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On September 08 2018 03:23 Vivax wrote: I don't see how anyone could think that kaley is anything but a smurf. why ? | ||
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On September 08 2018 13:45 Sergiovan wrote: People who know holyflare: is this behavior possible from a town HF? That is, is he bad enough to do nothing day one besides avoid a modkill but also be town aligned. Yes | ||
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On September 08 2018 21:07 Koshi wrote: hahahaha only 10 hours left. Goddamn. Can we agree on making this day 96 hours or something? Like... TL mafia is not great anymore. Like D1 96 hours. Rest same. TBH I like this idea a lot | ||
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On September 08 2018 21:30 Holyflare wrote: I am town though. I don't think Kaley is mafia purely because they are just fighting back at Rayn being a dick. Sergio's posts look scummy because they are finding reasons out of nothing. Irrationally angry at me making one post that said nothing and laying out all the "options" seem feigned. Will try and post more. on the contrary, I think it makes him very town | ||
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rayn Koshi and KSC look town too I want to lynch Kaley | ||
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On September 09 2018 03:02 Qatol wrote: Getting back to the game, I will say that I am nervous that there hasn't been more pushback regarding Kaley, both by the player themselves and by others. Usually lynching mafia day 1 is like pulling teeth. That hasn't been the experience so far. Plus, we're getting posts like this: Rels, why is Sergio almost a lock? Why do you want to lynch Kaley? Considering there was 30 minutes between your "yo" post and your vote, I'm confused as to why you didn't say more. During those 30 minutes I read the game. Sergio's angryness makes no sense as scum in my opinion. Kaley has chosen to play in a way that makes her very hard to read. Fair enough. But when pushed for it, she doubled down and did it more strongly. I can see this strategy coming more from scum (kinda like "they wouldn't believe scum would continue roleplaying in my position"). Could also come from stubborn town but for now she's the more likely to flip scum. | ||
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On September 12 2018 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think prpkhz is mafia, he said something that sounded really townie what was it ? | ||
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On September 12 2018 00:24 Qatol wrote: I was ~90% sure he was from post #76 (though not which role). He didn't seem the type to frequently get lynched day 1, which would be the only other reason I could see for him to get that nervous about getting lynched that early. I don't see how anyone would see this Koshi post as him being blue unless they were bluehunting. (even bluehunting, I don't how anyone could think Koshi was 90% blue from that post, but that's besides the point) | ||
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On September 12 2018 07:19 Sergiovan wrote: Rels: your thoughts on my Vivax case. Who is scummier to you Vivax or Damdred? Qatol is the scummier. :p I think Vivax is town and I have no read on Damdred. Qatol just feels wrong, very logical, as if he's following a plan. He defend himself too much compared to his position in the thread. The NK would also makes sense. More things I don't like: - his Kaley's vote, when he's attacking at the same time the wagon on Kaley, while justifying keeping his vote in it: On September 09 2018 03:02 Qatol wrote: Getting back to the game, I will say that I am nervous that there hasn't been more pushback regarding Kaley, both by the player themselves and by others. Usually lynching mafia day 1 is like pulling teeth. That hasn't been the experience so far. Plus, we're getting posts like this: Rels, why is Sergio almost a lock? Why do you want to lynch Kaley? Considering there was 30 minutes between your "yo" post and your vote, I'm confused as to why you didn't say more. However, the thing that is most perplexing about the situation is Kaley's insistence on staying in character and getting in a flamewar with rayn rather than providing any real analysis. Kaley, you're spending the time to put together semi-rhymes. Why not at least point to the words rayn has posted that are making you push for him so hard? From what I can tell, your original read came from him stating that he would policy lynch people who posted rp/ms paint. He hadn't even said anything about you before you started trying to aggravate him. As I have mentioned repeatedly, you really haven't posted anything that helps the town. Instead, your posts have been inflammatory and disruptive. As a result, I feel obligated to leave my vote on you. - is looking for blues as VT, which is an unusual mindset: On September 12 2018 00:24 Qatol wrote: I was ~90% sure he was from post #76 (though not which role). He didn't seem the type to frequently get lynched day 1, which would be the only other reason I could see for him to get that nervous about getting lynched that early. It's why my strategy with him was to basically tell the thread "look at him later, but he might be suspicious." Looking back at it, posts 246 and 252 were pretty clear requests for our blessing on how he was using his vigi hit. I think there's a chance the mafia could have caught on. -he's voting Vivax, but is ready to be convinced by a case on KSC: On September 11 2018 23:47 Qatol wrote: Make a good case for it and I'll probably back you. That last post doesn't sit so well with me. I'll look and see if I see anything redeeming in his filter. | ||
