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On May 07 2017 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: You shouldn't, me Palmar and Holyflare will fuck up and kill each other and you'll just cruise to victory. Aaaaaand now I'm afraid of us all rolling town | ||
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On May 10 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote: slam obviously XD. Fuba tell me something interesting The Titanic was the first ship to use the SOS signal. | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:13 Skynx wrote: This is quite bad. If he feels like elaborating on reads why not do it? You do not want to progress the game? Super bad reasoning blaming rest of the eventualities bad to follow a simple reasoning to sheep a 2 post intro (no disrespect PB i like you ). I don't feel like elaborating. My town reads will not progress the game. | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:15 Tumblewood wrote: I wanna lynch fuba hard he has been absent almost all game (worth a shot d1 for that reason alone imo) and when here has not said anything except to sheep a bad case you do you boo | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:20 Tumblewood wrote: it was pretty bad, unless you have the point of view of someone who has never been on this site Guess we're just gonna disagree :/ | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:22 Prison Break wrote: Quick look at the current votecount The fact that there's not 1 big wagon means we've prob caught at least 1 or 2 scum, and scum is now trying to spread the votes between multiple people so that it's less obvious as to who it is If 1 townie received 2-3 votes + heat, you'd expect scum to push it harder and it to form 1 big wagon on them, but right now that's not happening so we may be on the right track Ooh, I like you. | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote: Is it bad I starting to think Palmar might be scum for sheer fact he not much of person who sheep's other people's cases on Day 1? Did he sheep? | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:33 LightningStrike wrote: He said he would which is still not normal on Day 1 in fact he claims his best day as town on finding scum is Day 1. He did mention that he'd sheep you, but he's still voting grack. I don't think it indicates anything. | ||
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On May 12 2017 05:01 Tumblewood wrote: rayn, grack, ls, probably prison break are all town. Palmar Hf vivax sl not worth lynching d1 for various reasons. anyone else I would at least consider today. but fuba promised to do stuff and didn't so I am sticking on him unless you try to go lynch like grack Made no promises | ||
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SL definitely out? | ||
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On May 12 2017 05:53 darthfoley wrote: Also just for the record, tw's vote on me is real bad Bad or scummy? | ||
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On May 12 2017 07:09 darthfoley wrote: I know. I will have time later to think about it. Right now I have to go to some senior toast thing celebrating surviving four years of college with only $25k in debt! Congrats~ | ||
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On May 13 2017 10:56 Tumblewood wrote: ofc mafia will concede before night is over because of that case lol | ||
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On May 13 2017 15:22 Vivax wrote: 1 day and 8 hours since your last post and this is all you have to say? Yes. Had to sleep and work. And there's really little necessary to say in my defense - it's very simple. I decided to not get entirely worked up like I usually do over D1. There's not enough information for me to come to a good enough conclusion to feel even moderately confident about a lynch. As I said earlier, I didn't feel like lynching either of the other two top wagons at the time, and there really wasn't an alternative for me. Guess I could have voted to no-lynch... buy why? I basically already was. As for the "he was so excited to play" argument - that's true. But D1 and the back and forth nonsense between grack, rayn, and eventually HF reminded me what I hate about the early game. Not gonna waste my time analyzing a word-tornado when there is very little information that is going to convince me D1 to vote for any of those people. I have maybe half an hour before I have to get to work, and it's unlikely I'll be back on again before about noon, tomorrow. If you're gonna vote me (which, despite what I've said, I don't really feel is unreasonable), I highly recommend not wasting the time discussing me again until I start posting more. Even if I am scum, there are two more and very little you can draw about them, I assume, from looking at my filter (both because I am actually not scum, and because I have said very little). | ||
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On May 13 2017 17:31 sicklucker wrote: Also im the doctor and mafia medic dodged obv Who'd you save, and why'd you claim now? | ||
