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I am in La Palma from the 19th but we will see. | ||
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Going to attempt to make my first vote on a townie and all next votes on mafia. For a change. | ||
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Sry to disappoint. | ||
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On June 09 2018 08:20 iamperfection wrote: You know what happens when you disappoint me? You murder baby seals? | ||
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On June 09 2018 16:58 Holyflare wrote: The most unfunny thing I think I've ever seen you post. Sry | ||
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30 more posts. I skimmed all the small ones and almost got through the first big post of rayn. Then just ignored his next posts. I am voting Rels because he doesnt play D1 and hides his alignment that way. I will vote somebody else if I think that person is more likely to mafia. Alas, I am not really reading any posts so that probably wont happen. | ||
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I don't think this makes fuba mafia or town. But it makes HF townie. First official Koshi read: HF | ||
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I care more for the no commitment blunt short stuff than rayn his boring long winded stuff. But I was playing HS. | ||
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I think I will vote him for hardtrying tis hard. It’sunheathy. Unfunny true story My samsung s7 melted and now I am on an iphone i want to kill myself so bad... I geta new s7 soon. I didnt read anything else so dont count on me. I agree I should have voted rayn like my gut told me. But I dont know if he is mafi. I feel very neutral about everything. | ||
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On June 12 2018 00:00 TheSlenderMan wrote: Koshi, what do you mean by "I think I will vote him [rayn] for hardtrying tis hard. It’sunheathy." ? I know what the words mean but I want you to rephrase why do you think this makes rayn scummy. It is against the esthetics of this slow and tight game to answer question that were already explained in the post you ask the question from. | ||
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On June 12 2018 09:04 Tubesock wrote: I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking? Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re Town so there’s that. This postis really good Good tone, good analysis Tube is my second townread | ||
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Really does almost nothing | ||
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On June 12 2018 21:24 Mocsta wrote: Koshi 316/417 Real bad Declares tubesock town based on a post suggesting i am mafia. Then declares me most likely mafia. I am sure I didnt do this on purpose But it is good to know that my townread has the same feels like I do TW is town for his aggressive idgaf attitude while conversing But it was with you that is true Iphone does not have a point on its first screen So plebs | ||
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This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn | ||
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On June 13 2018 07:14 Mocsta wrote: I am seeing the light. I note that Koshi avoided giving me a read on Kitaman too. Retard | ||
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On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote: Take back comment b4. Didnt see this. What makes you say he is trying hard? all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where... Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one. Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words. I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them. But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people. Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level. | ||
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On June 13 2018 08:19 Mocsta wrote: The observation that rayns reads lines up with thread sentiment to rayn is actually very good. But this is why you are scum kita... Your forte... the associated analysis.. well, its terrible. See, to me, bar KSC.. rayn has organically shown how those reads were reached in my opinion. This makes your observation a coincidence. Like, we cant get hamstrung on the KSC/superbia thing because IT WAS EARLY GAME. and unfortunately, KSC has done fuck all since so there is no genuine opportunity to ask Rayn (or others) to re-evaluate. retard. You are mafia or just fucking dumb imho. Maybe I am wrong. But this is the dumbest shit I read. | ||
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On June 13 2018 16:50 Holyflare wrote: Maybe mocsta actually You are my first townread for a reason. | ||
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On June 13 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote: HF: We dont play the same and frankly you call me mafia every game no matter what i do, because of this. I'm pretty tired of you getting fixated on round pegs that fit round holes, thinking they should be square. I'm going to keep calling out these posts of yours, so get used to it. This is where i am at anyways Holyflare Rayn fuba kitaman27 tubesock koshi Rels KelsierSC iamperfection Grackaroni TheSlenderMan Holy is intention half green as hes the weakest of my town circle. Whilst the timing of fuba claim is questionable, I am inclined to outright believe it because of the observation Grack identified prior. That observation solidifies Grack as confirmed town for me as well. I think HF is focusing on whats in front of him, cos 40% of the game is AFK. But overall I think the game is solved in that list of red and black. In short this cycle: Kitaman27 >> Koshi >> Anyone else. To town: Lynching Mocsta is good even if he is town. To mafia: Holy fuck you must love Mocsta. | ||
