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Now, now, we shouldn't lynch Dr.Dragoon the first chance we get. Unless he's a mafia. But we should probably be nice and let him live for a day or two.
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==edit== Now, now, we shouldn't lynch Dr.Dragoon the first chance we get. Unless he's a mafia. But we should probably be nice and let him live for a day or two. | ||
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On March 15 2008 15:01 Dapperdan wrote: You guys are going to definitely burn yourselves out very quickly if you start this ranting nonsense before the game even starts. He doesn't believe in us. I think he's mafia | ||
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On March 17 2008 05:22 LTT wrote: And in a rare twist, Chuiu decides to make everyone a townie and just kills random people every night. Haha, that would be epic Or maybe he'll put in two competing mafia groups that don't know about each other and laugh at all the confusion. I'm sure it'll be epic =) | ||
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On March 18 2008 10:02 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: so its the next day did everyone confirm? :D Probably not, but I bet most people did, and those are probably people more likely to be active. | ||
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Even with this message, I have no real reason to vote for you. As far as I can tell, this is just a gimmick to get more votes. None of your points are actually very useful. Your first point: 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. Okay, so you spend a lot of time one the computer, and you'll double lynch if we ask it. That's nice. First, you mention that you spend a lot of time at home, and we can only assume you mean the computer. Fair enough, but Mafia is not a game that requires a lot of timing, unless perhaps you are mafia organizing to fix an election. I know you aren't mafia though, because I haven't received my role PM yet, so I assume you haven't either. Also, you mention that you'll use double lynch if the town asks you to. Do you think you're the only one? You were in the last game, you saw how quickly we turned on FakeSteve. Even then, he had used double lynches whenever we asked him, and he still got lynched. I seriously doubt there'll be any mayor that won't use a doubly lynch if the town demands it. Governments should be afraid of their people. Your next point: 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) Okay, I've already covered that. You're hardly unique there, any mayor we elect will double lynch if the town asks. 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. That's quite nice of you, but it's hardly unique to mayors. Many townies can, and do, analyze clues and post, regardless of the consequences. Furthermore, if as mayor you do your own analysis, you are likely to be biased in favor of your own conclusions. If you instead weigh all conclusions equally, you can use your extra votes more fairly. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. I call BS. I have no reason to believe that this is an individual PM, hand-crafted for me alone. Your PM is perfect for mailing to a lot of people; it has no specific details, and the 'wisdom' contained is simple enough for anybody to understand. If you really want to show that you care, you have to acknowledge the individual recipient of the PM. For example, I was a paramedic in the last game, and yet you did not mention this to me at all. If you had, it would have been a more tangible human connection than the rest of this PM. By not saying this, I can judge one of two things; this is a stock PM, sent out to every single person on the TL mafia list, or that you did not pay any attention last game. TLers are not, in general, stupid. Most of us, I would hope, can see through this kind of thing very easily. By sending this PM, you demean us (without meaning to, I'll admit that), and don't show any respect for the individual. A good politician can make his constituency think he cares about each of them individually. You have a long way to go yet. Still, props for trying, it's nice that you've made the effort. I might vote for you. Or, I might not, you'll know in a few days. + Show Spoiler [Original Message] + ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice. 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. Thanks, randombum | ||
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On March 18 2008 12:09 Falcynn wrote: I nominate randombum for mayor! Ahahahahha, my least favorite 4chan meme finds it's way to TL mafia >_< Also to randombum: You do get points for trying, I appreciate the effort. The PM needs work though. You could try such tried-and-true lines from the politicians like "I am not a crook", or "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" | ||
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On March 18 2008 14:45 ShadowDrgn wrote: Are the Saboteur and Suicide Bomber included in the 20 mafia, or are there actually 22 mafia total? Do those two roles get to participate as normal in the mafia, and are the mafia aware of their roles? They are included in the mafia (there are 130 people total, 110 town + 20 mafia = 130). I would assume that the mafia know their roles, and they do participate normally in the mafia. | ||
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On March 18 2008 15:52 SonuvBob wrote: I'll vote for anyone who posts all 130 sigs and profiles. Randombum, here's your chance to use your power of Too Much Free Time! Someone already did, but he made them links, so that the post wasn't too long and unwieldy. In fact, it was Chuiu in the OP | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [List of names] + 1. ShaLLoW[baY] 2. SoMuchBetter 3. Eti307 4. HotZhot 5. Caller 6. clazziquai 7. Dr.Dragoon 9. So no fek 10. Fen 11. ieatkids5 12. Wizard 13. dinmsab 14. imDerek 15. Hittegods 16. Puosu 17. randombum 18. Yogurt 19. ulszz 20. goldenkrnboi 21. Alethios 22. infinity21 23. Falcynn 24. Alventenie 25. Empyrean 26. Fishball 27. nemY 28. ZBiR 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY 30. JeeJee 31. Energies 32. wurm 33. Amber[LighT] 34. RtS)Night[Mare 35. Vharox 36. Unforgiven_ve 37. fgsvsd 38. KF91 39. Romance_us 40. MasterOfChaos 41. LTT 42. SonuvBob 43. NatsuTerran 44. str 45. smurfingchobo 46. aZnvaLiaNce 47. Kuja900 48. qrs 49. GranDim 50. Artanis[Xp] 51. araav 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM 53. Ace 54. MTF 55. MoRe_mInErAls 56. Camlito 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS 58. Lysithea 59. fanatacist 60. SoleSteeler 61. French_Toast 62. BlindAlbino 63. HeRoS)Pink 64. KorvspaD 65. Mandalor 66. fusionsdf 67. 0cz3c 68. New104 69. LucasWoJ 70. Bockit 71. GeneralStan 72. Ziel 73. Hollander 74. Supah 75. bumatlarge 76. jtan 77. BloodyC0bbler 78. BWdero 79. AcrossFiveJulys 80. Siefu 81. Mynock 82. Ninja4ever. 83. Chezinu 84. JoxxOr 85. ahrara_ 86. Queasy 87. Pangolin 88. Naib 89. butidigress 90. ~OpZ~ 91. Scorch 92. Jimtudor 93. spoinka 94. unsoundlogic 95. OneBlueAugust 96. TranceStorm 97. suresh0t 98. decafchicken 99. DamageControL 100. omfghi2u2 101. RowdierBob 102. Meta 103. SpiritoftheTuna 104. AmorVincitOmnia 105. Wysp 106. BuGzlToOnl 107. GrayArea 108. xDark.Carnivalx 109. MidnightGladius 110. crazie-penguin 111. CTStalker 112. {88}iNcontroL 113. DTDominion 114. zeks 115. useLess 116. Last Romantic 117. d.arkive 118. Plexa 119. G.s)NarutO 120. Evilmonkey. 121. NeaX 122. Showtime! 123. Klive5ive 124. Lenwe 125. Kau 126. Ghar 127. L 128. KH1031 129. ShadowDrgn 130. rpf | ||
