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On February 23 2016 11:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Like I already said... I'm a bad mayor because my cell is easy. I just wanted to campaign mostly. But mayors not too important and it's not even a super big deal if mayor is scum. Ritoky's ideas are good. His cell is not easy. He makes a good mayor. lol is this kushmasta? He may not be wrong | ||
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On February 23 2016 07:42 ritoky wrote: I think group E you have to do day 3 or earlier because of Vivax. If you leave vivax in the game long enough he will tinfoil, so you want to get his cell through while he is still being Vivax and not being tinfoil vivax. What does this mean? | ||
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On February 23 2016 21:19 Vivax wrote: I'm 101 % sure bum is the mafia in my cell so if you have doubts about anything shoot. For me that's enough to have done my part. Kush is likely never mafia in this game. That's nice. | ||
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On February 23 2016 07:27 ritoky wrote: C and D 1st and 2nd, but dunno which order yet E 3rd A and B 4th and 5th, but dunno which order yet If you move E down 1 or 2 I'll vote for you. | ||
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On February 23 2016 23:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm getting tired of people calling me underwhelming. Plenty of time to be overwhelming | ||
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On February 24 2016 00:05 Damdred wrote: Why are you do concerned with going later in the game bum? Third is pretty late considering and why are you campaigning ritoky so hard without even trying to get to me? Being in the game longer gives you a bigger impact. Are you saying you'll put E later if I vote for you? | ||
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On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote: breshke scum my updated list is breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL ...and Breshke has not. He's been filtering past games(?) of his cellmates, but that will not help a ton at the start of a game unless there are some serious meta patterns. Doubtful. He hasn't remarked on anyone outside his cell and it's important that he does. We want FF and Breshke to do the same VA, and we want them all to go a bit more in depth about their lists before they leace the game. Still plenty of time. | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:43 ritoky wrote: you have any opinions of any cell other than the one currently up for vote? I'd rather see where this cell lands and what people vote for before giving my read for the second cell. | ||
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These are all his reads, and I wouldn't call them reads, more like gut feelings, because there isn't much explanation anywhere. + Show Spoiler + On February 23 2016 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote: vivax and breshke mafia On February 23 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote: you overestimate my memory, barely remember what happened in that game but dont worry ill solve the game right now SL Obi Rels breshke vivax badabing On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote: breshke scum my updated list is breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL On February 25 2016 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote: its not coincidence that all the people i have as scum are voting me, its because they are scum lol The only posts that go into further detail are something about me playing a game 8 years ago and confusing me with someone, which is far from scummy. At least he went through the effort of looking at a past game of mine. And then one more post: On February 25 2016 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote: you look worse for defending breshke and I now know 100% that breshke is scum, simple as that. Thats why you now look worse. dunno what tangent you were even going off on Which is simply him connecting Breshke and darthfoley. There is an incredibly meager line that differentiates VA and Breshke. VA is capable of giving so much more. I liked this post in a previous town game that was roughly 2-3 days after the game started. On May 08 2013 01:59 VayneAuthority wrote: Second part Analysis of Targe So, tonight the mafia killed somebody that pretty much nobody expected of being mafia which was interesting and raises some questions. Which of the 2 of Sugarfluff, targe, nobodywonder, and espi.casey is scum? which of Me, calgar, shirokami, and spicydinosaur is scum? If I had to guess this would be the distribution the mafia went with, 2 on the townie lynch and one in no man's land. Jampi suspected both Targe and Espi.casey before he died, so we have to wonder if this a red herring or are these 2 really mafia? it's hard to tell. Targe was on the Jarjar lynch since the beginning, while espi jumped to it last second. This could be Targe being a sneaky mafia and carefully leading a wrong lynch, or it simply could be a townie that got a wrong read. Probably my biggest reason for suspecting Targe right now is that I like to pinpoint a certain player in the beginning and see how they react. Much like in courts, you'll see the psychological reaction of some one that did not commit a crime and is being tried unfairly be angry/upset, while those that have committed