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1. Holyflare Town - I said why 4. raynpelikoneet Can't read his posts because they are boring as fuck. 5. fuba Blue claim and will believe it. Dumb as fuck claim unless he was going to get lynched and I think he might be so ok for me. 6. kitaman27 Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence. I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia. Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol. 7. Tubesock See my earlier townread on him. It was explained. Then this post: On June 12 2018 05:03 Tubesock wrote: I liked most all of HF stuff. I think Mocsta was the one berating and misconstruing. I haven’t liked any of Mocsta’s posts. I’m also not really a fan of Gracks eod performance. But it’s only scummy if Rayn is mafia. I’m leaning more towards Rayn being town. Everyone is pretty null. Although Kita made me laugh with two of his posts. And I don’t like to kill people who make me laugh. Let's just lynch Mocsta and if he is mafia we have some confirmed townies and can be happy. 8. Mocsta Really Mocsta. No offense. I like you. Also you think I am mafia so in the rare case you are town just see this as a mafia annoying you trying to tilt you. If Mocsta is town, he is (more likely) extremely wrong this game. (kita is not mafia, I am not mafia) If Mocsta is town, he is boring as fuck to read. Really fucking boring posts imo. If Mocsta is town, he bickers with people (ex. Tube) and not doing a lot of working together with people to solve the game. If Mocsta is town, he is super m33k towards HF and rayn and again he is not making posts towards them that look townie. He is not trying to push his will on them, just greasing them or something. It's dirty. And all in all I don't believe Mocsta scumreads kita but is just mafia defending against with OMGUS. 10. Rels Should have killed this shitter D1 like I told you. Still looks like horseshit even if iamp is mafia or rayn town or w.e he said in his little post is true. Lynch this fucker. 11. KelsierSC More trash for the trashcan 12. iamperfection He is mafia more likely. I would lynch him over Rels and Kelsier. Because the other 2 are more likely to be trash and town than iamp. 13. Grackaroni Could be mafia taking the backseat adjusting his reads correctly when sentiment shifts. So could be dangerous mafia. But we probably can't lynch him till the trash is taken out. Also haven't reread his filter. 14. TheSlenderMan Trash for the trashcan. | ||
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I would also describe myself as that before the post you got offended by and my realization that Mocsta needs to go asap and the fact I voted Mocsta. | ||
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I forgot to vote in the votethread. ##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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I am assuming he is town and terribly wrong. rayn Maybe I should read Kita his case but this is why I think rayn might be town: 1) I like the tone of his posts. For example it has some ego in it. "my reads are pretty good lately" & "I only care about being right" 2) He is pushing the game forward with his reads/posts and not reacting to reads (I think) (For example the Palmar read) 3) He is so fucking wrong HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. rayn as mafia more likely just plays into thread sentiment writing what people want to hear and predicts where the thread ends up. This rayn is imo (due to my reads) more likely completely fucking wrong. And that is why he is getting votes from townies. Because he is wrong. Not because he is mafia. Anyway. That is enough. I shall read what Kita said about rayn. I ignored that. | ||
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On June 14 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote: ?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them? Oh another retard. Where the fuck did I say I didn't read them? I literally said I read them. You even bolded that part you dumb fuck. And there is a huge difference between understanding the full game and how people think and why they think what they think and just glancing and looking if people type up smart or really indepth shit. | ||
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I will yield and say he is mafia. And not hide behind horrible as fuck townie. | ||
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On June 12 2018 23:54 kitaman27 wrote: Everyone look back at the way rayn casually throws a town read on grack and tell me it it looks legitimate to you guys. Here is the entirety of grack's filter at the time of the post. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2018 08:01 Grackaroni wrote: Never fear old chums -- GRACKARONI is on the HUNT. None can evade the penetrating gaze of my frothing noodles. On June 09 2018 09:16 Grackaroni wrote: Man of 27 kitas, could you send me a banana? I am all out of bananas. I have heard that you have the bananas. Two throw away posts and then one more. A scum list of 3 players. Now he obviously agrees with the Palmar read, but how about the other two? Well Rels hasn't entered the game yet and Superbia is his strongest town read! So why is grack suddenly town for a list post where he agrees with 1/3 names on the list? Why isn't he questioning grack about the superbia read considering he doesn't see any evidence to support it? rayn suddenly having an epiphany with a town read on grack just seems so out of place at this point. Then when I directly confront him about it, he twists it around on me without an explanation as if I'm the one that is looking scummy for finding the inconsistency. He doesn't bother trying to justify the read because he knows he can't and someone picked up on it so he goes full offense. This is weak Kita. Why isn't this town!rayn just doing things because he is town and he can do things? Maybe his thought process simply isn't in the thread. The epiphany doesn't make rayn mafia, unless you can proof mafia motivation, it might just be town rayn seeing something and feeling something click in his head that made Grack town. The part about him attacking you I don't remember from thread but not justifying yourself towards a townie and just go blatant offense sounds actually townie. That's what townies do and mafia don't do. Mafia do it when theyy are really cornered and it is their last hope. | ||
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On June 14 2018 01:34 Holyflare wrote: If you read them then you should know if they are surface level posts or not. You then proceed to call them good posts. How can you read them and think they're good but have no idea if they're surface level? I don't want to talk to you. Read my posts. Or don't. If you don't understand simple shit like this I don't really give a fuck. | ||
