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/in barring any real life stuff, I promise to dedicate full time to D1, whatever my alignment.
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On July 09 2017 03:13 Race Bannon wrote: /cohost lol
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Pregame excuse: I will not be available to play Thursday the 13th. So if the game starts tonight, I won't be there for EOD1
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Remember when I said I was gonna tryhard D1 unless IRL happened ? Well:
On July 11 2017 18:57 Rels wrote: Pregame excuse: I will not be available to play Thursday the 13th. So if the game starts tonight, I won't be there for EOD1 Luckily tomorrow is a vacation day in France, so I'll force myself to play then.
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yo. Went home way later than expected, then a friend I had promised to play a video game with showed up. Available now, if someone could list me some cases that would be nice
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On July 15 2017 04:19 Holyflare wrote: read the thread instead not happening in 1h30
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On July 13 2017 23:20 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 23:07 rsoultin wrote: Explanaaaations job I -cracks whip- got company though so I'm out.
Joni in va, ad on literally anything. Koshi on anyhing other than me and tone reads/feels (that's just retarded lol ><) too to minions! i dont wanna reveal my shit on him but he is definitely mafia you will be sorely mistaken, I intentionally entered this game with my mafia meta. This lets me know you are town though so working as intended. This is scummy. This "trap" talk often comes from scum who thinks townies do that. When townies rarely do that.
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On July 15 2017 04:30 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 04:16 Rels wrote: yo. Went home way later than expected, then a friend I had promised to play a video game with showed up. Available now, if someone could list me some cases that would be nice You show up 10 mins after getting called out by HF. That's either a hell of s coincidence or you are actually monitoring the thread... If I was monitoring the thread that would be exactly something I wouldn't do p:
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On July 15 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote:remember that rels guy that promised to be around? I sure do + Show Spoiler + lol p:
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rayn's fitler is fucking awesome. OK got to the part where he pushes VA apparently.
On July 13 2017 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 23:13 VayneAuthority wrote: I am trying to establish reads on people based on how they react to my posts. I didnt really see anything interesting, mostly a bunch of spam. I'm here to change that. no way never you approach the game like this as town.
On July 13 2017 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 23:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 13 2017 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 23:20 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 13 2017 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 23:07 rsoultin wrote: Explanaaaations job I -cracks whip- got company though so I'm out.
Joni in va, ad on literally anything. Koshi on anyhing other than me and tone reads/feels (that's just retarded lol ><) too to minions! i dont wanna reveal my shit on him but he is definitely mafia you will be sorely mistaken, I intentionally entered this game with my mafia meta. This lets me know you are town though so working as intended. even if you did you never ever say what you did. It doesn't matter I don't need to read your posts anymore. Koshi needs to post more now then I will start an orgy If i am wrong on you in this game then you have magically started caring about how other people in the game perceive you. Like if we are completely honest here in almost every game i am town in you get mislynched after i have died because you dont give any fucks about the thread sentiment and all that jizz and noone can see that makes you town. I don't think you can change that much, because i think you are a lot like i am, and even i can't. I think there is no fucking way, you, VayneAuthority, suddenly care about town lynching a likely mafia suspect you also think is mafia, instead of you just being "no fucks given and this is who is scum". I just don't think that is true and you have to be mafia like every other time you do this. This is convincing. Especially since I know rayn has a great VA read
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On July 15 2017 04:54 Koshi wrote: Did some1 tell me why rsoultin isnt mafia? Koshi not being thread dictator is worrying
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Damdred seemed town in a post I read in your filter rayn. The one where he townread geript when you didn't
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On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Rels is a good policy lynch though. Why am I a good policy lynch ? It's often that I don't play on D1 and you should know it.
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On July 15 2017 05:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 05:08 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Rels is a good policy lynch though. Why am I a good policy lynch ? It's often that I don't play on any day and you should know it. Fixed that for you last game I've played with you I didn't play D1, fired up on D2 and lead lynches on 3 scums, then got you lynched. You scumread me all game.
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On July 15 2017 05:15 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 05:12 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 05:09 geript wrote:On July 15 2017 05:08 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Rels is a good policy lynch though. Why am I a good policy lynch ? It's often that I don't play on any day and you should know it. Fixed that for you last game I've played with you I didn't play D1, fired up on D2 and lead lynches on 3 scums, then got you lynched. You scumread me all game. And you've gone MIA for more games than I can count for more than just D1. What of it? not really. If I'm alive I almost always play past some point.
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On July 14 2017 22:53 Koshi wrote: My meta read on VA is not the same as rayns btw. For me VA is mafia when he builds up cred and then uses that build up cred to push mafia agenda. rayn scumreads VA already while he is building up the cred.
Which imo is way inferior.
Problem this game is that VA went for the "I entered with scummeta on purpose" defense which is bullshit as VA doesnt play anti town on purpose. He might not care to boost his own activity to get read easily. But never anti town on purpose. And as I said. Rayn was looking decent enough town already back then so va entering to trick rayn makes no sense. But if he did he should have defended against rayns attack with "good you are town" and not "lol mafia meta on purpose"
So VA is pretty much lock scum. Then:
On July 14 2017 23:02 Koshi wrote: Man... I had a really good meta read on VA like 3 years ago for when he does that I pretend I know dhit while I know nothing. Problem is I forgot if it made him mafia or town.
Probably mafia then 😁. But my mind said town when I rmemebered. ? You suddenly doubted that your meta read was for scum!VA ?
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On July 15 2017 05:20 rsoultin wrote:on skynx? i think that's a coin flip at best...i'd sooner vote with joni on va and i don't really like that either, lol >< but i know joni has a killer read on him. my reason for not wanting to lynch va is totally not game-related though (although i would also say that's a coin-flip if not for joni) so you have OGI on VA. And that's why you mentionned VA in your first post, even though he didn't post yet ?
On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote: -bounces-
can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first
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ok that's explained later
On July 13 2017 15:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 15:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote: -bounces-
can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec
also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!-
damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol ><
i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons Why me or va? i asked first ^^ and va is totally spite for saying no one lynches me cause i'm a girl anyway lol >< >> yes, i remember
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On July 15 2017 05:28 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 05:25 Rels wrote:ok that's explained later On July 13 2017 15:35 rsoultin wrote:On July 13 2017 15:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote: -bounces-
can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec
also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!-
damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol ><
i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons Why me or va? i asked first ^^ and va is totally spite for saying no one lynches me cause i'm a girl anyway lol >< >> yes, i remember Doesn't she say she doesn't want to lynch va in the most recent post, or am I bad at reading? yeah she does
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On July 15 2017 05:38 rsoultin wrote: did he like suddenly shit town rainbows somewhere in the pages i haven't read? no he's definitely scummy by not imitating his usual chairman Mao style. VA's trap is pretty scum indicative though + rayn meta read.
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On July 15 2017 05:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 05:40 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 05:38 rsoultin wrote: did he like suddenly shit town rainbows somewhere in the pages i haven't read? no he's definitely scummy by not imitating his usual chairman Mao style. VA's trap is pretty scum indicative though + rayn meta read. but i really should have/should have had more votes then >< i won't pretend part of it is just i want him to be town right now cause he's one of the few not being an ass, but why wouldn't scum pile on me if va were scum? 'cause it's fucking scary to vote for a counterwagon as scum. Last game we had a 7-6 town-scum vote and the 7 votes on town were town
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On July 15 2017 05:55 Damdred wrote: Va will flip town I think if that's thats last message that makes you think that, it shouldn't. It's still minutes before the flip and the vote is 6-4. Totally possible for scum!VA to post that. Totally different from annul last game, who minutes before the deadline was still analyzing votes and posts.
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On July 16 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote: Time to get real k. Dand and geript aren't masons.
Rels is red check.
##vote rels lol. Are you 100% committing to that ? It would make the game easy
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On July 16 2017 23:01 Holyflare wrote: I will never go down without a fight. If rels is green there is a confirmed framer. I will dump as much thought as possible into the game and never stop fighting. Framer almost always frames their own team. So you're committing I see. Noone else shall be lynched until one of me / HF flips scum ##Vote Holyflare
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On July 16 2017 23:04 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 23:01 Holyflare wrote: I will never go down without a fight. If rels is green there is a confirmed framer. I will dump as much thought as possible into the game and never stop fighting. If rels is green you are mafia. End of discussion. good
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I'm OK being traded for HF. But you all have to really commit to the HF lynch after I flip. Don't listen to anything he says, just vote him and discuss other stuff. The dude managed to not get lynched after he was red checked as scum. Now what's good is that I have absolutely no pressure. Let's see.
geript / Damdred claimed masons. They are very likely to be masons. Basically, you should lynch one in LYLO if they're still both alive. Until then they can be conf town.
rsoul emotional posts makes her town I think. I don't see her making these posts as scum.
Skynx is awesome. In particular his Koshi. I disagree with him but I see exactly where he's coming from. That's how I treated Palmar last game.
Koshi's pointless filter makes him scum. Even if he tryhards for one day later, the fact that it's not natural for him when it is usually natural for him is pretty damning.
These are my strong reads. HF / Koshi + 1 is pretty likely. Gonna read the rest of the filters to see where I stand about the other players.
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On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this rux is not "attacking skynx's case on someone else" he's attacking geript's case on skynx. Does that change anything ?
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On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote: VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes? What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong? They haven't voted yet. chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this Why is EC scum? i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him yes you did, you said he was your preferred lynch actually. What happened to the filtering ?
On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote: lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited
On July 15 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote: lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited Sick play? I must've missed it. i was talking about when he made up a read as ---sick bait--- What are you talking about ?
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"I can't be scum because scum would never do that"
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On July 16 2017 23:43 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 23:38 Rels wrote:On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this rux is not "attacking skynx's case on someone else" he's attacking geript's case on skynx. Does that change anything ? I was attacking skynx case on Rayn. well I don't understand anything about your post then. Gonna read it again with context of the thread
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On July 16 2017 23:46 ruXxar wrote:Relax. If rels is mafia you have nothing to worry about. yes p:
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On July 14 2017 07:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 06:33 emperorchampion wrote: My brain is pretty much jello right now. I'll summarize my thoughts on ruxxar sometime tomorrow after / if he answers the questions I posted. Didn't really get around to too productively reading skynx, whoops. Pz Reading your filter turns my brain into mush. It's like s cloud of words swarming around with no rhyme or rhythm. Could you try to put your evolution of scum reads on a timeline? I feel like every post of yours your opinion changes, like a leaf in the wind, what a strong reaction
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ruxxar what's your read on EC ?
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On July 16 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 23:46 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 23:43 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 23:38 Rels wrote:On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this rux is not "attacking skynx's case on someone else" he's attacking geript's case on skynx. Does that change anything ? I was attacking skynx case on Rayn. well I don't understand anything about your post then. Gonna read it again with context of the thread Basically I likened skynx case on Rayn to how btdt constructed his case on skynx in our last game. Basically I felt like skynx had missed out on some small crucial details that someone that was engaged in the thread at the time would've pickled up. Whereas someone who was just skimming the thread to catch up would miss. I was really undecided on whether that made skynx mafia or if it was just a bad town case. Why is there a "1" randomly in there ? "1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths." Why did you comment Skynx' case on rayn when geript asked for your opinion on his case ?