the crime tend to be more lax and unemotional. This has served me well in previous mafia games, where mafia will tend to just kind of semi-ignore your accusations and be pretty friendly about it as Targe has been doing. Another reason I have for suspecting him is that he is very adamant throughout about jampi being town, and then jampi shows up as dead the first night....this fixation did not go unnoticed and was the reason I needed to see the night killing before posting this. For the above reasons, I will be voting either Targe or Espi.casey tonight. Something like that would make me feel better about him HINT HINT @ VA So! -If VA posts anything beyond this and Breshke does not, I'd feel better about Breshke being lynched. -If Breshke makes a pretty substantial list of reads WITH REASONS, and regardless of whether VA does or does not build on what his "gut feelings", I would look closely on their most recent posts to gauge things. I'm putting my vote on Breshke. I think Australia has had enough time to give us anything. I'll try to pick at what's been posted so far by Brush. On that note On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote: basically this is where i am at: 1) i know from recent experience with him that breshke doesn't like being mafia as much as he likes being town 2) breshke has invested less in this game than basically any game he has played in years, which may be alignment indicative 3) breshke has done nothing for me to TR him, and nothing in general 4) VA did his town meta thing 5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority thus breshke i think breshke is currently the scum Based on what I've read in recent games, I don't get what this could possibly be, unless its making lists with no reasons. I must have missed that meta-call. | ||
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There are 2 keys to B 1) He hasn't made a read outside of his cell. Not sure if anyone told him, but we are going to know his and VAs alignment after this day, so it's worth knowing their thoughts. 2) He has what I like to call the newbie button. All you have to do is hold 'shift' and then press the '/' key after every sentence. And then you can say what you want? 'Bum is scum?' looks a lot more mild then 'Bum is scum.' This is one of his better posts. On February 24 2016 08:35 Breshke wrote: Damdred are you still here? This is a lot harder than i thought it would be. Currently after my brief skims through VA and FF's filter I havn't actually found anything scummy from either of them. I think VA is the scum though purely from the fact that this looks exactly like what I remember from FF and i've only ever played with him as town iirc. His posts seem totally carefree and there is the random posts that do not relate to the game whatsoever. I will look through his recent scumgames though and see if it's any different. @VA I know this was at the start of the game but do you remember reasons for this list? Aside from him not delivering about VA's past games, and hitting the newbie button so as to avoid all confrontation, he was pretty much on the money. From his point of view, he called FF town and VA scum, and the 50/50 confirms that for him. He either got lucky or made a call he wasn't afraid of. GOOD JOB BRESHKE. On February 24 2016 09:01 Breshke wrote: mmmm it's really difficult that your scum games are 2/3 smurf games. Just from a skim of your wartrukk game it is very obvious that you played far more seriously. There was still some moments of idgaf but I can see how they made less sense. Not really sure how to explain that. Im not sure how much I can attribute this to your scum game or weather it is you trying not to out your smurf though. Would you say you were actively trying to hide your identity that game FF? I'm having trouble finding pyp even though i played in it fml Oh, he did follow up on filtering VA. And he even went through smurfs. I would never do that, that sounds like work. More question marks, and even self-deprecation. + Show Spoiler + [M][N] [W] Newbie LVIII - Disney Princess Mafia Town Vanilla Town Killed Night 2 [W] Newbie Mini Mafia LIX Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 3 [M][N] Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 [S] Student Mafia IV Town Vanilla Survived Day 6 [M][N] Metal Mini Mafia! Mafia Vanilla Killed Night 1 [M][N] New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia Mafia Roleblocker Killed Night 2 [S] Student Mafia V Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4 [M][N] Horn of Africa Mini Mafia Town Vigilante Survived Day 3 [T] Jack of All Trades Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Night 3 [N] TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy Town Vanilla Lynched Day 5 [M][N] Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 3 Town Vanilla Survived Day 3 [T] Hajime no Ippo Maifa Town Hama Dankichi Lynched Day 7 [S] Newbie Student Mafia VII Town Veteran Endgamed Day 3 [S] Newbie Student Mafia X Town Mason Killed Night 2 [M][T] Witchcraft Mini Mafia III Town Acolyte Survived Night 2 [N] Mafia in the Himalayas Town Vanilla Killed Night 2 [N] TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden Town 1-shot Jailkeeper Killed Night 5 [S] Newbie Student Mafia XIII Town Vanilla Survived Day 4 [T] The New Personality Mafia Town Raynpelikoneet Killed Night 4 [S] Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly Town Doctor Killed Night 3 [S] Newbie Student Mafia XVII: Fullmetal