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There is always a chance Kita/rayn/HF/Tube are mafia and I am wrong but the past 1.5 years have shown I am always more on the right side than the wrong side. And most of the time on the really really right side. But maybe this is the game I am really wrong. Who knows these things? | ||
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Mocsta, iamp I will do this for now. If you don't vote in the reds just vote me lol. Because I won't show more commitment towards this game than I just did. Also. If you fucks would read filters you would see how many people have issues with Mocsta. It's incredible actually. | ||
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I will revisit kita and mocsta on d3. If both are alive. Today I lynch iamp | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: iamp and slender are going to show up 2 minutes before the deadline and hammer me. I can feel it. This post is bad and you should feel bad. Are those 2 mafia? | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote: Obviously you already know the answer to this, so I am expecting that apology.. br0 I also note that you are being aggressively rude this game. something wrong in personal life? or that concerned about your teammate getting lynched? thats a genuine question btw if it didnt come across that way. No life is currently the best it has ever been. And I am town. Both statements are true. | ||
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Kita if you go rip blame yourself. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote: HF you know what fuck you. i want that apology from koshi, and i want to wipe that stupid grin from your face + i just got super tied up with EoFY stuff as well ##Unvote ##Vote: Mocsta I cannot apologize for calling you a dumb townie if you go out like a dumb townie. Just an fyi. | ||
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Blah. Many people are town now I assume. With some luck iamp is also mafia. Havent read last 3 pages. Tomorrow I will post how kita pocketed me. | ||
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Nha. Just me being bad. The tr he gave me kinda threw me off. That and mocsta. Blahhhhh | ||
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Everything. I typed was wrong | ||
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I can only guess. I will put my vote where rayn tells me. I am not worthy anymore My ego is bruised I am a maggot in the dirt | ||
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How is this possible. How did this happen | ||
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I will never find peace. | ||
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I am like one of those flag in the air throwing guys that dropped his flag and it broke and now he has to run the entire parade with a broken stick. I am that guy | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:41 Holyflare wrote: And probably koshi for his "reading" and explanation of kita posts. Pleb Koshi is sorry. He was tricked and thought kita was smart. Pleb Koshi is sorry. | ||
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On June 14 2018 09:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: you are fucking trash if town so go figure you dipshit. Pleb Koshi is not worthy of your time, Master R. Please do not give up on your humble servant and teach him your ways. | ||
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On June 14 2018 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is actually the most relevant question to anyone i have atm. Pleb Koshi always thought you were a kind master. Good and just to its people. | ||
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On June 14 2018 17:08 KelsierSC wrote: nice job. Need to know whether or not perfect is town/mafia. Assuming it was town vs mafia then a fuba/koshi lynch sounds good. Pleb Koshi his only crime is being bad and getting pocketed by evil kitaman. But Great and Noble Master R showed Koshi the way. Koshi is an humble servant now. Do not think ill off him. | ||
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On June 15 2018 07:05 Tubesock wrote: Koshi, Rels, KelsierSC covers the last two. It’s still theoretically possible Iamperfection is mafia but I think low chance. How can I be mafia lol........... I had the exact same reads than you did before you had them. Exact the same reads and they were wrong..... lolol. | ||
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On June 14 2018 01:41 Koshi wrote: Kita/rayn/HF/Tube Mocsta, iamp I will do this for now. If you don't vote in the reds just vote me lol. Because I won't show more commitment towards this game than I just did. Also. If you fucks would read filters you would see how many people have issues with Mocsta. It's incredible actually. | ||
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On June 14 2018 01:58 Tubesock wrote: I think rayn, HF, Koshi, and Kita are all town. Fuba too. I normally dislike nitpickers. Mocsta is definitely nitpicking. But we’re on day 57 or something and only on page 20, so ya kinda have to nitpick. I won’t be voting him today because of that. HF already said, and I think someone already alluded to what I think about Grack. Grack was worried about his vote appearance and then after he got grief he changed his posting style. I don’t think townGrack cares that much to change up. His reads are typically REALLY good. He just doesn’t seem to be as good at or care about his survival ability or getting his Lynch in games. I think Iamperfection is the player everyone knows is mafia, but no one wants to kill him cause he’s a lurker and a slow game will be even slower if we decide to lynch him early in the day. | ||
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I will post more in my lunch break. | ||
