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On February 04 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote: I'm almost certain there was at some point a mafia game where the rebels were mafia and the empire was town. I just can't remember what it was | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:09 Palmar wrote: oh shit, jar jar is snoke and shepherd is indoctrinated | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote: I hate this game already. hi was it jarjar? | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:15 disformation wrote: It is basically my code for marking my first post that is not pre game. hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you. why? | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:45 Palmar wrote: you keep killing it with gifs but if i didn't shitpost, i wouldn't be allowed to post in the thread at all | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:45 disformation wrote: Was kinda waiting for that question to pop up. Well once upon the time damdy told me that he really does not like to be VT. Him opening up like this reminded me of that. Could be easily faked so I call it a super weak/easy TR. You gotta start somewhere. if you were anticipating the question, then why didn't you just say the reason from the start instead of waiting to be prompted? | ||
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On February 04 2016 08:50 disformation wrote: Dunno. Have observed a lot of ppl just throwing out reads, without really bothering to explain them. Wanted to try that style this game a bit. Also more opportunities for interactions like this. so what's my alignment? | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:00 disformation wrote: Does that mean your question is already answered? Hm. Would say your approach/questioning of me is an effort to genuinely trying to figure out my alignment and therefore town. Reminds me a bit of NSM 9. right conclusion, meh reason = meh | ||
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do you think anyone has done anything alignment indicative yet? | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:18 disformation wrote: Sooo... not being familiar with jat, can someone point out what is going on? Feel like this is an insider job and I wasn't invited. bunch of people made top 10 lists in player rankings 2015 thread, jat was not on them and huffed and puffed about it. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:20 Damdred wrote: Disf I think you did answer my question in a good manner that's in line with your past reasoning. Which lends me to think of bad reasoning that dis us town. Anyeay I thinkim just going to ignore jat today and read him during the night. Maybe if I had a hammer I would do it for lolz but not now. no quick read on me, have you given up on it? | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:28 Damdred wrote: I have my quick read on you written down. am trying to focus on scummy things like my hero palmar tells me to. so outside of disfo handing a read out on you, there's nothing that even smells a little funky to you? no tone reads? | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:24 justanothertownie wrote: No. Disfo seems excited/somewhat carefree which is fine but not a strong argument. Otherwise not at all. You won't annoy me with the top 10 stuff and I didn't "huff and puff" about it. I didn't even bring it up. I was just annoyed when Artanis showed that he had no idea what he was talking about regarding my performance last year. if you don't think that anyone has done anything alignment indicative yet, then why aren't you pro-actively pushing for alignment indicative information rather than just sitting around waiting to react to what others are doing? | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:47 disformation wrote: I liked your question to jat. Not 100% sure what to make of the answer though. Inclined to sympathize, since I have a similar behaviour. Care to share your dumb reason? Probably still better than mine. :p nah gonna keep it to myself to see if some1 mindmelds me, damdred might have. | ||
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On February 04 2016 10:45 ritoky wrote: what exactly has koshi done that makes you think he is town? | ||
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On February 04 2016 11:29 darthfoley wrote: I never said Koshi was was town. I said that his play was NAI right now, because I've seen two different types of town Koshis so far. you said he has done things similar to last game where he was town, what are those things? regardless of if you hesitate to call him town, you still state that you've seen things that indicate he is town. | ||
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On February 04 2016 11:01 disformation wrote: phone post from bed. nearly forgot. @NocturneMage: care to remind me what you think of meta reads? this post is terrible in so many ways. | ||
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1) notifying that he is going out of his way to post from an inconvenient place -> notice me senpai 2) "almost forgot" -> something he must tell us! must be important 3) deferring to nocturnemage a) now confirmed not important b) if town is deferring to someone who's alignment he doesn't know for no reason 4) trying to discredit meta which CAN be a useful tool 5) smiley face cuz clearly "i'm joking gaiz" nothing about this post is good in any way. all of it is legit hot trash. | ||
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On February 04 2016 12:15 VayneAuthority wrote: hes basing everything off of recent previous games, I dont see whats so strange about it him pinging out zyrre's single post, but then not interacting with or giving any real opinions on the other 2 people who noticed has nothing to do with previous games. | ||
