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BH claimed cop d1, MM and robik both CC'd him. BH was lynched then the next day MM was lynched, robik had rescinded. It was uch a weird game | ||
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Rsoultin isn't being a pita, must be scum. | ||
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game solved | ||
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bh isn't playing, lynch bh. ##vote blazinghand | ||
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I'll weigh in on a poe list soonish | ||
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Damdred Wouldn't lynch probably Rsoultin Breshke I like you will you come over later? Yamato Who are you and what did you do with who I used to know Artanis Why are you ignoring us all: would probably lynch Trfel Probably Would vote for Wave of shadow Must be scum Blazinghand Must Be Palmar palmar This is sorta a silly list post if anyone has any questions just ask i'll answer it when i'm around and not asleep | ||
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1) why is bh scum instead of null? Shouldn't trfel be in the same sort of zone prior to the big post? 2) what about wave has him down so far? Why is breshke so high? all are valid questions left unasked sadly | ||
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Now bh is an interesting case as I'm sure he will come into the thread at a later time and hive some form of excuse of his absence for the first however many hours. But as always his scum meta is to do as little as possible and scrape by on fabrications and afking. And as such him being gone is scummy espe ially while he is active elsewhere. This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town. Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm. Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level. great questions | ||
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compare activity levels especially with his town games and it gets pretty drastic honestly. Bur it is a plymch currently at that | ||
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HEY GUYS I HAVE A NEW JOB WONT DO ANYTHING FOR AWHILE SO DONT LYNCH ME-BH this game | ||
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##Vote artanis Lets do this, if he's Scum we get a great lynch if he's not oh well statistics. But seriously his approach is scummy | ||
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As such I think arts actions are scummy and we should,make him play | ||
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However art isn't the same type of creature | ||
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On April 22 2015 07:16 Trfel wrote: This. If we lynch anyone, it should be Damdred. This isn't suspicious, this is a hard read that you can't explain | ||
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However only one person asked any form of questions about my reads which was pretty fun indeed. And actually yea votes not that bad on art. | ||
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So let's honestly try to lynch someone | ||
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On April 22 2015 11:07 Breshke wrote: Ohh damdred I forgot to ask. Did you actually want to lynch artanis? Or were you just trying to get stuff to happen? More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though. | ||
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Anyway, your scum game is better than you give it credit for and not just a lurking pile of mess. Any questions while i'm here | ||
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I suppose I could dissect it and destroy the argument. But I don't think I will and see reactions to it because that's the fun way to go | ||
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But i'm here for a bit if anyone wants to talk | ||
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I do think several posts are a bit weird, but I think shes town. | ||
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I'm town though | ||
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I don't know if I actually believe this is town bh saying this stuff it just looks like scum bh | ||
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It was one of the student mafia games, D1 Trfel was much more involved early seemingly trying to contribute without actually doing so. Here its a bit different as he was just afk and null, now hes been acting decently towny. Obviously don't let him know I said so | ||
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##Vote BH We need one more for lynch find it | ||
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I'm around if anyone has anything they want to talk to me about | ||
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Its interesting but I can't tell much at present | ||
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On April 23 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2015 07:10 Damdred wrote: hrmmmm, do you want to lynch someone else besides bh rsoultin lol if he suddenly dropped dead and i had a gun to my head? artie is the one i'm most suspicious of after him xP do you want to lynch someone else besides bh? I'm honestly not sure. I don't have much of a secondary scum read Palmar is Null and Artie is on the lower side if not in the leaning section | ||
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Art really isn't helping town Trfel at this point is being pretty wordy while showing the thread that her suspicions while leaving doubt in there for a backtack for example Though I'm not very good at meta reads, and I don't have much experience playing with yamato77. For someone who was sure of this read enough o dig up old games, much doubt is put into it and distance is put inbetween in case yamato flips town. | ||
