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Generally speaking your give the replacement time to actually do things thanks you before you just automatically lunch him.
And b0ston obviously your think my slot is scummy anyway?
On the note on DF he is a possible scum from the limited amount of reading I have done. (Might change ) his reaction to the lynch was sommmmewhat unnatural to me.
Omega could be scum but I'm not sure atm he is nor of a policy than anything.
Unsure about a third possibility have a few filters to go through but the way the voting and lynch went down it made me think unless (will look into) it was a landslide that mafia reallydidnt care which person was lynched today overly and the way the thread re a up until eod not anyone was really going against or pushing another lynch.
More than likely scum didn't care as they are mainly avoiding conversation or are super in the edge atm.
Just prelim thoughts atm
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Eh I lied actually just looked at the vote, I'm kinda surprised some of the beta and better players didn't try to get a second real lynch going.
Super bad that many votes without any scum trying to push off really. And apparently nobody defending him. Really bad and indicative of a town lynch
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Yeah DF reaction to the lynch and his going about the lynch doesn't feel exactly right so far to me.
Me being off the lynch is interesting though. Need to look at votes, but the throw awayb is interesting there.
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On January 11 2017 10:51 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 10:49 Damdred wrote: Yeah DF reaction to the lynch and his going about the lynch doesn't feel exactly right so far to me.
Me being off the lynch is interesting though. Need to look at votes, but the throw awayb is interesting there. same question (although slightly answered) what you think of SW team proposition?
If me is scum which is possible I don't think he's scum with sw necessarily.
It's possible, it's a distancing tactic but I don't think a newb would do it here.
No then again hunting just based on teams won't win is the game here as a don't have that info so is weigh both separately atm which I will do shortly.
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On January 11 2017 11:10 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 10:57 Damdred wrote:On January 11 2017 10:51 ika42 wrote:On January 11 2017 10:49 Damdred wrote: Yeah DF reaction to the lynch and his going about the lynch doesn't feel exactly right so far to me.
Me being off the lynch is interesting though. Need to look at votes, but the throw awayb is interesting there. same question (although slightly answered) what you think of SW team proposition? If me is scum which is possible I don't think he's scum with sw necessarily. It's possible, it's a distancing tactic but I don't think a newb would do it here. No then again hunting just based on teams won't win is the game here as a don't have that info so is weigh both separately atm which I will do shortly. thats not what i mena, i mean the team of omg/calix/DF i have her as town
I don't think just on a cursery look I like that team necessarily.
I think Calix has a problem or two just from my skim, not really pushing the lynch away from (theboutside admittedly ) whatvlooked like a town lynch. But she has issued with tunneling as well as town in my experience. So kinda of meh oon her in General but will have a better grasp on a filter.
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Just a quick glance through filet so far but Cal I more a town lean atm. And from interaction ika is a town lean as well.
I do find me filter interesting, hyper self concious of himself. His vote today was bad and refusal to really go into any detail of his scum reads (in total) is bad. Lol he had a lot of reasons to vote someone else and push that but he just settles for really a no reason vote (throw away) when he could of had a seasoned vote.
Makes no sense.
Darth and me are my scum means atm
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Scum list:
Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.
His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.
I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.
+ Show Spoiler + While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.
Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.
I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though
still reading filters atm any questions i'm around
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On January 09 2017 07:55 Vivax wrote: A quick elaboration:
The reason for him jumping on Grack looked fabricated and probably is.
The case right now looks like he realized that he doesn't actually have real scumreads so he proceeded to make one.
And a bit is tone/style of the post. It suddenly comes out of nowhere and is just put out there. It introduces with "I feel that Onegu has fallen under the radar" which sounds awkward to me.
He also doesn't seem to engage in conversation for most of the game just works down the posts directed at him, apologizing etc.
Vivax why didn't you live so we could work together :'(
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I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.
Reactions to whats going on in the thread Reads accurate to what hes been talking about Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads
I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well
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On January 12 2017 02:17 Calix wrote: I'm here but not feeling very well. Tried to filter-dive earlier but nothing will sink in -.-
Hi calix, what do you think of squishy just as a knee jerk? or what I posted about him etc?
