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On July 27 2015 07:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: scott replaced Flexes...uh oh that may or may not be an improvement judging by how often scott posts. Anyway, welcome buddy. You really shouldn't be hating my friend! | ||
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On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I gotta go to bed. shoot Fexexs. check tictactoe. i think they are the last mafia. i think moosy is not mafia. be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM. i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia. Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy? It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed? | ||
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On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote: I did NOT get roleblocked last night. And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check. Who do you think are the last two mafia? | ||
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On July 27 2015 18:50 Rels wrote: Why Sulfurus has to be mafia: the easiest case in the world 1. Did nothing for half of day 1 Yes. In spoiler you will find the only post Sulfurus made D1. Not even good apparently. + Show Spoiler + 2. His playstyle Sulfurus played three games prior to this one: newbie X, XI and XII. He was lynched in all three. In the first he was VT (see? I'm learning). In the other two he was GF. He had the same playstyle that is displayed is this game; very few posts, not much explanations, sudden attacks on people. I just can't believe he would keep this style if he was townie. 3. Voting on Barakos Sulfurus voted on Barakos after half of D1, clearly sheeping the thread sentiment. While voting for a mafia is never scum indicative, the way he did it is not town indicative either because: - Barakos hadn't posted for 8 hours at the time. - He almost only talked about Barakos. In fact, he only made two meaningful post: one case on Barakos, and one case on noobking. We'll talk about the noobking's post later, no worries. 4. No explanation on his list Sulfurus posted this: But he only explained a few of his reads, ignoring these posts: He even quoted this last post but never answered: Plus, in his Barakos post he said: So he "started" and never continue. 5. He voted moosy with no explanation Moosy was number 2 on his list, and he never explained his read of him. Just voted him off. 6. His case on noobking is bad noobking's defense was good so I have nothing to add here. + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 11:28 n00bKing wrote: Which I probably wouldn't say, if I were Scum, and knew that Barakos was about to flip Red. Like, you're defeating your own argument, without me needing to do anything. Rels is not even trying to scumread me in that post. He's just defending himself. (As he should. I'm not saying it was scum indicative for him to be defending himself, or for him to ONLY be defending himself. I'm just saying he wasn't trying to indicate that anything I said made me Scum at that time.) Uhhh, you are misrepresenting my position. Read what the quote actually says. I did not ever try to say that rayn gave a scum read to Rels. I said that rayn refused to defend Rels. If you doubt that I'm right, ask rayn yourself, I expect he remembers. Keep grasping at those straws. I said he was unmemorable right before saying I was going to look at his filter from that game. After looking at the filter, he has at least 50 posts in that game that are not in the format you were talking about. The fact that I found him to be unmemorable before looking at his filter means nothing. I don't even know what you're trying to say. How is that post from ruXxar a "gem" and how is it supposed to make me look bad? Conclusion Mafia. ##Vote Sulfurus Pretty decent case, I could sheep this.. ##Vote Sulfurus I'm still not caring for TT or n00bking either, n00b is really defensive and doesn't look like his town game. Pretty sure two of the mafia are in these three. I'm doing some research on Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins so I'll be on and off today. | ||
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On July 28 2015 00:06 Rels wrote: Questions for scott: + Show Spoiler + On July 27 2015 22:16 Rels wrote: Two questions. Why is TT really weird ? rayn said "be aware of sulf and breshke" You answer "I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it" But Sulfurus voted 8 minutes after Breshke and didn't move it. Why do you mention Breshke and not Sulfurus ? The tarot thing to being quite off on everything and not on the Bark wagon - he looks better than the other three though I did not know Sulf voted for him eight minutes later and did the same, just that Breshke was the second vote. There's a lot of D1 I have not read yet since joining in. | ||