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On April 24 2015 13:58 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Would you rather I be confident in my play to a degree far higher than my skill at mafia warrants?On April 24 2015 13:38 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure what else you want me to explain, Art really isn't helping town Trfel at this point is being pretty wordy while showing the thread that her suspicions while leaving doubt in there for a backtack for example Though I'm not very good at meta reads, and I don't have much experience playing with yamato77. For someone who was sure of this read enough o dig up old games, much doubt is put into it and distance is put inbetween in case yamato flips town. One surefire way to find town players is to look at my scumreads. Here's what I'm thinking, and yamato77 is a scumread of mine. But I see ways that this read could be wrong, so I'm asking and sharing my thoughts. I could keep holding my thoughts to myself, and analyzing him myself, or I could leave it open to the rest of the thread, where everyone is better than me and can analyze this better than I can. It's a matter of honest, not a matter of alignment. I mean, if you want me to push my reads to the end of time, I can do that. If you want me to throw the game for town, I can do that as well. Up to you. 1) Underplaying yourself is one of the scummy things that I believe exists 2) The main issue is that you come out of the gate really strong on Yamato. Heres why I think hes scum, and you line up all these reasons but then at the very read you dismiss yourself and make it seem like you aren't strong on him at all. 3) How do you know its throwing the game if you push your Yamato read forever? If you think hes scum legitimately you wouldn't think you would be throwing the game, if you are scum you know that it will lose the game for town. Hence why you just said "If you want me to throw the game for town" you said for town because you aren't town. ##Vote Trfel | ||
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I have a reason to tr Everton outside of trfel, art palmar I think. So yea | ||
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I thought Yamato looked good early decent activity ok content, waves picked up later | ||
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On April 25 2015 01:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2015 01:42 Damdred wrote: I'll reread there interactions but I don't think it looks mafiaxmafia. I thought Yamato looked good early decent activity ok content, waves picked up later What is this? Why are you instantly trying to look at them as a scumteam instead of looking at if they're scum individually? What's this unflipped association thing? palmar asked a specific question and I answered it | ||
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I thought you had me town breshke w.w | ||
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Honestly the change on Art is pretty well deserved. Palmar is probably town in this situation though like his latest postings | ||
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Though I've been bad this game theres that to. | ||
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Besides that the town list goes something like this Damdred Breshke Wave Palmar Yamato Trfel Artanis From least scummy to most scummy, I could potentially see wave and Palmar swipping slots his case on yamato wasn't really that bad, and his insistence coupleled with the push looks pretty good and his ability to troll early has me having some decent feelings about him I think. Yamato has probably dropped off the most over the past cycle for me, it is really worrying that hes quit playing right now right when people are starting to talk about him instead of fighting against it. Its a scum trait of his that I've seen in the past so hes dropping pretty fast. Trfel...trfel.... I thought he was town early with his postings looked pretty decent. Now idk, it looks kind of rough to me. And granted I might just be looking at something badly here, but I still think him trying to invalidate his own read and then not responding to a longer post that I made unless i missed it still has me worrying. Art even though hes claiming earlier that hes trying not to be so posty hasn't really influenced the game I think, and honestly looks super disinterested in pushing discussion or anything related to game solving. Which is a really broad statement I know, but its just how i feel about him currently. | ||
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On April 26 2015 04:11 rsoultin wrote: okay, not gonna lie, looking back through bresh's filter it's a lot of townreads/defending people he has no scumreads but loosely links me to yamato in the sense that we were townreading each other but i think the oddest part to me is his day 2 play? lol >< literally for the first 24 hours after the flip he only comments on whether or not the blue role should claim, how likely it is scum withheld their shot, and presses palmar for why palmar says bresh is his top town...like of all the things to be interested in that seems very strange although he makes it clear he's not townreading yamato, he really did never talk about him like ever...most everyone else he gave reasons for why he was townreading them, something behind his read, but not yamato i dunnae i think the fact that he's pretty reasonable and not antagonizing people is generating a misconception of how valuable he's actually been this game...the bh push looks like mostly policy until late in the day, and he even agrees that another 24 hours may be better but he's not willing to do so lol >< something seems off to me about breshke. his vote on Wave at the beginning, too, fell flat as a joke :/ This is interesting though | ||
