[M][N] Medic Mafia
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On February 19 2018 17:21 prplhz wrote: what about making it a no flip game That'd become a shitfest. Good idea! (no sarcasm) | ||
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Will /in again probably next week if it hasn't started by then. But going to be busy for the next few days. | ||
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but the hosty might be /out | ||
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I'm town so my posting rhythm should reach critical mass sometime soon I suppose. I'm moderately caught up and after reading a bunch of posts (of which I'm reading more as I write this up) I think that rsoultin and Moosy are town, and also the volumetric heroes of D1. For some reason I like the fact DF peaced in just to tell us he's going to read the OP tomorrow. Thanks DF. Tubesock/AMG/Noobking early interaction could yield scum. On March 06 2018 11:03 n00bKing wrote: Well let's not allow ourselves to become distracted by discussion that doesn't need to take place yet. We don't need to decide whether to mass claim on Day 2 until it's Day 2. On March 06 2018 11:36 Tubesock wrote: Didn't you just chastise me for talking about mass claiming strategy? And here you are talking about setup and strategy. Your hypocrisy is delicious. On March 06 2018 13:59 AMG wrote: He did not chastise you at all. Why are you so pricky? I can't decide if Tube overreacted here which I'm not sure he did cause choosing the path to conflict isn't really the mafias way. So leaning less towards tube mafia purely from this. Just seemed genuinely pissed that noobking shut him down about something and then started talking about that anyway. The AMG post initially looks like he wants to rectify the way Tubesock reacts. He drags out the prickly argumentation out for too long for my taste and transforms it into a full fledged scumread a few posts later. I can't really get behind AMGs reasons to scumread Tube as they are. He possibly went into the discussion with the mindset "I'll take safe sides in a TvT discussion and point at Tube making a mistake" , but since AMG also had to do something out of that to maintain the looks of doing something, he took the only thing he pointed out (prickly Tube) and made a case out of it. On March 06 2018 15:24 AMG wrote: Being prickly is scummy. You have to accept that people are going to ping you in this game. A prickly reaction usually comes from someone trying to hide something and reacting poorly. I don't have an opinion for or against people discussing strategy or mass claiming. I'll be spending my calories focusing on the psychology of players as opposed to trying to game mechanics. I don't find noobking scummy at all, I'm actually pretty certain he's town But he actually only votes Tube when Noobking does: On March 06 2018 20:45 AMG wrote: Basically, this. ##Vote: Tubesock Bottom line, i'm 1/13th of the game and you don't seem to care to engage me, I'd like to know why. And saying we disagree on one point is absolutely not an answer. I don't even know how his bottom line relates to anything he said before about being prickly. Hitting post, voting amg and resuming :> | ||
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Handing cookies to the wrong people? Why did he get a cookie? On March 06 2018 15:58 MoosyDoosy wrote: If I recall correctly this is exactly how the old n00bKing I knew of old was like. Always fussing with fine details I would just gloss over Is this a townread? Cause I just wrote up the same and it makes me townread him. I don't understand this whole thingy about tubesock calling HF medic. Seems like he's being misrepped since he also clarified it sufficiently in my opinion. It does make noobking come out as townie but why is tubesock mafia for any of this? The synopsis was that HF can fakeclaim mafia as town or medic where did tubesock mean it in any other way, poor wording excluded? | ||
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I don't see what would have required catching up in regards to his initial tubesock read however. It remains a read that is essentially based on Tube being prickly entirely, except that the actual vote happens only when Noobking votes. His initial impression that Tube is prickly goes from being an observation to an explanation for why it is scummy to a vote for other reasons. It looks like he reacts to his own posts to keep up a narrative in this case. I see it like this could have happened: Townie overreacts to other townie, AMG spots possible fault by TS, calls him prickly but doesn't go with it anywhere. So he needs to make a followup posts telling us that he thinks it's a mafia trait cause the previous post alone in the room would look bad. Only when Noobking attacks Tubesock AMG decides to vote for him, and he does it by rehashing/agreeing with what Noobking said. So AMG was kind of looking for reasons to get onto Tubesock purely for the reason he called him prickly already, and since his own reason didn't get enough pull, he only felt like he had the opportunity to do so when Noobking voted first. This is summed up what's not right with AMG in my opinion. | ||
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On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? | ||