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On February 04 2016 12:23 disformation wrote: still phone posting from bed cuz cant sleep: my post is amazing and you are bad. will explain after i got my answer. also nearly forgot: your post is bad. you said "remind me" which means you already know the answer so you're not waiting for anything, you're just handing someone who hasn't posted a free entry excuse into the thread for no reason, and this post is just as bad. i am gonna lynch this guy if i keep reading his posts regardless of how i feel about his alignment. i think i am just gonna not read his posts, and when i get a TR sheep their read on him. | ||
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On February 04 2016 12:55 darthfoley wrote: @Damdred I'm not going to use my experience as a crutch this game, so i'm fine defending my reads @Ritoky I think it's perfectly normal to be more comfortable reading people you've played with before. I only brought up the Zyrre thing because I have been scum read for doing a similar "woohoo, i'm town!" post early. Tbf I was town that game. You tell me that I have too much explanation for lack of content, while also giving disformation a hard time for stating reads without explanation. Hopefully i'll find your happy medium soon either you're much improved or town; just wanted early pressure to see how you react. you were much more feeble under pressure in your previous mafia game. | ||
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On February 04 2016 13:11 NocturneMage wrote: No because you are scumreading me for something that don't make me mafia. Your side of the exchange was a grand total of two posts, the second of which was meta - under normal circumstances defensiveness is usually a scummy trait. You not saying it explicitly then was odd to me (no conclusion from the reaction test or his response to it). i don't even understand what you are trying to say here. please try again. | ||
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On February 04 2016 13:13 Chezinu wrote: Red 3 standing by. rip biggs | ||
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On February 04 2016 13:13 NocturneMage wrote: Here's a hint - contrast my null reads with some of the other reads on some of those same people. As in, I cannot see what is so town. Palmar was aggressive IIRC as scum in Outlaw and somewhere in this thread there was a townread on him for aggressive tone. To me that isn't alignment indicative. I don't fully agree with this statement cuz I don't think Palmar was that aggro early in Outlaw...I was the more aggro early mafia in Outlaw on our team, but I agree with the sentiment. There were anime question marks floating above my head when Palmar was cheaply given town reads....you know he is like....good at this game and shit....right? + Show Spoiler + but then again i can just spam lynch palmar in the thread and if i get shot you know he is mafia. that's what i learned from outlaw obsqt | ||
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On February 04 2016 18:16 Rels wrote: This post is weird. Like, ritoky finds disfo's reasonning weird (maybe scum indicative too), but the first thing he states is "right conclusion", as if he wanted to subtily insist of the fact that he's town. bitch please, i ain't dat subtle. | ||
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i don't even understand your post. why does anything you said make me mafia? especially considering you have 0 context for any of it. "ritoky interacts with a ton of people"? what does this even mean for a reason? i ask questions and push for reads and thus am mafia? likewat? | ||
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On February 04 2016 18:43 Rels wrote: Talking about darth right ? No. Why should it ? yes it should inform your read to some degree at least in terms of tone considering this is his first non-student game. | ||
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On February 04 2016 18:48 Palmar wrote: To be fair, if you did this and I am mafia, I would shoot you, every time. no one says palmar is mafia. palmar: gb and ritoky, you do the kills, i am only half paying attention. artanis starts spamming palmar is mafia. palmar: yeah we are changing those, kill artanis classic palmar. | ||
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On February 04 2016 18:55 boxerfred wrote: I read the thread fully. Maybe the word I use is bad: "skim". I think it means that I've read the thread, however I didn't put too much emphasis on everything but instead concentrated on what feels important to me, which in this case would be the interaction between you and disformation. How do you not understand my post? here's a tl;dr: you make up reasons to call disfo's post shit. I have all context for it that I need Oo, the context of the interaction. Regarding the interaction with others: you don't push for reads, you ask random questions to seemingly push for reads imho. You do not follow up, only if you're forced to (as you were when someone asked why you call disfo's post shit). I don't think that's town indicative. Even now you don't reasonably argue why what I say is wrong, instead you say "I dont understand, you lie". The only real argument you say is the last one, and it's a weak one so far. because i think there is a problem in translation here is why i don't understand it. i called his post bad because it is bad. but bad does not necessitate mafia. it is a poor post regardless of alignment and i am undecided on his alignment partially because it was so bad. here's what his post did in an expanded version: 1) contrary to what a lot of coaches teach these days about keeping the thread updated on when you're leaving, what you're doing, etc; i find that shit to rub me the wrong way and just be a pile of "notice how much extra i care everyone". maybe that's residual shit from when BH owned me by faking he was moving, but it always reads scummy to me. 2) he then says "oh i almost forgot". this implies that the thought he had while in bed on his phone was so important that he had to post from a state of inconvenience in order to notify the thread of what it was. now this is crap already cuz the game is 5 hrs old, but i will entertain it. however he then addresses nocturnemage who hasn't posted at this point with his post......something super important but directed at a person with 0 posts. 