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First page of breshkes filter is dedicated to basically talking about wave for the most part. There were two or three posts I really liked on this part, the first was asking about why wave liked one vote better than another and why did he pick breshke. I really liked the thought put into this I think. A bit of overexplaining on the joke vote though that I didn't notice. Really playful though at the start of second page with me, and i like that. Its obvious i'm being forced to do things and i'm being an ass sorta especially towards my waifu, but plays along to get me involved in the thread. I really could see town motivation to do this. I also see a good bit of reasoning and thought for some of the town reads, and even the vote on BH isn't bad, its poe but he explains it decently well. Page two looks really towny to me honestly. Page three is a bit hit and miss not much activity, I don't think its necessarily fair to say that bresh doesn't have any scum reads, obviously voting for yamato. And is using a sort of POE list early when not much information is in the thread. I can see scum sorta doing this, but not scumbreshke. After reading the filter again with all of this in mind I still give him a town stamp of approval at this point. | ||
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Page two of Breshkes filter just looks really good, for example why would you get someone who is disinterested in the game involved in the game and give them content when they are a good chance for a mislynch at that point. I just have a hard time seeing some of these thoughts froms cum breshke | ||
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I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me. Talk to me about someone else. | ||
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On April 26 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote: I'll be honest i'm probably not going to look in depth at his other scum games at this point, i really don't think i want to lynch him today unless you wow me here Rsoultin. I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me. Talk to me about someone else. -shrugs- i think you underestimate how easy it is to coast as scum on day 1 perhaps because you've been so bussy lately, but that's neither here nor there i'm not interested in talking about townreads? though i guess truffle is worth discussing...like, i'm actually still super fine with him this game >< i just finished his filter, and this backtracking y'all mentioned seems confined to the metaread portion and general insecurity? he's lost a lot of games recently (based on his own decisions) and if he's not confident in meta why would he pretend to be otherwise? not to mention just getting vig shot lol >< for anyone with an ego, that smarts (i was upset when i thought it was possible i was vig shot in xxx) my main concern is i haven't seen him lately, frankly I'm generally not really bussy on d1, like in aperture i don't think ir eally did anything d1 so i know about sliding by d1. Besides that when i'm generally involved i try not to let anyone coast by I believe. Which btw i don't think what breshke did d1 is necessarily sliding by. I'm fine with not talking about townreads unless you think i'm drastically off on someone in the circle i had constructed. Besides that, even if you take away the lost games trfel never lost the sense of being right. Even in the game that i can't mention Trfel was sure of himself up to that point. | ||
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On April 26 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2015 05:44 Damdred wrote: On April 26 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote: On April 26 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote: I'll be honest i'm probably not going to look in depth at his other scum games at this point, i really don't think i want to lynch him today unless you wow me here Rsoultin. I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me. Talk to me about someone else. -shrugs- i think you underestimate how easy it is to coast as scum on day 1 perhaps because you've been so bussy lately, but that's neither here nor there i'm not interested in talking about townreads? though i guess truffle is worth discussing...like, i'm actually still super fine with him this game >< i just finished his filter, and this backtracking y'all mentioned seems confined to the metaread portion and general insecurity? he's lost a lot of games recently (based on his own decisions) and if he's not confident in meta why would he pretend to be otherwise? not to mention just getting vig shot lol >< for anyone with an ego, that smarts (i was upset when i thought it was possible i was vig shot in xxx) my main concern is i haven't seen him lately, frankly I'm generally not really bussy on d1, like in aperture i don't think ir eally did anything d1 so i know about sliding by d1. Besides that when i'm generally involved i try not to let anyone coast by I believe. Which btw i don't think what breshke did d1 is necessarily sliding by. I'm fine with not talking about townreads unless you think i'm drastically off on someone in the circle i had constructed. Besides that, even if you take away the lost games trfel never lost the sense of being right. Even in the game that i can't mention Trfel was sure of himself up to that point. lol you and i have a very different interpretation of truffle! he usually writes his doubts right into his reads like an argument with himself before settling on a final alignment. i don't really call that "sure" of himself a sign that he's actually considering both sides is usually what alerts me to his being town The post i specifically talked about I am not so sure that he is considering both sides. Hes going really really hard on the fact that yamato is scum. Then he brings doubt in a really fabricated way, he doesn't necessarily show why hes doubting just puts it there. | ||