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On September 12 2018 04:09 Sergiovan wrote: In post #89 Vivax explains a town read on Kaley that comes mostly “from the gut” while also trying to give real reasoning for it I.e. that Kaley is attacking Rayn. But in post #119 Vivax says that he isn’t sure if Kaley is genuinely pushing Rayn and that he hasn’t read her full post. Therefore the alignment read that Vivax had on Kaley didn’t come from an actual read but was instead manufactured by Vivax Yeah. Meh. Don't see how him admitting he hasn't read her full post makes his quick gut read not possible. | ||
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On September 08 2018 00:25 Koshi wrote: I am sorry that I appear to you like that. Please dont lynch me. You look very town. And thinking: "mm yeah this person is 90% blue" And THEN making this post: On September 08 2018 15:42 Qatol wrote: I agree that Koshi isn't really contributing very seriously and he should be looked at as a more serious lynch candidate in the near future. His posts generally are not helping the town, with the possible exception of his halfhearted stabs at me, which at least potentially foster discussion. However, I don't agree with calling him scummy for not posting his town reads, at least if those townies are not under threat of lynch and he himself is not about to die. Oh yeah. Really 90% sure Koshi was town at that point. | ||
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On September 10 2018 23:31 Qatol wrote: 1. They might have figured out that Koshi was blue. He kinda gave it away with this post: Specifically, he was unnaturally nervous about being lynched day 1. This screams blue. He didn't "give it away" since ... he wasn't blue! Odd choice of words I think. Unless you come frm the perspective of being sure that Koshi would flip blue. | ||
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On September 08 2018 21:06 Koshi wrote: Qatol Qatol Qatol. Potentially you are just a friendly guy. I don't trust friendly guys. Friendly. Slimy. Friendly. Pocketing. Who knows who knows. Yep. | ||
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On September 12 2018 07:46 Sergiovan wrote: Rels in #396 what do you mean by “he didn’t give it away since he wasn’t Blue?” Koshi was blue oh you're right. Dunno why I thought he wasn't blue | ||
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On September 12 2018 07:47 Qatol wrote: Who said anything about blue hunting? If you don't see blue out of the three posts I pointed out, you aren't reading closely enough. And if TL has changed so much that being nice is cause for mistrust, then that's just sad. I'm saying I don't see how anyone could think Koshi is 90%blue from the post you pointed out unless they were looking for it. Which VTs usually don't | ||
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On September 12 2018 07:50 Qatol wrote: Or because I was reading the thread? I still don't see how you don't see it. This isn't rocket science. On September 08 2018 00:25 Koshi wrote: I am sorry that I appear to you like that. Please dont lynch me. You look very town. This post is so obviously sarcastic so you mistaking it for being "unnaturally nervous about being lynched day 1" is making you extremely likely scum in my mind. | ||
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or maybe you really caught him with his posts asking for advice during the night but that post is not a blueslip, and no VT would think it is | ||
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On September 12 2018 07:51 Qatol wrote: Is anyone else active right now? I'm still not comfortable lynching damdred. I still think this is basically a policy lynch and the math isn't in support of it. this I agree. I mean, it's possible he flips scum. It's possible he doesn't. | ||
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On September 12 2018 08:00 Qatol wrote: I didn't say that. Find the post and I'll explain my thought process. On September 12 2018 00:24 Qatol wrote: I was ~90% sure he was from post #76 (though not which role). He didn't seem the type to frequently get lynched day 1, which would be the only other reason I could see for him to get that nervous about getting lynched that early. | ||
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On September 12 2018 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i somehow thought this is an open setup. I havent read the op for a week except for now. I am never lynching vivax now anyways, it is way more likely he was just roleblocked because he wasnt exactly under heavy fire when he claimed roleblocked. kinda cheesy, but almost lock town right there for that. As far as I know rayn don't dumbtell as scum | ||
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On September 15 2018 06:58 prplhz wrote: Who is scum and murderable? no idea I'm very disconnected from this game. I wanted to murder Qatol when I read the game at the end of D2 but now I'm not sure since. Trying to quick read my way up to date | ||
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On September 13 2018 08:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is absolutely terrible lmao Also I have been roleblocked. weird roleblock. If I was the scumteam I wouldn't roleblock anyone and I would claim roleblock. | ||