Edition Mafia Roleblocker Lynched Day 2 You got 20+ games under your belt son, you can't hide behind ? forever! On February 24 2016 11:57 Breshke wrote: mm you are right, especially considering he says he wasn't trying to hide his smurf I just haven't really done tone reads before. From the scum games I looked at I think that FF as scum is a bit more focused on the game. He makes far less fluff posts and when he does i feel they are still half related to the game and solving it or making excuses for himself. Like i said before it isn't like that this game he is more care free and unfocused And the last relevant post. Again on the money before the 50/50 happened. Where are you dude? This would be a bad cell to lose. By the way, here is the game I took VA's previous post from. If there are better ones to go off of, I'd be easily swayed. | ||
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On February 25 2016 15:24 ritoky wrote: busy night @ work probably little to no downtime. @bum: VA declares multiple people as town or mafia within his first 3 posts as town and gives no reasons. usually he calls people mafia if i remember right, but i would have to check. as mafia he tries to talk to people at the start of the game. i said earlier in thread though, i used this meta read in his last game (star wars) to find him as mafia early, so it is possible he adapted. Only meta I'm getting from his games is a bunch of GIFs. I'd appreciate help. | ||
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On February 25 2016 16:34 darthfoley wrote: If Breshke literally does nothing tomorrow then i'll switch votes because it's clearly a sign of someone who gave up at first glance of being accused. However, I still get a bad vibe from multiple VA posts so i'm hoping Breshke has just been busy and in his other game. Looking forward to what he has to say tomorrow Being in a 1-on-1 situation can be rough, but knowing someone is scum should be motivation enough... | ||
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On February 26 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote: its possible mafia are just sac'ing this cell since we used 50/50 on it and just having breshke say nothing so he doesnt spew any info. mafia talk about that stuff all the time. as a result i also would not give anyone too much cred on this cell as time progresses. I don't really feel a need to post beyond this. But it would be nice if you did. Can you give us a little synopsis of your reads beyond the first 2? | ||
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On February 26 2016 01:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: lol vayne don't waste your time. everyone just listens to themselves anyway. that's funny | ||
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On February 26 2016 01:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: how are you enjoying your first game back from a long hiatus? It feels goooooood | ||
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On February 26 2016 01:41 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: but who cares if a confirmed town quits? he's confirmed town. I guess he's not here to give us reads but you think FF's day 1 reads are going to be that helpful? If a confirmed town calls someone out, don't you think it's important that they respond? He got LS to react like that, I'm sure he could stoke some more fires. | ||
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On February 25 2016 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote: Doesn't bother me not to post anymore good luck bros It may have been in response to what sicklucker said, but I'm pretty sure he didn't up and leave because of that. | ||
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On February 26 2016 01:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: why is it more important that someone responds to confirmed town than to anyone else? You should hold a confirmed towns opinion with a bit of regard even if you guys don't. Notice we get to poll the obs? Do you think it's useless because it's someone else's honest opinion? | ||
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On February 26 2016 01:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: okok we disagree on the value on conf town's opinion. You think LS is scummy because his scumstrat is to be mean to people and get them to leave? In your experience this is how scum operate? It's that he meant to, it's that he doesn't seem to care that he did. He blamed it on SL and then it "wasn't his problem" | ||
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On February 26 2016 02:06 Rels wrote: This is so not alignment indicative. You trying to push that idea as scum indicative is super suspicious. How is that not alignment indicative? | ||
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On February 26 2016 02:31 Rels wrote: LS not being sorry he made ff quit does not indicate he's scum. Or town. The point I'm making is he didn't care. | ||
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On February 26 2016 03:38 Fecalfeast wrote: sup just wanna let you know... we care | ||
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On February 26 2016 04:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: What is this in reference to, exactly? I wanted to be in the last cell and mafia got scared. Otherwise, mayor race is a joke. | ||
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Pretty sure I said 5th or 4th | ||