3) firstly he is giving NM a free entry into the thread, when mafia often times find entries particularly difficult and you have players like me and like palmar in the game who are quite good at spotting bad entries (if palmar is town obv). secondly instead of making a point or joke about metas like he wants to instead he is trying to defer to someone else who historically doesn't like meta reads to shit on them for him. what point does this have? what does this serve? it gains us nothing and loses us information. if you want to make jokes about meta and shit on meta then just do it instead of trying to bring someone else in. 4) then the smiley at the end just so everyone knows it was all a joke.....sight. that said disfo's enthusiasm, tone, and filter length indicates he is town. but some of his posts are turds. so he is neutral, but i know myself; certain people and the way they play the more i read of their posts the more i am gonna wanna lynch them for the way they post/talk/act/type; regardless of its bearing on their alignment. the posts were bad, they were net negative posts regardless of his alignment, and he shouldn't post like that. | ||
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On February 04 2016 18:58 Rels wrote: So does darth being a noob makes this a little less scum indicative ? I think it's more likely that scum would enter the thread, do nothing, then enters the thread again when called out than a town. I think it's more likely that noob scum would enter the thread, do nothing, then enters the thread again when called out than a noob town. keep pushing your read on him. i am particularly interested in it. | ||
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On February 04 2016 19:14 Palmar wrote: I also think my current vote is well placed and I invite more people to join the justice wagon. did you take my advice and vote on jat? | ||
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On February 04 2016 19:18 Palmar wrote: indeed also he has not said anything smart yet, which might be alignment neutral for him, but he has also not said anything he himself believes to be smart, which might be scummy. how did you read his restraint when i was poking him with a stick? indicative in any way? | ||
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On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote: ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat? nope not yet. | ||
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On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote: I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time. i am probably going to sleep in the next couple hrs and that was where i planned to place my vote. marv hasn't met his quota yet. | ||
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On February 04 2016 19:46 marvellosity wrote: no Rels Palmar: "bf is going after disfo" marv: "er, no he isn't, he's going after ritoky" wat...palmar's next post is literally: "by he i mean ritoky" | ||
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On February 04 2016 19:51 Palmar wrote: he's sort of rusty and bad by now. although confirmed town because game still going. this is somewhere between a sick burn and a truth bomb. | ||
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On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote: bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit says the guy who "gives up after 50 words" | ||
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On February 04 2016 20:05 boxerfred wrote: I mean, okay, you elaborated on your first explanation on why disformation's post was shit, okay, granted. But I can't find new information in that huge chunk. You basically repeat what you said the first time already. And I don't understand why you go at him so hard yet refrain from a scum read! You basically say "well guys, he's so bad, here is reason #1-#5, and yeah, I'm going to ignore him" - why don't you just say "well boxerfred is bad, I'm going to ignore him"? Instead you even defend your points although that doesn't make sense, since he's a - what, a town read of yours? I don't understand this. because in my heart i am an educator, i want people to get better; people won't learn to rid themselves of terrible play or bad habits unless they are informed otherwise or punished for them. | ||
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On February 04 2016 20:12 Palmar wrote: it's still a bit weird, sort of reminds me a of a guy called dropbear from way back whose mafia tell would be to write long rambling posts on multiple people where he painted everything they did as scummy if you actually think i am scum, then i might have to start spamming lynch palmar. | ||
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On February 05 2016 07:24 Damdred wrote: I have a list of 4-6 people Moosey Nm Palmar Zy Kush Onegu I probably would take palmar out for today because a few things made me go maybe palmar is town. But pretty under whelming to a point. And I understand the rest are a mix of policy, I'd rather not lynch kush today probably. If I had to lynch just one person I'd policy zyrre for faking excitement about being town and not doing anything in that time. The others can be good as town and in some cases should be given time. why 1gu? and thoughts on VA? | ||
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On February 05 2016 07:46 nooniansoong wrote: I started to want to out after I had inned. The game was gonna start in a few hours. It's not totally logical I admit. does your current play have to do with playing 2 games at once or not? | ||
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On February 05 2016 07:57 Chezinu wrote: UUMMMMMMMM UMMMMMMM UMMMMMMMMM Jeeeediiiiii... Jeeediiiiii... Jeeeeeeediiiiiiiii... This is the force speaking! come and help Chez He needs you to talk Come to Chez JeeediiiiiUUMMMMMMMM JeeediiiiiUMMMMMMM JeeediiiiiUMMMMMMMMM | ||