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Guardians, the student mafia games. And his scum games always lacks that, even if hes wrong he always pushes. Here...hes always second guessing himself on everything he puts out it feels like. | ||
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If you think Yamato is scum, do you really see scum breshke going for the bus in this situation? | ||
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Gotta think about that a bit more, and no that's not crazy paranoid. | ||
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On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting. | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote: On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote: Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin. artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting. hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway give me a bit to look into that Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially. But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff. But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think? | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote: On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote: On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote: On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote: Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin. artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting. hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway give me a bit to look into that Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially. But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff. But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think? that's a fair point. i thought he was scumreading yamato though? On April 24 2015 22:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I definitely don't want to lynch Yamato today or probably any day. His mafia game is much worse than what he's shown so far and he cares too much. Just an exert then we have this On April 26 2015 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Meta is great though. Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things. Actually a problem I see in his filter is that he's droning on about the same things over and over again. First WoS, then the thing with me on waiting for Palmar/BH to contribute, and then on BH. He doesn't really re-evaluate anything nor does he share many thoughts on other things than whatever he's chasing at the time. Could prob lynch/10. On April 26 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote: On April 26 2015 03:20 rsoultin wrote: On April 21 2015 12:08 WaveofShadow wrote: They were real reads before I realized the premise was wrong. And why the fuck do I have to call you town? Why are you fishing for townreads from me yamato? You're behaving so oddly, and it's not even your normal hyper-aggressive early game push that Im used to. I just wanted to wreck scum with you for once. Just once. Apparently it was too much to ask. from the one who doesn't like to use meta xP It's an observation, and I'm not calling him scum based on that. He's absolutely behaving oddly, even ignoring what I already know of him. On April 26 2015 03:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On April 26 2015 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things. Where did I do this? And no in my experience meta is shit terrible, and I am certainly not marv, one of very few people who can maybe attempt to use it correctly. essentially the call is are we feeling lynchy or do we wait for yamato And frankly by the time 48h rolls around im always feeling lynchy I want to see a flip so I'll sheep rsoul ##unvote ##vote: yamato77 Sorry, I didn't mean that you did this, I meant that I did that. So that means you found him town earlier based on him pushing some stuff 'cause meta and now you're rethinking it? Basically, yes. I think I might want to lynch Damdred over him though. His list post is followed by a bunch of fluff that doesn't really say anything and doesn't have any of the intricate reads Damdred usually has. It's so unrefined and fluffy, and his apologetic tone on "I know it's pretty global" only compounds it. Finally this, i went through Arts filter and there is no Yamato scum read in it. Just things like, I could make better posts but that doesn't make Yamato scum etc., | ||
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This is actually really productive i'm ok keeping it going, unless town jesus rsoultin tells me otherwise | ||
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We are automatically losing 24 hours of information due to the silent nights. If we extend our lynching cycle by 24 hours unless hapa says otherwise we should just add an extra 24 hours to what we would normally do. So we should lynch tomorrow at this time. It extends the game but we get more information in the same amount of cycles I think. | ||