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On July 26 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can also ask TicTock why he does nothing to push his scumread who is pushing Barakos. Like the latter part of the day he talks way more about me than he talks about Moosy, who is his preferred lynch. He has me as scumread so again (as he did with Rels/NocturneMage early on in the game), he is indirectly defending Barakos - as i said - by not attacking my argument on him (which apparently was even a good one as he said to Damdred on D1) but instead attacking me. As i have pointed out this is really flimsy at best. Everyone knows that, (1) if there is a bad case you cut out the bullshit by telling why the case is bad as you do not want to lynch people based on bad cases as the lynch will most likely hit town, and (2) THEN you push your own case you think is better. In this case, however, Tictock says nothing about the case being bad. If the case is not bad, then it is actually likely the person the case is on, is mafia, and the person making the case is town. It is basic logic. He does not do that. Instead he attacks my credibility by calling me mafia (for reasons that never make anyone mafia). Whatever you say this actually is indirectly defending Barakos, because you cannot possibly think i am mafia for doing what i did on D1 in case Barakos is mafia. Therefore he must think Barakos is town, and then he logically should... well see the couple of paragraphs above. Furthermore he STILL thinks there is a chance i am mafia, which is fucking awful at it's best. Truth to be told based on D1 i am the towniest person in the game, period. PERIOD. If i am alive in LYLO please feel free to call me mafia because THEN it can make sense. Now it doesn't. Noone who is town can actually think i am mafia based on D1. I am the person who has made the most contributive posts in this game. My thought process has been pretty clear all game long. Damdred, who knows me best in this game, thinks i am town. Somehow TicTock twists this into me being mafia. First of all if he cannot read and cannot understand why i say the stuff i do then it's his fault, because my filter is in fact VERY FUCKING CLEAR of what i am pushing and why i say the stuff i do. It never makes me mafia, claiming so is bullshit. I have posted the most in this game, it never makes me mafia, claiming so is bullshit. He claims i can be scum for "used a couple of questions with fordrawn conclusions while pushing Bara". Well yeah, i did that, specifically when i asked him why his scummy post is scummy. HE SAID HIS POST IS SCUMMY HIMSELF!!!! How am i NOT supposed to ask a question with "fordrawn conclusions"?!?!?!?! wow, such train of thought. And this; "2 scum reads (Noc & Bara) were largely parroting other peoples reads". I have NEVER parroted other people in this game regarding Barakos/NM. The conclusion is full-retared. Feel free to point out where my case on Barakos is parroting other people. Feel free to point out where me scumreading NM early on for "producing reads that always have an out" is parroting other people." If you cannot do that, exactly 100% of your case on D1 is bullshit and you should be lynched for a bullshit case which you cannot think makes anyone mafia. So reading thru the thread trying to catch up - Rayn has excellent points here. This fits better than Sulf being mafia - Rels case is decent, but Rayn's right - Damd, Ruxx, and himself are the only ones thinking he's town - and there is little counter so far to Sulf's lynch. A Tictock lynch makes more sense. ##Unvote ##Vote: Tictock | ||
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On July 25 2015 13:51 Tictock wrote: I was a bit worried about n00b earlier in the game here which is why I gave him a card. He just didn't seem very interested, and opening with a vote against Ruxx didn't boad well. However his posting has gotten much better and has been seeming more like his usual self. This post especially sold me: So n00b stands a solid green for me now, pretty much never lynching the guy. Tictock drops this townread on n00b and spends quite a bit of time on it, although has not mentioned much of any body else yet. On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote: I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. So Sulf places the fourth vote on Barakos just before this post. This would be a pretty sick bus when this seems like a pretty good post (one of his best so far) - I just don't see the bus yet. Rayn's the UNCC'ed Vet and I'm town. I'm pretty confident that dis is town as well. Moosy looks townie to me as well. Damdred gets a townlean for now, we will color him as well - his instincts and questioning seem townie. So I'm at - Final Day 1 Votecount barakos (8): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Breshke, Sulfurus, Rels, damdred, n00bKing, NocturneMage moosydoosy (2): nocturnemage (0): ruxxar (0): barakas (0): rels (0): rayn (0): Not voting (3): moosydoosy, barakos, Flexes