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On May 13 2017 23:24 LightningStrike wrote: I always do O_o You can check the database for my past games and see the truth there. Not really a question for you to answer, but I'll assume it's true if no one else conflicts with it. There is a 0% chance I'm going to read any previous games during this one as per my not-getting-overwhelmed strategy. | ||
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He wasn't even under that much suspicion. Why claim doc with a roleblocker in the game when there was little/no threat of being lynched? I can't think of a scenario where this is a good idea except if you're scum, you know it's an all-vanilla game, and you know you can fakeclaim without being countered. | ||
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On May 13 2017 23:32 Holyflare wrote: Why did you vote sl when you said he wasn't mafia anymore and why didn't you join another wagon despite being around? Explained already. My filter isn't that long, HF - I'm positive you can handle it. | ||
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That's correct. You've played enough with me to know how little impact I'm likely to have at the last minute, and how unsure I'm likely going to be on D1, so why would I waste my energy just to say "no! don't lynch DF" when #1) I don't actually know that he's town and #2) even if I did, what effect is it really gonna have? And as far as Damdred is concerned, I hadn't considered him enough to really form an opinion. Should I then voice that fact in the thread for no reason? There was little for me to say, I didn't have a better lynch, so I stuck with my original vote. | ||
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On May 14 2017 00:07 Holyflare wrote: The real lack of everything from everyone is great. Thoughts on the sl claim for literally no reason? | ||
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Townreads will come over lunch. | ||
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On May 14 2017 02:03 Holyflare wrote: Thing is you also stated that you "didn't want to lynch df or grack" But the way things were going both df and grack would have been lynched because of your sl (who you didn't really scum read) vote. So, no, it's not true your vote was as good as a no lynch. What's true is that you were perfectly clear letting your town reads (grack/df) die over your sl read. Heck, df WAS going to die and you still afkd on sl? So your argument is that I'm scum because normally I have absolute lunch power on d1, and I'm not living up to that? | ||
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On May 14 2017 05:04 sicklucker wrote: it was a jooookeee I claimed doctor in my last 3 games =[ Should probably stop that. | ||
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From the top of my head I had few thoughts about skynx, damdred, or df. Iirc tw was in my town pile, but something moved him back to null - might have been palmar(?) Pointing out that he was kinda talking nonsense, but I'd have to go back and re-read to remember clearly. Still not a fan of him, but that might just be omgus. I think I'm forgetting someone. | ||
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On May 14 2017 05:37 Holyflare wrote: "few thoughts" on skynx, damdred, df? Like what? Also get to the sl bit too. Like i gave them little thought. Basically no thought about damdred, excluding the thought that his lunch came up quickly from nothing - made me uncomfortable to switch to him. Nothing about df until he started posting later on and I just got a feeling about his posts - guess they just felt sincere. And I just looked through skynx's filter and remember thinking that he sounded townie when talking with rayn about my posts. And again, not much to say about sl. I thought what PB said was good, but no one contested the fact that sl would do the same thing as either alignment, so I went to look elsewhere. It was between grack and df, and at that time I didn't want either lynched. I had no alternative, so I stayed where I was. He could entirely be scum. Nothing said about him made him distinctly town. You said before that I did the care who was lynched, and that's partially right. Of sl, grack, and df, at the time I was posting, I had less reason not to vote for sl. After that, I really had no horse in the race. I thought df sounded sincere, but I've been fooled before. And I didn't really have an opinion of damdred, and didn't have much time to form one, so I let it unfold without throwing a basically random vote into the mix. | ||
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There's two possibilities: total lurker, obliviously self-sabotaging, trumpian-fact-creator scum fuba, or town fuba who didn't have the game solved D1, and for once didn't pretend to have reads just to say he had reads. | ||
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On May 14 2017 02:19 fuba wrote: Because the voting thread has been retroactively changed to reflect the earlier vote count mistake, maybe? | ||
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HF do you remember what the mistake was? | ||
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On May 14 2017 06:53 Holyflare wrote: Yes it was vivax's vote on df on the vote count AFTER YOUR POST. If that is true, then I'm legit prescient lol | ||