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On July 14 2017 06:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 05:17 rsoultin wrote: also just fyi no matter my alignment you boys really have to realize that the sexist shit is totally not okay. we're all here to have fun, not be belittled for our genitalia
not gonna call anyone out but there's a reason i remember these things months later and the list keeps growing bigger Classic woman. wtf. I would also be angry if I was in rsoul's position
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On July 14 2017 03:30 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:18 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 03:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote: rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Me and who else is town? Geript? Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has? Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me. When I have too many scumreads i tell myself "ok thats prolly not all right" and reconsider most of them. Believe or not this stuff helps later on, they all add to general value of how you consider other people are scumhunting. That helped for example we couldn't catch rayn last game cuz he didn't reveal anything and just barked Rels is scum all game long. Sure, but 3 scum reads is within the realm of actual mafia in the game, so it's not too many. And he is re-evaluating. Just earlier he was deadest on me being mafia. Now he is die hard wanting to lynch VA. I would say he is evolving his reads. Thats pretty much the point of me asking. I didn't really notice him dropping read on you. I don't see how you could compare this Rayn with the Rayn last game. It's a night and day difference. I resllly like the analysis post you made, and you brought up a lot of good points. But this Rayn is 10x more town than the dude from last game. He's absolutely not a D1 lynch anyway. Some traits I would use to define his towniness: Aggressive, critical, pushy, emotional, evolving, stubbornness to a degree. Unapologetic. I don't see the nitpicky pushing that I saw last game on rels, and he doesn't follow thread sentiment, he stakes his own course. If this is not town Rayn then he has really leveled up his game. So you "reallly like the analysis post Skynx made, and Skynx brought up a lot of good points."
On July 14 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote: TW is right, I also like your tone skynx.
You have an analytical, critical yet patient and non-derogatory demeanor about you.
I enjoy reading your posts and talking to you. Skynx is analytic.
On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. But later Skynx is so bad it makes him town ?? That doesn't match. Then you change your mind to say it actually probably makes him scum, voting him.
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On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote: [quote]
meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote: Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline.
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But even then I think it is a good point. EC did seem like he was counting VA out already.
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HF / Koshi / EC that makes sense.
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SL IDK at all. ruxxar's rest of filter was super natural, I thought I had something with the way he was treating EC weirdly then all of sudden he townreads him. I think he even lock townread him. I was thinking I had something linkling ruxxar and EC together but the lock townread doesn't make sense in that case. I think he's town
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On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote: Why do I claim cop here rels? lol why should I know that. I'm actually pretty curious
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On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote: Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.
You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary.
On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote: - rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him.
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On July 17 2017 00:45 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 00:24 Rels wrote: But even then I think it is a good point. EC did seem like he was counting VA out already. What do you mean? you didn't seem convinced about your VA vote.
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On July 17 2017 00:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 00:49 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote: Why do I claim cop here rels? lol why should I know that. I'm actually pretty curious you say I'm mafia 100% guaranteed and vote me so why am I mafia? because you're saying you have a red check on me
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On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote: Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.
You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary. On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote: - rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him. So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out? I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ?
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On July 17 2017 00:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 00:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 00:38 geript wrote:On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote: Why do I claim cop here rels? Clearly because you're scum with me and Damdred and needed to make sure that the sheep wouldn't lynch us. Thank god for that "red check" of yours or we'd totally lose this game. This legit terrifies me Then you're being stupid. Like, I don't actually think I'd auto-lynch HF even if Rels wasn't scum/miller. If you don't auto-lynch HF after I flip you're the one being stupid
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On July 17 2017 00:59 Koshi wrote: Hi everybody. Missed me? yeah p:
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On July 17 2017 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote: Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.
You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary. On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote: - rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him. So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out? I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ? So you're town who just decides people are scum without reading their filter at all. Well nice asset here. ? I've read your filter. If I'm scum there is 0 way I'm not dead before you; the only lynch I can get is HF in that scenario. Why would I invent stuff to push you ? Nice degrading comment about me => usually comes from scum pushing town.
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On July 17 2017 01:04 Koshi wrote:lol lame lol stfu
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On July 17 2017 01:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:51 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 00:49 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote: Why do I claim cop here rels? lol why should I know that. I'm actually pretty curious you say I'm mafia 100% guaranteed and vote me so why am I mafia? because you're saying you have a red check on me and that's your sole reason for scum reading me? that I have a red check day 2? You don't have a reason at all that I would have a red check on you if I was mafia? What's my motive? yep
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HF let me do one last post to you. I don't care if you are town. Faking a red check gets you lynched. No exception. It happened the last game you did it on, it will happen this game too.
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On July 17 2017 01:15 Holyflare wrote: I'm not fucking faking a red check I told you I would never do that again. you are. The only other explanation is that there is a framer (unlikely with one shot cop + miller) AND they targeted me. Very very VERY unlikely
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but I can't convince yourself you're scum. So I'll ignore you
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On July 17 2017 01:15 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 01:03 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote: Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.
You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary. On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote: - rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him. So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out? I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ? So you're town who just decides people are scum without reading their filter at all. Well nice asset here. ? I've read your filter. If I'm scum there is 0 way I'm not dead before you; the only lynch I can get is HF in that scenario. Why would I invent stuff to push you ? Nice degrading comment about me => usually comes from scum pushing town. I'm legit frustrated because your reasons for thinking I'm scum are bs. But that's probably because you're scum so I should chill Cooling off: what do you mean by inventing stuff to push me? You shouldn't need to invent anything. Paraphrasing that you're saying I'm pushing you without reading your filter.
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On July 17 2017 01:18 Koshi wrote: I still think rsoultin is mafia. For the emotional post ? I have the absolute opposite conclusion
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On July 17 2017 01:22 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:18 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 01:03 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote: Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.
You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary. On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote: - rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him. So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out? I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ? So you're town who just decides people are scum without reading their filter at all. Well nice asset here. ? I've read your filter. If I'm scum there is 0 way I'm not dead before you; the only lynch I can get is HF in that scenario. Why would I invent stuff to push you ? Nice degrading comment about me => usually comes from scum pushing town. I'm legit frustrated because your reasons for thinking I'm scum are bs. But that's probably because you're scum so I should chill Cooling off: what do you mean by inventing stuff to push me? You shouldn't need to invent anything. Paraphrasing that you're saying I'm pushing you without reading your filter. So you legitimately believe that I tmi'd va and that's why I voted him. That's the only reason I'm scum. that's the absolute opposite. No OK I see what you mean. Yeah, kinda. Keeping that list of people you wanted to lynch, then replacing Damdred / geript by me when they claimed; but you scumread me for a reason that was already in the thread at the time of your "people to look out for" list, but I wasn't in that list.
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On July 17 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote: Ok, whatever, I'm rescinding my claim. I don't want to waste any more time doing it and I want to further the discussion today so we can actually lynch ruxxar or koshi.
Everything ruxxar has done this game is absolutely FULL of TMI. Not only with VA but with this claim too. I think rels could maybe actually be town purely for his appeal to me about fake claiming on this page and it's stupid but I'm gonna roll with it.
I can't be bothered to work out how many mislynches there are till end game if rels flipped town but if it's one all of ruxxar's posts outline setting me up for the mislynch the next day when it's an obvious unspoken thing. ...
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On July 17 2017 01:25 Holyflare wrote: I absolutely despise koshi this game. There is 0% chance he goes from narcissistic ego maniac into 0 proper reads and afking for the whole game with 1 read on VA.
Then his rsoultin read is the most arse backwards thing I could ever see from him. The guy that town reads people on tone all day and he doesn't town read rsoultin/vivax for that post is not a koshi I know. this is 100% true
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On July 17 2017 01:34 ruXxar wrote: Anybody not voting for HF goes on my scum list. déjà vue
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On July 17 2017 01:36 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:30 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 01:18 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 01:03 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote: [quote]
So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out? I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ? So you're town who just decides people are scum without reading their filter at all. Well nice asset here. ? I've read your filter. If I'm scum there is 0 way I'm not dead before you; the only lynch I can get is HF in that scenario. Why would I invent stuff to push you ? Nice degrading comment about me => usually comes from scum pushing town. I'm legit frustrated because your reasons for thinking I'm scum are bs. But that's probably because you're scum so I should chill Cooling off: what do you mean by inventing stuff to push me? You shouldn't need to invent anything. Paraphrasing that you're saying I'm pushing you without reading your filter. So you legitimately believe that I tmi'd va and that's why I voted him. That's the only reason I'm scum. that's the absolute opposite. No OK I see what you mean. Yeah, kinda. Keeping that list of people you wanted to lynch, then replacing Damdred / geript by me when they claimed; but you scumread me for a reason that was already in the thread at the time of your "people to look out for" list, but I wasn't in that list. I honestly don't 100% know what you mean with this, but I'm not really focused. Damdy was slipping cause first 24h he was good, then after that not so much. Geript I don't exactly recall why he was looking not too great at this point. I think it was literally impossible to think you were scum or anything day 1, but obvi you're still a lynch for not posting. no, if you found by catching up scummy, why wasn't I in that list ?
On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript And only got in to replace Damdred / geript / ruxxar ? My catching up was done
On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. My catching up was done before the first post. In fact I just checked, I only had 3 posts between those two lists.
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sicklucker: did you really believe the claim ?
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On July 17 2017 01:51 ruXxar wrote:Why?
On July 15 2017 05:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 04:54 Koshi wrote: Did some1 tell me why rsoultin isnt mafia? Koshi not being thread dictator is worrying
On July 16 2017 23:31 Rels wrote: I'm OK being traded for HF. But you all have to really commit to the HF lynch after I flip. Don't listen to anything he says, just vote him and discuss other stuff. The dude managed to not get lynched after he was red checked as scum. Now what's good is that I have absolutely no pressure. Let's see.
geript / Damdred claimed masons. They are very likely to be masons. Basically, you should lynch one in LYLO if they're still both alive. Until then they can be conf town.
rsoul emotional posts makes her town I think. I don't see her making these posts as scum.
Skynx is awesome. In particular his Koshi. I disagree with him but I see exactly where he's coming from. That's how I treated Palmar last game.
Koshi's pointless filter makes him scum. Even if he tryhards for one day later, the fact that it's not natural for him when it is usually natural for him is pretty damning.
These are my strong reads. HF / Koshi + 1 is pretty likely. Gonna read the rest of the filters to see where I stand about the other players.
On July 17 2017 01:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:25 Holyflare wrote: I absolutely despise koshi this game. There is 0% chance he goes from narcissistic ego maniac into 0 proper reads and afking for the whole game with 1 read on VA.
Then his rsoultin read is the most arse backwards thing I could ever see from him. The guy that town reads people on tone all day and he doesn't town read rsoultin/vivax for that post is not a koshi I know. this is 100% true
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On July 17 2017 01:55 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:49 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 01:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 01:43 Holyflare wrote: Yeh so let's lynch koshi then k? No. I've had enough of your scummy shenanigans. Either lynch me or NK me. I'm not changing my vote until you are dead. Cool just remain on the sidelines then my friend and watch the magic happen. Why were my shenanigans scummy? I just wanted rels under pressure to see what happened. Fwiw, I don't think I would've lynched you if you stuck with the claim. Idk, but I would've thought about it a bit more. this is a bad attitude as it allows scum to get away with fake claim in future games.
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On July 17 2017 01:58 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:55 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 01:35 Rels wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi Why? On July 15 2017 05:01 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 04:54 Koshi wrote: Did some1 tell me why rsoultin isnt mafia? Koshi not being thread dictator is worrying On July 16 2017 23:31 Rels wrote: I'm OK being traded for HF. But you all have to really commit to the HF lynch after I flip. Don't listen to anything he says, just vote him and discuss other stuff. The dude managed to not get lynched after he was red checked as scum. Now what's good is that I have absolutely no pressure. Let's see.
geript / Damdred claimed masons. They are very likely to be masons. Basically, you should lynch one in LYLO if they're still both alive. Until then they can be conf town.
rsoul emotional posts makes her town I think. I don't see her making these posts as scum.