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On February 26 2016 22:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: you shoudl probably scumread whoever is scum to mindfuck people. You're going to change your mind like usual come the third day. I remember it's happened more then once before. | ||
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Meta meta meta meta meta meta meta: 1) Meta - meta meta meta? Meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta. Meta meta; Meta 2) Meta meta - Meta meta meta meta META META META! Meta meta? META Meta meta meta. | ||
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On February 27 2016 04:45 Rels wrote: Is this your only reason to be suspicious of me ? MAYBE its the only interaction I've had with you | ||
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Rels mentioned all of this and is on the money with the breshke defense being a null-tell. I don't see him being scum. LS yelling makes him a townie is horseshit, but otherwise I don't see him being the scum in this cell. | ||
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2. You are acting like YOU making a shitty town read on VA and VA being town are mutually exclusive. News flash, scum often town read people for bad or illogical reasoning. My point was this: I think it could've been argued that VA was being more towny than Breshke via meta or something, but I strongly disagreed with your original reason to town read VA: "aggressivly posting his thoughts and scumreads." There was nothing aggressive about his play. I've seen aggressive VA town play against ME, which you can read here and there was nothing in his filter at the time that warranted being called aggressive, him posting a few names with no explanation is not aggressive. He never provided any explanation on any of the things you called "aggressive". Again, this strikes me as a potential fabricated reason to claim a TR on someone while bussing your afk scummate. The reason why I said you could be town is that I have seen multiple times where two towns have tunneled each other because they just simply interpret the same information completely differently, and draw the conclusion that the other MUST be mafia because no one would ever disagree with their godlike reads to this On February 27 2016 13:06 darthfoley wrote: How are these similar reads? Unless I misunderstood Rels and he meant aggressive = dickish/obstinate when I thought he meant aggessively scumhunting. If that's the case then I've been completely misunderstanding Rels's initial read on VA Did you misunderstand it or not? | ||
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On February 27 2016 14:21 nooniansoong wrote: Darth,in response to what you said to me in your wot, there is more to being bad mafia than not changing your meta. Bum, lol you are going ecaaxtly what I told you to do. Well if this cell is as easy as it seems, I'll accept being the one who fucked up. Not gonna get lynched though. | ||
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On February 27 2016 13:16 darthfoley wrote: I've asked multiple times if people have other questions for me but it always comes back to you're scum, defend yourself! Can you do one of those list reads? For the record, the Breshke thing was a good move, I was in the same boat. | ||
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I'm on my phone working at a fire department, and they just told me I'm working tomorrow day, so don't expect anything fancy. I guess that's been par for the course. I'd trust what the poll says too. I'm assuming they all get to discuss it, and there are some good names on that list. Pretty sure they will say Bum and kush are town with vivax as scum. | ||
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On February 28 2016 12:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Why did I vote darth? Well he working very hard to defend himself and not very hard to identify which of rels or LS were scum. Rels looked really townie. Never played with him as scum but everyone says he has a good scumgame. I probably should have paid more attention to him? LS, I was trusting rels' townread on him. I'm really hoping it was LS so I can laugh at rels for his cell losing caps lock meta read. On my to do list tomorrow: I'm going to look at vivax and bum to confirm that bum is scum. Next I'll look at the next cells and give my opinions on those bitches. And ritoky, damn it's dumb to use ask the audience on this cell. You aren't going to do shit you hypocrit | ||
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On February 28 2016 12:01 sicklucker wrote: Hum not even sure the scum was rels his reaction was good im at something like 60/40 rereading. Well ill vote my scum read from two days ago for now incase im afk again! ##vote bum Didn't you vote darth immediately last time? | ||