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So, I actually feel kinda good about what i'm saying about Artanis right here, what changed from point A to point B on Yamato necessarily? Just Palmar dropping a decent case that Art doesn't even sheep but pushes me instead. I like that. | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote: Palmar is going to be kinda pissy but that will be ok. So, I actually feel kinda good about what i'm saying about Artanis right here, what changed from point A to point B on Yamato necessarily? Just Palmar dropping a decent case that Art doesn't even sheep but pushes me instead. I like that. lol my only real reservation there damdy is that post really wasn't any good or up to your usual standards the timing is certainly interesting, though >< i take it from your comment that you don't consider artanis to generally be an omgus type of player? Artanis doesn't seem like the type of player to give into omgus. I sort of hesitate to an extent just because I was so meh before the past 4 pages more than likely, however why would you town read me before this cycle when that first sorta list post today had any sort of real reads in it and any thought. So not sure why art would flip so fast just because I pinged him out, its not like i wasn't crappy before that point. | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: i'll rephrase; it was decent but not super!damdy like most of us have come to expect the more i talk to you though the more i think you probably are just in a slump. i like where your head's at 3 finals papers 5 16 hour days in a row. 12 hours of sleep in 7 days 5 days so far. Just one shift to go! | ||
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On April 22 2015 06:48 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2015 06:45 rsoultin wrote: On April 22 2015 06:43 yamato77 wrote: On April 22 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote: On April 22 2015 06:37 yamato77 wrote: On April 22 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote: On April 22 2015 06:31 yamato77 wrote: like, the advantage of IML to me is that it's REALLY easy to put pressure on people by just piling a few votes on and making that player respond to them alignments are generally more obvious as someone is going to get lynched in a normal game, you really only get the chance to do this to like, one or two people per day but in IML you can do it to literally every person sure, we have all the time in the world, but it's stupid to waste it waiting on known trolls like BH/Palmar to play the game then who do you want to lynch in the next 2.5 hours, yama? the point is the threat of the lynch you use it actively as a tool to force people to play the game you don't use it passively and hope they play the game then do it? no one is stopping you do you think he's town, or something? Why do you wish to play foil? xP i'm going to vote for who i think is scum, and i'm not interested in rushing a vote today. i think artie wanting to give bh/palmar time to participate isn't scum-favored and this whole push is silly -shrugs- but he's actively using it as an excuse to do fuck-all himself. Like, he's waiting on the two players in this game that I would have ZERO expectation to suddenly become active of their own free will. Maybe you don't have the history with BH/Palmar but I do, and Artanis should know better than to passively wait for them to play. I'm fine with the idea of not lynching today, but you can't just sit back and expect the game to come to you. I was rereading Yamatos filter, and I really really like this post. and exchange | ||
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His reaction to who people target is really good I thought at points, his play today has been abysmal though is the only thing that is bad. But I also remember in mini mafia 2 his activity day 2 which was on a weekend/Friday just totally flatlined. really like this post to, it shows a form of thought and insight I wouldn't expect from scum yamato even if its a bit basic On April 23 2015 07:28 yamato77 wrote: I don't like Artanis' post where he comments on the case offhandedly and then votes trfel but I also don't like trfel calling me mafia for shit reasons and then sheeping the BH lynch | ||
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You can convince people to vote on the person you want even if you spend 5 posts in a given phase doing so, rather than half heartidly putting shade on people as has been done previously. For example X shouldnt' be the lynch it should be Y. Is all fine and good if its met with any substantial post explaining why exactly that person is scum which doesn't take a substantial amount of time to do. For example you quoted my read on truffle and then quoted his posts but drew no conclussions at all from my post, nor the implications of what that means. This is a major red flag, nor do you give any real explanation on why they should lynch me just that I am full of fluff and my reads aren't as intricate. That is not a good reason o lynch someone | ||
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Also people fall rise or stay neutral, I doubt ita even your posting less that truly has me scumreading you but there is little purpose or real drive when you post and the follow up and wanting to lynch who you want is lacking. And when something does happen feels superficial | ||
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1) Art 2)Yamato 3) breahke then general thoughts | ||
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I really like brwshkes and waves latest postings. I really want both your thoughts about arts postings and my responses and push on him. While I halfheartedly agree with you wave that pulling someone back into a game isn't necessarily only town I don't think I would do it as scum especially someone who is halfway a decent player (which is a bit of an ego thing) I know me personally id just let them rot in purgatory for lynch later. | ||
