelikoneet. However, there are certainly some things raynpelikoneet could have done to lower the risk of him getting lynched in that situation (such as not going crazy). Of course it sucks to get lynched on a poor case when you've pretty much found the scum team, but you're just confusing everybody by claiming mafia and cop and that's really not in your favor. Yes i understand. In to my defense on N1 when i claimed "scumske" ( ) i am not sure anyone (other than ls lol) took that seriously. If people can't deduce it is a joke at that point (the thread was again shit) then.. well.. haha ^^ I had no time when i claimed cop. I had no time to type on my phone why Palmar is mafia, and i was really sure there is no cop in the game, so i just claimed a cop. Again, if you read the obs QT, i can't see why would anyone as town think i am mafia for my claim. Obviously the only reason is if you have already decided i am mafia -- which furthers my claim on "there was nothing i could do at that point", which makes my claim irrelevant in the first place. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:46 rsoultin wrote: In essence, you were lynched because of your lack of credibility, and people not being able to follow your scumreads. It doesn't even matter what your reads were. I was lynched because of i was not playing for 16-24 hours, nothing else. which is fucking atrocious. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: I've seen plenty of people recover from a bout of inactivity like that. I've done it myself, rayn. i am not you and i am not anyone else and when there is a game full of sucking Palmar's dick (who was btw doing nothing) there is nothing i can do. | ||
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never. not before this, not after this. no matter what i say. but i don't care. i just yell at ppl post game then. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:56 rsoultin wrote: Well, don't know what to tell you. You've indicated that this is a pattern, you getting lynched when your reads are good, but you refuse to admit that you may actually be a factor in your getting lynched. That's okay...but it means you'll probably continue to get lynched. Definition of insanity and all xP .. which is why i usually avoid games that have no good players in the game. or if they are mafia i just tell they are mafia and the nthe town does what the fuck they want to. like this game. town just happened to win this time. | ||
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On February 26 2015 06:00 ritoky wrote: isn't that more credit deserved to those who were anti-town and were capable of getting you out of the way early? not really. it is a sign of bad or ignorant (which is bad anyways) town play. | ||
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i am calling most of the town bad in this game for not reading what i said. like people (like bh) are arguing my "defense was bad" when my defense was perfect -- reasoning included... i don't give any fucks of looking town to "bad" (or bad) players, or any player. I am just telling who is mafia and why. If people can't understand it then they can go learn to play, i am happy if i can find mafia and if i present good reasons for my scumreads then i don't know how i can do better. If i had like 30page filter in this game (like i usually do) on D2, noone would have ever lynched me and we would have lynched mafia, mafia, mafia, SK, maybe HtS and then mafia (because i am shit at reading prplhz). I can't possibly counter the case "inactivity", never. I just can't. I don't care to explain why. | ||
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On February 26 2015 06:36 marvellosity wrote: have you ever considered not being a massive douche? don't worry i probably deserve it. not form him specifically but.. | ||
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On February 26 2015 09:54 Alakaslam wrote: The whole reason I checked VA was that my trust in your reads has been proven false in the past. You have been horrendously wrong numerous enough times that you are only a little better than wifom for me, certainly not sheeping material. When going to a banquet, don't take the place of honor. You might get booted by the host. Take the lowest place; in all likelihood you will be raised, and the fool who took the high place will be placed at the bottom. I am interested in which games are you referring to? | ||
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