I want us to be able to form 1 big wagon, and not like 1-2 seperate votes on multiple people so that scum can decide the lynch etc.
But I need a good case before I'll vote someone, I won't vote someone if I have no reason to believe they're scum
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Prison Break
326 Posts
May 19 2017 20:08 GMT
#2269
I want us to be able to form 1 big wagon, and not like 1-2 seperate votes on multiple people so that scum can decide the lynch etc. But I need a good case before I'll vote someone, I won't vote someone if I have no reason to believe they're scum | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 19 2017 20:09 GMT
#2271
Why would scum ever shoot the cop if they can rb? I can't make sense out of that. Unless if you're scum and you roleblocked HF? Also did grack retract his claim at all? | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 19 2017 20:10 GMT
#2272
On May 20 2017 05:08 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On May 20 2017 04:18 LightningStrike wrote: With that in mind I going to unvote until we have a confirmation of who we lynching today between Palmar and HF becuase I think the game will solve itself after lynching the scum of the two in my world. Still not mafia. Calling sicklucker mafia but don't want to lynch him though. Noted. Hey are you claiming doc or not. Or if you're mindgaming and don't want to answer, at least tell me you're mindgaming. Because I can't make reads if I don't know who is even claiming what anymore | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 19 2017 20:14 GMT
#2275
On May 20 2017 05:11 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On May 20 2017 05:06 Prison Break wrote: Either way we shouldn't be lynching a doc, because we should put scum for the task, if they nightkill the doc they give up the fact they can hold onto their fake claim etc. which gives us more info so with that said, and 3 doc claims, lynch should be between palmar and SL but, say I'm wrong on SL, which I have no reason to believe, but say I'm wrong on him: then I still wonder if palmar is the correct lynch, because it's based entirely on the theory that he framed himself to begin with. It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a probability also why is grack spawned town at all? depending on the scumteam, TW could've said whatever he wanted to, so why are people looking so much into this? I've seen scum leaving "hints" towards who are or aren't their partners in posts in case they flip, to lead town into more mislynches as well. I'm sceptic towards looking into TWs posts like that I'm confident that TW was the type of mafia that hard townread towns and left everyone else including his buddies and his daily mislynch at something more obfuscate. What do you base this one? Link me to earlier mafia games where he did this? | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 19 2017 20:39 GMT
#2281
On May 20 2017 05:19 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On May 20 2017 05:14 Prison Break wrote: On May 20 2017 05:11 Vivax wrote: On May 20 2017 05:06 Prison Break wrote: Either way we shouldn't be lynching a doc, because we should put scum for the task, if they nightkill the doc they give up the fact they can hold onto their fake claim etc. which gives us more info so with that said, and 3 doc claims, lynch should be between palmar and SL but, say I'm wrong on SL, which I have no reason to believe, but say I'm wrong on him: then I still wonder if palmar is the correct lynch, because it's based entirely on the theory that he framed himself to begin with. It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a probability also why is grack spawned town at all? depending on the scumteam, TW could've said whatever he wanted to, so why are people looking so much into this? I've seen scum leaving "hints" towards who are or aren't their partners in posts in case they flip, to lead town into more mislynches as well. I'm sceptic towards looking into TWs posts like that I'm confident that TW was the type of mafia that hard townread towns and left everyone else including his buddies and his daily mislynch at something more obfuscate. What do you base this one? Link me to earlier mafia games where he did this? Show nested quote + On May 12 2017 05:01 Tumblewood wrote: rayn, grack, ls, probably prison break are all town. Palmar Hf vivax sl not worth lynching d1 for various reasons. anyone else I would at least consider today. but fuba promised to do stuff and didn't so I am sticking on him unless you try to go lynch like grack He's mentioning all players currently alive here, including yourself and a flipped rayn as town. The only ones he keeps at a waffly level are Palmar, HF, me and SL and to a small extent you. And those are exactly who I'm aiming to lynch this game. Always 1 scum in Palmar and HF and if we don't win, then we get SL. Show nested quote + On May 14 2017 08:45 Tumblewood wrote: fuck, everything about the nk says palmar over hf but it's so bad that it has to be wifom. because you are not telling me that anyone other than hf/palmar chose the nightkill Also this heavily implies one or both of Palmar and HF. Sorry but if you don't see that TW had trouble not keeping his perfect information out of his posts, I don't know how to explain it better to you. So you're aiming to lynch palmar, HF, SL, and maybe me? And somehow this should convince me that you're town? You're stretching. You're either doc or scum which is the reason you're never the lynch today, but your logic is bad You could've easily told him to do that btw because you keep bringing it up now... also you didn't link me to earlier games, where HF did | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 19 2017 21:43 GMT