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On May 14 2017 08:38 Holyflare wrote: Amazing how you can call a future vote count as your reasoning for actions before it. Truly amazing. Yet you couldn't vote a better wagon at all :p Not only that, but I reference the future vote count before it even happens, in that quote you keep pulling out. Like, the situation doesn't make sense at all unless I legit think it's 2-grack, 2-df. Not as scum or town. Either way, if you're right, then I knew the vote count before it even happened. My post you keep quoting makes it clear that this isn't something I made up after the fact. | ||
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On May 12 2017 05:51 fuba wrote: I don't really want DF. Also don't want grack. SL definitely out? Gonna have a hard time quoting much on my phone, but this is the post at which I declared I didn't want to vote df or grack. This falls after the vote count mistake, and before it was corrected. And for the last time - I didn't find a great alternative to sl. That is basically the only reason my vote was still on him. That and the fact that nothing he had done made him town, so I wasn't worried about voting him. If he got lynched, I wasn't losing a town read. And before you mention df vs damdred - I wasn't gonna throw myself into that mess over an "I think df sounds sincere." He was a tone-based town read, which i know holds little weight for most of you but is generally important to me. It wasn't going to convince, just distract. This is the last post defending myself - next will hopefully contain scum reads (but it is unlikely that will come before about 12 hours have passed). | ||
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On May 14 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote: Why the fuck am i lumped into 100% of people's scum lists. JK, this is the last post. I don't think you're scum right now. Most of the time someone is crazy-tunneled on me they're town. (Crazy defining tunneled, not you :p) | ||
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On May 15 2017 00:43 Vivax wrote: youre lucky im phoneposting. what should i care what you have been discussing with hf when my argument has nothing to do with that? this looks just like you erecting a straw man. fact remains, previous to this post you havent been scumhunting. you have clung to calling sl scum and havent ree evaluatef openly for a lobg time after. then you spent an etwrnity of posts just talking about yourself. but that doäidnt drive the game forwaed at all. for otherw but especislly for yourself. when around drunk i was talking about rayn anf all that didnt even bother you cause you dont feellike you have something to say unless otherw attack you. if its your town game its very poor, so you have to be lynched. I have not been lynched yet, and you know it's my town game. And if you're town you should absolutely care because you're voting me for clarifying a situation that you easily could have clarified with a single post. But you didn't. And now you're voting me without examining the evidence. I don't know how this is "erecting a straw man," I have also not clung to calling sl scum. The only time I've called him scum was when I voted him D1. And I haven't had the time to reevaluate the game because I've been pointlessly defending myself against HF because you didn't step forward and simply say "fuba is telling the truth on this, HF." | ||
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On May 15 2017 01:55 Holyflare wrote: but I already knew about the mod error and it had nothing to do with my case on you and in fact showed that what you were saying didn't match up at all No... I've made it clear that what I was saying made 100% sense. Are we even reading the same game? | ||
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If I get lynched - TW, SL, and vivax are not allowed to vote HF. | ||
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Brings me back to no strong scumreads atm, though. While I find skynx's scumlist really, really weird, I don't know if it makes him scummy. It does set him up to vote for the lynch that loses today (since it seems like it's going to be either HF or I, though I would prefer neither). Feel like he should be pressed for an explanation of how we are scum together before one of us is gone. | ||
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On May 15 2017 03:31 Grackaroni wrote: Fuba why are you so confident reading HF town? Very similar reasons to his read on me, I suppose lol. He seems (seemed?) to really think I'm scum. And he just raised a good point that there's very few people raising alternatives or discussing anything. Seems like almost everyone except HF and I are pretty content lynching between us, and that makes me uncomfortable. I think I'm also having some flashbacks to the haunted mansion game he keeps mentioning. Pretty sure I was one of the people who voted him then, and I didn't take it off because I was afraid he was crafty enough as scum to fool my tone reads. I ended up being right about df D1, so I'm trusting it again for HF on D2. And at this point, the easiest thing he could have done after tunneling me all day would have been to sit on the vote. Why, as scum, would you so staunchly argue I'm scum for a day and then drop it for what boils down to a tone read? My only concern is that he's buddying me, but I'm really not the best person to buddy, and I don't think HF generally relies on that kind of thing to win games. | ||