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Anyway. I still dont find it normal Tube is calling me mafia after he posted an exact copy of my reads d1. Kelsiet is so down to business and boring I dont know wtf he is doing. Voting kita also means nothing because reading his filter he basically landed on him early by accident. HF I do not read mafia but rayn did and I will vote him just based on that. If people dont like that they can go fuck themselves. I say this now so I can quote it later. Iamp I have to think about. If I channel some cares I will attempt to figure out why kita fell apart near EoD. Slender looked ok. He is thinking at least. I forgot who else was in this game but Ohno Mocsta.... I am also believing rayn on him. And the fact Mocsta and kita bickered. Soooo he is green for me. And that's it. I forgot all others. | ||
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I can lynch him out of spite and will not be bothered to ever call him town this game. | ||
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On June 11 2018 08:35 kitaman27 wrote: Mocsta, you're either so tunneled that you're automatically assuming that each of my actions is scummy or you're purposely pushing me knowing that you have no chance of lynching me so you can continue the same nonsense day two. You say that the mafia team is kita, plus 1 of Palmar and rayn, but a kita + rayn scumteam makes no sense in any stretch of the imagination. Do you still even view that as a possibility because you never even come close to showing a willingness to vote him? I'm not twisted your words, you're up in arms about a joke post 9 minutes into the game. Suggesting that I'm mafia for putting too much effort into a joke post is silly. As for the rayn stuff, he had a 24 hour chance to call Palmar mafia but didn't until Palmar threw out a vote and then he went full omgus. Imho this looks a lot like a plead from kita to Mocsta. Trying to ease suspicion. Especially because kita called Mocsta mafia bit earlier I think. Tell me if I am wrong. But Mocsta is very likely town now. | ||
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On June 12 2018 07:59 kitaman27 wrote: I kinda doubt I'm getting shot, but if I do rayn and Mocsta should be the ones you guys focus on tomorrow. I still need to do a reread myself since I've only really skimmed the n1 stuff. I really have no idea who the third could be. I could honestly come up for a reason for basically every other player why they could be mafia aside from tube and slender and that's only because they haven't posted anything. They obviously all can't be mafia, but at the same time I'm also starting to get concerned about the assumption that only 1 of them is scum if its rayn + mocsta. Late game is going to be a complete mess at this rate. -super started out okayish, but has shown no interest in yesterday's lynch. -fuba has no reads and then shows up with the ninja Palmar vote -Rels seems like he threw out a post because he needed to say something, but it doesn't seem like he strongly believes anything he has said and just calls a bunch of stuff weird -koshi threw away his vote when he could have hammered rayn, but I guess he wasn't obligated to post that he was around or preferred rayn over Palmar -KSC no idea -iamp is posting nothing but throw away comments that aren't relevant to the game aside from the rayn vote -HF's most recent post about me being mafia has me a bit concerned because we basically share the same top two scum reads. Doesn't seem very consistent from his viewpoint. -grack threw away his vote when rayn was the logical choice for him. Guess we'll see who flips and go from there. This post and then all next posts from kita looked very impressive in a world nobody was doing shit. I got bamboozled and mistakenly thought he was town trying to do shit. I also didnt read very indepth and just looked at the words and yeah... He also tr me on a cool way and I thought he was smart. Soooo I got played. | ||
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Kita was active mafia. He would not make mafia iamp look so bad by ignoring him. If Kita just hammered or pushed iamp there is a chance iamp would die and kita would look better. Not at the very end but still. Why not get some credit for lynching a trash teammate. I dont know. But looks more like kita wanted town to lynch iamp and not be associated with it? | ||
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If some1 wants to be cool go look up some games? I can do it but when I am home. | ||
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But unless I see mafia games I cant say much. | ||
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Maybe there is one blue left. I also dont see fuba as a threat unless I see at least another blue. | ||
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Boring as fuck while he plays an idgaf style. Could at least make some waves. Is not making waves. Would lynch iamp tbh. | ||
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Tube I dont understand. I dont understand why he calls me mafia. We had the exact same reads. And he was after me. Like...... why does he flip on me? My EoD was probably way townier than the rest because I actually did things near EoD. Horrible things in retrospect, but I was not pushing iamp or removing votes from kita. I was just wrong... | ||
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And with that I mean Grack and Mocsta. They can spend my vote how they see fit. | ||
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I dont buy that you first write "Iamp is the mafia we all know but dont want to vote and Koshi is a clear townread" Into "Iamp cant be mafia anymore and Koshi has a 66% chance to be mafia" Such bs. Your iamp change doesnt make sense. And you completely forget why you tr me in the first place it seems. Like... nope. | ||
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Where do we put our vote HF? | ||
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On June 16 2018 04:06 Holyflare wrote: We lynched mafia (inadvertently nonetheless) but not that enthusiastic really. I think we just lynch iamp for playing like trash and carry on from there. If he's town then we know mafia likely tried to save kita. Blah blah. I dont know if mafia tried to save kita. I check the votes. Why do you love Kelsier so much? | ||
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And after that only kita and our blue voted iamp. So why do you say mafia tried to save kita? That is such bullshit. | ||
