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On December 03 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote: I back and LIKE I SAID FUCKING VANILLA TOWN -__- Anyways I getting lynched rip LYNCH MOOSEYDOOSEY PLEASE IF I DON'T GET LYNCHED OR AFTER I GET LYNCHED. Dude, chill.
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On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote: I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta. Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation
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@LS, do you genuinely believe Damdred is mafia?
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Does it matter? Moosy's probably going to drop dead for not voting anyway. BH is being pretty clear that you have to actually vote.
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lol
We're so bad.
Well, lynching kush is always a good thing. Dota time.
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damdred probably means LS posted when he thought he was dead that he was town
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My current town circle is:
Damdy LS Shining Me
I don't really trust many other people.
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On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote: Good cop check / vig shot.
Cop check, sure, it's a waste of a check on someone whose alignment is obvious, but sure.
Vigi shot, I will be seriously mad.
Here's the thing, go back to just about every game I play. I should NEVER EVER be vigged. The reason is I am extremely unlikely to be a wildcard. I will always respond to pressure and always play the game. Using a vigilante shot on a player who is all but guaranteed to be active and willing to engage when pressured is a waste of a shot. It's literally the most wrong way to use a vigi shot.
Vigis should focus on killing people who are inactive/not playing/not contributing.
I am more than slightly mad at you for suggesting this, it makes you a bad player to even think this is the correct thing to do.
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Rels, your entire reason for suspecting me is that I didn't have good ideas on day 1. It is not indicative of me being mafia that I lack good ideas. If I'm mafia I can just make up stuff if I want to push things. I genuinely didn't really have a good idea of doing things, in which case I tend to sheep people.
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@Rels, I agree with you on Shining and I agree with you on LS.
I have repeatedly found disformation's posts to be very unforced and easy to follow so I'll accept your town read on him.
HTS/fidei/Trfel, can you give me something to convince me to believe they're all town?
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On December 03 2015 22:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:08 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote: Good cop check / vig shot. Cop check, sure, it's a waste of a check on someone whose alignment is obvious, but sure. Vigi shot, I will be seriously mad. Here's the thing, go back to just about every game I play. I should NEVER EVER be vigged. The reason is I am extremely unlikely to be a wildcard. I will always respond to pressure and always play the game. Using a vigilante shot on a player who is all but guaranteed to be active and willing to engage when pressured is a waste of a shot. It's literally the most wrong way to use a vigi shot. Vigis should focus on killing people who are inactive/not playing/not contributing. I am more than slightly mad at you for suggesting this, it makes you a bad player to even think this is the correct thing to do. Why are you obvious town ? Has your read of DYH evolved beyond "meh he's useless like others" ? I have not read anything by DYH really since then, so no.
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And my alignment is obvious because I just don't play this way as mafia. Even if it isn't obvious to you right now, just try to lynch me later in the game and it will become.
If you haven't played much with me before: I do not like being lynched, I will generally put a lot of effort into not being lynched because I consider whoever gets lynched to be the worst player in the game. This means that I am usually very, very active in defending myself when people want to lynch me. I should never, ever be vigi shot, it is objectively a bad play.
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Yeah, I had some extra time so I decided to push a bit.
I think it was useful! We all think shining is town now!
My damdred townread, is really just wishful thinking. I want him to be town because I cba dealing with him as mafia.
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I actually like Rels right now
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Sort of happy I decided to ignore tinfoil damdred is mafia and just roll with him as town.
I'm not really putting in the effort I should this game, so sorry about that.
I'll make a decision on who I want to lynch tonight or tomorrow.
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On December 04 2015 21:40 Fidei86 wrote: I'm only semi-joking. Like, this game takes a lot of time and just stopping in every 12 hrs like you've been doing recently and giving no content is annoying. It makes you near impossible to read and it makes it less likely anyone will listen to your reads. Are you insane? I have 4 pages of filter in two days with plenty of reads and progression in it. I'm nowhere near lurker level. That's plenty of activity to figure out my alignment on.
The fact I only play at some particular times during the day has mostly to do with work and other real life obligations. I have no idea since when not constantly being in the thread has been a problem.
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Also, if you can't figure out my alignment that's on you, not me. Town hero and eternal leader Damdred figured it out.
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Btw this is the current world view I'm working with:
Probably town:
Rels, for effort (although I know he does it as mafia too, but who cares, he deserves at least to be not the mafia we're looking for). LS (EoD shennies) Shining (his entire reaction to my palmartunnel™ on day 1. Especially the part where he created an excuse to leave the thread and then didn't).
Leaning town:
disformation (mostly a leftover tone read from day 1. I've yet to read a post of his that feels forced or awkward).
People who I have read some parts of, but not really made a judgement on alignment:
Fidei (I liked his first post because he spotted exactly the same thing as I did with regards to shining. I often overvalue such mind-melds, but meh. I feel like I should just sort of give him a pass for today, but I'm not certain).
People who I have ignored/Have little opinion on:
DoYouHas (his filter on day 1 was bad, but I sort of started ignoring him after misreading one of his posts. I should probably have looked into him anyway) HtS (I remember thinking "that's unusually awkward, even for HtS" at some point, but other than that I have generally flat out ignored everything she says. Very worthy candidate to investigate for me)
People I have not read at all The replacements
People who I am slightly suspicious of Trfel (It's sort of a sheep from Damdred, but also his emotional outburst yesterday. He was really over the top about a few people not listening to his read on moosy).
So yeah, I don't have a strong scumread right now. I have no "gotcha, this guy is mafia", but I have a basis to work upon.
Given that hts and dyh are the people with votes on them, I'm going to focus on reading them and the cases for them being mafia. For those of you that haven't played with me before, I have a very annoying habit of ignoring people who are mafia (which is another good reason to look into dyh and hts). Basically the theory is that mafia people just post to fit in, whereas townies are posting a lot more entertaining/insane stuff. So I end up not reading boring mafia posts.
My reads in general are sort of fluid, but I'll figure it out.
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On December 04 2015 22:00 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote: Also, if you can't figure out my alignment that's on you, not me. Town hero and eternal leader Damdred figured it out. Wow you actually do have four pages of filter. Okay. But I do disagree with you viz you "being towny" enough. It's actually not. When you get mislynched its almost always 50% on the idiots who lynched you and 50% on you for being scummy town. That's a really important thing that lots of people forget as town. Dude...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10890802 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10936906
I'm literally the goddamn prophet of "if you get lynched it's your own damn fault". That ties very well into what I was saying earlier about why I should never be vigged.
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