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On January 24 2014 11:22 bumatlarge wrote: EBWOP: Screwed up the coloring in the vote pattern list. This was from some normal game where I was a parity cop, and I had further analysis on the two individuals (our lovely host, artanis and zarepath) and they turned out to be scum. If Rels was the real scum, graphing this out would help. If LS was scum, it's not as telling, but I'm certain it's worth the effort. I can't say that I would have taken my vote off of darth, looking at the posts at crunch time, There wasn't a hell of a lot of new information, and we had just gotten off the paranoia train that VA could be scum when breshke completely stopped posting. Hindsight is 20/20, and it would really help if we knew Rels was scum or not. I'd tell you kush, but that doesn't seem fair | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 24 2014 11:20 bumatlarge wrote: I gathered up all the votes so they are easier to read. If we are going to have it influence the lynch today, then we need to set in stone exactly what happened. This is pretty raw, so I'll spoil it if you need the reference. + Show Spoiler + suki > kush (1) kush > suki (1) thrawn > kush (2) rayn > thrawn (1) Jlaw > VE (1) -rayn, rayn > Wile (1) -thrawn -suki, suki > VE (2) VE > Wile (2) -rayn rayn > bum (1) -VE, VE > bum (2) -kush, kush > balla (1) thrawn > kush (1) bum > VE (3) -Jlaw -rayn, rayn > kush (2) JLaw > balla (2) -kush Zare > VE (3) Art > rayn (1) kush > bum (2) -Jlaw, Jlaw > kush (3) Bar > zar (1) -suki, suki >zar (2) -VE, VE > balla (1) -rayn Rayn > cross (1) -rayn, rayn > zar (3) -VE, VE > bum (2) -bum -wile(?), wile > cross (2) [red]balla > cross (3) zar > bum (3) -suki, suki > bum (4) -thrawn -JLaw, JLaw > zar (3) -balla, balla > zar (4) -art, Art > zar (5) bum > zar (6) -suki, suki > zar (7) -zar, zar > cross (3) VOTE FRENZY BEGINS -rayn -art, art > kush (1) rayn > kush (2) -suki suki > bar (1) -bum, bum > kush (3) thrawn > kush (4) (at this point kush (4) has surpassed Zar in votes.) -bar -Jlaw, Jlaw > kush (5) -suki, suki > kush (6) -thrawn DOUBLE TIME -rayn, rayn > balla (1) Cross > balla (2) thrawn > balla (3) -kush, kush > balla (4) (Kush (4) vs balla (4)) -Jlaw, jlaw > balla (5) (Kush (3) vs balla (5)) -suki, suki > balla (6) bar > balla (7) JLaw: I was pushing VE, unvoted VE while I was still fighting him an voted [red]balla. Could have stayed on VE when JLaw said he thought I was town, but opted not to. Again, he had mentioned during the kush lynch that he would rather lynch balla, and did switch at a key time. Some of that a scum might do but not all of it. I think we can safely assume JLaw is not scum based on voting. Bum, Artanis, VE, Zarepath and WileSlam are the only people not voting for balla. Suki and Barristan are arguable because they came on to the vote after one surpassed the other. Kush is debatable as well, since a scum in his position has no reason not to vote his teammate when he is the alternative. Only VE and Wile did not vote in the time Zar calimed until the lynch. I don't believe Wile was present, and I do believe VE genuinely didn't have time to read the votes based on his post. I would like it if both these players gave their thoughts on the lynch. I'd encourage everyone to read the filters of the last three to make your own read on them, because I believe we should lynch one of them. There has to be at least one mafia there. I'm fairly certain I've explained my situation, but I can answer any details people want to look into. Artanis has a really bad track record with the voting. He steered the train off Zarepath and on to kush, which was quite noble, but it would be the right play if they were both mafia. He clearly did not want to lynch balla. And his vote on zarepath was weak as well. He has a bit of foresight present here, but Zarepath was at 5 here, which makes his vote a null tell. Zarepath, after managing to swing the vote away from him with his claim, did not put his vote anywhere useful. His vote on cross is similar to artanis' vote on kush, except a lot less telling. I also think it is highly likely that he is lying. A Blue VT claim is fairly safe for at least one mafia to make, especially one about to die, and mafia might have to challenge a DT later. I think the possibility of Artanis and Zarepath as the last two scum is good. But I'm the third man in that boat, so sink it anyway. and this was the game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441091-normal-mini-mafia-episode-i | ||
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On February 28 2016 14:31 sicklucker wrote: sure but I was asking why he did Using kush as a benchmark is a recipe for disaster. I'll be around for the foreseeable future if anyone has more questions. I should probably explain my reads in the meantime. I'm gonna try to sleep for a few hours if I'm lucky and wake up early. Should give this day enough time. | ||
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On February 29 2016 02:21 bumatlarge wrote: Dude, I would eat a hat if it's kush. Kush is a wreck as scum, While as town he's coherently aggressive with very simple posts but it's straight forward. Hes not exactly reliable for his spot on reads but he'll get on your ass if he thinks you're slacking. He keeps bothering me, and I thought he was pretty on point with darth. Darth was defensive N0 and every day after. Can't fault people to read that as scummy | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=kushm4sta it's like something out of my imagination. You think that's the same kush? Out of respect to vivax, I'll look hard into him, but I know he's scum so my glasses might be rose colored | ||