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On May 13 2017 17:31 sicklucker wrote: Also im the doctor and mafia medic dodged obv On May 14 2017 05:03 sicklucker wrote: there is a roleblocker in the game but is fuba the kind of guy who would notice that unless hes on the scum team? like he clearly read the op who does that On May 14 2017 05:04 sicklucker wrote: it was a jooookeee I claimed doctor in my last 3 games =[ This still bugs me, but I'm not sure if it should. He fakeclaims doc, then tries to cast me as scum for having read the OP, and then clarifies that it was a joke. Was anything gained from this, or just confusion? | ||
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On May 15 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote: sl is a confusing guy and nothing he says ever makes sense so there's that I might be more suspicious because all of his jokes and lies are at my expense. | ||
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On May 15 2017 04:19 Tumblewood wrote: the trouble here is that the only active players are the ones that are probably scum. and also ls And this doesn't strike you as odd? | ||
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On May 15 2017 04:17 Holyflare wrote: why does everyone think palmar is town? I have no idea how to read Palmar, and just kinda assume that everything he does is above me whether he's town or scum :/ | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:10 Tumblewood wrote: pls you were in hm3 when i started the shapelog wagon I can't remember. *shrugs* In any case. When I die, look at TW, who has just sat on my lynch all day using evidence that other people came up with and not reevaluating his read based on anything said. Look at sicklucker who has been on my dick all day, fakeclaimed, tried to loosely color me as scum because of nonsense reasons related to that fakeclaim, and then admitted he was lying. Also not reevaluating his vote based on new information. Also voted third on a wagon that he claims to have started through HF. Actually gonna say look at PB, who aside from basically afkvoting sl, is letting what I still assume is one of his townreads die without a fight, hasn't pushed the lynch of the wagon he's on, and seems generally comfortable with his vote not mattering at all this game. Don't lynch HF. He genuinely thought I was scum. That skynx scumteam is bananas. Don't really know what to think of LS - I don't have the time to analyze everyone's posts in this game, let alone the one's he's linking. Grack - maybe scummy. He's kinda cemented me as the lynch just as it seemed it might go in a few other directions - doubt I'm getting out of this. Haven't given him much thought because I have trouble analyzing high-content players. In general just kinda feels like he's around but not doing much (which I know is laughable from me, but he has like a 7 page filter and I can't think of any sizeable impact). in-post edit: while I'm writing this he at least seems to be truly considering the game/asking for feedback/thoughts, so I guess stick with slight town? Rayn - similar high-content player. Hard read, but instinct says town because there was no need for him to defend me D1. That's kind of a shit read, but it's basically all I've got on him. Palmar - even less presence than grack. Expected more, maybe, but I feel like I always expect more from what I've heard of Palmar. Could be he's always killed early, so I don't really get to experience the greatness that is supposed to be Palmar, but idk. Palmar rambling done~ Vivax - all my vivax thought was pretty self-centered, so I'm not sure what my real read on him is at the moment. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote: Fuba do you remember what your early game reads were that you didn't want to share? Shared them with HF I think. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:37 Palmar wrote: See this is the problem I have this game with you. You're essentially acting like you're 100% certain I must be mafia based on basically nothing. It's this sort of militant aggressive approach that just doesn't jive. I feel like if you were town you'd be far more laid back and willing to let people sort of chase their own things while just making the case by yourself. So the justification I can come up with is "well if he's mafia, it's much better to just stick to your guns and be uncompromising". It's harder for me to figure out why you'd act like this as town. Idk, you tonally feel like hitler, and he was a pretty bad dude. I feel like I can attest to the fact that HF is not entirely uncompromising. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote: Shennanying is not the right play here imo. fuba has to go. While voting for Vivax? K. Got my vote. | ||
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"Don't pull shenanigans - fuba has to die" *is voting for Vivax* | ||
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He doesn't seem wrong. | ||
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