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On June 13 2018 22:08 KelsierSC wrote: think perfection is a good vote , him or kitamin are good but kitamin seems to have been posting more stuff. On June 11 2018 16:28 KelsierSC wrote: not sure who to vote for. lynching kitamin sounds good though. Quotes are wrong order. Meh. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=KelsierSC http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479158-mafia-mini-mafia-a-miniature-game-of-mafia?user=KelsierSC http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=KelsierSC http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/492282-tl-mafia-lxxii-gaiden-2?user=KelsierSC http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494452-student-mafia-xv?user=KelsierSC Kelsier his mafia games. Havent looked at it. Just pages. Low except one but that was a 163 pages game. Didn't check all though. Is thought for later or if somebody cares. | ||
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But Kelsier also could be the easiest misslynch for mafia to push. Blah blah. It's so weak. In the games I watched from Kelsier, he definitely also played like this as town. More activity though. But also very disconnected | ||
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The list is: Town: active players Bit town: upcoming active player Null: less vocal players Mafia: afkers | ||
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Nha he can die. | ||
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So bad. | ||
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##Vote: Holyflare Voted hf. Let iamp pass and is watching cats in trees. Also rayn. | ||
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Because your d2 is non existant. Pure reactive play. And especially defensive. Like iamp posts shitreads and you just troll him a bit. And this iamp & hf buddy buddy thing that is going on is also pretty smelly | ||
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Dnu. I will not vote Mocsta with rayn dieing. He said Mocsta was town. I am ok with that. | ||
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On June 14 2018 10:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Slendy i would like to trust you but i have no idea who your scumreads are rn when your scumreads were pretty much never there. I hope more during night phase, if not, and i am dead i think you are the best lynch come D3. now i need to sleep, i gotta go to work in 6 hrs. we'll see if i have time in the evening. This guy we need to pay attention to as well. He has the biggest motivation to kill rayn probably. | ||
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No. | ||
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So yeah.. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:14 TheSlenderMan wrote: Thanks, guys. Ah right, I misread kitaman's commentary on rayn during the Palmar--rayn -counterwagons situation. So much for that Scumduo being actually plausible. The thing that troubled me wrt kitaman still troubles me after the filter. I have a hard time trying to explain it in English, though. It sounds like, until the direct D2-discussion with rayn, he tries to comment on everything in a general way that appears good on the surface but includes as little risk to himself as possible while doing it. As in, lacking the committal tone a Townie usually has while trying to solve the game. Am curious about the iamp-wagon -- it's based on him not being around today, and kind of dicking around yesterday? Is he REALLY the kind of player who'd lose interest and drop out as Mafia? Very few players actually do that, even then it's usually in unique circumstances like Scumteam-infighting... admittedly, I don't know iamp as a player, but I'd still be surprised if this was an actual, legitimate reason for a wagon? The part about iamp bugged me. I dont know why but it looks slimy | ||
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On June 17 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote: I thought the whole purpose of the self votes was that there were no modkills? I dont know. | ||
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On June 17 2018 02:56 Holyflare wrote: Rels makes this game impossible and it's bull shit. This post is very ridiculous with what happened with the nk and kita actually being mafia though. Dnu what you are saying but if you are scumreading Rels for predicting the future I dont know what to tell you. | ||
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Too many townread him. Maybe in future days. But not now. | ||
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Dude is not performing and I would prefer to see some clashes between mocsta/you tbh | ||
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Kelsier/iamp/Slendy. I go glance filters. | ||
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On June 15 2018 15:39 KelsierSC wrote: Koshi is a good lynch but fuba is still good. I don't really put any substance into claims or fake claims. He voted imperfect and didn't seem to be posting much. I'll just wait to see what happens. I'll vote Koshi for now This actually sounds townie. Like... If you are mafia you would know it is true and just accept it. This guy doesn't. | ||
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Option A: 11 Vanilla vs 3 Vanilla Option B: 1-shot Doctor, 10 Vanilla vs 3 Vanilla Option C: 1-shot Tracker, 10 Vanilla vs 3 Vanilla Option D: 1-shot Delayed Cop, 10 Vanilla vs 3 Vanilla oh lol. I just read the setup. Fuck. Funny. | ||
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Anyway.. fuba still did it quite townie. | ||