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fusionsdf--I don't know if he's a mafia or not, it's too early to tell. He did announce his candidacy before the game ever began though, so he probably enjoys the game a lot. In his favor, he apparently rightly guessed a lot of mafioso from game one. However, the catch is that he did it with Plexa. Small though the chance may be, this might be during time that Plexa would have otherwise devoted to writing TLFE's. Can we take that chance? Meh: His candidacy might be a joke, he seems to have zero votes, but it was a pretty good argument randombum: I kind of liked his mass PM, it showed effort. I'm not so sure about his voting record in game 1 though. He voted half the time, although with 100% accuracy (voted FS for mayor, and voted to lynch mafia the only times he voted). I'm not sure if he'll increase his activity this game, but he seems to have quite the good record for rooting out mafia. SoMuchBetter: Ah, SMB. I didn't trust him at all last game, and he turned out to be a townie. Go figure. Also because of last game, whenever I think of SoMuchBetter, I think of a fat guy in a purple suit with a monocle. Last game, he kind of disappeared off the radar after failing his mayoral campaign, but that was probably because he didn't get elected. He also sent out mass PM's, with MSpaint in them (also before the role PM's), but he was pretty much copying randombum in them. Ghar: He posted an MS paint image, but not much else. He's an unknown here, as he registered and his first post was in the mafia thread (maybe all of his posts are in the mafia thread) SunuvBob: After asking around a bit, he decided to run for mayor. I guess this shows that he isn't afraid of a bit of work looking through profiles, but at first he was asking others to do it for him. In his favor, he is a mod--I assume that he has methods of searching at his disposal that we do not (can you search for posts by a certain person? I don't know how). His platform is also excellent. araav: He has a fairly sensible platform, and he also went the extra mile by making a list of all of 130 profiles. I respect your hard work, but since he didn't play in the first round, I have no voting record to base stuff off of. Kuja900: I'm biased against him, because of his post. To Kuja900: please use punctuation. (These should be posted in the order that they proclaimed their candidacy. The last two on the list actually started their campaign after I started writing this, but before I posted it. Good thing I checked for that before I posted.) My favorites here are: fusionsdf -- he seems to have worked hard at rooting out mafia in game one, and was fairly successful. Props to him, but he did have another guy to bounce ideas off of. What if one person out of the pair winds up mafia, and they still trade ideas? Sure, Plexa publicly supported his nomination, but that could be real, or it could be a trick, we don't know. randombum -- His mass PM showed a bit of effort and initiative, even if it wasn't so well thought out. He also has quite the voting record in game 1, which is a point in his favor. SunuvBob -- I don't know much about him, but he's a mod. If he araav -- The man isn't afraid of doing some hard detective work. Otherwise, still an unknown. I hope that this (opinionated) guide to the candidates helps with your voting. ==edit== Apparently there's more to Ghar than what I wrote down, but I'm going to ignore it for now, because it's 1:00 AM here. | ||
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fusionsdf--I don't know if he's a mafia or not, it's too early to tell. He did announce his candidacy before the game ever began though, so he probably enjoys the game a lot. In his favor, he apparently rightly guessed a lot of mafioso from game one. However, the catch is that he did it with Plexa. Small though the chance may be, this might be during time that Plexa would have otherwise devoted to writing TLFE's. Can we take that chance? Meh: His candidacy might be a joke, he seems to have zero votes, but it was a pretty good argument randombum: I kind of liked his mass PM, it showed effort. I'm not so sure about his voting record in game 1 though. He voted with 100% accuracy (voted FS for mayor, and voted to lynch mafia the only times he voted). He seems to have quite the good record for rooting out mafia. I don't know if he's our number one choice for mayor, but it shows that he's putting some effort into it. SoMuchBetter: Ah, SMB. I didn't trust him at all last game, and he turned out to be a townie. Go figure. Also because of last game, whenever I think of SoMuchBetter, I think of a fat guy in a purple suit with a monocle. Last game, he kind of disappeared off the radar after failing his mayoral campaign, but that was probably because he didn't get elected. He also sent out mass PM's (apparently to like 10 people, rather than 130 though), with MSpaint in them (also before the role PM's), but he was pretty much copying randombum in them. Ghar: So far, all we know about him is that he registered for the forum for the mafia game, and that his plan of action is for all the detectives to PM him. I don't really like this, because the best scenario is a guy who knows who all the detectives are, with the addition of a few mafia. The worst scenario is a mafioso who is willing to sacrifice himself in return for denying the town a mayor and as many detectives as possibile. SunuvBob: After asking around a bit, he decided to run for mayor. I guess this shows that he isn't afraid of a bit of work looking through profiles, but at first he was asking others to do it for him. In his favor, he is a mod--I assume that he has methods of searching at his disposal that we do not (can you search for posts by a certain person? I don't know how). His platform is also excellent. araav: He has a fairly sensible platform, and he also went the extra mile by making a list of all of 130 profiles. I respect your hard work, but since he didn't play in the first round, I have no voting record to base stuff off of. Kuja900: I'm biased against him, because of his post. To Kuja900: please use punctuation. Ace: I missed his candidacy post the first time, but I'm liking his ideas. His bodyguard plan seems pretty damn good, much better than our elder=leader plan last game. His arguments are rational, and I'm liking that. Empyrean: Claims to be a detective, and is trying to force us to vote for him. Is it worth the risk? Why would a real detective come out of the closet so early? I'm distrustful of his early gambit, but if he isn't lying, then we might waste a golden opportunity. I just don't know. I hope that this (opinionated) guide to the candidates helps with your voting. ==edit== Forgot to add Empyrean. Oh, and I voted for Ace, in case you were wondering. | ||
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With age comes wisdom and experience. With luck, he has gained enough experience with age to advance a few levels, making him more powerful, and giving him bonus skill points. Also, with age, your Wis stat increases. This is important, because Wisdom includes intuition, and given the town's track record of analyzing clues, this may be important. Furthermore, WIS effects savings throws and survival checks, and Sense Motive uses Wisdom as it's key ability. All of his stat bonuses have modifiers with age. In his profile, his birthday is listed in 1979. This means he's at about middle age at this point, which means: -1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha As can be seen, you get more intelligent as well as wiser with age, as shown by his coding skills. Most unfortunately, he has -1 to Str, Dex and Con. If the mafia goes after him, this could prove fatal. This informative post brought to you by CDRdude. (RIP Gary Gygax) | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Why there is no flaw] + Okay. In this example, we will have 7 bodyguards, 1 mayor, 20 mafia, and a bunch of other people who aren't important, we can call them townies. If the mayor is mafia, and is smart, he will do this: Send a PM to: Bodyguard 1 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 As far as the legitimate bodyguard can tell, this is legit. The mafia will obviously claim to be bodyguards, and Bodyguard 1 won't know better. Send a PM to: Bodyguard 2 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 Again, the real bodyguard can't tell the