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On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote: OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.
If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.
For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads. "if he's being honest he's town, if he's being dishonest he's scum" no shit what is your actual opinion on jealous
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On June 05 2016 10:12 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote: Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says. BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me. Show me proof of this. The real question here is how do you know? I can't prove it unless I'm you but that's just the feeling I get. Players do it all the time to get others off their backs.
On June 05 2016 10:16 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote: Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says. BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me. you have to ask yourself if that is all I've done. Do you think I explained myself well enough with me debate with Jealous? Maybe I'm just not coming up with the way you would answer and that is scummy to you? As I said in my post, I understand why you would do something like that so that should say to you I've answered like that before. As for whether it's scummy or not, I did say it could be town struggling or scum so that's answered too.
On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote: OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.
If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.
For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads.
On June 05 2016 09:36 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote:On June 05 2016 06:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too. Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you? Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway. So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me. I see. Too bad you've shown your hand to all the newcomers as well ^^ Stay safe! What does tunneled mean btw? Yeah, there's no point in hiding my meta right now. It's my gimmick against vets but doesn't work against new players. It just distracts them which is a detriment especially with town players like beentheredonethat.
tunneled means focusing on one person so much you can't see anything else and basically convince yourself that you're right.
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On June 05 2016 12:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 10:12 QuickTwist wrote:On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote: Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says. BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me. Show me proof of this. The real question here is how do you know? I can't prove it unless I'm you but that's just the feeling I get. Players do it all the time to get others off their backs. Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 10:16 QuickTwist wrote:On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote: Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says. BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me. you have to ask yourself if that is all I've done. Do you think I explained myself well enough with me debate with Jealous? Maybe I'm just not coming up with the way you would answer and that is scummy to you? As I said in my post, I understand why you would do something like that so that should say to you I've answered like that before. As for whether it's scummy or not, I did say it could be town struggling or scum so that's answered too. Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote: OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.
If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.
For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads. Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 09:36 Jealous wrote:On June 05 2016 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote:On June 05 2016 06:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too. Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you? Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway. So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me. I see. Too bad you've shown your hand to all the newcomers as well ^^ Stay safe! What does tunneled mean btw? Yeah, there's no point in hiding my meta right now. It's my gimmick against vets but doesn't work against new players. It just distracts them which is a detriment especially with town players like beentheredonethat. tunneled means focusing on one person so much you can't see anything else and basically convince yourself that you're right. I see, thanks for the response. Seems like a pretty easy pit to fall into, haha.
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On June 05 2016 12:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 12:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 10:12 QuickTwist wrote:On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote: Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says. BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me. Show me proof of this. The real question here is how do you know? I can't prove it unless I'm you but that's just the feeling I get. Players do it all the time to get others off their backs. On June 05 2016 10:16 QuickTwist wrote:On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote: Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says. BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me. you have to ask yourself if that is all I've done. Do you think I explained myself well enough with me debate with Jealous? Maybe I'm just not coming up with the way you would answer and that is scummy to you? As I said in my post, I understand why you would do something like that so that should say to you I've answered like that before. As for whether it's scummy or not, I did say it could be town struggling or scum so that's answered too. On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote: OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.
If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.
For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads. On June 05 2016 09:36 Jealous wrote:On June 05 2016 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 05 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote:On June 05 2016 06:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too. Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you? Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway. So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me. I see. Too bad you've shown your hand to all the newcomers as well ^^ Stay safe! What does tunneled mean btw? Yeah, there's no point in hiding my meta right now. It's my gimmick against vets but doesn't work against new players. It just distracts them which is a detriment especially with town players like beentheredonethat. tunneled means focusing on one person so much you can't see anything else and basically convince yourself that you're right. I see, thanks for the response. Seems like a pretty easy pit to fall into, haha. Why the hell is new York so big.
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On June 05 2016 11:50 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote: OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.
If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.
For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads. "if he's being honest he's town, if he's being dishonest he's scum" no shit what is your actual opinion on jealous
That is my actual opinion on Jealous.
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ah what... sqrt has been replaced hmm. that alone points scummy because it indicates he doesn't want to f over his scumteam.
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On June 05 2016 08:23 scott31337 wrote: I read QuickTwist's filter since he's the one I'm tied in votes for, and it's 6 pages of one-liners and a couple of magic early townreads and a "Maybe scum" on Tictock. It's pretty bad - wouldn't mind voting for him
weird because i get the opposite impression. Paragraph after paragraph of text coming from mostly QT and Jealous about some argument they are having.
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On June 05 2016 03:01 beentheredonethat wrote: EBWOP: Is MoosyDoosy able to emulate his town style as scum? thekushmountains, can you answer this? yes I think he can. I'm just saying that the things you pointed out are null for him.
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On June 05 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote: @tumble what makes you wanna plynch sqrt instead of fecalfeast who is yet to post a word since daypost.
On June 05 2016 04:28 Fecalfeast wrote: Got drunk and forgot. Give me a bit i have 390 posts to read
Just taking note of who summoned FF to the game.
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Nope, I'm actually not here for awhile.
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Vote Count: Day 1
QuickTwist (3): MoosyDoosy, Jealous, Skynx, Tictock scott31337 (3): nnn_thekushmountains, QuickTwist, Tumblewood MoosyDoosy (2): Superbia, beentheredonethat Superbia (0): QuickTwist
Not Voting (5): emperorchampion, scott31337, blkcoffee, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast
Currently QuickTwist will be executed. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted.
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Reminder to everyone: voting is mandatory.
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On June 05 2016 13:33 NocturneMage wrote:Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (3): MoosyDoosy, Jealous, Skynx, Tictock scott31337 (3): nnn_thekushmountains, QuickTwist, Tumblewood MoosyDoosy (2): Superbia, beentheredonethat Superbia (0): QuickTwistNot Voting (5): emperorchampion, scott31337, blkcoffee, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast Currently QuickTwist will be executed. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted.
Good, glad I got in early, this will give me Gosu Townie points when they flip mafia.
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What happens if someone doesn't vote once?
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This thread is completely dead.
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On June 05 2016 14:12 QuickTwist wrote: This thread is completely dead. I'm curious about that too. I'd expect veteran players to be more active than this and applying at least a little pressure. However, I guess that without any flips or role results, there isn't much to work off of.
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On June 05 2016 14:27 Jealous wrote:I'm curious about that too. I'd expect veteran players to be more active than this and applying at least a little pressure. However, I guess that without any flips or role results, there isn't much to work off of.
Maybe maybe not, but that's no excuse not to post.
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On June 05 2016 15:00 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 14:27 Jealous wrote:On June 05 2016 14:12 QuickTwist wrote: This thread is completely dead. I'm curious about that too. I'd expect veteran players to be more active than this and applying at least a little pressure. However, I guess that without any flips or role results, there isn't much to work off of. Maybe maybe not, but that's no excuse not to post. Also, it's around midnight-2 am in America, which is where most of the posters on this forum are from I'm guessing.
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On June 05 2016 15:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 15:00 QuickTwist wrote:On June 05 2016 14:27 Jealous wrote:On June 05 2016 14:12 QuickTwist wrote: This thread is completely dead. I'm curious about that too. I'd expect veteran players to be more active than this and applying at least a little pressure. However, I guess that without any flips or role results, there isn't much to work off of. Maybe maybe not, but that's no excuse not to post. Also, it's around midnight-2 am in America, which is where most of the posters on this forum are from I'm guessing.
There really hasn't been much since last I was on. I think I went to bed pretty late and didn't totally get up until 7 PM so there should really be a lot more to go through.
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I'm going to reread. I have 3 games going and all of them are dead AF.
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