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There are NO scum on lunaticman at the end-of-day no lynch. (unless Koshi) Yet on the day lunaticman dies Exo is on there, and Koshi was saying he needs to get more people on there to make sure he dies.
Hmm.
I don't think that on its own really says anything though.
Ugh.
I feel like something is on the tip of my tongue regarding Koshi but I dunno what.
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On November 04 2016 13:16 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 13:14 WaveofShadow wrote: There are NO scum on lunaticman at the end-of-day no lynch. (unless Koshi) Yet on the day lunaticman dies Exo is on there, and Koshi was saying he needs to get more people on there to make sure he dies.
Hmm.
I don't think that on its own really says anything though.
Ugh.
I feel like something is on the tip of my tongue regarding Koshi but I dunno what. if you look at vivax's interactions regarding koshi you'll see why i suspect him he did the JEEP tell cast FoS on him at first then later he put him into his scum pool and explained why hes sooo town BUT he did that with kurumi too so IDK (why i was testing my theory on kurumi) yet kurumi didnt have the tell vivax did. vivax definitely had a JEEP tell with koshi but is that worth more than koshi helping us kill exo? didnt he help us with that? idfk just read into vivax for me Can you explain this exactly in one post?
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There's some stuff in Koshi's filter that I don't like.
Hell there's a LOT of stuff I don't like.
You guys who have played with him as scum lately. Is he capable of a monster filter as scum? I'm too lazy to look.
Much of the game is him whining bitching/not actually attempting to solve the game.
There are also some bad looking specifics.
I might just be convincing myself here but I dunno if that's a good thing or not.
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On October 25 2016 17:59 Koshi wrote: I am going to die tonight. It is pretty sure. Heals come after kp so I am pretty fucked. My ulti is also pretty good and I still have it so yeah...
I would ask sicklucker to check my hp but he is mafia. Pretty good spell for mafia btw.
My 5 names still stand. People like hamamura, GB and TL could be mafia but who cares. Maybe acrofoles as well. Maybe ritoky not and he just decided to be a shitter.
Problem is people with low hp (Koshi, GB) are going to be town and getting killed off by mafia because mafia can do it. And then others like hama, ritoky, acrofoles, TL are just running around (almost) full hp because mafia is healing them and protecting them etc etc etc.
Balancing this game is hard but you can't expect town to play together. While mafia just plays together. There are still 22 players in the game and maybe powerful spells unlock or get upgraded so who knows. But my hopes are low. Time to claim it to some degree. This is endgame.
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Almost his entire filter is roel bullshit.
ARGH THIS IS DIFFICULT
I think it's Koshi. Also when widely regarded as town he disappears...
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I actually think Skynx's filter might implicate Koshi.
His entire filter reeks of a scum playing with TMI.
Calls all strong townies top town in list post Berates everyone for Tubesock lynch being obviously bad Tries to protect Vivax by calling him scum yet telling us to shoot him rather than lynch him. Calls Koshi and Vivax strongest scumreads and fake rages till the end of time
Just SO rabid about the Vivax lynch and literally had no hand in lynching him
Someone help me not be confirmation biased here
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On October 29 2016 07:10 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Koshi could in theory still be scum if the team decided for skynx to use his power to try and 'future-confirm' koshi in the long run but goddamn that sounds so stupid as I type it out I refuse to believe koshi is scum.
It's not that stupid. While all that doesn't make Koshi mafia, it definitely make him town. What else has he done? Without this lynch nonsense, he'd have to put in a ton of effort which this koshi is not willing to do whatever alignment he is. So if he is mafia then this is a great play to have his team no lynch and then "save" town later with the double. Is it unbalanced if mafia elects to force the no lynch that they are later forced to double lynch? Straight no lynching is kinda mean. ##Vote: skynx I don't mind SL's POE list. Trade out Dandel Ion and me for Bill Murray and Koshi and it's solid. I attacked Koshi and was healed by 4. I think this post makes Tubesock not scum mabes
I refer back to Tubesock's earlier game where he looked pretty good, and I think he looked pretty good all game really. It's just recent PoE that made me want to lynch him
Fuck why am I the least suspicious person all game. Way easier to just deflect lynches than lead them
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On November 04 2016 13:44 ritoky wrote: can i just say my 1 paranoid theory. my "vivax in endgame" if you will. not that it is the leading thought in my head, but hey...we all have our paranoias.