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maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush fuck you is: boxerfred and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM. | ||
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On February 05 2016 08:43 justanothertownie wrote: Can you explain the bolded? Seems like a very odd overreaction to me. This I agree with. This too but moreso between Rels and NM rather than VA and NM. being at the end of someone's tunnel makes reading them fairly impossible, at least for me. and can you quote or summarize some of the parts re: rels vs nm and where you see it there? | ||
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On February 05 2016 10:02 Zyrre wrote: Well, VA is talking meta. Says he wants a lazy D1 and that he discussed named VT to bait someone out. Doesnt seem scummy to me and I have no meta reads. NM is also hard to read. I dont agree with this though, about bf reads on ritoky/disinfo exchange: "My only beef with boxerfred is the last part - he's saying "lynch anyway" but the very next sentence says he's going to ignore him and trust someone else's read on him. That's a towny trait to defer to - why BF ignores it or doesn't see it right away - I'm also going to place it under the "bad" category rather than "mafia" since I would think mafia would be a bit more careful about that." I felt like ritoky was leaving it open to lynch disinfo at any opportunity, regardless of alignment as he said. Cant see why that is towny play. Not saying ritoky is scummy, after reading his later posts I actually think he is more town. Still doesnt make NM's reasoning better though. which posts? what did i do? | ||
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On February 05 2016 12:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: i lie i have liek town reads and scum reads lolol useful. as always. | ||
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On February 05 2016 12:07 darthfoley wrote: Yea i'm town reading Rels right now. I think that he has been quite pro-active, probing to make people flesh out their reads more. I was kind of annoyed with him for his pressure on me, but I think it came from town POV who was looking to pressure, what he considered, a scummy entrance. no offense but i don't really want to know your town reads. tell me who is potentially mafia and why. | ||
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while you're in a loving mood, you should state those reads you have. then maybe your love won't be unrequited. | ||
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On February 05 2016 13:53 Chezinu wrote: Chezinu is totally town guys! | ||
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On February 05 2016 14:11 Chezinu wrote: Lols I randomly copy pasted names. why this approach over just picking the other people playing? | ||
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On February 05 2016 14:42 Damdred wrote: Guys moosey dumb yelled himself town. life is easier ? | ||
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On February 05 2016 14:30 Chezinu wrote: Here is a list of answer Chezinu provided in the game: Chezinu Palmar nooniansoong Zyrre Interesting picks I must say. random picked but chezinu picked is chezinu random? is random interesting? does random have agency? are you a government agent? 9/11 was an inside job. | ||
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On February 05 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote: Surprised you and nm didn't catch it playing the game. moosey scum team is va, oneg and koshi. Ehats wrong with that team if you're talking about how he dumbtelled 3 mafia @ the end instead of 4 in a 17 person game, that's kinda meh in terms of dumb tells. | ||
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On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote: my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush fuck you is: boxerfred and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM. i literally picked my town list | ||
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On February 05 2016 14:20 ritoky wrote: moosy, if NM takes someone else, and i take disfo still. are you taking me or damdred still? | ||
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On February 06 2016 04:56 nooniansoong wrote: dunno why people compare rels to rayn. rels is way cooler and isn't as mean or annoying. how he got coached by me and 1gu and developed into who he is now is one of the great enigmas of the universe. | ||
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On February 06 2016 05:13 disformation wrote: yo, ritoky what are your thoughts on the current wagons? i am content with marvs case on palmar, and palmar's lack of thread presence + clear indication of target or person he plans to sheep is an okay reason to lynch him. noon is probably town for reasons i am not allowed to speak about yet. i am kinda considering a koshi lynch tbh, he doesn't scream town. plus he left saying he "100% disagrees with the lynch" while doing nothing koshi-like to fight it. that's super hipster of him, and town koshi burns with passion, isn't a hipster. | ||
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it's against the rules. | ||
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On February 06 2016 05:27 nooniansoong wrote: ritoky broke the rules for even bringing it up technically not, but if i had found myself subbed or modkilled at that point i would have understood erring on the side of caution. | ||
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bf is your not liking palmar lynch simply lack of pushback/people being content? or did you actually argue against the cases made? | ||
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shoot palmar. | ||
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basically you should coach newbie games if you're up for it because there's tons of benefits. | ||
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