Skynx is awesome. In particular his Koshi. I disagree with him but I see exactly where he's coming from. That's how I treated Palmar last game.
Koshi's pointless filter makes him scum. Even if he tryhards for one day later, the fact that it's not natural for him when it is usually natural for him is pretty damning.
These are my strong reads. HF / Koshi + 1 is pretty likely. Gonna read the rest of the filters to see where I stand about the other players. On July 17 2017 01:34 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:25 Holyflare wrote: I absolutely despise koshi this game. There is 0% chance he goes from narcissistic ego maniac into 0 proper reads and afking for the whole game with 1 read on VA.
Then his rsoultin read is the most arse backwards thing I could ever see from him. The guy that town reads people on tone all day and he doesn't town read rsoultin/vivax for that post is not a koshi I know. this is 100% true And you ignore HFs fake claim why? I can see him doing it as town. Actually I think he might be more likely be do it as town, maybe.
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On July 17 2017 02:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:55 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 01:35 Rels wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi Why? On July 15 2017 05:01 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 04:54 Koshi wrote: Did some1 tell me why rsoultin isnt mafia? Koshi not being thread dictator is worrying On July 16 2017 23:31 Rels wrote: I'm OK being traded for HF. But you all have to really commit to the HF lynch after I flip. Don't listen to anything he says, just vote him and discuss other stuff. The dude managed to not get lynched after he was red checked as scum. Now what's good is that I have absolutely no pressure. Let's see.
geript / Damdred claimed masons. They are very likely to be masons. Basically, you should lynch one in LYLO if they're still both alive. Until then they can be conf town.
rsoul emotional posts makes her town I think. I don't see her making these posts as scum.
Skynx is awesome. In particular his Koshi. I disagree with him but I see exactly where he's coming from. That's how I treated Palmar last game.
Koshi's pointless filter makes him scum. Even if he tryhards for one day later, the fact that it's not natural for him when it is usually natural for him is pretty damning.
These are my strong reads. HF / Koshi + 1 is pretty likely. Gonna read the rest of the filters to see where I stand about the other players. On July 17 2017 01:34 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:25 Holyflare wrote: I absolutely despise koshi this game. There is 0% chance he goes from narcissistic ego maniac into 0 proper reads and afking for the whole game with 1 read on VA.
Then his rsoultin read is the most arse backwards thing I could ever see from him. The guy that town reads people on tone all day and he doesn't town read rsoultin/vivax for that post is not a koshi I know. this is 100% true Not posting at all is more likely town!Koshi than mafia!Koshi btw. Go look at my meta. The 4 games I was mafia in a row and the last one. I always posted constantly. Just less. So if meta falls away. What do you have left to call me mafia? You didn't not post at all, you made a few posts that lacked decisiveness and excuses
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On July 17 2017 02:20 Koshi wrote:This is a bad post because he doesn't scumread Skynx. See↓ + Show Spoiler +On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote: This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote: lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited ↑More likely mafia!TW making up a story then town!TW actually believing that. Easy vote. Random question "looking dumb.". If anybody is interested. I think in Ver his guide it stands that if you open with this post you are more likely mafia. Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 12:50 Tumblewood wrote: ##vote rels yada yada
a question: are masons ever opposite alignment? cause it seems like they wouldn't necessarily have to be both town or both mafia One mafia down. ##Vote TWGoing to read Skynx next but he is more likely town now. he goes on after the post you quoted to say Skynx wasn't his preferred lynch though
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier
On July 15 2017 06:17 Tumblewood wrote: not that skynx was exactly my ideal counterwagon
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On July 17 2017 02:22 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:43 Rels wrote: sicklucker: did you really believe the claim ? .... so ?
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On July 17 2017 02:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 02:34 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 02:07 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 01:55 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 01:35 Rels wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi Why? On July 15 2017 05:01 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 04:54 Koshi wrote: Did some1 tell me why rsoultin isnt mafia? Koshi not being thread dictator is worrying On July 16 2017 23:31 Rels wrote: I'm OK being traded for HF. But you all have to really commit to the HF lynch after I flip. Don't listen to anything he says, just vote him and discuss other stuff. The dude managed to not get lynched after he was red checked as scum. Now what's good is that I have absolutely no pressure. Let's see.
geript / Damdred claimed masons. They are very likely to be masons. Basically, you should lynch one in LYLO if they're still both alive. Until then they can be conf town.
rsoul emotional posts makes her town I think. I don't see her making these posts as scum.
Skynx is awesome. In particular his Koshi. I disagree with him but I see exactly where he's coming from. That's how I treated Palmar last game.
Koshi's pointless filter makes him scum. Even if he tryhards for one day later, the fact that it's not natural for him when it is usually natural for him is pretty damning.
These are my strong reads. HF / Koshi + 1 is pretty likely. Gonna read the rest of the filters to see where I stand about the other players. On July 17 2017 01:34 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 01:25 Holyflare wrote: I absolutely despise koshi this game. There is 0% chance he goes from narcissistic ego maniac into 0 proper reads and afking for the whole game with 1 read on VA.
Then his rsoultin read is the most arse backwards thing I could ever see from him. The guy that town reads people on tone all day and he doesn't town read rsoultin/vivax for that post is not a koshi I know. this is 100% true Not posting at all is more likely town!Koshi than mafia!Koshi btw. Go look at my meta. The 4 games I was mafia in a row and the last one. I always posted constantly. Just less. So if meta falls away. What do you have left to call me mafia? You didn't not post at all, you made a few posts that lacked decisiveness and excuses Quote pls? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/524561-generic-mini-mafia-iii?user=Koshi&view=all
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On July 17 2017 02:37 Koshi wrote: Would be a pretty great play if Rels and HF are mafia together. HF using his towncred to create and abolish a wagon on Rels. Rels doing nothing but pushing the ml of the day. Good stuff.
Rels I ask you as well. Why is TW not mafia? maybe he is. I don't have anything that makes him not mafia.
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On July 17 2017 02:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 02:37 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 02:20 Koshi wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier This is a bad post because he doesn't scumread Skynx. See↓ + Show Spoiler +On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote: This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote: lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited ↑More likely mafia!TW making up a story then town!TW actually believing that. Easy vote. Random question "looking dumb.". If anybody is interested. I think in Ver his guide it stands that if you open with this post you are more likely mafia. On July 16 2017 12:50 Tumblewood wrote: ##vote rels yada yada
a question: are masons ever opposite alignment? cause it seems like they wouldn't necessarily have to be both town or both mafia One mafia down. ##Vote TWGoing to read Skynx next but he is more likely town now. he goes on after the post you quoted to say Skynx wasn't his preferred lynch though On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier On July 15 2017 06:17 Tumblewood wrote: not that skynx was exactly my ideal counterwagon Yes. And? That doesn't change the fact he in his head should have had a reason to say "I wish I was here earlier". That can only appear if he thinks the other wagon is scum. Which he didn't. So again it is more likely mafia!TW bullshitting a reason than town!TW legit having that pop in his head. Just like VA being excited and therefore town. he could prefer lynching Skynx over VA. Given his weird post on VA it makes sense that he would have preferred to lynch someone else than VA.
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like, I agree his post on VA seems forced. That might be scum indicative. But once you take into account that he townread VA pretty hard, it's normal that he would have preferred to lynch the counter wagon to VA
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On July 17 2017 02:45 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 02:38 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 02:22 sicklucker wrote:On July 17 2017 01:43 Rels wrote: sicklucker: did you really believe the claim ? .... so ? clearly how is that even a qeustion you call tell because it finishes with a question mark
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On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote: rels just got off red check and left didn't he? no still around. Playing at the same time though
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On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote: rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist lol
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On July 17 2017 03:47 Koshi wrote: TW/Rels/EC/sicklucker
Pretty happy with it. TBH without myself it looks good. You're beginning to look like town
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On July 17 2017 03:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:49 geript wrote:On July 17 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote: rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist playing battlerite innit So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so. because like I said before he did this last game as town too I've given up on geript. If he didn't townread me in my towniest game ever he's not gonna townread me right now
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On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote: [quote]
I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote: Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure.
On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this.
On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript
On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon
On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum?
On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.
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On July 17 2017 06:10 Koshi wrote:Feels like a wasted vote. We got 24 more hours and this is the lynch I prefer
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On July 17 2017 06:14 Holyflare wrote: Rels if you are green why are you not 100x over lynching ruxxar? the way he thinks about the game makes me think of last game. Last game he had this idea of scum being in annul => he based all his game view on that. This game he sees you fakeclaiming a check => he's basing his game view on that. He watns to lynch you, and he doesn't understand why you're not voted.
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On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote: [quote]
Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol.
Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend".
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alright bed time, see you tomorrow (=
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On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote: Ah dammit EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend". I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort. I think he thought VA was gonna be lynched regardless and he was preparing the next day, robotically. He don't think he would resist switching to you if the town leaders told him to.
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On July 17 2017 14:10 geript wrote:Who ever mafia is, I'm pretty sure they're all bussing each other right now. It feels like most people are having reasonably close lynch lists. I actually don't hate Rels post on EC. I went and looked at his recent games (resistance [scum], 72hr and another mini). In all his games he quotes a decent amount. But in his town games, things seem to stick out to him a bit more and he seems a bit more idk paranoid. Like he'll flag posts and shit. Length wise, there doesn't seem to be a major difference between alignments that I noticed (either in post length or volume). Tone wise; he seems a bit more self-assured as mafia. It's not a read I'm wholly confident in, but it actually feels like a good place to bury a vote. His response to the claim was pretty fucking off too. Like everyone seems to take a side on it and he doesn't even seem to notice it. Like it's something irrelevant which (as far as masons go) I think is more consistent with being mafia. The big thing though is that he doesn't really seem to have any "eh that seems sketchy" type posts; there's nothing that catches his eye. Rather there's only things he seems to comment on this game. That's the big carry away for me. SL seems boring. I don't hate killing him either. I can't find a single post of his that gets me hard. Which in looking at Rels filter; Rels at least as a few that make me stop and think. Right now I'm going to ignore Skynx; partly because I think I want him to be scum and am not sure I can be reasonably unbiased. Also in part because I think EC is a decent shot for scum and EC didn't hate a Skynx lynch but ended up on the VA wagon. EC always seems to want to throw scum on Skynx, but always seems to find a way to push someone else to the top for relatively weak reasons. Especially + Show Spoiler [This Post] +On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. where he finds a way to find him kinda town and kinda scum. It's just hard to evaluate Skynx fairly for me right now; but I still kinda think he scum. I'll look at Koshi and TW in the morning. I don't understand the bolded ?
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On July 17 2017 19:21 Holyflare wrote: Rels what is your scum list? emperor TW Then I dont really know for the third. SL would be the one I lynch if I had to chose right now.
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On July 17 2017 20:46 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote: Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.
Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice... Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play. Meh I don't really want to lynch tumble right now, but I'm ears on rels. lol. I don't even know why you scumread me. And you're quoting a post where Koshi says I could be YOUR partner ...
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On July 17 2017 21:01 emperorchampion wrote:Forgot I had this open in another tab: Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 17:08 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote: [quote]
Why rels?
Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote: Ah dammit EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend". I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort. I think he thought VA was gonna be lynched regardless and he was preparing the next day, robotically. He don't think he would resist switching to you if the town leaders told him to. My favourite post of this game so far So melodramatic hahaha lol the truth is sometimes beautiful
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On July 18 2017 02:29 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 02:21 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote: Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it Explain this please Wow I'm amazed actually it took so long for someone to bring this up. I'm on mobile so it's a bitch to bring up, this happens somewhere around page 2-3 of your filter. Basically the posts where you point out rsouls interpretation of some post I had made calling out damdy for defending someone based on one post. I made this at like 6am and confused geript with rsoul in my head. Hence the follow up post of whoops he actually thinks rsoul is scum. She actually interpreted correctly what I had written on paper, although not what I meant. For you to interpret what I tried to say, and defend me on this basically was something that I could not really see scum doing. don't know if I'm just tunneled or not. But this seems so scummy. Say "I won't say my read" => wait for someone to ask about the read => say the read ... It seems to me like you said the first thing on purpose to create a fake interactions.
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especially since it's not a throwaway read, but in your opinion the best read of the game if it's true
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On July 18 2017 02:31 emperorchampion wrote: If your town this is maybe the best read of the game so I'm happy to share, if you're scum well played
On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote: No you were not: Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it
Explain this please [/QUOTE]
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On July 18 2017 02:31 emperorchampion wrote: If your town this is maybe the best read of the game so I'm happy to share, if you're scum well played No you were not:
On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote: Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it
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fuck I edited by mistake instead of reposting. Promise I didn't change the meaning
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On July 18 2017 02:52 emperorchampion wrote: Also I think the context of this was like maybe 24 hrs into the game so ? At the time you had this read you didn't share it with the thread. Now you're saying this read is the greatest and you'r ehappy to share it. The fact that your opinion of your read changed over time actually makes it more likely that's it's fabricated than the opposite
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On July 18 2017 03:04 emperorchampion wrote: I don't really understand what you're trying to get out of this. I'm reading the posts you're making and thinking about if they make you town or scum. You know, playing the game
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On July 18 2017 03:06 emperorchampion wrote: Cool let me know the result well it's in the thread ...
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On July 18 2017 03:11 emperorchampion wrote: Rels what set off your tunnel on me? nothing. I'm keeping the possibility that you could be town in mind but so far you're the most likely scum flip
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On July 18 2017 03:20 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 03:15 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 03:11 emperorchampion wrote: Rels what set off your tunnel on me? nothing. I'm keeping the possibility that you could be town in mind but so far you're the most likely scum flip You said you were tunneled like less than a page agow no I said I didn't know if I found this scummy because I was tunneled or not. It actually points out to me being tunneled and fearing it impacts my judgement. So you get it backward. Then you posted about being happy to share the read and that made MY read more concrete
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On July 18 2017 03:28 emperorchampion wrote: So what are your reasons for scum reading me? - your read on VA D1. It's not logical that you still voted him over Skynx at EOD1. Just because he "didn't defend". As if only scum didn't defend themselves. - you didn't like my EOD1. But when you had a list of people you scumread EOD1 I wasn't in it. But in the next list I appear in it, for reasons that were already in the thread for the first list. It makes no sense. - this whole HF read just now.
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why are you scumreading me ? Why are you scumreading Koshi ?
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On July 17 2017 20:46 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote: Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.
Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice... Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play. Meh I don't really want to lynch tumble right now, but I'm ears on rels. oh and this too. Koshi, your vote, says I could be scum with you. And you reply that you're also scumreading me. Something is wrong there. Like, it looks like you're trying to keep your options open between us two. Actually this is exactly it:
On July 18 2017 01:09 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels? Another misrepresenting question I wont answer. But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels? On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote: So in summary of the night and game so far:
- hf is lock town for me - skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1. - ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game. - koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate. - tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read - rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night - sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him. - damdy and geript don't have much to say here - rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read - vivax is likely town On July 16 2017 06:06 emperorchampion wrote: lol rels is red for reals? On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels? This brings the questions: Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter? Why do you not want to vote with me on TW? I need to stop being lazy and really look between you and rels. So if you're willing to help I'll take it. Right now I am pretty 50/50 between you and rels. Ruxxar is a bit behind that, and tumble out in fourth. Probably because you were both so behind on the game before you started playing, but at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you. I'll put in some time now to try and sort things out
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like, unlike yesterday, me and Koshi are among the top posters today. At least by number of posts, which is objective. But you're not re evaluating
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"at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you." ...
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On July 18 2017 04:01 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 03:36 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 03:28 emperorchampion wrote: So what are your reasons for scum reading me? - your read on VA D1. It's not logical that you still voted him over Skynx at EOD1. Just because he "didn't defend". As if only scum didn't defend themselves. - you didn't like my EOD1. But when you had a list of people you scumread EOD1 I wasn't in it. But in the next list I appear in it, for reasons that were already in the thread for the first list. It makes no sense. - this whole HF read just now. 1 I've addressed far too often this game. I thought your catching up was super meh because to me it just looked like you went through top town filter and sheeped his top read with no reason. The explanation you gave later I guess makes sense so it's ok for me at the moment. For those two lists I just checked, they are pretty far apart on my filter. Plus before the first one I had you in my Poe list since you literally posted nothing. Like you don't believe that someone who hasn't posted can be scummy? Explain how my hf read is scummy did this in multiple posts very recently. Can you answer me ? Why are Koshi / me scum ?
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On July 18 2017 04:21 sicklucker wrote: rels why were you asking me stupid questions like did I really believe hf's claim what were you trying to get out of it I wanted to know if you believed the claim or not. Still want to know btw. I have this view about how you play and I want to match it with your posts
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On July 18 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote: Rels. Drop ec for now. Who is next lynch for you and why? I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum.
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On July 18 2017 04:47 sicklucker wrote: I just dont think koshi fought hard enough to be town here. thats all im saying this is the only thing that makes me think he could be scum. Dunno why he is not all over the thread
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On July 18 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote: because he's mafia jesus christ it's not that hard
his only read is basically afk tumblewood and absolutely nothing else of substance at all Disagree. I agree with him on TW. I got angry when he was talking to you and it seemed real. And I liked his post on votes - seems like he was thinking about the game as a whole.
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On July 18 2017 05:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 04:54 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote: because he's mafia jesus christ it's not that hard
his only read is basically afk tumblewood and absolutely nothing else of substance at all Disagree. I agree with him on TW. I got angry when he was talking to you and it seemed real. And I liked his post on votes - seems like he was thinking about the game as a whole. all trash non game content posts?????????????? his tw read is entirely meta his read on you and skynx is wildly inconsistent and doesn't match up at all his post on votes is nonsense and not related to anybody's content the entire game, where was he pushing ANY of these people that he was complaining about? did he once call someone mafia from any of those votes? no, he was angry that people were not doing meaningful stuff in his POV. I can relate
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On July 18 2017 05:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote: Kochi and tw give me your opinions on
Rels Rux And ec
Just humor me. Maybe two sentences Rels: If he stick to the EC read and doesn't magically vote me EoD, I think he is going to be town. I hate this sentence.
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both EC and TW are good lynches.
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lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign
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On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote: lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign like, means he was probably monitering the thread. Percentage of chance is higher than just coincidence
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On July 18 2017 05:50 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote: lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign i was here with less than an hour to deadline and the thread was quiet, so i did some irl stuff and came back. you could say the same thing about koshi. he was gone for hours before returning after becoming the main wagon yep as I said could be a coincidence. That would be unfortunate for you
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On July 18 2017 05:54 geript wrote: More shenannies? dunno, Tumble was seemingly AFK, and he pops up just as he's being pushed. Contrary to SL for example
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On July 18 2017 05:55 Tumblewood wrote: i seriously don't know what you want me to do. you just lynch me every fucking game for stupid shit feels townie though
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On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator
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On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all? and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon
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On July 18 2017 06:19 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all? and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon the point is, your argument requires a major leap of faith when a simple explanation where i am town exists no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon.
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On July 18 2017 09:40 sicklucker wrote: altho rels with the fishy tmi I swear everygame I'm gonna be scumread 'cause my reads are too good
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On July 18 2017 17:33 Holyflare wrote: Rels town reads ruxxar, scum reads ec and tw. Around at deadline and does nothing to save ruxxar or hammer tw. (saw him on battlerite at deadline time too) :p
100% wrong. I voted him last second exactly for that reason. Don't know why but my vote was done at 23:00 instead of 22:59. Turns out my vote didnt matter. But I hammered to lynch tw
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On July 18 2017 17:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator Rels was also completely shitting all over tw at deadline AND STILL DIDN'T VOTE HIM. dunno why you're pushing this when ITS IN THE VOTING THREAD THAT I TRIED TO VOTE HIM
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On July 18 2017 17:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 04:45 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote: Rels. Drop ec for now. Who is next lynch for you and why? I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum. Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 05:49 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote: lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign like, means he was probably monitering the thread. Percentage of chance is higher than just coincidence Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all? and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:23 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:19 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all? and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon the point is, your argument requires a major leap of faith when a simple explanation where i am town exists no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon. Even says he would lynch tw over Koshi because he thinks koshi is town which implies he votes to save town reads. So WHERE was he when ruxxar, the guy he was hard defending all day, was up for lynch??? Burying tw without actually voting him and afking on ec, that's where. ok no way this is town. Quoted every post instead of the relevant one
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On July 19 2017 05:49 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 17:33 Holyflare wrote: Rels town reads ruxxar, scum reads ec and tw. Around at deadline and does nothing to save ruxxar or hammer tw. (saw him on battlerite at deadline time too) :p
100% wrong. I voted him last second exactly for that reason. Don't know why but my vote was done at 23:00 instead of 22:59. Turns out my vote didnt matter. But I hammered to lynch tw Why did you wait till the last minute? To see what was happening before voting. Trying to lure out scum if TW is indeed scum.
On July 19 2017 05:49 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2017 05:47 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 17:39 Holyflare wrote:On July 18 2017 04:45 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote: Rels. Drop ec for now. Who is next lynch for you and why? I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum. On July 18 2017 05:49 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote: lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign like, means he was probably monitering the thread. Percentage of chance is higher than just coincidence On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all? and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon On July 18 2017 06:23 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:19 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all? and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon the point is, your argument requires a major leap of faith when a simple explanation where i am town exists no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon. Even says he would lynch tw over Koshi because he thinks koshi is town which implies he votes to save town reads. So WHERE was he when ruxxar, the guy he was hard defending all day, was up for lynch??? Burying tw without actually voting him and afking on ec, that's where. ok no way this is town. Quoted every post instead of the relevant one Which post is that? The post where I tried to vote.
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On July 18 2017 20:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 20:36 Koshi wrote: Because you are overdramatizing details and attacking everything you can attack. Rels tried to vote TW but failed at deadline. The point you make is good in itself and I want to hear an answer. But I am not going to create another 7 pages on how it makes Rels 100% mafia. It's not like he didn't sit on a wagon he didn't think was mafia. And he was attacking TW during the entire EoD. Sat on a wagon that was never going to be lynched for reasons that were bad and never voted a person that actually was a wagon that he even scum read that he was attacking for at least 15 minutes for bull shit reasons and then decides to maybe vote him at deadline just a little too late. Yeh that's believable town play. YES it is believable town play and YES you're scum for having BS reads. You don'tr make sense
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On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm. TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him. His read came down to this: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reasonand since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated. Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow. Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time. I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet. - wants to lynch 4 players - dedicates most of big post to talk about a player he doesn't want to lynch ??