barakos is set to be lynched! We have Rels voting for Bara - and then N00bking goes after Sulfurus on Barakos - On July 25 2015 17:26 n00bKing wrote: Like, everything you say here is pointless, false, or BOTH. Would it help if I quoted FIFTY posts from Barakos in Newbie X that are neither block-y nor rectangular? Because they are there. And it also isn't true that in this game, the only post from him that is block-y and rectangular is the one you quoted. Posts 12 and 13 in his filter from this game use the formatting you're talking about, even though they were both after the post that you quoted. He ends a sentence, starts a new line, but does not put in a line break to start a new paragraph. Just as was often (but not always) seen in his posts in Newbie X, and that's what gives some of his posts that distinctive layout. So again, even if what you were saying was true, I don't think it would matter. But it's not true. There are some good reasons to be suspicious of Barakos. This crap about the shape of his posts AIN'T those good reasons. So I understand why people are saying that it looks like you might be reaching for new reasons to sheep thread sentiment, instead of just sheeping the reasons that were already given. This seems like an attempt at a defense but not. N00b goes to bed and does not vote. TT votes moosy Ruxx votes Rayn on a "TMI scumslip" lol On July 25 2015 22:06 ruXxar wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote rayn Sorry buddy, it happens to everyone. Noob finally jumps on Barakos the next day at 13:04, when the lynch is about set (Bara has six votes) On July 26 2015 05:04 n00bKing wrote: So yeah. All that stuff about him giving analysis on a better lynch target, and doing a better job of defending himself, obviously did not happen. One of the other things I was scumleaning him for (which I don't remember reading from anyone else, though I might have skimmed some of the longer cases on him, since I was already scumleaning him myself, and was waiting to see if he would come back and perform better to change my mind) was the appeal to emotion in that same post (the post that everyone hates). Appeal to emotion is a mafia tactic. He complains about the poor weather and feeling bad, and the headaches. So that he'll be a sympathetic figure in our subconscious, and not someone we want to kick out of the game right away before he can have any fun. I've seen scum players do this kind of thing in a few of the games I've been in (outside TL) and we also JUST saw JonnyLaw do it as scum in the Lost But Not Forgotten game. Any true-to-life excuse that they can use to get sympathy (without needing to lie about it) is a tough opportunity to pass up. My other arguments against Barakos feel like a re-hash, so I'll stop after just adding that one point. Since no one seems to want to help me pressure Rels... ##Unvote ##Vote: Barakos So the n00b vote or NM vote could be a bus - beyond that - I think everyone on that wagon is town. | ||
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I'm the cop and have a green check on MoosyDoosy. My crumb in this message - On July 28 2015 03:16 scott31337 wrote: Pretty decent case, I could sheep this.. ##Vote Sulfurus I'm still not caring for TT or n00bking either, n00b is really defensive and doesn't look like his town game. Pretty sure two of the mafia are in these three. I'm doing some research on Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins so I'll be on and off today. If you look up "Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins" the first link is http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24607852 If you look up TL's post 24607852 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24607852 Is On July 27 2015 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: We most likely have a cop and a green check on moosy. So get your votes off of me NOW PLEASE! | ||
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On July 29 2015 05:26 scott31337 wrote: Fuck looks like votes are on me - I guess I have to do this now. I'm the cop and have a green check on MoosyDoosy. My crumb in this message - If you look up "Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins" the first link is http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24607852 If you look up TL's post 24607852 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24607852 Is So get your votes off of me NOW PLEASE! | ||
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There's a GF still so don't 100% trust the check. | ||
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We can get Mage tomorrow okay? I want TT dead, I just also read his case on me. Rayn wants TT dead too. | ||
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Things got interesting while I was at lunch! How come no one is talking about the fact that Scott didn't enter the game until the beginning of Day 2? /QUOTE] Because I didn't get my role PM until the beginning of day 2... How fucking insightful! | ||