difference. PM3: Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 You should be getting the point by now. If you aren't, you probably don't deserve to be mayor. The mafia mayor can do this a total of seven times, so that each bodyguard receives a PM with 6 other people on it. Each of those people insist that they are bodyguards, the real bodyguards won't know the difference, and no real bodyguard will be left out. Since no real bodyguard will be left out, nobody will stand out to say that they didn't receive a PM. This can't last forever, but it can do a lot of damage. One of two things will happen; either a bodyguard will stand out, according to qrs' plan. The other (real) bodyguards will recognize him as not being in their group, and they'll cry out. Confusion ensues, but people will soon realize that the mayor is a mafioso. However, this takes a bit of time, and the mafia gets a good bit of damage in. BUT---once the real situation is discovered, mafia's 1-6 lives are forfeit. Net gain for the town. The mafia could avoid some of this by mixing in more bodyguards to the PM's, but even then it's a loss for the mafia, gain for the town. The other possibility is if no bodyguard stands out (the mayor ignores qrs' plan) and a fake detective proclaims that the mayor is innocent. That's nice. However, that also assumes that no other detective checked on the mayor, which is unlikely to happen. Soon, the truth will come out, and the bodyguards will realize that the others in the message are fakes, and can be lynched/mad hatted/killed during the night/permabanned or whatever. End result: town is ahead. This will be a bit bloody, but about equal numbers of mafia and town will die here, so that's still +town. How to avoid all the mess: Basically, qrs' plan is needed. A bodyguard has to step forward. All the real bodyguards will know whether or not he was included in the PM to them, so you don't have to confirm anything. Of course, that bodyguard will probably be gunned down during the night, but whatever, sucks for him. | ||
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Wow, what are the chances | ||
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On March 19 2008 13:39 ShadowDrgn wrote: Clue: he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed Suspect: CDRdude Reason: Sig mentions lurkers unburrowing, which can "come out of nowhere" and cut armies off. While I appreciate your thoughts on the clues, I disagree with this one. | ||
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On March 19 2008 15:56 HotZhot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2008 15:36 Alethios wrote: On March 19 2008 15:32 HotZhot wrote: I think people running for mayor should state who are they lynching as their first act. It is very important to discuss it because we don't want another FS doing whatever he wants. (although I have to admit it was a lot of lol) I resent that. Why? I voted for FS for the pure roflness of it, the game ended so much more entertaining because of it. He's probably against FS (orr maybe joking) because FS' first act as mayor was to insta-lynch Alethios. I think he's joking, but he has reason to be annoyed. | ||
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On March 19 2008 18:10 ahrara_ wrote: Well, you had my vote initially. Unfortunately, you're the Ralph Nader of this election. If you endorsed randombum, we can keep Empyrean out of office, which I think is important. If you know so much about American politics, why does your profile list you as from Afghanistan? I'm not really sure about Ralph Nader's international prestige, but I really doubt it extends to Afghanistan. And it might not extend to Australia either, which is what Ghar's profile lists. | ||
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March 20 2008 00:08 GMT
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On March 20 2008 09:04 Caller wrote: I have a concern with Ace's plan: suppose that the mayor is townie and all the bodyguards get the right messages then suppose that a mafia false claims that hes a bodyguard. that means we'll end up killing several bodyguards and potentially the mayor for a mafiaso. not a good trade. The thing is, after the Dr.Dragoon incident, we're more likely to first lynch the accuser, and then the accused. It's not profitable for the mafia to fake bodyguard status. | ||
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March 20 2008 00:24 GMT
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March 20 2008 00:31 GMT
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Show nested quote + Also, why is everyone so confident that Ace and randombum are clean? While Ace's plan is pretty good, that shouldn't guarantee his innocence. We're not, Ace is voted because he has a plan of action that will benefit the town even if he were say mafia. Bum is just voted to kick Emp off because of his irrational approach to being elected. I have a concern with Ace's plan: suppose that the mayor is townie and all the bodyguards get the right messages then suppose that a mafia false claims that hes a bodyguard. that means we'll end up killing several bodyguards and potentially the mayor for a mafiaso. not a good trade. If the mayor is innocent, then he'll straight out deny the fake bodyguards, thus we have free mafia to kill without any wasted effort. This is the 3rd times already that im telling you to learn how to make a proper quote. Stop only quoting what a certain person wrote, Leave His NAME. What do you mean? I'm not sure, I think he's talking about Ghar's bad quoting practices though. | ||
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March 20 2008 03:10 GMT
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March 20 2008 03:36 GMT
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March 20 2008 03:39 GMT
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On March 20 2008 12:33 Hittegods wrote: Just let randombum pick the target and let Ace be the mayor from then on, I think he posted that he'd be away for some hours. This is probably the best idea, unless Ace F5's in time to save the day. | ||
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March 20 2008 04:37 GMT
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==edit== Although if he really was inactive, it isn't a big deal. | ||
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March 20 2008 04:41 GMT
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On March 20 2008 13:40 Showtime! wrote: Next time how about you ask before you start wasting your powers? God -_-;; What a waste. I can't really fault him for using his instant lynch. He can only use it when he is elected, so if he didn't use it, he would have missed his chance. Sucks that he hit a mad hatter though. | ||
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March 20 2008 05:37 GMT
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March 20 2008 09:03 GMT
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On March 20 2008 17:52 Alventenie wrote: make a better one then! No thanks, I'll just console iNcontroL | ||
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March 20 2008 21:10 GMT
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Seriously, we should wait a bit longer before PMing Ace, just to be on the safe side. | ||
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March 20 2008 21:22 GMT
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On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote: Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that. Perhaps you didn't see what happened in the last game; it was a worse rape than the OSL finals. The town needs to get it's act together this time, and start making a comeback. Also, the plan isn't that bad. It gives a known townie information, which always helps, and he can use that to reduce the odds of hitting town instead of mafia. | ||
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March 20 2008 21:48 GMT
