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We get 2 nightkills
One now, then we lynch ritoky,. then another one
I doubt the nightkills will be random.I'm not sure if we want to give out all our info for discussion as it may influence the nightkill
Everyone should definitely be doing the work - but be careful with how many conclusions / lynch orders you drop
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On June 14 2017 13:56 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 13:44 Conversion wrote: like idk why you're pushing so hard on a case that's probably very unlikely. like you realize I'm not the only one who thinks you might be scum, right? like I'm just the one posting at this hour, or at all really That's why I'm talking to you cause pure here. I'll address the things PB says when he's around if he shows when I'm online too.
Ok I will still do this because I think you're never the nightkill anyway
I had you as scum and I quoted your posts, then HF also pointed out your posts were empty
I got distracted again with the TW townflip but you still make the most sense as scum to me
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Really I think beentheredonethat just played a bad game and he's going to blame me or get mad for lynching him / saying this but when his contribution is stuff like "lynch TW then HF" and tunneling me all game etc. + getting scumread based on content / play (really only reason people townread him was because he got emotional / mad rather than his actual play)
I got a bad feeling the moment he kept saying town lost etc. But still though he was scum despite it. Can't say I regret the lynch - so I will say I regret I scumread him the entire game because apparently I was wrong, for self-reflections sake
Beentheredonethat if you read this please don't get mad for getting scumread or lynched. Remember town is in the Dark and you tried to lynch townies as well (TW, HF, me, etc.) so imagine if everyone got mad at each other.... it's part of the game
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pb can I get your thoughts on why tube is scum
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On June 14 2017 22:52 Prison Break wrote: We get 2 nightkills
One now, then we lynch ritoky,. then another one
I doubt the nightkills will be random.I'm not sure if we want to give out all our info for discussion as it may influence the nightkill
Everyone should definitely be doing the work - but be careful with how many conclusions / lynch orders you drop
You're wrong about not wanting to give out too much info. Towns best asset is being active. If we can influence the night kill we make mafia be reactive rather than proactive. But this is more a discussion for post game.
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On June 15 2017 00:34 Conversion wrote: pb can I get your thoughts on why tube is scum
Townread on you 3 + me thinking he was scum previously
I'll filter him again because last time i connected him to TW so it may not be as strong now; but I don't have a specific scumread on either you grack or LS tbh
But yea when you read through his early play he goes after a lot of townies, basically the reasons HF pointed out about the posts being empty. But I'll admit some posts make me townread him as well so idk tbh
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Also the way ritoky "listed" him and fidei
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Just a heads up, the day post might be delayed by a half an hour or so from the deadline. I'm not sure when I'll be back yet.
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I went through the voting thread to do a vote analysis (because I couldn't come to conclusions based on posts / filters ). didnt'have as much time as I had hoped to but this is my legacy:
going to list the votes from people that are still alive mainly:
Day 1:
LightningStrike: voted Holyflare
Grackaroni: voted Blazinghand
Tubesock: voted Blazinghand
Ritoky: voted beentheredonethat
Onegu: voted Fide86, got killed
Fidei: voted Tumblewood
Blazinghand (2): Grackaroni, Tubesock Tumblewood (2): Holyflare, Fidei86 beentheredonethat (2): Prison Break, ritoky Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand Fidei86 (1): Onegu
Not Voting (5): Conversion, Tumblewood, Vivax, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike
would (grack/LS town, LS or conversion scum) ever not vote blazinghand here? they may want to stay away from tumblewood/beentheredonethat as to not stack all people on 1 mislynch
after BTDT voted conversion, ritoky switched to TW, btdt switched as well
Tumblewood (4): Fidei86, Holyflare, ritoky, beentheredonethat Blazinghand (3): Grackaroni, Tubesock, Vivax beentheredonethat (1): Prison Break Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand Fidei86 (1): Onegu LightningStrike (1): Tumblewood
Not Voting (2): Conversion, LightningStrike
here, conversion/LS could've joined the blazinghand wagon easily tubestock now unvotes, votes Tumblewood Lightningstrike also votes tumblewood
/ tumblewood claimed blue /
tubesock unvote, votes beentheredonethat (not blazinghand) HF votes LS, LS votes HF (typical OMGUS response) tubestock unvote, votes vivax
------------ will list "all" votes now, cause it gets important here:
TW votes Fidei conversion votes Prison Break TW unvote -votes Prison Break
Tumblewood (3): Fidei86, ritoky, beentheredonethat Blazinghand (2): Grackarono, Vivax Prison Break (2): Conversion, Tumblewood beentheredonethat (1): Prison Break Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand Fidei86 (1): Onegu LightningStrike (1): Holyflare Holyflare (1): LightningStrike Vivax (1): Tubesock
here, fidei with 1 vote on him, grack with 1 vote on him, TW with the claim: likely go to targets are blazinghand or myself ( if grack was already on blazing there's less options to "go to blazing" for scum)
tubesock unvote votes Fidei86
Tumblewood unvogtes votes fidei86
grackaroni unvotes votes Prison Break (trying to start another counterwagon?) then grackaroni unvotes votes Fide86 lightningstrike unvotes vitoes Fidei86
at this point tubesock gets the most towncred for killing fidei, like he could've switched to a lot of people instead. grackaroni may look bad for the fliplop on me. lightning gets no townread at all here
Day 2:
lightningstrike votes TW tubesock votes vivax Grackaroni vote Ritoky, Ritoky votes Grackaroni Conversion votes vivax ritoky unvot votes vivax (does this mean tubesock/conversion look better? mafia showed not to be afraid to stack votes on 1 person though)