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On February 29 2016 05:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Bum This is kind of a waste of time but whatever lol. Day 2, Bum makes a hesitant scumread of vayne ,a hesitant townread of breshke, and votes breshke. He makes it clear that he really wants to switch to voting vayne if breshke comes back from afk. So his vote does not match his words, and the mafia motivation to save scum is clear. Vayne is scum because he hasn't posted as townie as townie as he did in 1 post from a game a long time ago, 2 days into the game: Here is his townread of breshke. Breshke is town because of 1 hard work (ok reason) 2 called vayne scum and ff town, which wasn't contradicted by the 50/50. (this reason is really bad because town could have just as easily been wrong or right after the 50/50) You were blindly following what Vivax shoved in your face about some stupid "he thought I was a different Bum". You're not going to pigeonhole me to being rightly paranoid on the first lynch of the game. And then that's it? This is your case? Stop being lazy. Why did you join this game? Give me or vivax a proper analysis kush. If you don't I swear to god I'm not playing mafia ever again. | ||
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On February 29 2016 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Asking the audience... On February 29 2016 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Asking the audience... On February 29 2016 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Asking the audience... On February 29 2016 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Asking the audience... On February 29 2016 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Asking the audience... On February 29 2016 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Asking the audience... This is bullshit I want to speak to a representative. | ||
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Blame me all you want for banking on a kush meta but... On February 23 2016 21:19 Vivax wrote: I'm 101 % sure bum is the mafia in my cell so if you have doubts about anything shoot. For me that's enough to have done my part. Kush is likely never mafia in this game. And they say he's still calling Bum scum years later. Whatever, it doesn't bother me. He had to do that. On February 25 2016 05:04 Vivax wrote: This is where im at feels wise and before reading everything into the tiniest detail. Why I end up at these conclusions is PoE for Cell B and C. Vayne not scumreading bum, and cell A is something I need to work on still. I also have to yet read any posts from Rels in detail, but I feel that LS is town, and got a townie feeling from darthfoleys most recent post. This cell is literally based off whether people are calling me scum or not. VA called him scum, and then shapelog said me asking to go last was suspicious but he didn't outright call me scum. RED OUTLINE FOR YOU. (pretty sure these two are scumbuddies.) On February 25 2016 05:22 Vivax wrote: How in the world do you expect to have any credibility whatsoever if you're the only soul in this game who apparently doesn't have a scumread on bumatlarge for reasons? I thought everyone was past that on D1 already. The only reason youd derp so hard and have such an unnatural read on ppl in my cell is cause you aren't town and don't see things the way town does (and cause you probably didn't think about the consequences of your read). READ THIS GOD DAMN POST KUSH. Vivax and I are doing the exact same thing. We both know you are town. You have that going for you. You can't assume I'm scum because you have a town meta. Vivax whole thing on VA reading me as a different scum is pretty amazing. I don't know why he thought that would work, even if Breshke had come back to salvage the lynch. Even kush pointed out how dumb it was. Still managed to focus on me for filtering VA. Ok. On day 3, Vivax did something really cool. He voted for Rels, when 6 votes were on DF. I'd say that looks pretty bold considering DF flipped town. But before that On February 27 2016 00:30 Vivax wrote: I instantly retract my LS townread On February 27 2016 01:20 Vivax wrote: He's simply saying that scum breshke wouldn't try to play the confused town I think, after saying it would be easy for him to do so. He's pretty much contradicting his two theories on his own to end up putting breshke at the bottom of null. Great, calling out LS. I think he must have been the scum now, because vivax put his vote on rels. Why didn't he put his vote on LS? Maybe he didn't want to commit, On February 27 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote: I feel super paranoid about this wagon, so you don't have to worry about me afk parking my vote on you, darth. This is fine. On February 28 2016 04:16 Vivax wrote: I can buy Rels scum alone for the fact he's handing out so many confident easy townreads, out of his cell and within his one (on LS) as well, he's basically a straight rocket which would be pretty much the ideal for mafia. Just focus on your cell, mislynch a guy, don't stir too much trouble or use too much effort in handling the other reads. I'ma vote rels for shenannies What the fuck? This lynch didn't fucking matter. Rels and darthfoley were both town. Let's call out LS and make a big stink about it and never vote, but vote rels 'fur the lulz' and it blows up. On February 28 2016 05:53 Vivax wrote: The problem is that LS could also be mafia since he doesn't really seem to care who gets lynched in my opinion, this day he has been talking about hogwash mostly, and Id feel bad for lynching Rels cause he's town but so tunneled on darth On February 28 2016 06:15 Vivax wrote: I'm back to thinking LS is mafia -.- THE FUCK? He's calling him town and he has his vote on him. On February 28 2016 06:47 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote LS 12 minutes left! On February 28 2016 06:58 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote:Rels 2 minutes left! you scummy fuck. After looking at this shit, I'm convinced LS was scum and Vivax played this incredibly safe game to look like he was doing something. There was never any danger of scum being lynched. I'm convinced, and I have a commitment to the rest of you, and I'd feel a heavy part of the blame if I get lynched. It would probably decide the game. I'll start working on the other cells for you. It's obvious I'm the one who fucked up at some point in this game. I must be rusty. | ||