#2301
outside of cherry picking TW's posts please, I don't buy that | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 04:31 GMT
#2334
On May 20 2017 12:25 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On May 20 2017 05:06 Prison Break wrote: Either way we shouldn't be lynching a doc, because we should put scum for the task, if they nightkill the doc they give up the fact they can hold onto their fake claim etc. which gives us more info so with that said, and 3 doc claims, lynch should be between palmar and SL but, say I'm wrong on SL, which I have no reason to believe, but say I'm wrong on him: then I still wonder if palmar is the correct lynch, because it's based entirely on the theory that he framed himself to begin with. It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a probability also why is grack spawned town at all? depending on the scumteam, TW could've said whatever he wanted to, so why are people looking so much into this? I've seen scum leaving "hints" towards who are or aren't their partners in posts in case they flip, to lead town into more mislynches as well. I'm sceptic towards looking into TWs posts like that vivax is the doctor... hell I even soft claimed doctor your so tunneled its insane what, you softclaimed doc? so we have 4 doc claims? like I said I'll buy vivax being doc if and only if grack and HF acknowledge this as well I'm here | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 04:33 GMT
#2335
and right now I only receive mystery and sandbagging, nothing I can work with | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 04:40 GMT
#2337
if HF unclaims I'll take vivax as confirmed town if not, it's between the 2 of them, and vivax isn't looking good at all. only reason I'd consider him town is if HF unclaims | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 05:12 GMT
#2340
I'll vote HF because I don't want scum to decide the lynch Still not convinced you're town for the record but I'm not going to be able to convince 4 people after I've already brought up all arguments, and we need a lynch. If HF flips scum you'll receive townie points for pushing it through though At least this lynch is better than palmars because palmar got greenchecked day 1, which gives him over 67% of being town (can only frame 1 of the 3 members, aka 33% it was palmar) | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 16:13 GMT
#2421
But no way we're not lynching HF after everyone wants him dead + he retracted being doc So vivax being doc, palmar being green checked. If it's not grack then it must be LS + SL | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 16:40 GMT
#2424
If HF Flips scum then SL is town | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 17:25 GMT
#2426
We need to come to a consensus once HF flips I don't think they're a likely team tbh | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 20 2017 18:48 GMT
#2429
I think he's scum regardless of HF's flip tbh If HF is scum I can see him bussing here because if HF dies, it makes LS look better If HF is town then everyone voting him (and palmar before) instead of LS/SL is something to be concerned about | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 21 2017 00:57 GMT
#2506
Sicklurker is clear for pushing HF over others extremely hard Palmar had green check + opposed HF entire game so also clear Vivax doc | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 21 2017 17:11 GMT
#2590
On May 21 2017 20:44 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2017 20:30 Vivax wrote: In HFs world. "Hey HF, let's lynch Palmar" "nah I'm gonna go for these SL and LS guys instead" If we assume Palmar is town, what was HF thinking? (1) "I'm going to die before him and frame him with association on the off chance that they lynch him tomorrow herp" (2) "I'm going to mislynch him, then I get killed by paranoid townies anyway derp" Both scenarios result in his death. But scenario (1) is just straight out suicide which is what happened. HF killed himself this day. Indisputable fact. And the only argument here for him to suicide here that you can bring from a perspective where Palmar is town, is that he wanted to frame Palmar by helping him. Palmar who voted for him without batting an eye when given the opportunity. And the conclusion is: Two ways out. Both with the same result for HF (one being mislynch Palmar while being