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On September 15 2018 01:51 Qatol wrote: Okay, I am back, and am incredibly disappointed with what I'm seeing (i.e., no real focus). Let me make this simple, because the town really only has 3 options: 1) Support Meapak's read of Rels 2) Convince Meapak and every other townie to vote for someone else 3) Vote for me Considering the level of activity in the thread, #2 is extremely unlikely. Here's something else that should help on this point: I won't support a lynch of rayn. His actions on day 3 don't make sense for mafia. I'll explain more in a follow-up post in a moment. As far as #3 goes, if you honestly believe the arguments being made, then, by all means vote me. But, I cannot emphasize this enough, read the arguments. Don't just focus on the fact that so-and-so "accused me." This is lazy, bad play. If, after reading everything, you still feel like I'm mafia (and then you probably need to reevaluate how you read people after the game), then, by all means. At least you approached things with the right mindset, even if you reached the wrong conclusion. Anything less is giving the game to the mafia. Hopefully you will rule out #3 as an option as well. That means the town's only chance is a vote for Rels. I hate how lectury you've been all game. Reeks of scum. Qatol / MZ / ??? | ||
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On September 13 2018 23:34 KelsierSC wrote: @Qatol 3 confirmed towns have all called you mafia, hf and koshi are also good players worth listening to. No one is listening or using logic so not much point posting. lets vote rels because some guy who wasn't here for 2 days posted a bunch of nonsense. Rels is basically an AFK tbh so its bad you want to risk the whole game on that. I'm not going to convince you that you're mafia but until people want to engage their brain and play the game a little then we just lose. 'cause I find this post really townie in a world when he can let me die | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah and you can definitely be mafia with him so why would i fucking care? 'cause I'm not mafia. This game would be very EZ if I was scum TBH. Just be active and win | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: so yo uare inactive BECAUSE you are town? I'm inactive because when I got home all week I couldn't do anything but eat then sleep. And I couldn't play at work. Would have had the same problems as scum but it's easy to write BS as scum | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:12 Qatol wrote: I wouldn't be if people would read or realize some of this stuff on their own. Instead, if you haven't noticed, even despite this post, we have a completely split up vote. And why does it reek of scum? Please share. Is anything there wrong? Is anything there anti-town? yep. The number of posts you dedicated to this subject. Makes you active without doing anything | ||
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yeah that isn't gonna convince anyone I suppose. But it's probably true | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: you do what you can with the time you have, scum or town. you are claiming you would have -- as mafia -- come here and feed some "bullshit", but as town you didn't care enough to even share your opinion on those times? I never had any opinion to share | ||
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yeah and after this day I didn't have the time to play until the end of D2 | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: why did you say it never happened? after the dude that I felt was most likely to flip scum flip town at the end of D1, I didn't read anything until the end of D2, and thus didn't have any updated opinion to share | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you think i make a case that does not fact check even if i am mafia? nope. You can miss stuff though | ||
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kinda weird given KSC's attack on Qatol at some point. But possible | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: It puts too much pressure on him otherwise so its an unlikely fake claim. completely disagree. Unless scums are dumb | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:47 Qatol wrote: And there's the nail in the coffin. This is incredibly unlikely. And you just talked about how suspicious you were about RoL. Thanks for making me feel better about my vote. it is actually not, it could be a weak one-way bus. You could have easily attack him yet didn't and I said ROL was a coinflip, nothing he did was scummy, only a lack of activity | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:50 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: because im pretty sure rayn is scum and if he's doing something I imagine it's not in towns interest. You are more process of elimination than me actually having a case on you tbh. lol well I can't do anything to change that p: | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:51 Qatol wrote: Koshi said I'm too friendly and deconstructed one of my posts. That's it. At least get your story straight if you're going to make comments like this. haha how can anyone else not see how suspicious these side remarks are is beyond me | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: You realize what it means, Kelsier voting off wagon? that means nothing unless his vote was required for him to survive | ||
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On September 15 2018 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would a townie ever do that? no time to play | ||
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