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On June 12 2018 08:34 TheSlenderMan wrote: Gun to my head I'd say rayn's Town but I'm not feeling confident about him yet. I can actually see why Palmar would be legit convinced that rayn's start was a scum one. I also want to mention that the possibility of a kitaman-rayn Scum-duo is something my gut finds plausible. Alas, been nursing a fairly epic hangover so it's not just rayn I "don't feel confident about" after the first readthrough. I see a lot of interactions that SEEM like they should help PoE possible Scummiosi. OTOH, I have the recollection that over here players tend to be very aggressive bussers? Regardless of that, many of the questions I have will have clearer answers to them after a more sober re-read and some real-time D2 discussion. Some brief random thoughts: the way Rels talked about rayn in the in-and-out-of-the-Thread -post actually makes me suspect he's Town. rayn is the person I'd assume busyTown!Rels to "sheep" like that. Fuba's tone during N1 makes him the person I'd Vote right now if I wasn't feeling too damn tired to open the official Vote-thread. Couldn't remember a single post by Superbia as I saw the PC-post so that probably means the Scummiosi are Power Role -hunting. iamperfection hasn't been posting much but the lack of the luster rings Town to me. Holyflare I like as Town. Grackaroni, Mocksta, Koshi and kitaman are players who trouble me moreso than the ones not mentioned. Dnu but this line looks bad. Why is Rels not mafia faking that? I don't know. Feels like a TMI read maybe. Especially if he doesn't know Rels. | ||
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On June 17 2018 06:12 Rels wrote: HF / iamp. It makes perfect sense. From the people playing the game I would agree. But you don't think there is a chance last 2 mafia are just afk? | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:49 TheSlenderMan wrote: Feeling better about Mocsta after some of the early D2-posts. Tubesock OTOH seemed a bit weird during their discussion. Feeling better about rayn after his words on HF. Not for the content, I'm not able to judge HF's meta or standing here, but the way they are spoken sounds like Town!rayn. Is there a reason no one is interested in Lynching fuba? Haven't read all of D2 but this is stuff I wanted to say rn. End of day is in 70minutes, not 10 minutes, right? This question is also pretty mafia. Like pretending to be the noob asking a stupid question like that. It comes more from mafia then town. | ||
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On June 17 2018 06:17 Holyflare wrote: I agree with your slender/rels thing but not the above. That's kind of just a question. Ver once "caught" me in a summary because I asked a question like that. But maybe you are right. It just pings me. It was the assassin game I won I think. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:11 TheSlenderMan wrote: Nah I had no need to Vote kita in that situation when he wasn't about to get Lynched yet. As Mafia I wouldn't have even needed to "suspect" him. On June 14 2018 08:23 TheSlenderMan wrote: Yes, rayn, I haven't been around. So my posts have been brief and underwhelming. And as Mafia I wouldn't need to come to the conclusion after reading kita's filter that I need to voice suspicion towards him. I'm not talking about the post two days ago, I'm talking about the catching up I just tried to do. Mafia!iamp makes Mafia!Slendy possible, I suppose. But atleast be a darling and don't do to me what Holyflare did to you at the start of D1, mmkay? Or else I'll continue to use mocking smileys and disparaging phrasing. Milking the kita kred as soon as he gets pressured. Feels bad man. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:44 TheSlenderMan wrote: Wrt my N1-post and others, clearly I've been missing and misreading a LOT of things. Like missing the kita/rayn interaction D1 and later missing that fuba had claimed Tracker. Holyflare COULD be Mafia by the simple virtue of clearly being a very strong player (and by virtue of that very last minute Vote) but I doubt it. If my understanding of the Thread is correct, it feels to me like you, rayn, are letting your emotions affect your HF-stance a bit. You didn't clarify to him about your weekend until just a few moments ago. And, like I said earlier, coming in to the Thread I could completely understand why Palmar (who I haven't played with but have read games from) would find your [rayn's] entrance to the Thread suspicious, even though it wasn't ACTUALLY a legitimate reason for suspicion. I've done the same mistake in earlier games when I didn't realize it was a null-tell. iamp's end-of-D2 seemed awkward and I think I'll need to reread the whole thing again before saying anything other than "it's possible" [that he's Mafia]. But still would, gun to my head, say that he isn't Mafia. Tubesock hasn't convinced me but I haven't read his whole filter. His discussion start-of-D2 with Mocksa seemed weird for him. (And seemed very good for Mocksa, who has continued to seem very Town-like since then, for the record.) Grack has disappeared, both from the pages I've read and from my mind. IIRC he's voiced some suspicions towards kita and also Koshi that make him look better. But I still remember his D1 posts rubbing me the wrong way. This also reads like TMI. That entire paragraph seems fishy as fuck. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:21 TheSlenderMan wrote: Holyflare -- D1 you say this: "Tells people to stop trolling, presumably to instead play the game but then does nothing whatsoever to actually contribute. Then comes back 12 hours later to say nothing and afk and only just say palmar's read is weird. plz lynch ##vote raynpelikoneet team is probably rayn/koshi " How is your own D1 any better by your own standards, before you start commenting on fuba? This was the only thing before that last quote. So he never really townread HF before making that statement to rayn. | ||
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On June 15 2018 08:17 TheSlenderMan wrote: Was hoping rayn would've had time for a long post before PC. Oh well. Going to go Vote Tubesock in the Vote-thread now. Here's the case: This is the post I paraphrased earlier thusly: "I've decided to sheep HF this game. I want to make a remark about Grack's EoD1 but I have TMI so I point out that what he did isn't OBJECTIVELY Scummy, so I won't pursue what should be a subjectively interesting possibility [for me] of finding Mafia. I end the post mentioning one of my Scumbuddies in an off-handed joke." The next moment you elaborate on Grack, you change your mind about what formed the basis of your earlier read? This post also looks pretty bad. There's the soft-defending of kitaman, for one thing. But there's also the fact that you have "decided" to suspect iamperfection, while Mocsta's the person you've paid more attention to. Not just by your own direct admission, but also because you say you've liked HF's content, and you went out of your separate way to mention Mocsta in your first catch-up and reads -post. When it comes to your iamperfection-suspicion, you remain passive aggressive. You don't pursue it, you don't ask questions. Instead you just keep pointing out that it's a thing and it should be a thing for the rest of us as well -- but your Vote just kind of ends up remaining there until the very end of the Phase. Even though a LOT happened in the mean time. And then you weren't around to help save kitaman EoD2. And your posts since the flip have been one-liners. And the soft-defending of kitaman I mentioned earlier also happened in all of your other comments regarding him. This case is also pushing the limits. 