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On July 19 2017 05:55 emperorchampion wrote: Rels, did you glean anything from pre flip about tumbles alignment? no. Yes. Maybe. Who cares. I'll talk about it if I feel it's relevant. WTF are these questions you're asking all the time. I'm pretty sure 90% of your filter is questions like that
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On July 19 2017 05:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2017 05:45 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 17:35 Holyflare wrote:On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator Rels was also completely shitting all over tw at deadline AND STILL DIDN'T VOTE HIM. dunno why you're pushing this when ITS IN THE VOTING THREAD THAT I TRIED TO VOTE HIM i only count relevant votes in vote counts since you're accusing of not doing something I DID you're doing it wrong
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will see what I prefer tomorrow
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On July 19 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote: rels seems pretty fake mad in his posts, and his swap onto tumble is bs since the vote was inconsequential lol iof you're going this way, me switcing on tw was inconsequential EVEN IF I DID IT
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On July 19 2017 06:14 emperorchampion wrote: Like it was already 5 on ruxxar, why the hell would you switch last minute. Also, you said you did it to bait out reaction/ info and you got nothing? Maybe dude forgot his own posts lol why are you talking to me, then talking to someone else in that last sentence ... ? I switched 'cause I wanted to lynch TW over ruxxar. I thought you were saying I was scummy 'cause I didn't vote TW over ruxxar ? Now I'm scummy 'cause I made a switch that couldn't achieve anything ?
On July 19 2017 06:14 emperorchampion wrote: Why are you so mad dude? 'cause you don't make sense.
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On July 19 2017 06:20 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2017 06:18 Rels wrote:On July 19 2017 06:14 emperorchampion wrote: Like it was already 5 on ruxxar, why the hell would you switch last minute. Also, you said you did it to bait out reaction/ info and you got nothing? Maybe dude forgot his own posts lol why are you talking to me, then talking to someone else in that last sentence ... ? I switched 'cause I wanted to lynch TW over ruxxar. I thought you were saying I was scummy 'cause I didn't vote TW over ruxxar ? Now I'm scummy 'cause I made a switch that couldn't achieve anything ? On July 19 2017 06:14 emperorchampion wrote: Why are you so mad dude? 'cause you don't make sense. No I'm saying that your switch timing is bs because it couldn't achieve anything. But if you had done so earlier it might would have been much more effective. No way you can use your switch to defend yourself YOu're the one with HF saying it doesnt make sense that I didnt vote TW over ruxxar WHEN I TRIED TO DO IT
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I think I already answered that I think you're playing dumb and are scum 'cause the facts are all already stated
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maybe you're just dumb 'cause you seem particulary insistant on questionning me HF should know better though
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I changed my mind. Koshi is scum. Dude usually has so much presence he gets NK N1 almost always. D1 maybe he couldn't play, but his play D2 and now is far from that.
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I also agree Vivax is 99% scum. The post you quoted HF is so bad. So bad. 2/3
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EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours.
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TLDR ##Vote Vivax Play or die
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well seems like the game is becoming easy SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me.
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Like, Koshi this game when pushed by HF has the underhand. He's hurt by the pressure and tries to make the push lose credibility, sometimes by saying HF is mafia siding, sometimes by saying HF is scum. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 04:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:21 Holyflare wrote: why has your playstyle miraculously deviated from your plan koshi? This is a pretty horrible post btw. Trying to incriminate me for posting and playing. While the not playing and posting is the reason you scumread me. On July 17 2017 07:58 Koshi wrote: Anyway. gj HF pushing the idea I am mafia with TW. Probably not mafia, but always mafia siding. On July 17 2017 17:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 16:03 Holyflare wrote: And you say I'm mafia siding because you can't call me mafia :D :D Nha I am saying you are mafia siding because you are probably not mafia. Just bad. On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote: You are probably really just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.
It's a good plan. Kuddos.
Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5. On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote: Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote: I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. On July 17 2017 19:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote: Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote: I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read. And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly. If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote. If only... Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels. Once more I don't understand your point here. I'll categorize it under: "Shitty attempts trying to discredit Koshi"
Koshi last game when pushed by HF has the upperhand. He isn't hurt by the pressure and uses HF posts to gauge his alignment. + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 19:13 Koshi wrote: Now I am in this limbo in which I don't know if HF is trolling or mafia or bad. Palmar probably trolling. On June 14 2017 19:14 Koshi wrote: But it is pretty mafia that HF is so convinced I am 3p though. He kinda disregarded the fact I could be mafia playing 3P a bit too easily imo.
We need to remember this fine piece of reasoning. On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote: Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. On June 14 2017 20:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 20:24 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 20:17 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote: But I am town though. I'm gonna destroy all anti-towns. Why am I anti-town? Started all depressing. My push made you realise you didn't start with your town meta. Got cased super hard by yourself and me about not following meta. You've done nothing to push game forward. Absolutely no 투혼. 3P/mafia koshi. I was tired yesterday. I actually completely forgot the game. Yes. Nha, I am explaining it to people. See how they react. 2 people saw it but didn't write it down. Lies. Once again I am top tier pushing the game forward. Like kushmaster once said. The main reason people play mafia is to read about themselves. I am enjoying this and I have no problem with being lynched anymore. But it won't happen this game cuz I want to play. On June 14 2017 20:49 Koshi wrote: Either HF is town and bold because he thinks is right. or he is mafia and super amused that his bullshit is being gobbled up this easily.
I am going to run with option 1 because rayn hasn't done anything yet. And potential other mafia hasn't typed enough. On June 14 2017 21:24 Koshi wrote:I already answered that Palmar. If he is mafia: He saw I opened with something odd for myself. Called me out and went to bed knowing he could blow it up in the morning, securing fake activity. Saw rayn doing something odd so he also called that out. That's 2 townleaders he is not working with but against in the thread. If both are town he is putting the entire thread in disarray and making it horrible for those 2 and others to find mafia. And on top of that everybody is gobbling up this Koshi is 3p story so it is working absolutely brilliantly. Nothing is being done. ggwp. Now... I think he is more likely town. And I am on the lookout for the mafias. On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote: Town TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious. Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it. Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had. Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town. Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia. Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.
Town with minus points. Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action. Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm
Null Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.
On June 14 2017 23:48 Koshi wrote: I also guess I should up HF a bit more.
It looks similar. But it's totally different. In the last game he's leading. If this game he's suffering.
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On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote: well seems like the game is becoming easy SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town
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On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote: EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours. Heh it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS. Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing. Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions.
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On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote: well seems like the game is becoming easy SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. mmmmmmm because I'm town maybe ?
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again, lots of question that doesn't do anything. It seems like you decided your game play as scum would be to ask a maximum of questions to appear active and shit the thread
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Isn't your other main scumread Koshi ?
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On July 20 2017 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:43 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote: EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours. Heh it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS. Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing. Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions. I recall these being separate occasions. Probably the last two nights. You trying to get a reaction out of tumble, getting one, the forgetting it is incredibly suspicious to me. It looks like you didn't care at all. Getting the reaction, then forgetting about it goes exactly against your reason for holding the vote. This is why I don't believe you on either point. Holding your vote from your team mate and then once the pressure is off is entirely what scum would do. nope that is not what scum would likely do. What scum would likely do is vote their teammate as soon as they think they cannot be saved. Because looking bad as scum is terrifying
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like, in no ways that proves I'm town. But in no ways it proves I'm scum neither
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On July 20 2017 02:54 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:53 Holyflare wrote:On July 20 2017 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:43 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote: EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours. Heh it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS. Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing. Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions. I recall these being separate occasions. Probably the last two nights. You trying to get a reaction out of tumble, getting one, the forgetting it is incredibly suspicious to me. It looks like you didn't care at all. Getting the reaction, then forgetting about it goes exactly against your reason for holding the vote. This is why I don't believe you on either point. Holding your vote from your team mate and then once the pressure is off is entirely what scum would do. What any self respecting scum player would do in this situation is jump onto the wagon for extra credit or divert the lynch as hard as they can rels did neither sl did it for him then by your logic you should be voting ...
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On July 20 2017 02:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:54 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:53 Holyflare wrote:On July 20 2017 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:43 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote: EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours. Heh it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS. Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing. Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions. I recall these being separate occasions. Probably the last two nights. You trying to get a reaction out of tumble, getting one, the forgetting it is incredibly suspicious to me. It looks like you didn't care at all. Getting the reaction, then forgetting about it goes exactly against your reason for holding the vote. This is why I don't believe you on either point. Holding your vote from your team mate and then once the pressure is off is entirely what scum would do. What any self respecting scum player would do in this situation is jump onto the wagon for extra credit or divert the lynch as hard as they can rels did neither sl did it for him then by your logic you should be voting ... like, this doesn't make sense. You are arguing that a scum player would distract the lynch from TW. You are arguing that I didn't have to do it because SL did it for me. But you're voting me over SL
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what happened to the open mind you wanted to keep ?
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and what happened to your Koshi read ?
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On July 15 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote: Something maybe kinda stupid that I was thinking about: how genuine is koshi's read of damdred based off of damdred 's read of geript. I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons.
Rayns seemed more genuine but idk
On July 15 2017 18:25 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote: Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.
Damdred is town.
People who pretend to have a lot of reads but are not sharing them with the thread: rsoultin
PS to rayn: he is talking about ruxxar Like this post is exactly wrong, maybe damdy can chime in more, but I assume there was some tmi in the read. Mafia motivation is to fit in, buddy rayn for same reads. Did Koshi really know that Damdred / geript were masons at the time he wrote that post ? If yes then it's really damning
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On July 20 2017 03:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote: Something maybe kinda stupid that I was thinking about: how genuine is koshi's read of damdred based off of damdred 's read of geript. I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons.
Rayns seemed more genuine but idk Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 18:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote: Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.
Damdred is town.
People who pretend to have a lot of reads but are not sharing them with the thread: rsoultin
PS to rayn: he is talking about ruxxar Like this post is exactly wrong, maybe damdy can chime in more, but I assume there was some tmi in the read. Mafia motivation is to fit in, buddy rayn for same reads. Did Koshi really know that Damdred / geript were masons at the time he wrote that post ? If yes then it's really damning But he didn't ? It's during the first 24 hours of the game. Why are you saying Koshi knew Damdred was mason ?
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On July 20 2017 03:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:12 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 03:09 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote: Something maybe kinda stupid that I was thinking about: how genuine is koshi's read of damdred based off of damdred 's read of geript. I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons.
Rayns seemed more genuine but idk On July 15 2017 18:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote: Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.
Damdred is town.
People who pretend to have a lot of reads but are not sharing them with the thread: rsoultin
PS to rayn: he is talking about ruxxar Like this post is exactly wrong, maybe damdy can chime in more, but I assume there was some tmi in the read. Mafia motivation is to fit in, buddy rayn for same reads. Did Koshi really know that Damdred / geript were masons at the time he wrote that post ? If yes then it's really damning But he didn't ? It's during the first 24 hours of the game. Why are you saying Koshi knew Damdred was mason ? he's saying that Koshi knows Damdred is town and has tmi so koshi made that read to fit that Then what does this sentence mean ? "I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons. "
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oh I get it now. He's saying Damdred's read on geript was bad, and Koshi thinking the read was good is scummy.
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weird thing to say. EC did you find Damdred's read of geript bad ? It's not BS just because it's fabricated. Actually it's not fabricated since he knows geript is town, he can find stuff that makes him town with less doubts. So what made you think Damdred's read was bad ?
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On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote: My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town? his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D: Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed. When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing. mafia doesn't work like that. Scum team is not likely to show face like that. It can happen. But more likely than not it doesn't. Andyou saying I have a poor filter when 90% of yours is targeted on questions that doesn't do anything + dumb reasons to scumread me is funny
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On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote: 2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that. You have to be kidding.