my 1 paranoid theory is that WoS is the mafia. the primary reason being that he hasn't died and that BM has claimed his shield on WoS was a 20 damage shield not a medic save. from what it seems, mafia kp has been pretty much guaranteed or so high that it full to zero's people. with no one dying outside of artanis last night and no one claiming huge damage received or any ability that stopped kp/blocked an action....it likely means mafia forewent kp for something else or put its kp on artanis....which would mean WoS who claimed a role cop and lynched mafia and may have assisted me in killing another was not targeted again for like the 3rd or 4th night in a row. which gives me the sketches somewhere in the back of my brain.
but i save that delusion for if me and WoS both somehow live to f3. I mean my scumgame is good but not THAT good :D
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Alright I'm going for the yoloplayz boys Best case scenario: we win Worst case scenario: we piss Koshi off (and likely the rest of town screaming at me from obs)
Seems like a win win to me :D
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On November 04 2016 13:48 ritoky wrote: if tubesock is mafia then he pretty much bussed hardcore for the first 2 or so days. he was pretty adamant about vivax and skynx. Ok gotta read. If tubesock's TMI factor comes up as strong as Skynx's then maybe there's a problem with my thoughts.
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On November 04 2016 13:50 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 13:43 WaveofShadow wrote: I actually think Skynx's filter might implicate Koshi.
His entire filter reeks of a scum playing with TMI.
Calls all strong townies top town in list post Berates everyone for Tubesock lynch being obviously bad Tries to protect Vivax by calling him scum yet telling us to shoot him rather than lynch him. Calls Koshi and Vivax strongest scumreads and fake rages till the end of time
Just SO rabid about the Vivax lynch and literally had no hand in lynching him
Someone help me not be confirmation biased here For me it was him going after Exo_. I didn't think it was necessary for mafia. He voted him and later helped kill him when he had better or easier explained targets to go after if he was mafia. He was early on Vivax, Skynx and ExO. But I still stand by my other stuff I said, "double lynch" is a good mafia play. And he's really just played till he could become confirmed. But bussing pretty much your entire team seems like poor play. It's newbie-r scumplay to do so. The mentality is 'well I look super good for lynching scum and not lynching town so they'll never lynch me!'
AS for Koshi....bleh I dunno. I still kinda like the lynch more than lynching you
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On November 04 2016 13:50 ritoky wrote: yeah plus effectively red checking and lynching a partner right after lynching one seems like a "well time to bus and pray i win f3" play, which i don't really feel like mafia was in a weak enough position at that point in the game where you go for desperate measures like that? What are you referring to?
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Man Tubesock engages so well in conversation, gives out reads super freely
How the fuck can he be scum
srsly
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On October 22 2016 05:13 Tubesock wrote: I'm moving to Koshi. Viv, LT and Ritoky on TT makes me a little quesy. Ok look at this reasoning and compare it to Skynx just screaming about Vivax being scum and how people are bad and stuff
This doesn't scream TMI in hindsight like Skynx's does, but again, hindsight
DOES Tubesock's attention to Vivax/Koshi feel like a bus? No imo
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On November 04 2016 13:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 13:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 04 2016 13:50 ritoky wrote: yeah plus effectively red checking and lynching a partner right after lynching one seems like a "well time to bus and pray i win f3" play, which i don't really feel like mafia was in a weak enough position at that point in the game where you go for desperate measures like that? What are you referring to? if you were mafia, how the mafia was in a fairly strong position from my perception when you red checked skynx; so it was probably a -EV play that is only made in a place of weakness or desperation which i don't feel like the mafia should have been at that point.... Yes my point exactly. I'm not the kind of person to make stupid ballsy plays like that as scum. I rely on my own skills to win, but that's just me bragging really
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Hmm. So one problem.