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On July 29 2015 15:55 ruXxar wrote: Last mafia N00b + moosy. It makes too much sense. N00b insisted he would've gotten moosy lynched for sure if he was mafia. Not so easy when moosy is your partner. Also he was scared as shit of getting cop checked because he's the role blocker. Moosy is the god father. He admitted several times in the thread that he is mafia and doesn't give a shit about the game in general. His day 1 was atrocious and he had no opinion of anyone all day. He was paying 0 attention to the thread and threw ad hom attacks en masse after me. He was figuratively begging to be cop checked by his play. Moosy, get dunked. Your "hurr durr I'm mafia" play isn't going to work any longer. These are my thoughts as well at the moment. I think we lynch n00b tomorrow. | ||
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On July 30 2015 04:22 n00bKing wrote: Put yourself in my shoes. Why in the hell would I explain anything else to you, ever again? I've explained things and explained things, and explained things, and nothing ever penetrates. You just come back (EVERY time) with "Durrrr....I still don't understand!" So this is just another thing that I could explain until I'm blue in the face, and you'll either (by some miracle) still not get it, if you're Town, or pretend to not get it, if you're Scum. Moosy had the right attitude toward you all along. I'm ashamed that it took me longer to figure it out than it did for him. Remember when I said I wanted you to play in my 4th Newbie game, so my mind could be blown by the notion that someone who plays like you do could be listed as a "veteran" player? I changed my mind. Please do not participate in my 4th Newbie game. And Dear Mafia, Remember how I asked you to not kill me on Night 1, because it was my birthday? I changed my mind about that too. PLEASE kill me on Night 2. This is some Appeal to Emotion if I have ever seen it - and to think you might ever die tonight or any night... | ||
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I've re-read his filter, and his last post is - On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote: Just got home from work. So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions. - why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke) - one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up) - Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation) Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great. Reading a few filters... I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance... Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny. I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great." And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure. I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games. He doesn't have a huge filter, but here he seems to be looking at the game in an attempt to figure it out - He also checked previous games and doing filter reading (Doing an LS thing) He also posted about "the scum thread" - if it's his first game and he's scum, was this a dumbtell?..hmmm I mean, I want to have him kick it up a notch for sure, he just looks like a low posting townie. | ||
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On July 30 2015 05:07 Damdred wrote: Scott, as town when your top scum read votes someone before you do. Do you become hesitant to lynch that person or just pile on. I usually become hesitant until re-reading the votes or the reasoning - because it's either a bus or the person is town, and from my experience, they're town. A few times I haven't even had time to double check the votes before I add my vote because they seem to be the most scummy. Is there a reason you are curious? From my experience, it makes sense to. | ||
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I don't want to town to tunnel on the "last four" (Breshke, n00bking, NoctMage, and MoosyDoosy) but I am pretty confident the last two mafia are here, and I think it's N00b/Moosy at the moment, but don't get tunnelled! Scott31337 Yeah I'm the cop and I'm sure I got roleblocked unless Mafia is on more drugs (Hey they didn't RB their vet shot which is mafia 101 when they know the setup, so who knows) Rayn Nuff said. Rels Was roleblocked, 99% town, has good thoughts into the game and is doing well. if he's alive D5, then we get suspicious. Disformation Would be my second in the list - trying to find holes, looking into the game critically. ruXXar Also scumhunting, although I don't want him to get too tunneled. A Slight possibility his scumgame is pretty good and won the last two. Damdred Has good thoughts and love, he'd be next. NoctureMage - last filter dive of him I think he's a low posting town Breshke - just soo In the middle - nothing interesting... I just don't know. Moosy - has a green check - could be the GF - hard defends n00bKing - n00bKing Is playing extremely different than his first town game he got killed day one - He's been extremely defensive, and his shitfest with Rels, possible bus - I just don't see him as town. Shit I ran out of time guys | ||
