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On March 17 2015 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: like yeah, you are playing, but you are not really trying to lynch mafia so fucking hard you point out you "should be". Because the first step of lynching mafia, is figuring out who the mafia is
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I am not going to manufacture a scumread because that would better fit my goals. I'm in it to win it!
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Reading this prplhz filter I got so much issues with marv pointing out the 2 things prplhz did that was maybe town. marv his read on prplhz clouds my vision so hard. During the entire game.
If I think prplhz I think marv. I don't have it with any other player.
suspicious stuff.
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Onegu lynch doesn't tell me shit tbh. prplhz lynch tells me a lot.
And I got a feeling we are going to lynch them both so I prefer the information now.
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On March 17 2015 07:16 Koshi wrote: Reading this prplhz filter I got so much issues with marv pointing out the 2 things prplhz did that was maybe town. marv his read on prplhz clouds my vision so hard. During the entire game.
If I think prplhz I think marv. I don't have it with any other player.
suspicious stuff. There's a reason I've been questioning this throughout the game.
Like, hell, I thought they were masons on n1 because that was the only way I could fit those strong mutual reads of each other.
But I don't know.
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On March 17 2015 07:17 Koshi wrote: Onegu lynch doesn't tell me shit tbh. prplhz lynch tells me a lot.
And I got a feeling we are going to lynch them both so I prefer the information now. Who cares about the information? Which one is scummier?
Koshi PLEASE?
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On March 17 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 07:17 Koshi wrote: Onegu lynch doesn't tell me shit tbh. prplhz lynch tells me a lot.
And I got a feeling we are going to lynch them both so I prefer the information now. Who cares about the information? Which one is scummier? Koshi PLEASE? prplhz
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in hindsight, me guessing they were masons is really townie of me!
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so what happens when i flip town?
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idk I still don't get mafia vibes from palmar... Would kill prplhz but isn't it a little too obvious to vote with the other mafia who's about to flip? Is it just onegu and me who get mafia vibes from eden atm? I keep trying to force myself to read marv but like wow that's a demotivating number of pages.
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On March 17 2015 07:20 prplhz wrote: so what happens when i flip town? N3
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better sheep him then
##Vote prplhz
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i actually enjoyed this game even though all you people seem not to have
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Oh I love it.
The only thing I've disliked is how marv/koshi treated me today because I'm generally okay as long as people want to talk to me. Then they both decided to talk to me anyway, so now everything is good.
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Ok I am never moving my vote.
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btw, I need to start keeping a list of emo-selfvoters and just policy lynch them over and over until they stop being such betas.
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On March 17 2015 07:29 prplhz wrote:start with this guy lol
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On March 17 2015 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 06:15 Eden1892 wrote:On March 17 2015 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like what is you FULL reasoning for voting me Eden? Not a part of it. You are making me angry atm.. The three points I can really remember in no special order: (1) The n1 actions (2) Your questioning doesn't look like it's hunting for mafia but trying to make people look lynchable without regard for their alignment (3) I feel like when you're town, from what I've seen of you, you tend to be more forceful about finding mafia. You were so with JAT d1 which was part of why I townread you before JAT flipped. But I feel like you've dropped off since then and are more complacent, which kinda ties into (2) I gotta go for now but I can talk more ¬1/2 hr (1) doesn't mean anything (2) explain, i have not questioned anyone much after D1 where i was completely lost when i did so. (3) i have pushed my reads. I really don't agree that (1) means nothing. And I'm sorry for that if you are town, because I understand completely that if you're town you can't really say much to this point. It's kinda like using POE to solve a game, it really sucks for whoever gets POE'd because there's just nothing to rebut. But it means something to me and I can't back down on it.
On (2), the quantity of your questioning doesn't relate to the quality; my argument doesn't really concern itself with how frequently you have or haven't been questioning other people, it's concerned with how the questions are constructed and what they're driving at. You seem to always jump to the worst possible conclusions about the people you're questioning, or imply the worst possible conclusions if you don't state them outright. Damdred has to be a liar because he disagreed with your take on the LS situation, my arguments about the n1 actions have to come from knowing certain things about the setup that town don't know, etc. It just looks like you're trying to pin people down as having said suspicious things to get a lynch instead of trying to pin people's alignments down.
With (3), I don't really remember you pushing them much after d1? You pushed JAT hard which was good, and you said Palmar isn't mafia pretty forcefully a couple times, but then after that I don't really remember it. Maybe I'm just forgetting it in the 4000 posts and counting in this game. Who are your current suspects?
On March 17 2015 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +I feel like when you're town, from what I've seen of you, you tend to be more forceful about finding mafia. You were so with JAT d1 which was part of why I townread you before JAT flipped. But I feel like you've dropped off since then and are more complacent, which kinda ties into like this is is straight up BS because Eden townread me WAY before i EVER pushed JAT. I said "part of." It wasn't the only reason. See (2) in my preceding response, here you call what I say "straight up BS" instead of reading it carefully to try to discern my point.
On March 17 2015 06:36 Palmar wrote: Note to self: never let Koshi lead towns, he's actively destructive when he tries to. I don't think that's particularly fair, your big post describing the evolution of your reads was pretty good and allayed some of my worries with you, but it only happened because he grilled you until you posted it. I think this kind of evaluation should probably wait until the results come in, no?
@Eden, I saw somewhere from you a quote that mentioned you thought marv was treating JAT with something gloves? (what is the expression?) Do you feel this was a valid assessment of marv's day 1 regarding JAT? Kid gloves (or white gloves) -- the idea being that you're handling the object with such care as not even to leave smudges from your fingers behind. I felt like marv was really soft on JAT at various points - the one instance I remember in particular was him basically agreeing that JAT wasn't being productive at the time but that he'd give JAT time to get going, or something like that. Another time he basically said he should stop discussing JAT with someone who was suspicious of JAT and let JAT defend himself. The way I read that, it was uncharacteristically hedging (given that we now know JAT is mafia) for mafia marv. From what I recall, marv doesn't defend his teammates as mafia, he either tries to drive the lynch elsewhere without addressing the teammate at all or he tries to ride the wave and get on the lynch early. It seems like something that town marv would do when dealing with someone whose alignment he doesn't know, but not something that mafia marv would do when dealing with a teammate under fire.
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