1) Tubesock comment about Kita is not clear mafia on mafia. Could just be town being wrong. 2) The Grack quote is actually a pretty good post by Tube tbh. Also. Slender his second point in the case is a quite open question to Tube... 3) Again. I think that quote looks actually pretty ok. Pressure on Mocsta. Pressure on iamp. And yes Tube is wrong on Kita but that can just be a mistake. Pushing that twice in the thread while going aginst Mocsta seems more likely town being wrong than mafia pushing an idea. | ||
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If Slender is an ok player. Then he is mafia. If he is a bit of a new wonky player. I could maybe see him be town | ||
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His read on Rels is beyond Godlike if it is true. Rels popping in sheeping rayn a bit is clear town. How he says rayn is getting too emotional towards HF and not seeing clear is a pretty nice read in case HF is town. His case on Tube is sloppy as fuck and reaching pretty fucking far. | ||
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I don't want to vote Kelsier (due to that new thing I found) I prefer to sit with Grack and Mocsta and lose HF (sheeping 3 townreads, 1 died) than let Kelsier get lynched. And if you die HF I know your Mocsta read is legit. Even though I somewhat think you are town but w.e. I was wrong last time as well. | ||
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On June 17 2018 06:35 Rels wrote: maybe. Can't find why I thought he was town. Do you think it's impossible HF / Slender are scum together based on your post above ? Cause I would always lynch HF over Slend there. I wont. Kill useless players first. Let HF play the game. He deserves it. I don't see HF be mafia. But I might be wrong and am willing to vote with town. | ||
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I still see iamp be mafia with a lot of people. | ||
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Couple lines is fine. I always reread those and take them into consideration. | ||
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So life is still good. | ||
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But you need the brigade to vote Slendy. | ||
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On June 17 2018 07:43 Grackaroni wrote: How confident are you in Mocsta town? I scumread him till rayn told me I was bad and I accepted that fact. | ||
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On June 11 2018 04:45 Koshi wrote: I also did think for a second fuba was different from last game when I was skimming. I don't think this makes fuba mafia or town. But it makes HF townie. First official Koshi read: HF On June 12 2018 19:59 Koshi wrote: I think from all players i like mocsta the least. Mafia wise I mean ofc Really does almost nothing On June 14 2018 01:18 Koshi wrote: I'll do some effort. I am at a pc since a long time and why the fuck not. And if I am lynched I can shrug and live with the fact the townies on me had information to decide correctly. 1. Holyflare Town - I said why 4. raynpelikoneet Can't read his posts because they are boring as fuck. 5. fuba Blue claim and will believe it. Dumb as fuck claim unless he was going to get lynched and I think he might be so ok for me. 6. kitaman27 Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence. I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia. Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol. 7. Tubesock See my earlier townread on him. It was explained. Then this post: Let's just lynch Mocsta and if he is mafia we have some confirmed townies and can be happy. 8. Mocsta Really Mocsta. No offense. I like you. Also you think I am mafia so in the rare case you are town just see this as a mafia annoying you trying to tilt you. If Mocsta is town, he is (more likely) extremely wrong this game. (kita is not mafia, I am not mafia) If Mocsta is town, he is boring as fuck to read. Really fucking boring posts imo. If Mocsta is town, he bickers with people (ex. Tube) and not doing a lot of working together with people to solve the game. If Mocsta is town, he is super m33k towards HF and rayn and again he is not making posts towards them that look townie. He is not trying to push his will on them, just greasing them or something. It's dirty. And all in all I don't believe Mocsta scumreads kita but is just mafia defending against with OMGUS. 10. Rels Should have killed this shitter D1 like I told you. Still looks like horseshit even if iamp is mafia or rayn town or w.e he said in his little post is true. Lynch this fucker. 11. KelsierSC More trash for the trashcan 12. iamperfection He is mafia more likely. I would lynch him over Rels and Kelsier. Because the other 2 are more likely to be trash and town than iamp. 13. Grackaroni Could be mafia taking the backseat adjusting his reads correctly when sentiment shifts. So could be dangerous mafia. But we probably can't lynch him till the trash is taken out. Also haven't reread his filter. 14. TheSlenderMan Trash for the trashcan. | ||
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On June 17 2018 07:47 TheSlenderMan wrote: Wait what, Tubesock, how did you unvoting just now "help HF to not get Lynched"? The wagon you were on is the only established one that could've formed a counterwagon! No Kelsier is a bad lynch and you should know that. | ||