(i've sort of missed you btw)
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On January 12 2017 02:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:19 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:17 Calix wrote: I'm here but not feeling very well. Tried to filter-dive earlier but nothing will sink in -.- Hi calix, what do you think of squishy just as a knee jerk? or what I posted about him etc? (i've sort of missed you btw) Thanks, I didn't totally hate playing with you in the past either <3 I don't agree with most of your squishy reasons because they could be explained by him being new/ not knowing how people play here. Using strange logic is NAI, questioning why someone votes for a scum-read is NAI and I don't think his Onegu read by itself means a lot. Your point about him following thread sentiment is something I think holds true but you buried that among a lot of fluff points. I would like to hear your ME bad-town reason because he's one of my stronger scum-reads atm. His posts don't have a clear thought process and he admits to wanting to hide information with his vote which I don't see town motive for at all and nobody has given one. Can you explain your jump from Onegu maybe scum to Onegu prolly town? I don't have strong feelings on him - he just pops in, fires out some posts and then fucks off again and none of those posts have strong town or scum motivations imo.
Yeah its a bit fluffy tbh, his grack vote though is bad vivax saw it first so i wont' claim the idea. I think hes a decent scum lean though.
As for ME its so horrible, he asked the host in thread if people who die do the thread know who killed them etc. Its horrible reasoning but if he was scum he would just ask in his qt instead of hte thread more than likely or his scum coach would tel him. Totally horrible reasoning though, besides that he has a few scum signals though
I remembered something about onegu, the more useful onegu is early in the game the more likely he is scum really. Its difficult to pinpoint his alignment though later in the game hes easier to read if you can get him to put work in. But its more a gut feeling with how hes approaching the game and not really caring.
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On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote: I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.
Reactions to whats going on in the thread Reads accurate to what hes been talking about Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads
I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well silverwolf is female fyi
Whops well she ^_-
what do you think of silver?
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On January 12 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote: I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.
Reactions to whats going on in the thread Reads accurate to what hes been talking about Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads
I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well silverwolf is female fyi Whops well she ^_- what do you think of silver? lmao How did you not figure out the answer from SW's filter?
I always call everyone he/him i still call gb a she hehe
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On January 12 2017 02:42 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote: I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.
Reactions to whats going on in the thread Reads accurate to what hes been talking about Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads
I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well silverwolf is female fyi Whops well she ^_- what do you think of silver? lmao How did you not figure out the answer from SW's filter? I always call everyone he/him i still call gb a she hehe I meant the answer to "what do you think of SW?" since the way SW/ ika read each other is the most explained thing in the chat, lol.
oh well I forgot and just haven't read Ika yet tbh
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On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:Scum list: Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much. His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway. I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow. + Show Spoiler + While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.
Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.
I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though still reading filters atm any questions i'm around I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it. Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.
Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty
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On January 12 2017 02:59 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:43 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:42 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote: I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.
Reactions to whats going on in the thread Reads accurate to what hes been talking about Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads
I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well silverwolf is female fyi Whops well she ^_- what do you think of silver? lmao How did you not figure out the answer from SW's filter? I always call everyone he/him i still call gb a she hehe I meant the answer to "what do you think of SW?" since the way SW/ ika read each other is the most explained thing in the chat, lol. oh well I forgot and just haven't read Ika yet tbh It's weird that of all the things you asked ika about it's SW since that's something that everyone knows and ika has talked about a lot and SW is a town-read to you. Your priorities are whack there is what I am saying. I'm not sure how you're catching up or if you're just filter-diving but if you're reading the thread chronologically then I don't see how that slipped you by.
Just filter diving atm, my priorities just randomly select people and read them until i'm done.
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On January 12 2017 02:58 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:44 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:Scum list: Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much. His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway. I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow. + Show Spoiler + While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.
Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.
I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though still reading filters atm any questions i'm around I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it. Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read. Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty 1gu because of my prior points.
No town reads or other scum reads?
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On January 12 2017 02:59 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:Scum list: Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much. His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway. I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow. + Show Spoiler + While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.
Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.
I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though still reading filters atm any questions i'm around I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it. Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read. Why did you have this reaction to Grack's play (basically stubbornness, right?) when ika and SW were basically doing the same thing. Ika was also very standoffish with Vivax later in the day, like did that "really progress the thread?" Why were/are you drawing different conclusions on them?
I sort of like this post its really natural and feels right.
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squishy is looking worse atm with every post meh.
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On January 12 2017 07:21 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 03:01 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:58 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 02:44 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:Scum list: Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much. His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway. I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow. + Show Spoiler + While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.
Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.
I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though still reading filters atm any questions i'm around I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it. Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read. Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty 1gu because of my prior points. No town reads or other scum reads? My townie reads are: SW, Ika, Calix, and ofc our sick play VIG Kmatt. scum: onegu, DF, ME
Can you explain each of your scum reads in a one to four sentence blurb.
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