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On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. First off, it's better not to overestimate ourselves. We'll have some noobs, and some smarter people, there's no stopping that. On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. For your information I have read the thread, and I known this. The list of people's names and sigs has been posted in the thread a long time ago. I also take offense at the implication that I haven't read the posts.[/quote] On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. How do you know we won't need it? I'm not psychic, and I don't think you are either. The mafia can still kill a lot of people every night. On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. A fools-mate basically never happens. It's an example of the fastest possible checkmate. Fools-mate is theorycrafting that requires both sides to try achieve it. This game is already challenging. It's not our job to balance, it's Chuiu and Dapperdan's. Besides--winning is fun. | ||
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March 21 2008 07:41 GMT
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On March 21 2008 15:38 Chuiu wrote: I put extra care and dedication. to every post I make to make sure they are spelling and gramatical correctness Ahaha, Chuiu wins the argument. Well played, Chuiu, well played | ||
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==edit== lol, somebody voted to lynch Dr.Dragoon xD Kuja900. I wonder why. | ||
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March 27 2008 02:50 GMT
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To Ace, is it worth it to declare a double lynch? | ||
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March 27 2008 04:33 GMT
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On March 27 2008 13:25 Showtime! wrote: I think I know who Black is. Really? Then why aren't you posting your guess, with associated reasoning? I understand that you may want to lie low, in case you are right, but this doesn't make any sense. If you want to lie low, you could have simply not posted it, and PMed Ace. Why then, are you posting the fact that you have a guess, but not posting the guess itself? | ||
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March 27 2008 05:46 GMT
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==edit== As randombum says in the vote blog, it probably doesn't count anyway. | ||
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March 27 2008 06:57 GMT
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March 28 2008 04:20 GMT
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March 28 2008 04:24 GMT
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On March 28 2008 13:22 ahrara_ wrote: I wanna clarify that sonuvbob of course has probably not looked through anyone's PMs, I was just using that as a hypothetical. I'm pretty sure that an admin (might have been sunuvbob) posted that they had no power to view PM's. | ||
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March 28 2008 22:31 GMT
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Why I don't like Showtime! A statement by CDRdude First off, I am not unique in my dislike of this man. I don't know Showtime! in real life, so I judge him by what I see of him; Showtime!'s posts on Teamliquid. I am not impressed. From my observation, nearly everyone in this thread detests his ignorant, spiteful, and melodramatic posts. His comments are not intelligent, but designed to provoke antagonism, and petty bickering. In the words of the man himself, "I'm treating this like a IRC channel until you guys make one". That's lovely, why don't you make one yourself? Let's start off with a look at his posting record, separated into categories for your convenience. This is not all of his posts, but many of them. Ignorant posts: There are less of these than the others, Showtime! is more troll than newbie trying to understand the rules. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 13:29 Showtime! wrote: He hasn't voted therefore he is inactive therefore he isn't even in the game anymore considering voting has officially closed. Pick someone else. To put this in context, this is in relation to Ace's instant-lynch of {88}iNcontroL. This is ignorant, because he clearly has either ignored, or not understood the process of selection. On March 20 2008 13:42 Showtime! wrote: The guy didn't even look to see who was active. Dumbest move ever. This is either one of the most ignorant comments Showtime! has made, or it is a troll. Neither is desired. On March 20 2008 13:45 Showtime! wrote: Not only that he didn't even look to see who !@#$%! voted beforehand. He killed someone who wasn't even still in the game = uncool especially with all the damage he could have done. Likewise, this is either supreme ignorance, or a troll. On March 20 2008 14:18 Showtime! wrote: I don't care because I'm a townie like I said before and congratz. The sooner, the better because it would be another waste of a lynch and too be honest I don't think you have much of a prayer. Of course the saboteur would use it on the first night so you wouldn't be able to get one of them. It is basic logic you goof. The fact of the matter is you voted Inc with no ground or basis other than hanging low. If you read the rules you would have known he was already out of the game. Hence a waste, hence you could have used someone else's hunch. And if you had read the rules, you would know that you are only removed from the game after missing two votes in a row. However, I believe this post was made in ignorance, rather than trolling, in spite of it's hostile tone. On March 25 2008 04:25 Showtime! wrote: Perhaps. They might roleblock randombum and attempt to vote you out, no? lol which would be stupid because then we'll know who the mafia is ha! It is almost guaranteed. They will roleblock you again Ace. So 1) we cannot double lynch, 2) kill your voting power. This was made after Ace was roleblocked the previous day, the rules state that you cannot roleblock someone twice in a row. Trolling / antagonistic posts: If you've read very much of the thread, you know what I'm talking about. The norm for Showtime! is belittling others, while lionizing himself (and once in a while, he plays the victim). Other times, his posts are just rude and sarcastic. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 11:10 Showtime! wrote: Emp, you didn't think I knew that already? Of course. You just wanted the POWA. But, yeah I must admit it was stupid of you to come out and confess. Probably not designed to be a troll, but his post here is unnecessarily antagonistic, not to mention arrogant. On March 20 2008 13:40 Showtime! wrote: Next time how about you ask before you start wasting your powers? God -_-;; What a waste. In response to Ace's instant-lynch of {88}iNcontroL. On March 20 2008 13:47 Showtime! wrote: I read all your lousy posts. Like I said I know of 5 people who would have been better. PM me. This is directly after his whining about Ace's selection of instant-lynch (whining because he lynched an inactive). This excellently showcases Showtime!'s arrogance, ignorance, and desire for attention. On March 20 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote: Yeah because active people are more likely to be mafia let alone pissed off when their mayor votes out someone who wasn't even playing the damn game. Wake up people! On top of that why would I want the mafia to know whether or not I am on the right track in the first place? That is really smart. While his comment is reasonable, his sarcastic tone is...less so. On March 20 2008 14:10 Showtime! wrote: ShaLLoW are you mad because I took over your role from the last game? I think someone needs a lollipop. Too bad I don't have any special powers. Oh, wait: to annoy! That last line is quite true On March 20 2008 14:21 Showtime! wrote: The only players playing are those who voted or abstrained from voting. Read the damn rules, God. As I mentioned previously, this is incorrect. Unlike before, this is needlessly aggressive. On March 20 2008 14:30 