alive, and one being mislynch Palmar after getting lynched) . And he chose the worst to achieve the same result he could have achieved by simply mislynching Palmar? That's where Palmar = town all falls apart. This is what you call a checkmate by the way. Nobody can ever argue against this, it's cristalline, hard logic. While I understand the frustration for being scumread for this without a chance to defend yourself, it's the nail in the coffin and nothing else is required. While this is indeed a strong argument that makes me want to consider Palmar again, there are 3 even stronger reasons why I won't, and they are: - palmars green check which means even if he's mafia - there's only 33% chance he framed himself - palmar has raised a good point where he said that HF is mafia, and based on palmars play himself it seems townie - HF suiciding and wanting LS dead is something I interpret it as him trying to get people to townread LS and it's working. I also didnt like LS' posting that day I don't think I'd ever vote palmar here | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 21 2017 17:38 GMT
#2592
Apparently not TW because of the red check. You'd assume they frame the same person every night for consistency' sake. So between HF and Palmar which one is the better frame? | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 21 2017 20:34 GMT
#2607
On May 22 2017 02:44 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2017 02:11 Prison Break wrote: On May 21 2017 20:44 Vivax wrote: On May 21 2017 20:30 Vivax wrote: In HFs world. "Hey HF, let's lynch Palmar" "nah I'm gonna go for these SL and LS guys instead" If we assume Palmar is town, what was HF thinking? (1) "I'm going to die before him and frame him with association on the off chance that they lynch him tomorrow herp" (2) "I'm going to mislynch him, then I get killed by paranoid townies anyway derp" Both scenarios result in his death. But scenario (1) is just straight out suicide which is what happened. HF killed himself this day. Indisputable fact. And the only argument here for him to suicide here that you can bring from a perspective where Palmar is town, is that he wanted to frame Palmar by helping him. Palmar who voted for him without batting an eye when given the opportunity. And the conclusion is: Two ways out. Both with the same result for HF (one being mislynch Palmar while being alive, and one being mislynch Palmar after getting lynched) . And he chose the worst to achieve the same result he could have achieved by simply mislynching Palmar? That's where Palmar = town all falls apart. This is what you call a checkmate by the way. Nobody can ever argue against this, it's cristalline, hard logic. While I understand the frustration for being scumread for this without a chance to defend yourself, it's the nail in the coffin and nothing else is required. While this is indeed a strong argument that makes me want to consider Palmar again, there are 3 even stronger reasons why I won't, and they are: - palmars green check which means even if he's mafia - there's only 33% chance he framed himself - palmar has raised a good point where he said that HF is mafia, and based on palmars play himself it seems townie - HF suiciding and wanting LS dead is something I interpret it as him trying to get people to townread LS and it's working. I also didnt like LS' posting that day I don't think I'd ever vote palmar here Why do you assume that mafia picks the frame randomly? Palmar is the roleblocker, had some soft suspicion on him D1, and is generally speaking the most experienced player in the game, with mafias strongest role. He gets checked N1. Do you think that he didn't see that coming? To be honest I didn't think about it that way. In general when someone gets green checked I auto-assume it's correct because often it is, and stuff like godfather, or in this case, framer, are often unlikely. If you guys are certain they'd frame palmar over HF i'd have to reconsider... But it still seems strange that HF would connect to palmar so obviously by outright wanting anyone dead except him? Not sure what to think about that tbh. Palmars posts today seem very townie to me | ||
Prison Break
326 Posts
May 21 2017 20:39 GMT
#2609
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Prison Break
326 Posts
May 21 2017 20:48 GMT
#2610
But I think HF would be trying to kill his teammate there. Because defending makes palmar look bad if HF flips, he seems like a good player so he'd do the opposite. Like he would probably attack LS Because it's so unexpected and people would assume palmar scum instead of LS... which is exactly what he wants. And setting up a mislynch before or after your death is about as good - but this way, he'd also make LS look townier. So I'm inversing my immediate thoughts (defending = scummates), because HF seems like the type to do the opposite. Basically what palmar says: mafia is manipulating people, and intentionally pocketing townies etc. I really doubt palmar would flip mafia to be honest. | ||
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