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On March 08 2018 00:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 07 2018 17:34 MoosyDoosy wrote: no can do buddy sorry I do things my own way. The post was really light and jokey and metagamey and toney which are all things I see town Damdred doing. It's a tonal read so that's about as good as the description gets but I've actually played a fair amount of games with Damdred and this seems town Damdred. chaoser sounds exactly like me. When is this man entering the thread I need to meet him. Thanks. And you would stick to that read at this point? Cause besides you playing a fair amount of games with him and him seeming town to you, there really is no argument in the room for Damdred being town that anyone else could see except from your experienced point of view? For all I know, Damdred can still be mafia and what he's posted so far doesn't particularly sway me either way. On March 07 2018 02:56 Damdred wrote: It was more boring then I originally thought it would be, in that regard i'm slightly...disappointed. But Rsoultin is more than likely town, perhaps hard town in my mind at present. The way she read me seemed like a way she would do in town, and honestly even though I am not quite the player I was she would still like to interact with me then piling on early, also tone is pretty good and not pestering HF to get him to tilt is also a point in her favor. Never doubt this read my friends. Also AMG and Moosey are more than likely town in this situation. Both seem open, inquisitive and a good tone. Also Moosey I believe town read me early which I liked! (I like it when people come up with interesting reasons to townread someone as pro town ^_-, even if I could fake it as scum). I actually don't like FF at this point so far, his tone seemed a bit off earlier and sort of like he was just trying to post to post a bit? But it was still early and its just a lean. Tube I am not sure of, this slip I don't really buy and don't want to lynch him for that so far ehhhh. This post could come from mafia. 7 lines explaining his town reads, 3 explaining his scum reads. Easy to just get cred points by townreading people and spending as little as possible on his scumreads. | ||
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Not even his scumreads, he says FF is just a lean and Tube isn't a scumread, it's a null and he doesn't look at him particularly well aside from the slip that HF wanted to sell. Which takes me to that (a post on the backburner): On March 06 2018 16:24 Holyflare wrote: Tubesock has called me medic! Not just town or mafia. Medic. Let that sink in. ##vote tubesock On March 06 2018 16:30 Holyflare wrote: Yes and as noobking says someone said I can do that as either alignment or any role but you have specifically said I'm a medic. There's a big difference from saying what I said means nothing to saying what I said means I am medic but either alignment. It appears like you know I'm medic but then add a hedge on top as a "oh I don't know" to fit in. It's a weird thought process comparatively to hf can be anything. Why shouldn't he call you town or mafia medic after you claimed medic? Why would mafia be more prone to take your claim at face value? If you are not one of them and Tube is, none of his information should push him towards believing you more or less. Or can you explain why believing your claim is more likely to happen to mafia who should pay attention to not let slip that they know someone is town. | ||
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On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote: Okay i've caught up. AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange" Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense. A loveless post. This dude and this dude are town atm. I think this dude is kinda townie right now actually, for once [are you sure you didn't forget to add anything, df] Maybe this dudess is is town too because I agree with her about that dude. Lynch these three dudes for the time being. Here's an explanation for one of them: I didn't like that he didn't post both read and reasons in one post [which could be said for AMG]. Peace out. | ||
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For all I know he took a stance similar to mine in regards to the AMG tubesock discussion. His filter doesn't make me lean either way. Why you? | ||
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What makes him lazy mafia over lazy town here? | ||
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Reading through moosy I noticed he pointed out how you had DF on the radar for his entrance but I don't see much investigation into him afterwards even now that he's been in the spotlight for a while (hopefully I didn't miss anything). To answer your previous question regarding my reads on you and Moosy: I ruled you out based on tone and amount of content when I started playing and skimmed a bit. You bossing around the thread and Moosys general involvedness. Just some heuristic early townreads to get started and reduce the pool of peeps I'm looking into. Those are superficial reads so prone to change as the game goes on. | ||
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On March 08 2018 06:03 AMG wrote: You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock which I've gone over two or three times now. His pricklyness catches my eye, as did him having a read that conflicted with mine, so I challenged his read. He refused to discuss anything with me at all, like he didn't give a shit about my alignment and had no drive to find out why I had a different opinion to him. Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did. So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did) _____ I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive). And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df. Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards. | ||
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Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards. I just remembered you townread him afterwards for some reason. Kind of interesting that you type this though: You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock Why take? I thought you changed him back to town? | ||
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