Tubesock basically picked out VIvax/Koshi AND Skynx decently early it seems.
Is tubesock a good enough player to do this, is it a fluke, or TMI now?
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Ughhhh massive townread post on Lunatic.
Tubesock just got worse on the TMI front
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On October 29 2016 05:31 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 06:37 Tubesock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +My scum list is scummiest to least:
Vivax, Skynx, Koshi Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien Ritoky, GlowingBear Sicklucker
My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers. I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him. NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo. The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB. + Show Spoiler +So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time) Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 20:13 beentheredonethat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Also, we should pile up votes on ritoky asap. He has six pages of filter where he's not pushing anyone. Bragging about "I have lots of townreads but no scumreads" which kind of is a safe way to lurk around. Also talking about his brother's marriage, a Seahawks game, asking questions to GB but then not following up, instead bragging about "I dived BM's filter it's shit but he's town".
This guy comes on my scum pile. Also, Skynx, as he dropped again under the radar and I cannot tell if he actually did something this game or not. He's absolutely unmemorable and I don't think that this is good.
Dandel posted in a not-really-contributing way D2. Was happy with having voted and did some banter, including gems like "u fokkin wat mate??". Then, some sicklucker stuff, mainly about having two actions. Which actually is an interesting point. I can do one action per cycle. Sicklucker claims to have done two in one cycle? The more I hear about this guy the more I want him dead. He's just creating more and more confusion (nevertheless I think he's actually town). Well, Dandel... yeah, no, that's not enough for a town read.
Bill Murray at this point goes on the "lynch/kill idc" pile, i.e. scum. Self-explanatory. Not participating at all, he should be modkilled as soon as possible. It's absolutely frustrating to have such players in a game where you put effort in.
I still haven't got a final judgement of Artanis. It's interesting that he seemingly was fine with believing Koshi's claim D2 (telling me even that Koshi's rage is town indicative for him) yet he's neither hard defending nor is he pushing him. He's wishywashy at best at this point. Also, he's hard townreading ritoky for meta reasons which I absolutely do not like. Tubesock and Acro are in his "people-that-are-present-and-kinda-doing-things range" which he claims to be a town lean - and with that, he never looked into them again. Hard scumread on Vivax, soft defense on Lunatic, meta reasons again. Gets called out for that Lunatic meta read tho and gets proven wrong. Decides to townread Acro, puts Wave into the center of attention and townreads him, townreads Sicklucker, too. After all, his filter has a lot of reads which are kinda ballsy and not exactly thread-sentimenty. Artanis comes on the town pile now.
ExO_ completely disappeared. Four pages of filter. Lynch or kill, who cares. There we go, scum list.
Acro stays town.
Another update:
beentheredonethat Koshi sicklucker Artanis Acrofales
Vivax Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo ritoky Skynx Bill Murray ExO_ + Show Spoiler + 4 iamperfection 9 Dandel Ion 10 Koroko 13 Kurumi 14 Hopeless1der 17 Tubesock 19 GlowingBear 20 Lord Tolkien 22 WaveofShadow
So far, so good. Lunch break over. Will look into the guys I haven't a clear read on.
I looked at the nightkills that mafia likely did. I didn't include Lord Tolkien because I killed him. Holyflare, NocturneMage, and beentheredonethat all scummed ExO_ and Skynx. HF and Noct scummed Koshi but beentheredonethat did not. I think that is why they died and Dandel Ion, iamperfection and WaveofShadow haven't. I think ExO_, Koshi, and Skynx have the highest likelyhood of flipping mafia. Then will be Kurumi probably and maybe one of the 3rd parties. I trust Ritoky's claim far more than Artanis's. Ughhhh Tubesock whyyy
Wow your TMI is so much worse than Koshis
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Lol actually I guess that's only really bad if Koshi AND tubesock are mafia
lol I've been doing this too long.
Need a break
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On November 04 2016 14:09 Tubesock wrote: It's a huge compliment if you lynch me for TMI. Well, basically you've essentially nailed the scumteam from the start of the game or, you're scum and know who is on the scumteam.
And if we're lynching you for it we believe that you're not that good.
So.....
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