Showtime! wrote: ShaLLoW needs a kleenex box guys. On March 22 2008 01:14 Showtime! wrote: We're onto him. Yes I just wanted to point it out again. Albino's are bad! :X I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but it isn't the only time he's made borderline racist comments. On March 24 2008 09:25 Showtime! wrote: What gives you any authority to say that oh wise one? There are many references that could link Ghar to Eddie. There is no denying it. Pointless, unhelpful and sarcastic. On March 24 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote: What did you expect? Regular townies still have a lot of input and of course it will be a little boring for regular townies. We have to vote on the process of elimination and sure bets. Smarten up. On March 25 2008 05:34 Showtime! wrote: I lol'ed. Apparently the mafia has no other choice but to attack in twos. Super gay. With all this double-teaming going around they should call this game The Gay Mafia Mr. Pink: 'Hey there precious! How'd you like to get shanked by Mr. Willie?' Proceed to Shallow getting boned, etc. Necrophilia loving. While there is a possibility that his homophobic remarks are in jest, this does not leave me with a good impression. On March 25 2008 11:47 Showtime! wrote: Perhaps they're a bunch of gay robots. Heh, heh. Good times. Heh, heh. Cannot touch this!! Amber what the hell have you been smoking?!?! I need some of that. The gay remarks keep coming. The last time I recall using gay as an insult was middle school, and even then I outgrew it quickly (although that may have had something to do with my proximity to San Francisco). On March 25 2008 11:58 Showtime! wrote: I DRINK BECAUSE I'M UNHAPPY! AND I'M UNHAPPY BECAUSE I DRINK!! *** Lucas, I'm going to share a secret with you. Come closer. Closer, c-l-o-s-e-r my child Listen.. Just listen. Listen closely. The Mafia, the Mafia is the g-e-y!! *** It took me about five days of mediation and drinking to come to this conclusion. Use it well. Yeah that was a pretty dumb move Emp. I have no idea what they are thinking. The above post edited to remove unnecessary whitespace. On March 25 2008 22:05 Showtime! wrote: KILL THE !@#$! He's one of them. Let him bleed!! KILL the PILIPINO!! If you aren't with US you are ONE of THEM, ONE of THEM!! Ninja star attack!! Because Plexa if it isn't him then it is only two other people. We've narrowed it down and if he wants to be a little bitch, well to be frank he deserves to get his teeth kicked into the curb like the rebel he is! Communists for the win! Fascists for the win! On March 25 2008 22:15 Showtime! wrote: No, it doesn't take away from the game because as a regular townie you can still post, PM clues and shit like be part of the strategy, you stubborn dingbat. Wow, some people. I guess we won't set a new record then for 100+ players in record time then. I say we kill all 4 leads because we're better off with out those dumbfucks and their E-Drama. We need those who will work with us, not against us. I don't know who said 'dumbfucks' are, but I think I know the source of most of the drama. On March 25 2008 23:53 Showtime! wrote: NO PILPINO sounds better :D!! You are such a Phillips head. I was going to call you a towel, but Phillips head sounds better. Stop grinding my gears you terrorist! In response to wurm correcting him on the spelling of Filipino. On March 26 2008 02:20 Showtime! wrote: No, he's just trying to start shit. Got to love the E-Drama a good old game of Gey Mafia brings. This one might be an inane comment, but given his apparent homophobia, I'll categorize this as a troll. On March 26 2008 08:52 Showtime! wrote: no shit, use your head fuck, I thought I had cottonmouth. God damnit, back to the drawing board. T_T I think he's talking to JeeJee here, but no matter who it is, it's offensive and pointless. On March 26 2008 16:24 Showtime! wrote: You are blinder and dumber than I thought. bye bye kiwi. On March 26 2008 20:24 Showtime! wrote: First of all, I don't have to post shit in response to your retardness because why would I plant anything in the mafia's head? Do you think I'm stupid? Get your head out of your ass. You really couldn't buy a clue. :. you must be mafia. You have no idea of who my suspects are dumbass. Do you honestly think I would post my elaborate plan for the public? I don't think so. I'm glad you're going to be gone soon. Naaaa, naaaa, na, naaaa, naaaa, naaaa, heeeeey, heeeeey, heeeeey goooood-bye! On March 27 2008 21:12 Showtime! wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2008 16:23 wurm wrote: JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him omfg, this is the clue that Chezinu and Showtime! linked me to? HAHAHAHAHA.. woo.. i needed a good laugh. Learn to fucking read. Now go back a few pages, read what I said and then stfu. It's people like you who make the world go round you stupid towelhead. And to aavar leave the clue detecting to the smart people because it sounds like you're on a wild goose chase that is leading to nowhere. Who knows? Perhaps you are mafia because almost all of your targets have been ludicrous, but it helps because I know of more than a few people who are trying to swing votes around to the town. Keep it up, easier to catch you. On March 28 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2008 13:53 Alethios wrote: On March 28 2008 01:46 Ace wrote: LucasWoj said he protected showtime who got hit No Vigilante put a hit on Showtime, therefore Showtime is Innocent From what you've told us, they could both be Evil Bastards. Lying about being hit isn't too hard, can imagine it would be a pretty clever ploy from both of them to gain our trust. Or am I missing something? i just had to point this out again. my God, how do you sleep at night? On March 28 2008 23:32 Showtime! wrote: Maybe you should take your own advice for once and stop trolling. Seriously though, I would settle this person to person because some people just deserve a beating. Stupid Armenians. I already had to deal with one before and stop pretending to be the village idiot because we all know you were there hackz. I'm finished with you and your gey antics. Go find some kleenex because nobody likes you. cry baby and learn english - it is demeaning Racism, homophobia, rudeness and threats of bodily harm. Showtime!'s got it all, doesn't he? On March 28 2008 23:56 Showtime! wrote: rofl go get a life i find it funny that someone would lie about something so trivial. it is stupid townies that are slowing us down. we already wasted two rolechecks on people -- i always figured the guy was clean and i never put him on my list especially considering chuiu didn't want to do anything about it in the first place = dead giveaway. the guy really must have no life what a sad little, little man i'm starting to feel sorry for the guy - his buttons are way too easy to push On March 29 2008 00:57 Showtime! wrote: no so far kau they're all townies and you guys keep forgetting something - i could just get pardoned by randombum all you guys are doing is wasting more time and proving me right again keep going after townies while the mafia looks on which is really smart - some of you really need to learn to lighten up a bit it's kind of sad at this rate all the mafia have to do is sit back and bust out the popcorn. They could probably get away doing this for maybe 5 games and they'll keep winning this way IQ of the town hmmm! this is why i don't post anything public The only place I've seen more arrogance than this is 4chan. On March 29 2008 02:02 Showtime! wrote: Ace confirmed it. A number of other people will be able to as well once the game is over. I'm not going to discuss this again. Wait until the game ends and we'll give you guys our logs. araav take my bet then unless you are scared you numbskull Melodramatic posts: (I tend to use melodramatic interchangeably with attention-whore) Showtime! want's attention. Most of his posts in this section can be summed up as: 'I know something that you don't, but I'm not going to tell you.' In other words, Showtime! often claims to know mafioso, but never publicly reveals his suspects; only that he has them. Always, this begs the question of who they are. More rarely, he exaggerates the ill effects of a situation, attempting to play the sympathy card. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 10:17 Showtime! wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote: 35. Vharox 83. Chezinu Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are. You guys should vote on whether we should ban him Edit: Sucks that some people have to cheat even in friendly forum games. That is obvious ban material. Get rid of him before he does damage to the game, or else we have to restart the game. I consider this melodrama or at least overly dramatic, because of his appeal to fear and emotion (and he is ignoring logic) when he says we have to restart the game. On March 20 2008 09:26 Showtime! wrote: We're the mob. What do you expect? Here, he just wants attention. On March 20 2008 13:41 Showtime! wrote: Considering Incontrol wasn't even active I think it would only be fair to give another townie the role of Mad Hatter. I could have given you five better picks than him. Really, this post falls into several categories. It's arrogant, and probably offensive to Chuiu. But most of all, it is an attention-whoreish post, much like Joseph McCarthy's famous list of communists. He mentions five better picks, but does not elaborate. He can argue that he is doing it to escape mafia attention, but the act of posting demands attention. Showtime! knows this well. On March 20 2008 13:49 Showtime! wrote: I'm not announcing it public. The fact of the matter is you could have killed 3 for the price of one if incontrol was even playing. We need another mad hatter. This begs the question, why? On March 20 2008 13:50 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, like I want the mafia to know who I suspect. They're posting privately so I will as well. This also falls under attention-whore because nobody had responded to him since his previous statement (directly above). If not for the attention, why would he post again, with no clarification asked for? On March 20 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote: hahaha read between the lines and you tell me who you think I'm accusing. How about em' apples? har har har I'm sure he was very pleased with himself after he posted this one. On March 24 2008 05:20 Showtime! wrote: Ace, I already gave you my list. You know my answer. Again, this begs the question of 'what list?'. If he had PMed a list to Ace, posting in the thread is entirely unnecessary. On March 24 2008 16:01 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, they already made a few mistakes. We have another three more lined up ready to kill. And yet he declines to share any information. This is part inane commentary, and part attention-whore. On March 26 2008 02:53 Showtime! wrote: Um, we have a lot more than just 2 verified. lol Arrogant, and begs the question. On March 26 2008 03:14 Showtime! wrote: Maybe no one has any trust in you fanatacist to be divulging any info to you. Like I said before, I know the mafia is going to try and hit me tonight. I've done more than my fair share to help the Town win tyvm. The clues Chuiu gave us have been extremely helpful and I have given more than a few people my list of 9-14 names. If clue detecting isn't your thing leave it to someone else. Either way those people are going to get exposed soon. Ace even said, "Tomorrow shit will really hit the fan." I couldn't agree anymore. From what I can see, Showtime! really loves being above, or better than other people. On March 26 2008 20:44 Showtime! wrote: Our illogical Kiwi friend --> it goes back quite a few pages. Now then, if any more 'rebels' want to fire more blanks in the dark --> get a clue beforehand because it's very unlikely you know our agenda. In other words (for those who are slow around here), if all you do is read this thread then you probably have no idea what's really going on behind the scenes. I'll bet you really love being "behind the scenes." On March 27 2008 13:14 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, looks like we'll have to go with Plan C. Got to thank the Mafia for one thing and one thing only. They made our double lynch a lot easier today. I think we're going to have to get a IRC channel to discuss our next course of action. When Showtime! writes 'we', I read 'Other people will make an IRC channel for me, and until then, I'll spam the thread some more. On March 27 2008 13:25 Showtime! wrote: I think I know who Black is, but I've been wrong before. On March 28 2008 05:23 Showtime! wrote: Ace I think it's time we schedule that meeting. I don't want Lucas' death to go in vain. There is no reason why this can't go in a PM, unless it is to draw attention to himself. On March 28 2008 06:18 Showtime! wrote: Once you get home check the channel. We need all the foot soldiers in there. Inane commentary / Spam: This is the majority of Showtime!'s posts. I haven't included all of them here, but the sheer volume should give you the idea. Showtime! has 'contributed' pages of useless spam to this thread, more than any other player. I think his need for attention compels him to post fluff, in order for recognition. However, this category is still distinct from the melodramatic. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate random humor as much as the next fellow, but enough is enough.[/i] + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote: What I want to know is what the hell does he get out of doing all this for us? ._. On March 20 2008 11:30 Showtime! wrote: Too bad I don't have any power because then I could avenge the loss of Empyrean. We're going to lose a good player early. -_- On March 20 2008 11:14 Showtime! wrote: It was a smart strategic move of you at the start, but not anymore pal. I might have helped cause the turnover. My bad. Showtime! admitting wrongdoing; I'm shocked. On March 20 2008 13:27 Showtime! wrote: Inc hasn't even voted you goof. -_- I love how we have to make everything public. It's so grand! On March 20 2008 13:32 Showtime! wrote: lynch pinky. show some authoritay. On March 20 2008 13:34 Showtime! wrote: lynch c0bbler for telling you to lay off. On March 20 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote: I haven't verified your role in this so why should I? Ninja! On March 20 2008 13:59 Showtime! wrote: I'm C. On March 20 2008 14:01 Showtime! wrote: I think you know more than you can chew nemY but what do I know? I'm Irish and drunk. Well, then send a detective and waste a turn on me for all I care. On March 20 2008 14:06 Showtime! wrote: I thought it was still St. Pat's = the official town drunk. On March 20 2008 14:08 Showtime! wrote: They did take out the biggest target per say. phat move On March 20 2008 14:24 Showtime! wrote: let him be I find it quite amusing just ignore him if he bothers you that much you may very well be this game as well too bad I don't have any bombs to tie you up on On March 20 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote: No, I'm third generation. No relation to the Black Donnelly's. First of all, get your facts straight: I'm the Town Drunk. I should be able to toss beer bottles at people or have the option of slipping a roofie into someone's drink rendering them useless for one night. That would be a cool role. On March 20 2008 14:41 Showtime! wrote: What good would that do though? I didn't know the Human Torch was in this game. FLAME ON!?!?!?! On March 21 2008 03:46 Showtime! wrote: Ok, just wanted to clarify. Hopefully everyone plays by the honor code then. On March 21 2008 04:42 Showtime! wrote: I'm talking about Lysithea. On March 21 2008 04:43 Showtime! wrote: Or how about you go get whacked nemY? ;p On March 21 2008 05:19 Showtime! wrote: It was as if Incontrol didn't read up on all the rules beforehand. Ace is clean. On March 21 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote: Heroes. On March 21 2008 08:44 Showtime! wrote: your welcome feel free to add to the pile of barf anyway we have some direction now thank you for being so active y'all On March 21 2008 08:50 Showtime! wrote: Naib, we better not find you sleeping in the same bed as Shallow's mom come morning that would really, really suck On March 22 2008 01:42 Showtime! wrote: It's Pinky and the Brain, Pinky and the Brain One is a genius and the other is insane to prove their mousy worth, they'll overtake the earth they're Pinky, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain Narf!! No Hotbid, that would be just too convenient!! I think the Mr. Pink clue could also be directed to sexsexpussyhair as well. On March 22 2008 01:53 Showtime! wrote: Why are you digging yourself into a bigger hole Heros? One thing is certain, we need bigger clues. On March 22 2008 06:33 Showtime! wrote: Me too Empyrean. Join the family T.T On March 22 2008 06:40 Showtime! wrote: No, but Empyrean is a sexy beast. They kill him off and then we're down one sexy beast. I mean w-t-f man! W--T--F. I should make a 'Pray for Empyrean' sign. On March 22 2008 06:43 Showtime! wrote: Yes, but we need to keep as many of our sexy beasts as possible. I mean we already lost an ultralisk! On March 23 2008 05:12 Showtime! wrote: kill the !@#$! On March 23 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote: Not all of the detectives checked in yet? GAY. Ace check your PMs. You must have around 30. I mark this as inane, because I think that his use of the phrase 'gay' is not homophobic in nature On March 23 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote: My thoughts exactly. We need to fry the bigger fish and Ghar isn't it. On March 23 2008 14:16 Showtime! wrote: Son aren't you supposed to be hanging low my main man? On March 23 2008 14:17 Showtime! wrote: Yes, we know all Albino's are mafia. That is a given fact. Now sh! I think he's joking here. On March 23 2008 14:28 Showtime! wrote: PM them ace. How much time do we have left until night? On March 23 2008 14:33 Showtime! wrote: He usually gives us some warning in advance anyway, bah. We need to avenge some of our comrades. On March 23 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote: But I want my vengeance now *pouts* A good defense is a good offense. On March 23 2008 23:28 Showtime! wrote: NO, it's because we have bigger fish to fry. On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote: At the very least we can say we avenged Mynock. On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote: yeah almost 10PM there. i meant to say 11. On March 24 2008 07:01 Showtime! wrote: Someone's sarcasm detector isn't working. On March 24 2008 08:14 Showtime! wrote: no shit, he pretty much gave it away. This is what the PM is for people. Wake up. On March 24 2008 08:26 Showtime! wrote: Answers should be PMed. On March 24 2008 08:59 Showtime! wrote: vigis should be checking in. On March 24 2008 12:29 Showtime! wrote: Too bad you cannot just buy one. I'm the town drunkard. He's the town idiot. Isn't it a wonderful life? On March 24 2008 12:38 Showtime! wrote: Why would I vote for a mafia mayor? I suspected him of being Mafia a long time ago. I guess Ace and I will have to have a drinking contest then to settle this once and for all. On March 25 2008 03:09 Showtime! wrote: No, you need a On March 25 2008 05:26 Showtime! wrote: That was too funny. Haha Shallowbay. ;p On March 25 2008 05:40 Showtime! wrote: Too bad Mora isn't playing <3 Mora On March 25 2008 05:46 Showtime! wrote: Which one is it baby? Spitz or Swallows? Yeah, but we at least have 6 more to identify. On March 25 2008 06:06 Showtime! wrote: Awww I wanted to call it 'No mafia in my house plan' or MILF - 'Mafia is losing, fuckers' On March 25 2008 06:15 Showtime! wrote: PMing. This might have been a non-useless post once, as it was one of his (many) edited posts. On March 25 2008 11:21 Showtime! wrote: Here Mafia, mafia!! YOUUUUUUUUU WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Catch me if you can!! On March 25 2008 12:05 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, he's pretty stubborn. Just like me!! 8D He wants every convict to be 100% confirmed before we do anything. On March 25 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote: BUT I WANT TO GET DIRTY TONIGHT. OH WAIT, THEY'RE ONTO ME!! Ninja mode on. On March 25 2008 12:46 Showtime! wrote: Shallow because you and I are both being taken out tonight fellatio style. Damn gay robots. On March 25 2008 12:48 Showtime! wrote: Dude, those are men. Watch out for the Mai Thai's. I admit, I found (and still find) this comment amusing. On March 25 2008 12:58 Showtime! wrote: Because he is a ninja from the land of sexsexpussyhair where are the gay robots can roam free and enjoy free Mai Thai prostitutes. On March 25 2008 13:02 Showtime! wrote: oh snap! KILL KILL KILL THE WHITE MAN. Oh wait he is Phill-o-pinooooooooo. Just kill him already. This may be a joke, or it may be racism. I really hope that it is a joke, so I'm categorizing it as frivolous. On March 25 2008 14:22 Showtime! wrote: No but I heard pounding beers back doesn't hurt. You might want to try it sometime. Oh, wait you're in the States and you only have Miller Lite and Budweiser which tastes like piss water. Get a bottle of Jacks and swallow her down. On March 25 2008 22:55 Showtime! wrote: Oh no he didn't! He did, he did. :o I really don't know why this whitespace was necessary. On March 25 2008 23:10 Showtime! wrote: WURM MUST DIE! DIE, DIE, DIE!! The fact he never confirmed his identity with Ace and blindly saved someone on the first day doesn't ADD UP! DIE, DIE, DIE!! He's a terrorist! He must gooooooooooooooooooo! On March 25 2008 23:57 Showtime! wrote: No, you're a towel. On March 26 2008 11:31 Showtime! wrote: Oh for fucks sake stop spamming useless banter Pink!! YOU AREN'T HELPING THE CAUSE!! I vote PINKY and the BRAIN to die!! I too, would like to see the end of spamming useless banter. On March 26 2008 12:02 Showtime! wrote: I think he's drunk too. Hey, hey, hey Pink, I think we figured out who the Narc is this game. On March 26 2008 15:56 Showtime! wrote: Yeah what he said. KILLLLLLLLL HEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR. KILL HER. HANG HER NOW PLEASE. HANNNNG HHHHHHEEERRR On March 26 2008 16:09 Showtime! wrote: If that is the last defence of the mafia then they just failed. On March 27 2008 09:48 Showtime! wrote: He was obviously drunk. On March 27 2008 12:41 Showtime! wrote: Oh snap!! Look who's still alive and nice try >;D On March 27 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, I think they're just firing at will hoping to get lucky. To answer your question random I'm treating this like a IRC channel until you guys make one so we can discuss it there -_- Ace I think we should do the three group thing man. I want to pin point those bastards in 1 day rather than 3. While this list is incomplete, not showing all of his posts, the basis can be clearly seen. Also to note, is that very many of his posts are edited. From what I recall, his material was typically more offensive before it was edited, perhaps an admin can confirm or deny this. Showtime! spends most of his time seeking attention from others, via insinuations, useless commentary, and outright flaming. Why do we suffer his presence? Supposedly, he has an important role, that has been confirmed by Ace. This is what he wants us to believe. His more recent posts have been insinuations of importance, raw arrogance, and insinuations of narcissism, elevating himself above the status of others. Yesterday, Showtime! has repeatedly made reference to a conference with Ace, publicly posted, leaving us to conclude that he is somehow better than us. Strangely, Ace never publicly places such importance on Showtime!'s opinion. However, what finally brought this rant to the surface is his incessant begging for a ban of aarav. Showtime! claims that arrav hacked into a private chat. There are two problems with this. One, hacking a private chatroom is not related to TeamLiquid in any