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Rsoul wave truffle damdred art bresh yamato ? | ||
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I actually think Yamato is towny in his filter I did a bit of research on yamatos scum games. He's not really destroying thread here and much more active than his sxum games. He has fallen off considerably this 48 hours and that is a red flag but he did the same thing in mini mafia 2 which just ended. I don't think it 100% clears him but I think his filter is really indicative of a town Yamato at this point. | ||
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And nah palmar can be that as scum to | ||
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On April 26 2015 12:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote: I've added like 4 pages to my filter in 6 hours that was a dead thread O-o no scum motivation and original content shame on you. And nah palmar can be that as scum to Unfortunately this doesn't mean shit when you're conversing back and forth with obvtown and you're not under any real pressure. Despite popular belief, posting is not all that hard as scum, nor is creating content. I'm not a huge fan of clearing people based on number of pages and I don't like that you'd bring it up. I find self-meta to be kinda scummy. I think you missed the obvious sarcasm towards rsoultin in the shame shame part | ||
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I do agree palmar probably isn't scum though. Also I'm not sure its applicable but art has a certain style about reading me based on a carrying few factors and he's not using it here sadly | ||
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Trfel/Artanis Artanis/Yamato Maybe breshke has an outside shot meh | ||
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One thing of note I referenced earlier was how artanis sorta reads me. A lto of the time art waits for me to confirm myself town by just thought splattering when I reach that moment in the game where I "zen". He didn't do it at this point, instead he went from a light town read I believe to somewhat pushing me. Then decided maybe i'm town because I pushed him? It doesn't line up with how art usually reads me | ||
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Leave the Yamato talk alone for a bit and talk about someone else meh. | ||
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I think what I have posted is really good | ||
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Breshkes post towards Yamato about art gave me,bad shivers for some reason...I should reread it when I have time in a few hours. Gotta consolidate between art, Trfel maybe breshke. I'm listening to all cases. | ||
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I won't lynch Yamato. I've never seen scumyamato put that much words in when he's about to get lynched. Its really towny and has a clear focus | ||
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##vote artanis | ||
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No I've been pretty clear with what my problems are. You have my attention rsoultin, even though Trfel has done less than breshke let sigh | ||
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And no honestly I have no time to rehash what . Is clear in my filter its not ego at all. Nor am I stopping you from just focusing on Scum reads. | ||
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April 27 2015 00:23 GMT
#1014
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April 27 2015 00:43 GMT
#1016
You can't say that then say lol Tommorow. | ||
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April 27 2015 02:57 GMT
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April 27 2015 04:04 GMT
#1023
As such I don't think anyone doesn't enjoy playing with you honestly, I enjoy it I know at least. Trfel broke my heart though and my scum read. I don't want to lynch trfel today for sure, also I'm really not ignoring you lol. Just waiting on reasoning for wanting to put me back in the acum pool | ||
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April 27 2015 04:12 GMT
#1025
just yea | ||
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April 27 2015 13:07 GMT
#1039
hrmmm | ||
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April 27 2015 22:02 GMT
#1059
Whats the plan | ||
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April 27 2015 22:07 GMT
#1062
Its enough for me to legit drop my scum read. | ||
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April 27 2015 22:15 GMT
#1065
ITs been an interesting web of intrigue | ||
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April 27 2015 22:20 GMT
#1071
Honestly, i'm kind of feeling like Art has been towny this day to a certain extent ##Unvote Which leaves this weird zone of Breshke/Palmar/Wave. -_- | ||
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April 27 2015 22:42 GMT
#1086
you are tempting me | ||
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April 27 2015 23:38 GMT
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April 28 2015 17:26 GMT
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April 28 2015 22:28 GMT
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How long till,deadline | ||
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April 28 2015 22:37 GMT
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May 04 2015 01:39 GMT
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Anyway Gg all. | ||
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May 04 2015 01:43 GMT
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Ty for the game. I actually didn't like this form of iml I thought it cheap end the lynch a little. | ||
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