On April 19 2016 22:31 Rels wrote: JAS bro I have a question for you there:
On April 19 2016 18:02 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote: Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game
On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal?
None of your business.
Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ
On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.
While i am waiting,
Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc.
Idk the mechs. of FF's docs.
Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ?
because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.)
Wait... Hold on...
Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked.
Weird. You asked for info about the doc after that post:
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal?
None of your business.
You sure you didn't ask the info to check if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target ?
Ah, I am still catching up. Yes i also did in a way. That is why I asked if doc can heal the same person again. As If he couldn't heal the same person, they get a free shot Like I talked about in the last post.
Your last post explains that you asked these questions for very general reason, which is weird to me when it seems you were actually asking them for a very specific one, namely checking if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target. Talking about this post:
On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote: Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game
On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal?
None of your business.
Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ
On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.
While i am waiting,
Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc.
Idk the mechs. of FF's docs.
Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ?
because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.)
Wait... Hold on...
Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked.
It seems very overexplained, like you didn't know why you even asked these questions and created these reaons while typing this post.
I forgot about about the one post about the target when I wrote the first one, but remember about self healing idea I had.
On April 19 2016 22:31 Rels wrote: JAS bro I have a question for you there:
On April 19 2016 18:02 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote: Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game
On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote: [quote]
None of your business.
Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ
On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.
While i am waiting,
Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc.
Idk the mechs. of FF's docs.
Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ?
because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.)
Wait... Hold on...
Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked.
Weird. You asked for info about the doc after that post:
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal?
None of your business.
You sure you didn't ask the info to check if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target ?
Ah, I am still catching up. Yes i also did in a way. That is why I asked if doc can heal the same person again. As If he couldn't heal the same person, they get a free shot Like I talked about in the last post.
Your last post explains that you asked these questions for very general reason, which is weird to me when it seems you were actually asking them for a very specific one, namely checking if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target. Talking about this post:
On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote: Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game
On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal?
None of your business.
Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ
On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.
While i am waiting,
Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc.
Idk the mechs. of FF's docs.
Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ?
because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.)
Wait... Hold on...
Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked.
It seems very overexplained, like you didn't know why you even asked these questions and created these reaons while typing this post.
I forgot about about the one post about the target when I wrote the first one, but remember about self healing idea I had.
That is pretty much it.
So you really "didn't know why you even asked these questions and created these reaons while typing this post". Well, I'll have to change "know" by "remember" if you're town.
I remembered it had something to do with seeing about super, and seeing our ability for a safe CC (remember i forgot about piskys RB's, and gambling that Super flips RB in the case of a CC is risky) And when i responded to you for the first time, i rememberd about the safe CC idea.
On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor. This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?
Quite Whineing about it, if you are not going to actually back it up by unvoting.
This is like your 3rd time doing this, yet you never have move your vote.
On April 17 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote: jat is a tw approved townie rels, jas, and gumshoe are not but are not scumreads either
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
???
nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place
i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?
because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything
okay so let's play a game here
you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well
give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them
jat is town jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one) palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub
tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now
If I wasn't your townread yesterday then nobody was. You are just pulling shit out of your ass
nobody was though no one has actually confirmed themselves as highly likely town in my mind
What's your current reads tumble? Since you got good?
I'll start with you because you asked
Jashape: I wouldn't rule him out but no reason to think he's scum yet. Really hasn't done very much to give me an opinion on him.
JAT: Scum because he's so focused on the two people that he's invariably going to lynch anyway.
SL: He's cocky in the right way, and his curiosity about the vig seems genuine.
Onegu: Since I can't content read someone with so little content, spidey senses say town.
Gumshoe: If he were evaluating how his posts looked about half of what he has would never see the light of day. Since he's not, town.
Superbia: scum
Rsoul: scum
OWS: Town unless I'm being pocketed hard. Would like him to explain why he thinks I'm town.
Rels: His D1 was about how mine would have gone if I were in his situation (and town). You think someone really messed up and is clear scum, you make sure they die no matter what. Inactivity concerns me a little but I'll give him time. Slight townread.
Can you go into more depth about: Rsoul (just a sentence why you think you find her as scum) OWS (Same, but why you find him as town) Anyone else that has changed for you.
Rsoul scumread is fading but still present; I know this because all I can say now is "read pages 1-3 of my filter" because there's no fresh material and I don't remember the old stuff. OWS town for not jumping on me ever. This will fade, though, unless he says why he's townreading me. Also feeling better about Rels.
Ok, For me shes a weak town read (haven't read filter yet lol) + Gambler luck (Kush taught me this. Actaully thought you would role blue, do to never being blue in storm, yet I don't think I brought it up lol) My prob with OWS (again, haven't read filter) has been he is against this lynch, yet has not voted or done anything to contest it. Feels like he is testing the water.