On July 20 2017 02:54 Rels wrote: like, in no ways that proves I'm town. But in no ways it proves I'm scum neither
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On July 20 2017 03:34 Vivax wrote: I don't feel that strongly about emc mafia after reading a bit of his filter. There was one thing I didn't like in particular but the bigger picture suggests town to me atm.
I think mafia can be anywhere in HF/Koshi/TW/Rels/Skynx atm. And I think Koshi is the best shot for today literally just for D1 with his minion stuff and followup lacking koshi passion even though in his later posts he starts putting in more effort.
I made a mistake replacing into the game cause I have things going on more important than mafia atm and I overestimated my will to catch up in the little time I'm not doing something else.
Why HF ? He wasn't in your last list post. Why is Tumble more likely to be scum than before ? He aasn't in your last list post.
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On July 20 2017 03:40 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:35 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote: 2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that. You have to be kidding. On July 20 2017 02:54 Rels wrote: like, in no ways that proves I'm town. But in no ways it proves I'm scum neither Last night you were defending your reasons for not voting sl by saying you voted him last minute. So a good thing in your mind. yes, I was defending against yours and HF idea that I DIDNT try to vote TW over ruxxar. I never argued out of the blue that it looked good
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On July 20 2017 04:05 emperorchampion wrote: I understand that association seems like a big part, but it's mostly corroborative. sl and tumble look super weak, and maybe to others rels doesn't look too bad. But from my perspective, I know his arguments are off, and he looks super scum to me. No it doesn't make sense. I'm not scum because I scumread Tumble but didn't vote him until the last second. It doesn't make anyone scum. I'm not scum because of some master plan wher the scum team show face all at the same time. It almost never happens. You say you're keeping an open mind. But I come and make good posts on Koshi and SL. Your top townread thinks you're scum because your reasons are so bad. But you're not changing. You're rigid. Probably 'cause you're scum.
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On July 20 2017 03:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:18 Rels wrote: weird thing to say. EC did you find Damdred's read of geript bad ? It's not BS just because it's fabricated. Actually it's not fabricated since he knows geript is town, he can find stuff that makes him town with less doubts. So what made you think Damdred's read was bad ? I remember it being weird to have such a strong read early in the game off so little. The read itself is totally inconsequential to my point on koshi. Yes it is totally consequential to your point on Koshi. It is BECAUSE you found Damdred's read weird that you found Koshi's weird scummy.
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On July 20 2017 04:45 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote: well seems like the game is becoming easy SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. Rels I still don't understand this point on sl
On July 20 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote: well seems like the game is becoming easy SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. mmmmmmm because I'm town maybe ?
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On July 20 2017 04:56 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 04:51 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 04:45 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote: well seems like the game is becoming easy SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. Rels I still don't understand this point on sl On July 20 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote: well seems like the game is becoming easy SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. mmmmmmm because I'm town maybe ? How does sl know it's a fake claim? Because he would know it's a red check on a townie.
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On July 20 2017 04:58 emperorchampion wrote: ok I get it know lol, but I don't think it's a great point you can not know if it's a great point unless you've played with SL and me enough or unless you do a meta analysis. Since I assume you did neither what you think doesn't matter
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it's like when you said I'm scummy because my VA read was just "sheep rayn". If you had played with rayn enough you would know he has (had =D) a perfect read on VA. So sheeping him is not something scummy
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half truth and narratives and rigid
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On July 20 2017 10:48 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 09:11 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin was town because she complained about sexism while still giving reads and then replaced out. Aka she felt harassed enough to make it a big thread thing and leave. Don't think she'd do that as mafia but there's always a new low to reach on this website. i don't think her leaving was at all related to her alignment, just based on frustration with thread behavior. as in nai and not a tactic disagree, ragequit is more likely to come from town than from scum. Not here it seems though
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Vivax / Koshi are very very likely. EC I'm having doubts. The way he's so stubborn makes me think of ruxxar last game. Dunno if he does that as scum. Gonna add that to the things I have to meta check
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On July 20 2017 16:56 emperorchampion wrote: I'm getting cold sweats, way too similar to the last game I payed with rels where he was scum lol not at all. I was town leader in that game. Actually it was a perfect example of a well done bus on TW that got me endless towncred. Totally different from this current game
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On July 20 2017 19:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2017 08:54 Tumblewood wrote: skynx, vivax, sl, and rels are all realistic 2nd/3rd scummers, in roughly that order. everyone else i am 90% sure i can write off. and if koshi is town i might as well give up Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote: well this is holyf***e mafia all over again. but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town. Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:38 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 20 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote: well this is holyf***e mafia all over again. but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town. what's this supposed to mean? in that game, vivax replaced in for superbia d3, made a couple WoT catching-up posts, and then hardly interacted with the game afterwards. a little more active than this game but not by much. Why are you voting off wagon with your scum read then? I think he was saying Vivax was town and lackluster in the Holyflare mafia ? Or did I read that wrong. Gonna check the game
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oh I remember now, I was wrong. Vivax was scum and made a big post that looked good than AFKed his way to the lynch.
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Vivax / Koshi / TW makes some sense. It's weird given how hard Koshi pushed TW. But it makes sense with the idea Koshi has stated several times: that my vote on EC makes sense if we're both scum, 'cause I'm being pushed so I don't have a strong pull + I'm bussing a teammate. Well, Koshi was being pushed when he voted TW, so maybe he applied his situation to me. Talking about:
On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote: Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. Replace "Rels" by "Koshi" and "EC" by "TW" and we might be in a situation where Koshi was projecting his own situation:
Koshi voting TW was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Koshi wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with TW most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect.
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It's also lines up with how Vivax talks 80% about TW in his first big post but doesn't really conclude anything:
On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm. TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him. His read came down to this: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reasonand since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated. Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow. Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time. I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet.
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On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote: koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame. otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind. maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator FTR I checked his last two scum games and he didn't do it (Presidential and 72 hours), he conceded in the first and was lynched in the second. He didn't do something similar in those games. On the contrary, I kinda think TW is town after reading these games. Maybe I was biaised because I knew before hand he was scum, but the feeling I got was that it was easy to see the agenda behind his posts. He was always talking to people and trying to sway the game in a direction. I don't have this feeling at all this game.
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On July 20 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote: What do you think about his recent mafia game? Presidental and previous game he just didnt really care about lynching mafia, he was just giving random thoughts all game.
Also we don't talk about 72h, that game never happened. there is a more recent game that isn't in the database ?
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oh yeah he was in the last game right. I don't remember him, gonna check
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way more random than his other scum games. By that I mean interact sometimes with the thread and randomly states some reads. No agenda, just lazily playing the game. I retract the townred I gave him above. I think his play last game and this game is quite similar.
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AND HE FUCKING TOLD US RAYN WAS SCUM
On June 23 2017 13:45 Tumblewood wrote: but one thing we can be 99.9999% sure about is either rayn or palmar is scum. because rayn and palmar are the only natural town leaders still alive and also very respected players, so in any case where scum is a bunch of non-leaders they are 99.9999% killing rayn or palmar If I had played better this game we would have won
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On July 20 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote: I like your effort Rels. that's definitely not mutual
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nothing in this case convinces me. SL can play lazily like that as town. Openly sheeping a read D1 for example is something he can do. In particular, I don't see why his ruxxar reads and vote makes him town. At one point of the case you accuse him of not pushing ruxxar, then when he does push ruxxar you say it's scummy. It's only a narrative and it's a far stretched one.
On the other hand I don't understand you regarding Vivax. The dude is KNOWN for AFKing as scum.He didn't even have a good real life excuse, he tried to play THEN crumbled under the work and gave his IRL excuse. He did literally the same thing in the Holyflare mafia, he replaced in and was inactive with a couple of big posts here and there. And his last post before he conceded was an excuse, like this game.
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On July 21 2017 00:31 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 21:10 Rels wrote: way more random than his other scum games. By that I mean interact sometimes with the thread and randomly states some reads. No agenda, just lazily playing the game. I retract the townred I gave him above. I think his play last game and this game is quite similar. how on earth does that resemble my play this game? how would you describe your play this game ?
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On July 21 2017 00:44 Skynx wrote: Cool, game is over. way to overreact when it's not LYLO AND we're lynching someone you don't townread
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On July 21 2017 00:46 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2017 00:42 Rels wrote:On July 21 2017 00:31 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2017 21:10 Rels wrote: way more random than his other scum games. By that I mean interact sometimes with the thread and randomly states some reads. No agenda, just lazily playing the game. I retract the townred I gave him above. I think his play last game and this game is quite similar. how on earth does that resemble my play this game? how would you describe your play this game ? active, engaged, thoughtful, good, etc i could maybe get what you're saying if you compared it to generic 1 or something, but in lxxv i was super lazy even for a scum. like, look at how many of those posts quote something versus this game I reread your filter this morning and I definitely didn't have this impression p:
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On July 21 2017 02:15 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2017 02:10 Holyflare wrote: Which leads me to another thing. Why is SL scum for pushing the wagon you yourself wanted to lynch? Doesn't really add up for me at all. He doesn't care Ruxxar was town, he knows it already cmon HF... yet he's probably the main reason ruxxar got lynched yesterday. The lynch that you wanted. Why does that make him scum ?
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On July 21 2017 02:40 Damdred wrote: I just got out of surgery, can anyone recap what has happened for me so I can just focus on the main wagons today? hope you're well! Just open Vivax' filter I promise it's not long.
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My case on Koshi is probably my favorite case I made. Concise, to the point and damning
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I love this show. I love this scene. I love the throwback to this scene they did in the last season
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On July 21 2017 05:42 Tumblewood wrote: anyone wanna shenanny koshi with me? tbf they're both 99% scum
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On July 21 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2017 05:41 sicklucker wrote:On July 21 2017 00:01 Skynx wrote:sicklucker should be the lynch today as his scumhunting this game is a total farce. On July 13 2017 21:17 sicklucker wrote: I voted ruxxar because he had the best chance to be scum and Im not sure if Ill have much time or when even the deadline is. I took your advice TAKE THE BANANA We should most of the time just straightup ignore his D1 but here he admits a sheepvote on Ruxxar without having much clue about anyone else. On July 14 2017 04:35 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 22:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 21:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:26 Koshi wrote: [quote] I don't know what ruxxar is doing this game. So basically I agree with the idea behind your case. He made a couple extremely dumb observations this game. I don't understand what he is doing as I don't see him solving the game while playing. Last game he scumread me while I had a 10 page filter and correctly read him while nobody else did, this game he very quickly townread both townleaders for scumhunting...
Filterlenght and sheer enthusiasm holds me back but he is on the watch list. Koshi, you are way too serious this game. You look nothing like your last game. Your tone is completely different. Very somber and low energy. protip: Different does not equal mafia. Why am I somber? 1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo" Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you. Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view. 2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game. Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone: On June 14 2017 16:52 Koshi wrote: Hmm I am going to call fefe and TW town.
TW for thinking fefe is hilariously suspicious and fefe for believing that.
