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On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read.
What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous.
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On June 04 2016 08:59 Superbia wrote:This game is actually going decently well. I'll lurk for a bit since dnd is starting soon. Kindly carry on. Shade is cast in your direction and you exeunt stage left. Interesting.
On the one hand, it might be a better strategy than vehemently arguing your innocence. On the other hand, that might be exactly why you did it even if you are not innocent.
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On June 04 2016 09:01 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:00 Tumblewood wrote:On June 04 2016 08:50 Superbia wrote:On June 04 2016 08:49 Tumblewood wrote:On June 04 2016 08:48 Superbia wrote:On June 04 2016 08:47 Skynx wrote:On June 04 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote: So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts. Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean. Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses. Super is most scummy so far. Do you think quicky (QT) is town? He doesn't sound scummy (yet) What do you think of the fact that he has given like 4 people a townread? why would giving lots of people townreads make someone scummy? I'd expect that the question would be more "giving 4 reads in the first hour" I don't see a good reason for pretty much all of them. Jealous could be an exception but it was still way too early to conclude anything. have you ever seen the mafiauniverse (that's the website hosting the mafia championship) turbo games? the games have 18 minute day phases and 6 minute night phases and everyone who makes reads makes them off of ten posts or less for the first couple of days and have a mostly guesswork basis. perhaps he comes from a site where reads are made similarly? Tumble you're not playing your town meta. You might want to change that before anyone else notices. No editing posts, as I have learned to my detriment.
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On June 04 2016 09:06 QuickTwist wrote: I think Jealous is town >.< I will confirm that I am town (again) but I don't see why you need to keep stating this.
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On June 04 2016 09:10 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:08 Superbia wrote: Perhaps. What about your other town reads? I thought you were going to go play D&D. What happened to that? Did you get high or something? Well, that went 0-100 pretty quickly and for no reason as far as I can tell. Dodgy answer, trying to cast shade on another...
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On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read. What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous. This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up. I agree that I may be making mountains out of molehills, and you are also right in saying that we need to know why the molehill was constructed in the first place. However, with no pertinent explanation available, it is my inclination to lean scum on QuickTwist.
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On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job.
As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected.
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On June 04 2016 09:25 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:24 Tictock wrote:On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: PREGAME READS
7)Ticktock - not sure what the difference between this guy and tumblewood is. both names start with t and both play low to moderate activity.
Wow, doesn't even have a real pre-game read on me... Has to reference Tumble just to have some content. Clearly mafia. ##Vote nnn_shwagmountains You're Joking. You have to be. Or seeding disinformation and confusion.
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On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read. What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous. This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up. Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies.
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On June 04 2016 09:29 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. +1 Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure??
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On June 04 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. I don't want to get into an irrelevant argument like this during the game but don't worry I'll surely have enough pent-up irritation to blast you about it post-game
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On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read. What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous. This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up. Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies. you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes". Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection.
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On June 04 2016 09:33 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. +1 Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure?? +1 means "I second this" in Internet-land I also would not say that QT not directly answering your pressure indicates that he is scum. Yes, I am curious as to what he is seconding, because there are two focal points in my post and one of them is oddly specific and relatively irrelevant to the game whereas the other is highly relevant and damning.
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On June 04 2016 09:35 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read. What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous. This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up. Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies. you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes". Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection. yeah, and really really super obvious as well. Knowing nothing about you or your play style and only judging from the content that you present, it's logical to use Ockham's razor and go with the most obvious explanation. You continue to dodge post after post, question after question, and only cast doubt upon the analysis of others by trying to debase them without any substance whatsoever.
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On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read. What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous. This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up. Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies. you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes". Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection. the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Jumping to the defense? I'm just pressuring him to answer questions that others have asked him, to which he has given no real response. Is Mafia the type of game where someone can get away with jumping into it gung-ho, pointing fingers and making calls, and have no response to any questioning as to why those claims were made? That seems to me the antithesis of this game.
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On June 04 2016 09:37 NocturneMage wrote:Vote Count: Day 1 MoosyDoosy (1): Superbia Superbia (1): QuickTwist sqrtofneg1 (1): nnn_thekushmountains QuickTwist (0): MoosyDoosyNot Voting (10): emperorchampion, Skynx, sqrtofneg1, blkcoffee, Jealous, beentheredonethat, Tumblewood, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Tictock Currently MoosyDoosy will be executed. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. So far the most interesting vote is kushmountains', in my opinion. He is aiming at inactives less than 2 hours into a game.
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On June 04 2016 09:43 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:39 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:35 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote: [quote]
If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.
I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.
For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?
That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read. What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous. This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up. Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies. you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes". Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection. yeah, and really really super obvious as well. Knowing nothing about you or your play style and only judging from the content that you present, it's logical to use Ockham's razor and go with the most obvious explanation. You continue to dodge post after post, question after question, and only cast doubt upon the analysis of others by trying to debase them without any substance whatsoever. You know what I think? I think you should hold off your judgement until you DO know my playstyle. Or maybe you can answer some questions and show your play style through analysis and not through mindless macros and unsubstantiated claims.
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On June 04 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. +1 Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure?? May I ask for a textual response to this or am I just begging for another meme?
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On June 04 2016 10:05 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 09:54 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:29 QuickTwist wrote:On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2016 09:17 Tumblewood wrote:mmmph jealous I read your filters from the other two games you've played. + Show Spoiler [please see diagram] +the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. +1 Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure?? May I ask for a textual response to this or am I just begging for another meme? Sure. I'll explain it cuz you lack subtlety. The guy in question is complete Null right now and its not a good look for you to be acting like you have a scum read on him already. He has done nothing alignment indicative and as such is the type of player who is going to be caught trying to defend his scummates or will crumble because his team is in a bad way if he is scum. That's why your pressure on him right now doesn't mean shit. I fail to see the connection between your reasoning and the question; what did you +1 on?
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On June 04 2016 10:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: guys, sqrtneg1 he was here and active when it was just "hello wassup" but when people started talking actual content, he disappeared. Whereas you contributed what exactly?
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