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On July 29 2015 03:26 Tictock wrote: Humm. You are voting for me, but you are not reading my posts... I posted a list of all the games Bre's been in, his alignments, and links to his filters. Copied it from the TL Mafia Database... Wondering if Ruxx is actually Mafia here now. He's been all over the place, voted off the Bara wagon (with me no less) and doesn't really seem to care where his vote goes EXPECT he never once put it on Bara. Interesting. Just sayin that if I do get lynched here it's pretty obv that you all should look harder at Scott and Ruxx tomorrow for their votes on me. I'm just trying to find other possibilities and see if there's anything good in TT's filter. If it's not N00b/Moosy or n00b/somebody - I re-read Sulf's/Breshke's/Mage's posts and not seeing a mafia agenda there (the strongest would be mage, or Sulf/Breshke did the phat bus) but then it could be Damdred/Rels planned a fat bus on Barakos after his shitpost, bussed him to death - know there's a veteran and do not roleblock anybody and Rels claims RB and flies the game to victory. The sexiest of tinfoil theories but I'm trying everything. Damdred could you remind me what's scummy about Mage? | ||
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and a hard town read is mafia | ||
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On August 01 2015 06:56 ruXxar wrote: Here's a tip people: The scum is n00bking and Damdred. Damd probably doesn't care who it goes to on Bresh/Sulf/NM because they are all town right? and people aren't going to vote for rels or me | ||
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It could almost be anybody in my opinion. | ||
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Rels may have pulled off the sick RB play but is extremely doubtful too unless he doesn't die tomorrow or d5 (I'm 100% confirmed, Rels is like 99%, they may RB me another day and kill him) N00b I'm still suspicious of, although he pulled off a lot during today - although extremely defensive.. I think he's second to last, Sulfurus - He'd be third still - this sucks without filters right now (I know of Ruxx's link) ruXxar - He's a possibility in a tinfoil hat world - I don't see the super tunnels and decent analysis though as mafia -but he's a paranoid one when I've read his last two games as mafia though. disinformation - he just seems like honest, talking all the time on his thoughts town - he's probably second or third under Rels and you - One I'd probably let him win if he's the last mafia he's felt that "townie" and mafia award scum game if he is. Breshke - lowest lean I'd say - he was slightly better this day - but he's just so "in the middle" it seems. My heart says its ruxxar with some sickplays tinfoil. My mind says it's Breshke. | ||
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On August 01 2015 08:30 Sulfurus wrote: Speaking for myself the EOD heavily exhausted me so I took a much needed lunch break. Look at this: + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2015 22:45 LightningStrike wrote: Day 3 Votecount n00bking (4): ruXxar, scott31337, Rels, Sulfurus NocturneMage (4): Damdred, disformation, n00bKing, Breshke Not Voting (1): NocturneMage n00bKing is set to be lynched! I appologize because the new website seemed to mess up filters and I hope it just temporary T_T This vote was taken pretty earlier in the day right after Breshke put his vote on NocturneMage and never took it off. You never do this as mafia especially in a split vote. I am going to be extremely hesitant to vote anyone who lynched NM but Breshke is basically confirmed town. This is a really good point - and we know there's only one mafia left now. | ||
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On August 01 2015 10:56 disformation wrote: I could tell you a tale of waffleboy lynching his #2 scum read over his #1 scum read and getting pocketed by said #1 scum read the very next day. Turned out the #1 scum read was the GF. Said #2 scum read was VT Sulfurus btw. This was a beautiful story... | ||