2 townreads. 1 more than rayn.
ggwp. On June 14 2017 16:49 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 16:46 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote: [quote] This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/ See. Now you are mafia 81/100 times, 9/100 times mafia pretending to be town, 9/100 times town pretending to be mafia, and only 1% chance to be town being town. Can't disagree with math. Especially my math. Koshi had this planned before the game even started he talked about it in the obs qt and post game , last game.... Still mafia. man me and ruxxar came to every same conclusion last game right or wrong. Now everyone I think is mafia he thinks is town and vice versa. kill with fire Later on a reverse mind meld/meta comes along the ONLY real reason of why he's scumreading Ruxxar, some other stuff in same page but nothing that can be used as an argument. On July 16 2017 05:16 sicklucker wrote: noted that ec cant even remember his own reads. he calls me town at last deadline then less then 24 hours later im "forgotten" and scum Another lazy reason to scumread someone. He just looks tryhard with this, emp felt genuine at the time even tho i was scumreading him aswell. On July 18 2017 04:29 sicklucker wrote:On July 18 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote: I'm just tempted to sheep dead rayn onto emc along with geript for now since I still miss more than half of the game. Anyway, off to delve while I vote emc. was ryan that sure emc was mafia? Damn that would be 3 strong towns On July 18 2017 04:32 sicklucker wrote:On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, then EC is mafia. hum ryan was also pretty high on koshi being mafia and ruxxar being town Trying to solidify emperor being mafia with rayn sr on him which was based on wrong reasons: + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote: [quote]
I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play.
Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them.
Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game.
I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote: Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote: Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote: fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote: Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons Hf i think likely to be town If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels Skynx Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, then EC is mafia. Rayn thought that was right which I thought the same but those were post EoD, significantly harming the value of my case. I think sl says this before Rels points out my mistake but i cba looking, he's just trying too hard to create reasons here imo. On July 18 2017 04:47 sicklucker wrote: I just dont think koshi fought hard enough to be town here. thats all im saying Koshi main wagon. He has no opinion. On July 18 2017 04:19 sicklucker wrote: Ruxxars still my first choice his game is so different. wild yes rels but not the samr Him trying to support emperor scumread and soft sr on Koshi curiously comes after this. If Ruxxar his first choice, why try to create a wagon on someone else? When Koshi is main wagon why not try to propose a Ruxxar lynch? His vote is on Rels of all people at this point, after claim was rescinded. He has 1 main sr, two other sr's but votes no one. He just can't pick sides at this point. 22:20, there are 5 votes on emp. 5 fucking votes. He, as town, have options here. He can jump emperor train, why not he has reasons to support it right? He can propose a ruxxar lynch, its his main sr. 22:35 he votes Tumblewood... like wtf? On July 18 2017 05:29 sicklucker wrote: No I kind of like his tw push. its kind of townie hes going after him over ec this to support it... I don't even know who is he talking about here, "He" is Koshi? Koshi bussing TW makes more sense than bussing EC? Either way how does that make TW scum????? Like literally, nothing recent on Tumble AND he sheeps his sr onto him. He posts a list of townies, claiming everyone else lynchable, like very under the table, pushes a TW sr... On July 18 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote: LETS KILL RUXXARRRRR 0.o Then back on Ruxxar. Easiest mislynch ever. This is not a towny vote pattern guys. On July 18 2017 05:56 sicklucker wrote: tumble is reacting kind of good here. plz killz ruxxars with me On July 18 2017 07:00 sicklucker wrote:On July 18 2017 06:53 Holyflare wrote: the one where sl is up for voting koshi but then jumps to sheep to koshi's target but then as soon as that wagon looks like it's set he instant derails it to ruxxar? so as mafia why do I switch off tumble who I already switched to over ruxxar?I thought ruxxar was mafia all game man he was my number 1 target I said so earlier your overthinking this man. game throwflare. I would have voted ruxxar over anyone There we go instantly brings up the fact that Ruxxar was his n1 target. Bolded is a classic mafia agenda, just swaying from the fact that he has no basis at all voting for tumble to begin with. On July 18 2017 09:37 sicklucker wrote: i always wanted to lynch ruxxar... . It didnt become an option untill the very end and I was very happy to jump on it. Me townreading tumbleweed after had nothing to do with my vote change. your so dense I can go on with his bs on me but I'm gona cap it off with this. No options he says. What was his options? Emp wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either. Koshi wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either. In what case you do all this as town? He doesn't want to lynch his scumreads but doesn't case his main scumread either but defends himself like this was his plan all along. Just doesn't exist as town. Lynch please, I 110% guarantee you he will flip scum. your posts are so garbage you start by saying I sheeped ruxxar when I said he was most likely to be scum. I said maybe hes not the best lynch but I was very happy to lynch him. just like you just said I never wanted vivax lynch. No he was not my first choice he was just my second after you. Not going on right now I know your scum with vivax zZzzZ Just when i thought i was falling asleep, they pull me back in.
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On July 21 2017 18:39 Koshi wrote: Catch mafia. Get lenched. Play mafia meta. Get lynched.
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Koshi and one of Skynx / TW is also what I think is the answer
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good that it was easy too, I was drinking the whole weekend. Gonna put some work tomorrow before being probably shot. ATM Skynx is my guess for the last scum, we'll see if that changes after reread
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And this was a work of art.
On July 20 2017 02:32 Rels wrote:Like, Koshi this game when pushed by HF has the underhand. He's hurt by the pressure and tries to make the push lose credibility, sometimes by saying HF is mafia siding, sometimes by saying HF is scum. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 04:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:21 Holyflare wrote: why has your playstyle miraculously deviated from your plan koshi? This is a pretty horrible post btw. Trying to incriminate me for posting and playing. While the not playing and posting is the reason you scumread me. On July 17 2017 07:58 Koshi wrote: Anyway. gj HF pushing the idea I am mafia with TW. Probably not mafia, but always mafia siding. On July 17 2017 17:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 16:03 Holyflare wrote: And you say I'm mafia siding because you can't call me mafia :D :D Nha I am saying you are mafia siding because you are probably not mafia. Just bad. On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote: You are probably really just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.
It's a good plan. Kuddos.
Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5. On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote: Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote: I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. On July 17 2017 19:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote: Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote: I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read. And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly. If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote. If only... Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels. Once more I don't understand your point here. I'll categorize it under: "Shitty attempts trying to discredit Koshi" Koshi last game when pushed by HF has the upperhand. He isn't hurt by the pressure and uses HF posts to gauge his alignment. + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 19:13 Koshi wrote: Now I am in this limbo in which I don't know if HF is trolling or mafia or bad. Palmar probably trolling. On June 14 2017 19:14 Koshi wrote: But it is pretty mafia that HF is so convinced I am 3p though. He kinda disregarded the fact I could be mafia playing 3P a bit too easily imo.
We need to remember this fine piece of reasoning. On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote: Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. On June 14 2017 20:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 20:24 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 20:17 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote: But I am town though. I'm gonna destroy all anti-towns. Why am I anti-town? Started all depressing. My push made you realise you didn't start with your town meta. Got cased super hard by yourself and me about not following meta. You've done nothing to push game forward. Absolutely no 투혼. 3P/mafia koshi. I was tired yesterday. I actually completely forgot the game. Yes. Nha, I am explaining it to people. See how they react. 2 people saw it but didn't write it down. Lies. Once again I am top tier pushing the game forward. Like kushmaster once said. The main reason people play mafia is to read about themselves. I am enjoying this and I have no problem with being lynched anymore. But it won't happen this game cuz I want to play. On June 14 2017 20:49 Koshi wrote: Either HF is town and bold because he thinks is right. or he is mafia and super amused that his bullshit is being gobbled up this easily.
I am going to run with option 1 because rayn hasn't done anything yet. And potential other mafia hasn't typed enough. On June 14 2017 21:24 Koshi wrote:I already answered that Palmar. If he is mafia: He saw I opened with something odd for myself. Called me out and went to bed knowing he could blow it up in the morning, securing fake activity. Saw rayn doing something odd so he also called that out. That's 2 townleaders he is not working with but against in the thread. If both are town he is putting the entire thread in disarray and making it horrible for those 2 and others to find mafia. And on top of that everybody is gobbling up this Koshi is 3p story so it is working absolutely brilliantly. Nothing is being done. ggwp. Now... I think he is more likely town. And I am on the lookout for the mafias. On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote: Town TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious. Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it. Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had. Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town. Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia. Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.
Town with minus points. Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action. Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm
Null Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.
On June 14 2017 23:48 Koshi wrote: I also guess I should up HF a bit more. It looks similar. But it's totally different. In the last game he's leading. If this game he's suffering.
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On July 24 2017 13:42 Damdred wrote: The sheer apathy of the D1 lynch I think (RS being on neither wagon I believe) and Koshi just sitting on Vayne, personally, I think points even heavier that Skynx would be more likely town than scum. Especially with the Rayn kill that night.
Dunno why it's a point for or against Skynx.
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On July 24 2017 20:57 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 16:49 Rels wrote:On July 24 2017 13:42 Damdred wrote: The sheer apathy of the D1 lynch I think (RS being on neither wagon I believe) and Koshi just sitting on Vayne, personally, I think points even heavier that Skynx would be more likely town than scum. Especially with the Rayn kill that night.
Dunno why it's a point for or against Skynx. We know the skynx wagon is mostly town (at this point it's almost pure). If sky is scum we have to agree that they were ok with letting him die. Rsoultin didn't try to strengthen the wagon but was secure enough in scums position that she went away from both wagons. gonna have to reread exactly what happened. But your reasonning seems pretty flimsy at best. You were in the last game right ? We had a 7-6 votes town-scum vote D1, so scum managed to not get lynched in a very close vote; yet no scum voted for the main wagon to save their roleblocker. The 7 people wagon was pure. Voting to save your partner is hard, and you shouldn't assume a vote logic so simple makes Skynx town.
This is not even taking into account that the vote this game was a lot less scary in this current game from what I remember. Not one second I thought Skynx was gonna get lynched over VA D1. Maybe I'm biaised 'cause VA was my vote though.
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On July 25 2017 00:23 Skynx wrote: I mean im not gona put much effort into this deadgame, just trying to save you guys a ml. Game was only dead this weekend because scum decided to give up + it was weekend. If you're town I don't see why you're giving up.
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This is a few hours after the start of the game, and rsoul's second post.
On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote: -bounces-
can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec
also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!-
damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol ><
i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons rsoul's real first push being on EC is weird if they're partner. But that's not all. Just after, starting with this post, rsoul and EC have a ~40 posts conversation, at the beginning of the game, where it looks like EC is really trying to gauge rsoul. Doesn't feel like a scum vs scum AT ALL. I think I'm never considering EC as scum now that I've read that.
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On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that.
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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. The whole point of him on Ruxxar is that he didn't scumread EC for: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote: Distracting town with off-topic discussion. I see you are pulling out the tricks early. What's off topic about scum hunting ? How's your raynometer feeling? Wait, wait wait. Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion. BUT. You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target. I'm getting conflicting messaging here. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ruxxar why aren't you pushing this EC thing further, she literally just answered you by talking about something completely different than what you asked. I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it. Anyway thats not the main point: If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: i never said your case on EC wasn't townie, it was the best post in the thread. But you just threw it in the trash for no reason, and that makes you mafia.
Tell me this: 1) Why cannot, let's say Damdred, sickluckr and VA be mafia, as you are totally fine with geript dying by "poe"? 2) If they can, why are you actually totally fine with geript dying? That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar. On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread?? rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. On geript: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:18 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: try to tell why geript If I figure it out, I'll explain then. try something Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:28 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 13 2017 07:22 geript wrote: Hey HF. Find the worst post in the thread up to this point and quote it. On July 13 2017 06:10 rsoultin wrote: Lexy kicked me out for hosty reasons pffft. Leave me gifts for morning?
♡s a ruxxy pupil want to vomit blood On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again Not the post I wanted you to pick up on so I could like you more... this is also a terrible post. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also that's the worst reason ever to read holyflare town. I have a good case on geript, do you? This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". ##Vote: raynpelikoneet meh. Such a good post. It's Skynx' first post and I have no idea if he does good post like that as scum. OK he has done it before as scum. 1 2 3 In addition this post looks an awful lot like the one I really liked EON1:
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote: Summary
Very town: mahg Townlean: Exo, Calix Not read at all: darth Bad but not thoroughly read:Foreman Nullish cuz neither town nor scum but bad: Rels Scum: TT, NU
I pushed mahg earlier, his respons I liked. His lists later on I liked. He's not overly spammy. He's the most town imo.