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On June 15 2018 03:27 TheSlenderMan wrote: KelsierSC -- could be Mafia, sure. No real way to know what happened with the progression of reads on kitaman and fuba. But I wouldn't want to Lynch D3. I would assume Mafia to be more aware of what's going on, wrt fuba's claim for instance. fuba -- his filter checks out, I'm buying the claim. The weirdness of the tone I noticed earlier (and which troubled me start-of-D2) is also perfectly well explained by a Power-role eager to get to do something behind the scenes. D1 final Vote Tally -- the only outlier Votes from the two main wagons (Palmar and rayn) were me and Tubesock (afk) and Koshi. Nothing real to be gained from this information, as the two main wagons were 99% likely to just give Mafia free hands to Vote however the hell they want. Holyflare -- has called people out on the right stuff. Been able to follow his posts from a game-solving perspective. Don't feel like there's real evidence to suggest tinfoiling -- as Mafia the last minute consideration and re-consideration of the D2-Vote was simply unnecessary. In a situation where, for instance, I myself could've been last-hour wagoned with no one looking too bad for it. Tubesock -- I still find the filter suspicious. #240, which is basically the start of his playing, is "I've decided to sheep HF this game. I want to make a remark about Grack's EoD1 but I have TMI so I point out that what he did isn't OBJECTIVELY Scummy, so I won't pursue what should be a subjectively interesting possibility [for me] of finding Mafia. I end the post mentioning one of my Scumbuddies in an off-handed joke." Later, towards the End of D2 (posts #270 and #401), this has changed to "to all you who have played with Grack more, you should also know that Grack being self-aware of his D1-Vote this way should ring some alarm bells". This doesn't actually match with #240. In that post Grack was supposed to be suspicious ONLY if rayn was Mafia as well. The progression of the iamp-suspicion ("implicated by the Night Kill") is lazy in a non-Town way. Especially since it's immediately followed up by "oh yeah I could Vote you too [Mocsta] based on this, but I kind of forgot even though you're one of the few people I separately mentioned earlier". Also a lot of soft-defending of kitaman. Overall, there's the same kind of "detached" tone that caught my eye with kitaman's filter as well. A tone that doesn't have the writer's heart in trying to actually solve the game, instead just "dancing around" the things happening in the Thread. Need some food now so will continue vomiting out my thoughts in an hour or so. Another godlike townread. I actually like this read because I made it myself. lol | ||
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On June 17 2018 07:51 Rels wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote iamperfection choo choo | ||
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On June 14 2018 01:41 Koshi wrote: Kita/rayn/HF/Tube Mocsta, iamp I will do this for now. If you don't vote in the reds just vote me lol. Because I won't show more commitment towards this game than I just did. Also. If you fucks would read filters you would see how many people have issues with Mocsta. It's incredible actually. If it is Mocsta I can be super duper cocky and rude next game because I am awesome after all. | ||
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On June 17 2018 08:09 TheSlenderMan wrote: Rels, I would've always found an excuse to Vote iamp over kita D2 if I was the third one. That being said. If you filter on "iamp" in your filter there aren't many pretty post. | ||
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On June 17 2018 08:12 Rels wrote: if it's Slender same thing right, just gotta call every player scum at some point and you can brag about it afterwards p: I get some cookies then as well. But if it is Mocsta... If it is Mocsta I am just super mega talented. | ||
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On June 17 2018 19:27 Mocsta wrote: Im still on p40 Sup Can i get a quick summary Cant believe this exploded in 1 day We sang kumbaya together and lynched mafia. | ||
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On June 17 2018 21:25 Koshi wrote: If Mocsta is mafia my reads were sooooo good. Way better than rayn. But I must thank him for getting me out of Kitas pocket. | ||
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Just bamboozled by the amount of words he typed and too lazy to read them. | ||
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Pls gieb endgame. | ||
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And I never kill Superbia lol. | ||
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6 vs 1 ml 5 vs 1 nk 4 vs 1 ml 3 vs 1 nk lylo | ||
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holy fuck is this for real. | ||
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Damn we did well. Slow as fuck game with a lot of lynchbaits but we pulled it together quite nicely. | ||
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On June 14 2018 01:41 Koshi wrote: Kita/rayn/HF/Tube Mocsta, iamp I will do this for now. If you don't vote in the reds just vote me lol. Because I won't show more commitment towards this game than I just did. Also. If you fucks would read filters you would see how many people have issues with Mocsta. It's incredible actually. Quoted for the 18723th time because rayn really needs to see this. Koshi reads > rayn reads I failed on Kita but he bamboozled me with effort. Even though couple minutes before this list I made this post and I should have changed my read a bit due it but really. So much effort is cheating as mafia: + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2018 01:36 Koshi wrote: This is weak Kita. Why isn't this town!rayn just doing things because he is town and he can do things? Maybe his thought process simply isn't in the thread. The epiphany doesn't make rayn mafia, unless you can proof mafia motivation, it might just be town rayn seeing something and feeling something click in his head that made Grack town. The part about him attacking you I don't remember from thread but not justifying yourself towards a townie and just go blatant offense sounds actually townie. That's what townies do and mafia don't do. Mafia do it when theyy are really cornered and it is their last hope. | ||
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I remember it happening before. | ||
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