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On March 01 2016 04:18 ritoky wrote: town kush: sustained engagement in the game, pushes his scum reads, always invested in the deadline, makes ambitious reads this kush: seems like he hasn't read the thread in 4 days, could give 0 shits about his vote, completely absent from last deadline, static reads Real talk, if kush is mafia, I'd be very impressed. If I were you, I'd look at vivax instead. Your time is better spent there. I honestly thought that if LS and vivax are scum that you would be scum through association with the whole Rels vote. I think that's something for SL and Kura to look into, but I'd go with Kura then SL then you. Kura did make those timestamped number analysis, which seems like a lot of work. SL posts these one liner posts, and you can only read those based on the opinion, not how he reached them. Ask him how he reaches his decisions and the should give insight on his true alignment. For the other cell, I feel like OWS is getting forced into the same position I am. Try to do an analysis of him, I don't think you'll come up with scum. No one is questioning damdred's alignment. He was good the first day then his posting kind of ends up like he feels he posted enough to prove his townieness. Has he really been involved with anything important lately? shape log is close but I think I might have a bad PoV cause he's blindly following what vivax says. None of his posts seem like his opinion. | ||
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On March 01 2016 04:22 Damdred wrote: Its a bit of POE ritoky. Vivax I don't think is ever scum in this situation, hes way to tinfoily, way to active. Kush I had a pretty big town read on then his activity dipped. And he doesn't care past his cell to some extent which kind of bugs me. Bum hasn't cared really any since the game started it felt like, it is in his favor that in my mind he went after the harder person to get lynched in vivax and i see that as suicide. But him dismissing kush for what I think is retarded reasoning and town reading him for way old meta when i bleieve he said he hated meta has me going well yeah hes probably scum. I haven't seen anything to really disuade me at this juncture. Do you? As retarded a reason as not thinking vivax is scum for whatever this tinfoil stuff is? What did he even tinfoil this game? flip flopping between LS Rels and darth? Voting me? Not voting kush? Look put kush in perspective From my view. I was here when he started. I may have missed a year, but his demeanor is exactly the same as town and completely different as scum. He's being aggressive and posting his reads but being stupid and transparent. That's how he was when he started and I wasn't a fan. But it is what it is. Think very hard. I didn't care about the first phase I'll give you that. Mayor race was a joke (no offense ritoky). But please filter me everyday after that and tell me I wasn't invested. This would really suck to go 1:2 right now. | ||
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On March 01 2016 04:39 ritoky wrote: the 1 thing about his filter that is just fucking bizarre as hell is this weird LS stuff: LS is mafia because he shits all over a confirmed town and makes him basically stop playing, which isn't the worst read i have ever heard. town should care about conf town's opinion, which i remember myself basically begging ff to give reads...at least in my head i was, and LS not caring so makes him suspect LS. i can get behind this thus far. suddenly he is wrong about LS because of capslock read.....he says it's a "moral compass thing" but really it's a bullshit excuse for the capslock read. he quotes no posts as evidence, cites nothing, just flips read. rels knows LS is town cuz he made the "emotional" or "capslock" read thus he is mafia......but you LITERALLY JUST MADE THAT READ....so when you make it i am supposed to believe it is town, but when he makes it he is mafia with extra information giving a cop-out read? darth is mafia cuz YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AND SHOULD READ WHAT I TYPE. but really this is his first mention of darth. he has called the other 2 people in this cell mafia to this point, never darth, now darth is just mafia cuz stuff. no proof for his accusations, no quote, nothing that shows he read his filter, just fluffy accusation. rels still might be mafia for making the same read bum made. if bum is mafia THAT IS WHY.....but the way the voting happened, leaves me disinclined to believe he is. I was wrong man, it is a bad read. It was sick lucker who got FF to post that he wouldn't post anymore, not LS. I took it as LS being "HAHA ONE TOWNIE OUT OF THE PICTURE" when he probably didn't even notice. I don't think FF ever commented on it, besdies saying 'im back'. I never said the capslock thing is where I got the read, that's a null-tell. I was specifically talking about making FF quitting and not caring being scummy. It's far from the same read. It just happens to stem from the same incident. And I sadly would have voted darth again. You don't lose sight of everything else and start posting blocks of text to defend yourself as town. One person was giving him a scumread and he was set in defense mode for the rest of the game. That's a pretty text-book scumtell if you think you defending yourself is helpful for the town. | ||