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Calix is quite null actually this was hard to decide. His early game has been bad a he should know better by now after 3 games here that him vs NU just results in them filling filters and nothing else. He needs more thorough read for sure. I'm mostly townreading him on tone which I'm kinda confident after playing with him often in past few months, which i know is bad but its the best i can do atm.
Darth had that conspiracy about his opinion on me as a reason Rels and some others scumread, which doesn't mean anything imo but need to read him later on. I just got the feeling he's not been bad overall.
I don't like Foreman's over-aggressive tone. He didn't get much going against him but why so aggressive then? He most definitely needs a re-read, I think he's been flying under the radar.
Read above for opinions on Rels.
Read cases in filter for opinions on NU and TT.
It looks like this:
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote: Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote: I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. This second post is from this current game, the first is from his last scum game. I really liked this post from Skynx, I think I even townread him for it at one point, I thought it was very logical and well structured so a lot more likely to come from town. But all in all Skynx can play a very good scum game. A few great posts is not enough to make him town. On the contrary maybe, him having great posts at the beginning then declining starting D2 might indicate he's scum.
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On July 25 2017 04:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that. no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too [source required]
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On July 25 2017 04:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 04:01 sicklucker wrote:On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that. no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too [source required] And even if he does that "sometimes as town for the first cycle". Which I don't think he ever did. And I want you to prove he ever did. BUT even taking this hypothesis to be true for one minute. WHY would that make Koshi town just because he doesn't post ? Why couldn't he do that as scum this game ? Why is it "neutral to good" ?
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On July 25 2017 00:19 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 21:51 sicklucker wrote: my First and quite important train of thought is why was va lynched over skyx if they are both town? The only none fliped person voting skynx is tumbleweed. now I think hes town. So this means 3 mafia voted va over skyx or were off wagon.
Why wouldnt anyone as mafia hammer skynx over va there? Skynx is a much harder person to lynch then va. Va was always getting lynched in this game. Its basically a free lynch for mafia or two lynches for one.
The only conclusion I can think of is he is infact mafia. Lets call this reason 1
Theres way more evidence in the vote count to back this up
[*] VayneAuthority (6) - raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, sicklucker, emperorchampion, Rels, Koshi [*] Skynx (5) - [green] geript, ruXxar, Damdred, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood [green]
Notice how koshi is also the hammer vote... Yes skynx could have voted himself which is why the vote never seemed close to anyone. But you have to remember he was just afk... scum and town alike can be afk. Luckily scumlord koshi was around to save him.
Lets say skyx is town. that means the last mafia is ec or rels. Again they would have voted skynx over va if there smart... and they were the last votes so the most likely to change as well. Lets call this reason 2
Both points suggest someones mafia but both together is more then a coincidence
Why do you assume TW is green? He was the last vote on deadline switching on me. this is actually an extremely good remark. SL you're describing a situation where scum is more likely to vote Skynx in your POV. TW votes Skynx with a weird timing. But for some reason your conclusion ios that SKynx is 100% scum ?
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On July 15 2017 23:50 Damdred wrote: Tw I think is most likely town here, his bit looks bad but he is to honest atm and his vote looks bad and awkward and I fond that comes from town generally and he actually makes it seem like he can create a difference in the bit and seems to believe . Another town trait. this is true
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On July 16 2017 01:04 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote: Are you 100% gonna stick to this read? No it's not 100%. Looking through my filter, I found sicklucker to be more interesting. He actually defended koshi with out of game information, not just once, but twice. Koshi/SL team is very possible. Then you may slide into third place, or maybe rels/vivax. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good Like this is a terrible defense of a person. What he's saying is "koshi said he was gonna play scummy, and because he's playing scummy he looks good" No, it makes him look fucking scummy. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:26 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi what's your opinion on what i said about ruxxar? I don't know what ruxxar is doing this game. So basically I agree with the idea behind your case. He made a couple extremely dumb observations this game. I don't understand what he is doing as I don't see him solving the game while playing. Last game he scumread me while I had a 10 page filter and correctly read him while nobody else did, this game he very quickly townread both townleaders for scumhunting... Filterlenght and sheer enthusiasm holds me back but he is on the watch list. Koshi, you are way too serious this game. You look nothing like your last game. Your tone is completely different. Very somber and low energy. protip: Different does not equal mafia. Why am I somber? 1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo" Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you. Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view. 2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game. Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone: On June 14 2017 16:52 Koshi wrote: Hmm I am going to call fefe and TW town.
TW for thinking fefe is hilariously suspicious and fefe for believing that.
2 townreads. 1 more than rayn.
ggwp. On June 14 2017 16:49 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 16:46 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 13:40 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote: This deadline is nice for me.
##vote koshi :/ This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/ See. Now you are mafia 81/100 times, 9/100 times mafia pretending to be town, 9/100 times town pretending to be mafia, and only 1% chance to be town being town. Can't disagree with math. Especially my math. Koshi had this planned before the game even started he talked about it in the obs qt and post game , last game.... #WeLynchedPeopleWhoWereRight
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On July 16 2017 05:14 sicklucker wrote: im def down to lynch either koshi or you. seems like a good wager What ? I thought Koshi's lackluster D1 was slightly townie
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Koshi's treatment of SL is pretty damning too. Ignoring him,having weak interactions with him a few times, but he's in his scumlist without being his main target. Partner probability: 90%.
In addition, his hard push on TW seems like a fake way to make us think they're bussing. I mean, this seems way over the top:
On July 21 2017 02:00 Koshi wrote: ## unvote ## vote: Vivax
Going to party. Dont think my cote should be needed but wont be home anymore and tw is noy happening. This double bus was best idea ever.
About Skynx, he's kinda lackluster too, but this is kinda townie for Skynx:
On July 17 2017 02:26 Koshi wrote: I scumread EC just by reading Skynx his filter. I didn't read before the lynch but I have no clue how he was the counterwagen. dunno if a partner does this post if Koshi / Skynx are a team. He's using openly using Skynx' read to push EC. If Skynx ever flips this looks bad.
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TLDR SL is always the lynch tomorrow. If I'm wrong it's very likely to be Skynx. But I don't think I am.
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On July 25 2017 06:27 Tumblewood wrote: those are some good points on sl. i still think this game lines up well with what i'd call sl's "worldview", but admittedly i don't have a great read on him. the big thing i get out of this is that rels is either town or producing some of the best analysis i have ever seen from scum. thankfully we have 1 ML left but i will read both of their filters/meta tonight. why do you think you'll have to do that ? Are you so sure Skynx is flipping town or what ?
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On July 25 2017 08:56 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 05:07 Rels wrote:During N1: On July 16 2017 05:14 sicklucker wrote: im def down to lynch either koshi or you. seems like a good wager What ? I thought Koshi's lackluster D1 was slightly townie he also hammered town that cycle... so ?
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On July 25 2017 09:00 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 05:26 Rels wrote: TLDR SL is always the lynch tomorrow. If I'm wrong it's very likely to be Skynx. But I don't think I am. setting up two lynches lul. maybe I was wrong here lol. Throwing shade but still voting Skynx right. So bad
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On July 26 2017 02:12 emperorchampion wrote:OK so sorry guys I have been super busy the last few days . I think it makes sense to claim now, I am town parity cop. Night 1 I checked tumble, night 2 I checked rels (hence the crazy posts after this), night 3 I checked koshi, night 4 I checked skynx. Tumble and rels came back as same alignment, koshi came back as opposite alignment from rels, and skynx came back as opposite alignment as koshi. If you are looking for any validity to back my claim, I did not vote for the "red check" on rels night 2 (actually I thought I tmi'd immediately lol). And the crazy theories that I had after night 2 regarding rels and tumble was based on I thought they were a scum team at the time. Given my check I prefer to vote for sicklucker. Given that there is only 1 scum left, the only other possibility is that one of rels/tumble is godfather, or skynx is godfather. Given that the roleblocker flipped and there was a miller, I believe it is unlikely that there is a godfather on the scum team. alright this is good. Doesn't make sense for scum to claim here. Just in case. If you're blue, you CLAIM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT MEANS EC IS SCUM. AND we have 2 lynches so the game is won. EC is 99.9999% blue but just in case.
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and yeah parity cop is a weak cop already, so miller + RB + GF seems like it would be too much cop hate for his weak checks. So it makes SL even more scum
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On July 26 2017 03:17 Tumblewood wrote: goon/rb/gf is a pretty standard mafia team comp so i would not be surprised at all if rels or skynx is gf, even with miller in this game TBH SL can also be GF
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On July 26 2017 03:46 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2017 03:34 Rels wrote:On July 26 2017 03:17 Tumblewood wrote: goon/rb/gf is a pretty standard mafia team comp so i would not be surprised at all if rels or skynx is gf, even with miller in this game TBH SL can also be GF this is true but unlikely. before the claim i was at 55% skynx/30% you/15% sl, and now i'm not sure. it's hard to play the odds on what sort of setup we think the hosts might make, but i can say for sure sl is more likely. scum dunno how can you think I'm double the chance to be scum compared to SL. Especially since liked my posts on him yesterday
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and this is why you never auto lynch. Especially lategame.
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On July 26 2017 09:03 sicklucker wrote: Man I have the worst luck with partners its hard to be motivated to play mafia. Im not saying my partners are always awful some have success outside of are games but as soon as they see sicklucker on the team its time to put in zero effort.
I had 3 team mates try very little this game which is impressive since I was only saposed to have 2 :D. If you look at my past mafia games 8/10 of them are me playing solo mafia. The only time I ever won as mafia was the only time I had a partner try. God bless jats soul
Ok rant over hey I tried hard the game we were together. p: And I remember you winning as scum with partner Palmar, final lynch was me. VE was in that game too
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Assuming Rels is town, this is the perfect reason why I don't respect him as a player. When your town play is mostly inactive and fuckery, who cares. Anyone can have a good game. But I've never seen a good player not pause to think about a lynch. Once Rsoul flipped, Koshi is almost guaranteed to be town. Like you have to go back and reconsider.
hahaha. I always pause to think about a lynch. For the Koshi lynch I (rightly) concluded he was still scum + I drank the whole weekend so I couldn't post. BTW did you catch that time where I reread the ENTIRE game after Koshi flipped and caught the final scum ? Was that good enough for you ?
Rels, that is the real french flag. Just fyi. No sideways applied.
fuck you =D
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On July 26 2017 17:10 emperorchampion wrote: Yeah as mentioned in the obs by others, I got the feeling it was a bit town favored, but eh. That's why I was super paranoid about extra mafia prs TBH I don't really know about that. Usually parity cop don't get 3 perfect checks on alive players by D5. He can be killed, he can check players that are then killed, there was a RB and a miller ... don't know if that was really town favored. And to add to that SL was not even dead yet. Not blaming him to give up as it's a hard spot, but with a GF being a potential scenario he could have tried hard and maybe turned it around. It's not like TW and Skynx were super townie. TW saying "mm I'll vote Skynx and I'll reread Rels / SL after" and Skynx ninja voting TW when he had a big case on SL was easy to push.
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like, let's imagine there was a GF in the game. SL was GF. The checks and the game would have been the same but the setup would have been more fair in your POV ?
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On July 26 2017 20:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: gg
rels you really need to start playing earlier. for once it was totally out of my hands. Not that it excuses the other times p:
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I hit F5 and a birthday cake appears. Happy birthday!
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