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On August 01 2015 08:31 scott31337 wrote: You pulled up another sick bus if it's you - extremely doubtful. Rels may have pulled off the sick RB play but is extremely doubtful too unless he doesn't die tomorrow or d5 (I'm 100% confirmed, Rels is like 99%, they may RB me another day and kill him) N00b I'm still suspicious of, although he pulled off a lot during today - although extremely defensive.. I think he's second to last, Sulfurus - He'd be third still - this sucks without filters right now (I know of Ruxx's link) ruXxar - He's a possibility in a tinfoil hat world - I don't see the super tunnels and decent analysis though as mafia -but he's a paranoid one when I've read his last two games as mafia though. disinformation - he just seems like honest, talking all the time on his thoughts town - he's probably second or third under Rels and you - One I'd probably let him win if he's the last mafia he's felt that "townie" and mafia award scum game if he is. Breshke - lowest lean I'd say - he was slightly better this day - but he's just so "in the middle" it seems. My heart says its ruxxar with some sickplays tinfoil. My mind says it's Breshke. Unsure what you mean and what you want more here. | ||
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We got another ML - I should die, or RB me and Rels should die - if this does not happen - you should question why not. Mafia 101 (I still wonder why the hell mafia RB'ed not their veteran, ) | ||
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Breshke 4-4 vote -Sulf pointed it out - we only have one mafia left - why would he do this? townie strat IMO | ||
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On August 01 2015 08:31 scott31337 wrote: You pulled up another sick bus if it's you - extremely doubtful. Rels may have pulled off the sick RB play but is extremely doubtful too unless he doesn't die tomorrow or d5 (I'm 100% confirmed, Rels is like 99%, they may RB me another day and kill him) N00b I'm still suspicious of, although he pulled off a lot during today - although extremely defensive.. I think he's second to last, Sulfurus - He'd be third still - this sucks without filters right now (I know of Ruxx's link) ruXxar - He's a possibility in a tinfoil hat world - I don't see the super tunnels and decent analysis though as mafia -but he's a paranoid one when I've read his last two games as mafia though. disinformation - he just seems like honest, talking all the time on his thoughts town - he's probably second or third under Rels and you - One I'd probably let him win if he's the last mafia he's felt that "townie" and mafia award scum game if he is. Breshke - lowest lean I'd say - he was slightly better this day - but he's just so "in the middle" it seems. My heart says its ruxxar with some sickplays tinfoil. My mind says it's Breshke. KK Sulf has a good point on the 4-4 on Breshke - we only have one mafia left so no one is going to bus or convince here. Townie logic. Dis is still my solid townie friend and logic based. 1st Damdred fought the lynch and got it on NM - he did this and was townie in my NSM game when he was town thinking logic - 2nd Rels is thinking well but cannot let him carry this RB block - 3rd - IF HE DOES NOT DIE D5 worry. Sulf and Breshke just talked about each other votes and they make sense - why not vote the other /etc on NM? wonder bacon N00b would be my lynch tomorrow. I still think a vet would concede - WIFOM - Ruxxar makes me worried. RUXXAR makes me worried. We got this game - but do not get tunnelled! I may not reply before day. | ||
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On August 01 2015 22:36 disformation wrote: Not much time today either. =/ Will have more time again. starting tomorrow. But let us look at the votes: If I remember right, Damdred was on scum way earlier, but his first vote didn't count because of a typo. So we have ruXxar voting for town. And of course some of the ppl on barakos who could have easily bussed him. n00bKing was kinda late to this wagon, but he had some posts through the day indicating that he will switch to barakos, should he not show up. Genuine or setting up for the bus? Nocturne was on scott, lolz. A lot of very towny ppl were on TT... was scum at all on the TT wagon? There might not have been any need to. Left are ruXxar and n00bKing... Here we either have an incredible bus by Breshke or Sulfurus (don't really think so though). I am still on Sulf because my last minute vote didn't go through. Might make me look a bit worse for trying to get last minute town cred or something. Otherwise we are left with Rels, n00bKing and ruXxar. So yeah... unless Sulfurus or Breshke set up some really sick busses D1 AND D3 we are pretty much left with n00bKing or ruXxar. Shocking. Other opinions? Did I miss something? Nope, you pretty much have all the information you need here, my friend <3 If n00b and ruxx are dead and the game is not ever, it's rels or damdred (you'll be dead but you need to leave a memory to remind the town of such, they pretty tunnelly) | ||
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Oregon Trail gravestone here lies Scott Died of dysentery "Lynch n00b sulf ruxxar GG do not fail me town" | ||