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On March 01 2016 04:52 Shapelog wrote: So Kush was here and left. Vivax has basically always been here. And Bum has really only been heavily here at EoD yesterday and this cycle. So I am choosing between someone not even here when his cell is up V.S. a person who showed up The only cycle I haven't actively posted in in the first. Thanks for the misinformation though! | ||
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kush - town cuz tryhard...terrible read and is wrong vivax - town cuz tryhard, slightly better than above bum - poe Why are you torturing me like this? | ||
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Obi, what does this mean? Mafia voted for who? | ||
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On March 01 2016 05:13 ritoky wrote: because from my recent experiences with vivax, he has marv syndrome when he is mafia, where he can only manage to sustain giving fucks for approximately 72 hours....plus he is only mafia if LS was mafia and not rels; do you think LS was the mafia? Almost certainly. | ||
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On March 01 2016 05:13 Damdred wrote: Bum isn't what you were saying with that kush scum game exactly what shape is saying though? Scum kush doesn't care or do much? Not sure why you are still ignoring him so hard? Scum kush does alot. He's a disaster of irrelevant thoughts and reads. I guarantee I would know if he was scum. | ||
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On March 01 2016 05:17 Vivax wrote: And today it's a lynch on bum and nobody else or you can literally all go plough yourselves for being terrible players. The guy was literally afk, boring, unonpionionated half the game and only started caring today when his ass is on the line. You lying shit. I didn't post on day one. You have no base for anything else. Now you're abusing the tiem frame. | ||
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... I give up, this guy thinks the obs QT has mafia in them. | ||
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On March 01 2016 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Everyone goes to obs when their cell is finished, yes? No, it's the observer list in the OP, they signed up for it during signups. | ||
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On February 27 2016 00:30 Vivax wrote: I instantly retract my LS townread On February 27 2016 01:00 Vivax wrote: Rels, please refrain from talking for LS. #1: No, you found it scummy that he didn't want to be last, this doesn't coincide with your current version. #2: Between your two posts he posted the grand total of one post in which he only briefly explains why he wants to go first, this one: On February 27 2016 01:13 Vivax wrote: Starting to think LS is mafia with Damdy and they founded team babbyrage to get themselves TR. On February 27 2016 02:10 Vivax wrote: Okay ill buy you and LS being town then, time to vote and mb solve the other cells already. On February 27 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote: Im still kinda feeling a scum LS here, for the following reasons: You really stuck your neck out with your bresh read. How LS changed his opinion on bresh which I mentioned earlier doesnt sit right with me. Rels doesn't even seem interested into the possibility of lynching LS as displayed during my research this day which is not ideal for scum. Aw shucks! You're telling me that didn't gain any traction? Shoot, we would have had that mafioso good lynched if we listened to you. I'm about to be lynched over this guy. | ||
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On March 01 2016 05:25 Vivax wrote: SO what we have is basically bum flailing during his last hours trying to stir paranoia and showing activity he could have shown yesterday when there was an actual hard lynch to decide on and ritoky seems to fall for it like a little girl. I was active yesterday, whenever you wanna stop blatantly lying, that would be nice. | ||
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On March 01 2016 05:32 Vivax wrote: I'm talking about EoD when you could have shown some doubt about the guy who was being mislynched. Done talking to you with this post. I'm not going to further respond to the dying cries of a mafia gorilla. And the alternative being... another townie? Fair enough. | ||
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On March 01 2016 06:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Is this townie? I think it might be but I'm not sure why. This game in a nut-shell. | ||
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On February 25 2016 23:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: brag list 2.3 changelog: that read progression from kura seems natural so he gets a townread breshke ls bum damdred sicklucker | ||
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