On April 19 2016 23:28 gumshoe wrote: I'd like to apologize for the excitement over the timing thing, it is a bit loose on its own XD I originally came to the conclusion that obi and sick are scum together due to how super was avoiding saying anything about them (even though they stayed on him after his claimed and if they are town they are perfect targets) and likewise they were avoiding saying anything about each other. And also how they basically had identical scum reads (jas and tumble to a lesser degree)
I asked sick about obi because between them obi was the end game bet(sick dies a lot)so I figured sick would make no real points about obi.
27 minutes or so later the both respond simultaneously after being gone from thread for a while. And sick gave me the exactl the answer that I expected / : "impossible"
It was really just gravy. The meat of my read is what prompted me to ask the case in the first place ( last wall of text has most of that )
I also had some other guiding evidence ,the plan that scum made around the Palmer shot and how it collapsed, the argument that tumble must be town if super is not rb and of course the likelihood that given supers play and schedule that he was likely fine with bieng bussed day 1.
These points clear more players than you would at first think / :
None of this is relevant of course until we confirm that super isn't actually just an awful dock, but can't blame a fellow for getting excited XD
Yeah, the point about them making posts at the seem time made no sense to me.
It is strange how much of their thought process aligns though. however, like you said, super needs to flip for us to know this.
On April 19 2016 23:28 gumshoe wrote: I'd like to apologize for the excitement over the timing thing, it is a bit loose on its own XD I originally came to the conclusion that obi and sick are scum together due to how super was avoiding saying anything about them (even though they stayed on him after his claimed and if they are town they are perfect targets) and likewise they were avoiding saying anything about each other. And also how they basically had identical scum reads (jas and tumble to a lesser degree)
I asked sick about obi because between them obi was the end game bet(sick dies a lot)so I figured sick would make no real points about obi.
27 minutes or so later the both respond simultaneously after being gone from thread for a while. And sick gave me the exactl the answer that I expected / : "impossible"
It was really just gravy. The meat of my read is what prompted me to ask the case in the first place ( last wall of text has most of that )
I also had some other guiding evidence ,the plan that scum made around the Palmer shot and how it collapsed, the argument that tumble must be town if super is not rb and of course the likelihood that given supers play and schedule that he was likely fine with bieng bussed day 1.
These points clear more players than you would at first think / :
None of this is relevant of course until we confirm that super isn't actually just an awful dock, but can't blame a fellow for getting excited XD
Yeah, the point about them making posts at the seem time made no sense to me.
It is strange how much of their thought process aligns though. however, like you said, super needs to flip for us to know this.
ALRIGHT SOMEONE SEES IT FINALLY I can shut up now XD see you all at the flip
On April 20 2016 04:51 gumshoe wrote: So my argument kinda has two halves.
1: if super is town, the night kill is really wierd and seems to simultaneusly bother and not bother with his claim
The logic of "hey, super might shoot his number 1 scum read, lets shoot him too and rb super just in case" seems kinda odd as opposed to "hey, super may very well shoot palmer, lets rb and kill someone else, while potentially getting him to do our work for us, could be worth the risk"
2: if super is scum, the nk makes sense (allows him to contest vig) but is still derpy as it does not consider several key factors (like what the actual vig shot would be)
one makes little to no sense, the other makes sense if scum are derps. Therefore scum derped / :
Let's just agree to disagree here. At the very least until super flips.
The thing you should take away from our discussion is that both me and Rels disagree with you. So you probably shouldn't townread us just because Palmar died.
opposite : P people disagreeing with me is what town do. Scum are the ones who encourage my madness XD(the lack of encouragement is actually rather encouraging)
also if ether of you are scum, why are you fighting so hard to be town read 0_0
I've done that. I also stop everyone in a OMGUS game from TR me as town because i was being useful. Lol I actually remember my first tinfoil was with Rik/Kush/??? and it was that Rik was scum trying to buddy me early on. Kush and ??? both helpped them and they were master team scum. That game sparked a paranoid shapelog, who scumread almost everyone who called him town D1 . Gotten over it though.
On April 20 2016 06:16 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Since you are here super, can you like spitball ideas about the game? Just like things that you think off the top of your head etc.
You're in my PoE scum list. Together with TW and SL. Maybe RSO scum. Maybe Obi bc TMI.
On April 20 2016 06:16 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Since you are here super, can you like spitball ideas about the game? Just like things that you think off the top of your head etc.
You're in my PoE scum list. Together with TW and SL. Maybe RSO scum. Maybe Obi bc TMI.
lol assuming you're even still here, what changed between not playing and townreading me and then not playing and scumreading me? xP epiphany? did your cornflakes say it?