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On August 02 2015 02:51 Rels wrote: Vote recaps Day 1 final vote barakos (8): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Damdred, Breshke, Sulfurus, Rels, n00bKing, NocturneMage MoosyDoosy (2): NocturneMage (0): ruxxar (0): rels (0): raynpelikoneet (0): Not voting (3): MoosyDoosy, Barakos, Flexes + Show Spoiler + Day 1 vote recap H00M25 n00bKing voted for ruXxar H09M19 raynpelikoneet voted for Barakos H10M53 Rels voted for NocturneMage H15M45 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy H17M47 Rels unvoted H17M47 Rels voted for MoosyDoosy H18M59 Rels unvoted H21M06 disformation voted for Barakos H22M14 Damdred voted for barakos H22M59 n00bKing unvoted H22M59 n00bKing voted for Rels H26M49 Breshke voted for Barakos H26M57 Sulfurus voted for Barakos H33M53 Rels voted for Barakos H35M31 Tictock voted for MoosyDoosy H39M06 ruXxar unvoted H39M06 ruXxar voted for rayn H40M12 ruXxar unvoted H40M12 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy H46M04 n00bKing unvoted H46M04 n00bKing voted for Barakos H46M20 NocturneMage voted for Barakos Day 2 final vote MoosyDoosy (1): sulfurus (0): TicTock (7): n00bking (0): breshke (0): scott31337 (1): NocturneMage (2): rels (1): n00bKing + Show Spoiler + Day 2 vote recap H04M48 TicTock voted for MoosyDoosy H05M33 Sulfurus voted for MoosyDoosy H06M04 n00bKing voted for Sulfurus H06M08 raynpelikoneet voted for TicTock H11M01 disformation voted for Sulfurus H11M50 Rels voted for Sulfurus H16M47 MoosyDoosy voted for Sulfurus H16M57 NocturneMage voted for Sulfurus H20M16 scott31337 voted for Sulfurus H22M46 scott31337 unvoted H22M46 scott31337 voted for TicTock H23M07 disformation unvoted H24M01 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy H26M12 ruXxar unvoted H26M12 ruXxar voted for n00bking H32M49 TicTock unvoted H32M49 TicTock voted for Breshke H34M01 Rels unvoted H34M01 Rels voted for TicTock H35M35 TicTock unvoted H35M35 TicTock voted for scott31337 H37M25 Breshke voted for MoosyDoosy H40M24 ruXxar unvoted H40M24 ruXxar voted for TicTock H44M03 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy (fake vote) H44M43 Damdred voted for scott31337 H44M53 disformation voted for scott31337 H45M07 Breshke unvoted H45M07 Breshke voted for scott31337 H45M20 MoosyDoosy unvoted H45M20 MoosyDoosy voted for scott31337 H45M27 n00bKing unvoted H45M27 n00bKing voted for scott31337 H45M27 NocturneMage unvoted H45M27 NocturneMage voted for scott31337 H46M06 Damdred unvoted H46M06 Damdred voted for NocturneMage H46M30 TicTock unvoted H46M30 TicTock voted for NocturneMage H46M30 MoosyDoosy unvoted H46M30 MoosyDoosy voted for NocturneMage H46M31 scott31337 unvoted H46M31 scott31337 voted for NocturneMage H46M32 disformation unvoted H46M51 scott31337 unvoted H46M51 scott31337 voted for TicTock H46M56 Sulfurus unvoted H46M56 Sulfurus voted for TicTock H47M05 disformation voted for TicTock H47M19 raynpelikoneet unvoted H47M19 raynpelikoneet voted for scott31337 H47M26 raynpelikoneet unvoted H47M26 raynpelikoneet voted for TicTock H47M27 Damdred unvoted H47M27 Damdred voted for TicTock H47M35 Breshke unvoted H47M35 Breshke voted for TicTock H47M57 n00bKing unvoted H47M57 n00bKing voted for Sulfurus H47M57 n00bKing unvoted H47M57 n00bKing voted for Rels Day 3 final vote NocturneMage (4): Breshke, Sulfurus, Damdred, scott31337 Sulfurus (3): Rels, disformation, n00bKing n00bking (2): ruXxar, NocturneMage + Show Spoiler + Day 2 vote recap Aaaaa no fucking timestamps ruXxar voted for n00bking scott31337 voted for n00bking MoosyDoosy voted for MoosyDoosy Damdred voted for NocturneMage Breshke voted for MoosyDoosy Rels voted for n00bKing disformation voted for NocturneMage Sulfurus voted for n00bKing n00bKing voted for NocturneMage Looks really bad for n00b here - d1 after Rels votes and Barakos is probably toast they go for the phat bus. We know now mafia NM bussed here. D2 he knows TT is town and is toast so he doesn't vote for him and tosses his vote so he doesn't look as bad. NM afk votes me (wasted vote too) D3 NM wagon probably pure as fuck Only thing going for N00b is NM voted for him but after shennanies NM gets lynched anyway but now he wants mad NM props Just don't get tunneled - re-read the game if you have to - We should be okay - I BELIEVE IN YOU!! | ||
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On August 02 2015 02:51 Rels wrote: Vote recaps Day 1 final vote barakos (8): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Damdred, breshke, sulfurus, Rels, n00bKing, NocturneMage MoosyDoosy (2): NocturneMage (0): ruxxar (0): rels (0): raynpelikoneet (0): Not voting (3): MoosyDoosy, Barakos, Flexes + Show Spoiler + Day 1 vote recap H00M25 n00bKing voted for ruXxar H09M19 raynpelikoneet voted for Barakos H10M53 Rels voted for NocturneMage H15M45 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy H17M47 Rels unvoted H17M47 Rels voted for MoosyDoosy H18M59 Rels unvoted H21M06 disformation voted for Barakos H22M14 Damdred voted for barakos H22M59 n00bKing unvoted H22M59 n00bKing voted for Rels H26M49 breshke voted for Barakos H26M57 sulfurus voted for Barakos H33M53 Rels voted for Barakos H35M31 Tictock voted for MoosyDoosy