Vivax (6): Holyflare, Blazinghand, Conversion, Prison Break, ritoky, Tumblewood Holyflare (2): Vivax, beentheredonethat ritoky (1): Grackaroni
Not Voting (2): Tubesock, LightningStrike
lightningstrike now goes after HF while tubesock goes after vivax
conclusions / final thoughts: Tubesock -> gets towcred for killing fidei, really don't think he's scum anymore lightningstrike -> natural omgus between him and HF could have a town motive, pretty null but not really a scumread conversion -> yea he puts in effort / seems townie. wanted to know why I thought tubesock was scum, which can make sense from a town motive grackaroni -> flipflop on me to fidei looks bad or good, but he earlier stated fidei was a bad lynch so he may look bad, but him voting ritoky and ritoky voting him looks good again (I think?). if i die, he has the least excuse to be alive
I may be wrong on tubesock, lightningstrike may be town
scum could be between conversion and grackaroni: grackaroni got greenchecked, has the least excuse to be alive, and both would explain the ritoky suicide (because scum felt confident the last scum could solo)
I'd say: look into grackaroni, look into his interactions with Ritoky and check if that was good or not. If it looks scummy /set up, grack is the final scum for sure. LS may be a possibility but I could see him being town as well
sorry this is really shitty legacy unless if grack's interactions with ritoky are bad (haven't had time to check them) then it's gold
gut = look into grack, if he looks town it's probably lightningstrike
I think Grack is the final scum if he doesn't die tonight
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Day Five
Prison Break the Vanilla Town was killed.
You have 48 hours to decide the next lynch. The cycle ends on Friday, Jun 16 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00).
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can I get some thoughts on who the last scum is since we're autoing ritoky
I kinda wanted to die bc I don't care about this game anymore
bye PB
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On June 15 2017 09:17 Conversion wrote:can I get some thoughts on who the last scum is since we're autoing ritoky I kinda wanted to die bc I don't care about this game anymore bye PB
Could be anyone really.
LS is freaking smart. He's always looking at how he plays. I can see a world where he realizes that he gets towned easier with the fewer and less concrete reads. Couple years ago he learned that people used his emotional state to town him. So then he went emo as mafia and won the game. But there's the nagging feeling that he would have to at least put in some work to line up miss lynches or something.
Grack could be too. He was gone most of the great claim wars of XXVI and maybe his fight with Ritoky was staged. It looked pretty sincere the first few times I read it.
You could be too. You post a lot about how you're new to this and not good or whatever so that will make our expectations a little lower. But you are quite active lately and that's super pro town. If you're mafia I kinda don't mind losing to you if my other two townies AFK for days.
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hey feel free to leave me alive, and not delay deciding the game. i won't complain.
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We're definitely killing Ritoky because it gives us a free night kill.
To be honest I'm not all that enthused to spend a lot of time poring over filters when the person I spend a lot of time reading might not be here tomorrow, or I might not even be in the game anymore.
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On June 15 2017 10:10 Grackaroni wrote: We're definitely killing Ritoky because it gives us a free night kill.
To be honest I'm not all that enthused to spend a lot of time poring over filters when the person I spend a lot of time reading might not be here tomorrow, or I might not even be in the game anymore.
So you're mafia then. Got it.
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Three filters in 5 real life days.
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On June 15 2017 10:18 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 10:10 Grackaroni wrote: We're definitely killing Ritoky because it gives us a free night kill.
To be honest I'm not all that enthused to spend a lot of time poring over filters when the person I spend a lot of time reading might not be here tomorrow, or I might not even be in the game anymore. So you're mafia then. Got it. If you say so.
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I'll fight in LYLO. I'm probably not going to spend much time during this period.
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Spent the whole day packing for my week long vacation to Hawaii. I might be able to do some work while on plane while flying. Was hoping one of Conversion or Tubesock would get nk to make it easier on me. Anyways will vote ritoky.
On June 15 2017 09:56 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 09:17 Conversion wrote:can I get some thoughts on who the last scum is since we're autoing ritoky I kinda wanted to die bc I don't care about this game anymore bye PB Could be anyone really. LS is freaking smart. He's always looking at how he plays. I can see a world where he realizes that he gets towned easier with the fewer and less concrete reads. Couple years ago he learned that people used his emotional state to town him. So then he went emo as mafia and won the game. But there's the nagging feeling that he would have to at least put in some work to line up miss lynches or something. Grack could be too. He was gone most of the great claim wars of XXVI and maybe his fight with Ritoky was staged. It looked pretty sincere the first few times I read it. You could be too. You post a lot about how you're new to this and not good or whatever so that will make our expectations a little lower. But you are quite active lately and that's super pro town. If you're mafia I kinda don't mind losing to you if my other two townies AFK for days. Blame Damdred for making me break that meta in Cell because he wanted me to get better -.- I would of made it easier on me if I night killed someone else because PB is someone I could try to convince on other people.
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so are we all AFKing until ritoky lynch?
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