No, the cornflakes tell me not to have sex. Duh.
I never TR you....lol. At least I don't think I have.
On April 20 2016 06:16 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Since you are here super, can you like spitball ideas about the game? Just like things that you think off the top of your head etc.
You're in my PoE scum list. Together with TW and SL. Maybe RSO scum. Maybe Obi bc TMI.
lol assuming you're even still here, what changed between not playing and townreading me and then not playing and scumreading me? xP epiphany? did your cornflakes say it?
No, the cornflakes tell me not to have sex. Duh.
I never TR you....lol. At least I don't think I have.
o.0 um
hi shape. how are you? did you want to talk about something? lol...weren't you the gambler's luck or whatever dude? not that it matters, but that post wasn't to you goober ^^
Well I thought you were talking to me, as I just asked a question, and you go "if you are still here" lol.
I am doing great! I ate a banana, took my meds, and are trying to up my levels of content! yes! I was the guy talking about Gambler's luck.
On April 20 2016 00:44 gumshoe wrote: The nice thing about nailing scum is even if town doesn't take you seriously, they do XD
Heres one of points that super responded to.
like how super has said jack all about how you too stayed on him after he claimed
this is his answer
well I was just scum with him and super knows I would sniff him out. Hes playing the same style as then. We already lost im going to post the minimum and just make last minute attempts to get lynches off me. Hell it worked that game tbh lets not do that here
he asserts that super is not coming after them because "sl would sniff him out" but if sl is town hes already sniffed his fill and super would know that XD so why is super not saying shit about two players who stayed on him even after his claim?
dude even called obi scum early
Also because GB and Obi are in your scum listy and I'm leaning the same way.
so whats with this days long gap of not even acknowledging they're existence?
Sl's reasoning is bullshit XD because there is no good reason for super not to be pushing obi and sl right now if they're opposite alignment
instead his current scum read is jas XD same as the people permavoting him that he cant seem to tell exist.
so thats just a flat out contradiction (love those)
overall we have the following links- obi and sl both stayed on super after his claim, they both got on him early, they both dont read each other (even though obi has no excuse) and they both seem to get carte blanch from super.
and of course, they have a habit of posting at the same time using the same arguments
obi after a 17 min gap in the questioning
I take it you don't get the "I'm an unreadable myth" thing that's going around, do you?
sick 1 min after
because I cant read obi. If i was vig I would have shot him
They just seem really coordinated while not acknowledging one another / : (they bring up this read wall thing at the same time even though it hasnt been really mentioned once this game, their just so in synch its amazing XD)
oh and also they are both blue hunting
obi
But he's the uncc'd doctor.
Like, do we even have any idea who else to lynch outside of the Doctor claim?
sl
(also though this is one kinda trolly XD)
but who is the doctor?
which lines up perfectly with supers current scum agenda, which is to trade himself for doc.
also sl scum slipped a smidge
like your just going to have to trust me. hes not the doctor
in general sl has been uncannily right all game
he supposdly knew fazzers was town
it was a terrible vig shot fazzers was my top town. new players are so easy to read sign...
but if he was reading the thread at all, he should have known fazzers was a vig target yet he did nothing to deter the shot on him.
Fazers - Future mvp of tl mafia calling it now
(troll comment)
and then come night
lol 3 towns voted super nevermind...
doesnt even mention fazzer's name...
I think it's safe to assume that sl knew he was town (as he claims) but did not care about him getting shot because hes scum / :
oh my god, you guys wont appreciate this, but I found the smoking gun.
whoever vigged palmar/faz who was on the super wagon needs to check their head
Aside from the fact that sl is basically the only time someone has ever considered the vig shot to have been on palmar(which would line up with the whole scum shot to back super play) the point here is, he suddenly thinks the 'vig' shot on plamar was terrible????? even though he was pushing palmar earlier?
no its not palmar was literally reading rstoulin off of nothing. He formed his read before any data really came in. Then he may have formulated a read to suit his needs. Its far more likely that the random person he pushed early and voted is acualy his top scum read.
(huh, he was pushing palmar and super at the same time, how does that work)
Theres just so much to poke at in sls filter I'm shocked more people arent scum reading him atm / :
If i was with super I wouldnt let him do what hes doing. In are last scum game super was basicly trying to get himself lynched and I killed rstoulin so he would not get lynched. Like thats probably whats happening this game and thats why im afk lynching him. He didnt want to play scum
That's a lie. I wanted to get lynched before you so my flip would save you. You were being read 3rd p and me flipping 3rd p would take pressure of you.
yes that was the excuse. this game its probably to find the doctor which is why I shut that down
It is the oldest question since the beginning of time. Doctor who? + Show Spoiler +