H39M06 ruXxar unvoted H39M06 ruXxar voted for rayn H40M12 ruXxar unvoted H40M12 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy H46M04 n00bKing unvoted H46M04 n00bKing voted for Barakos H46M20 NocturneMage voted for Barakos Day 2 final vote MoosyDoosy (1): sulfurus (0): Tictock (7): n00bking (0): breshke (0): scott31337 (1): NocturneMage (2): rels (1): n00bKing + Show Spoiler + Day 2 vote recap H04M48 TicTock voted for MoosyDoosy H05M33 sulfurus voted for MoosyDoosy H06M04 n00bKing voted for sulfurus H06M08 raynpelikoneet voted for TicTock H11M01 disformation voted for sulfurus H11M50 Rels voted for sulfurus H16M47 MoosyDoosy voted for sulfurus H16M57 NocturneMage voted for sulfurus H20M16 scott31337 voted for sulfurus H22M46 scott31337 unvoted H22M46 scott31337 voted for TicTock H23M07 disformation unvoted H24M01 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy H26M12 ruXxar unvoted H26M12 ruXxar voted for n00bking H32M49 TicTock unvoted H32M49 TicTock voted for breshke H34M01 Rels unvoted H34M01 Rels voted for TicTock H35M35 TicTock unvoted H35M35 TicTock voted for scott31337 H37M25 breshke voted for MoosyDoosy H40M24 ruXxar unvoted H40M24 ruXxar voted for TicTock H44M03 ruXxar voted for MoosyDoosy (fake vote) H44M43 Damdred voted for scott31337 H44M53 disformation voted for scott31337 H45M07 breshke unvoted H45M07 breshke voted for scott31337 H45M20 MoosyDoosy unvoted H45M20 MoosyDoosy voted for scott31337 H45M27 n00bKing unvoted H45M27 n00bKing voted for scott31337 H45M27 NocturneMage unvoted H45M27 NocturneMage voted for scott31337 H46M06 Damdred unvoted H46M06 Damdred voted for NocturneMage H46M30 TicTock unvoted H46M30 TicTock voted for NocturneMage H46M30 MoosyDoosy unvoted H46M30 MoosyDoosy voted for NocturneMage H46M31 scott31337 unvoted H46M31 scott31337 voted for NocturneMage H46M32 disformation unvoted H46M51 scott31337 unvoted H46M51 scott31337 voted for TicTock H46M56 sulfurus unvoted H46M56 sulfurus voted for TicTock H47M05 disformation voted for TicTock H47M19 raynpelikoneet unvoted H47M19 raynpelikoneet voted for scott31337 H47M26 raynpelikoneet unvoted H47M26 raynpelikoneet voted for TicTock H47M27 Damdred unvoted H47M27 Damdred voted for TicTock H47M35 breshke unvoted H47M35 breshke voted for TicTock H47M57 n00bKing unvoted H47M57 n00bKing voted for sulfurus H47M57 n00bKing unvoted H47M57 n00bKing voted for Rels Day 3 final vote NocturneMage (4): breshke, sulfurus, Damdred, scott31337 sulfurus (3): Rels, disformation, n00bKing n00bking (2): ruXxar, NocturneMage + Show Spoiler + Day 2 vote recap Aaaaa no fucking timestamps ruXxar voted for n00bking scott31337 voted for n00bking MoosyDoosy voted for MoosyDoosy Damdred voted for NocturneMage breshke voted for MoosyDoosy Rels voted for n00bKing disformation voted for NocturneMage sulfurus voted for n00bKing n00bKing voted for NocturneMage If I color in who's on the NM wagon D3 since I'm pretty sure they are all town I get this - and this fits - Pretty sure dis is town too - still looks good. Pretty confident it's n00bking or Ruxxar with a light chance of Rels but don't even worry about Rels until day 5. | ||
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On August 02 2015 06:23 Damdred wrote: This is super important and I think tis pretty alignment indicative, one of your top scum reads has a good chance to get lynched do you A) Push against a TT lynch who you think is super town, so town that you post a town case and Vote for Mafia!Mages who you have had a scum read on since d1. B) Vote Mages and push for mages to be lynched since there is a decent shot that he is lynched today with a bit of extra push against raynes lynch. C) Make a town case on TT, never make a vote that can help save your town read and dont' vote for your mafia read who has a chance to ge tlynched while you are in thread. Noob picked C, I don't see town motivation I don't see the town motivation either. :/ and he was sooo confident TT was town. | ||
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On August 02 2015 06:47 Damdred wrote: Yep I don't see how you can say you hard town read someone and not vote for the alternative wagon and afk your vote where it won't do any good? Whats the point of going out of your way to townread someone so hard and not relaly help the lynch in the right direction? I only see scum trying to save a partner and not take any of the bad juju fro a town lynch. And did he honestly think my claim was BS? | ||
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WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM | ||
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He must be trying to discredit me If that's his plan you just lynch him when I flip cop Doesn't make any sense. | ||
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Q: Can town decide to "sleep" or vote for a no-lynch? A: You are allowed to vote for a no-lynch. | ||
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