way, so I don't think it warrants a ban. I do not know TL moderator policy in this matter, but I have my doubts as to whether it is a banworthy offense. Second, you cannot hack something that you don't know about. Someone had to leak details of a private chat, but you repeatedly ignore this fact, instead trumpeting your protestations of victimization, and that we should restart the game. Showtime!'s posts: + Show Spoiler + On March 28 2008 11:44 Showtime! wrote: I have a big fucking complaint which might get this game closed. Our 'programmer' from Armenia decided to take it upon himself to infiltrate a chatroom where many of our key players were located. :. he knows many of our key players and this is just down right wrong. We might have to re-start the bloody game now. This is obviously against the rules. I'm down right pissed. Ban araav please you unethical bastard. Showtime! is seriously overreacting. Again. One of his attention-whore techniques is making a mountain out of a molehill, and in my opinion this qualifies. Restarting the game because of someone showing up in a chatroom is way out of proportion, and everyone here knows it. Second, where does it state anything wrong with this in the rules? I wish Showtime! good luck finding it, because it sure as hell isn't there. Finally, you have no right to request a ban. The moderators have better things to do with their time than follow your every whim. On March 28 2008 11:56 Showtime! wrote: No, it is an unfair advantage to use something like that and it is fucking unethical. It is one thing to pose as a blue it is a totally different thing to enter a chatroom where the mod is afk as well as others. It was a boneheaded move and play. The fucking guy is 30-years-old and should know better. How mature. I know... lol, look ghar we know you are mafia, we know he is and fuck to hell with it I think it is safe to assume I now have 10 of you. I'm not sure what's unfair about it. Someone had to have told him about the chatroom, because you can't hack something if you don't know if it exists. I know that Showtime! will ignore this fact because it is contrary to his premade opinions, but it is a fact nonetheless. And when Showtime! mentions unethical, I can't help but think that his racism and homophobia are also unethical. On March 28 2008 12:00 Showtime! wrote: the guy deserves to be banned period no discussion you can say whatever you want in a public forum. anything goes i personally don't care but when you take it upon yourself to hack a private chatroom that is unacceptable. Again, he's just trying to make a spectacle. He brings nothing new to the discussion, but instead makes sure he can't be ignored. On March 28 2008 12:12 Showtime! wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2008 12:04 wurm wrote: hahaha.. now you guys really know there is a fake medic in your ranks. hahahaha... no, no, just remember. i'm the 7th medic. 7 medics reported. im assuming the "fake" medic was given access to the chatroom. "fake" medic tells fellow mafioso, boom, infiltrated. I don't see how this can be cause for stopping the game. wurm sorry but i just spoke with ace and he never gave you the channel nor did he give every medic the channel either so the guy broke in. in fact none of the medics know of it, so i don't buy that for one second. Here, he does bring new information, but he offers no way of proving it. Basically,he just makes sure that we can't forget him, and that he's important. On March 28 2008 12:23 Showtime! wrote: there is no leak. the medics simply don't know the chan. only 100% verified people and key players or strategic minds. his response will probably go something like this: "i have no life." Here, he's just being childish. His first sentence is a slightly more advanced form of 'nuh-uh', and his later ones just insist that he's right. On March 28 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote: considering none of us gave it to him and the guy took it upon himself to break in he has officially ruined the game. Oh well, we'll suck it up and find a way to win I guess, but that is total balls. Hopefully an Admin will ban him period, but I would like an explanation beforehand as well. It's official now? I thought it was only official when Chuiu or Dapperdan said so, and Chuiu had just said explicitly that he didn't care. Also, he's trying to elevate his own importance by implying that the admins follow his every whim, and that he deserves an explanation if he asks for one. Showtime!, I am sick of your attention-whore ways. You may be important to the town, but you are vastly overblowing your own importance, and flying it in the face of others. TeamLiquid is better than this, and we do not deserve to suffer you here. I recognize that I have no say in moderator policy, but if Showtime! is banned, I will be the first to cheer. + Show Spoiler [My opinion of Showtime!] + Thank you, that is all for now. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
March 29 2008 21:28 GMT
#3476
On March 30 2008 04:51 Plexa wrote: a google search of Mandalor's name reveals a common theme of knights (despite there being no real meaning for the name) No real meaning for the name? Are you kidding me? Mandalor clearly refers to the Mandalorians, an extinct race in Star Wars. In the movies, Boba Fett was well known for his distinctive Mandalorian battle armor. Sorry for the non sequitur, but this is important to me | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
March 29 2008 21:52 GMT
#3479
On March 30 2008 06:48 Ace wrote: 4.) I'll probably just lay back and let you guys do as you please, I already know how to win the game but due to constant bitching I think I'll be silent and do things on my own. Have fun. Don't take the FakeSteve route. We've complained, but we've done what you asked. Since you have information that we don't, staying silent is just selfish and petty. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
March 30 2008 05:14 GMT
#3516
On March 30 2008 13:35 Empyrean wrote: There's no way we can really say what Chuiu's "style" is. The best way to go about this is to let Ace and the DTs figure it out, although my faith in them was a little bit shaken after the last night's lynching. And wtf, one DT didn't use his powers? What a nublet. Remember guys, we already can analyze Chuiu's clue styles. Chuiu posted a full clue list at the end of the previous game, and the vast majority were written by him rather than Dapperdan. Link here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=155#3091 | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
March 31 2008 20:26 GMT
#3557
On April 01 2008 04:48 Empyrean wrote: All you've done in this game is made asinine comments that have no bearing at all on the game. Anyway, I'd just like to say that I have some reservations about randombum. Obviously, the clues about the bum can relate to either him or bumatlarge, but randombum has been really silent all game. Also, we've had a large proportion of blue deaths - how can that be explained except the clues reporting into randombum who is a mafia? I'm going to be really pissed if I didn't get Pardoner because people joined the HEY GUYS LET'S VOTE FOR RANDOMBUM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT EMPYREAN THERE! bandwagon. The same thing could be said about Ace, although there aren't many clues that relate to him. But still, after he gained our trust the first night, he decided to lead us to lynch some townies. It's entirely possible that he only got us to kill one blue so as not to arouse too much suspicion on us. Just possibilities, though. Very good chance that neither of them are mafia (although if you'd have to ask, I'd suspect Ace more than randombum). Randombum has also repeatedly asked for a rolecheck. In my eyes, he isn't likely to bluff that frequently. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 02 2008 15:26 GMT
#3592
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 03 2008 18:22 GMT
#3649
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 03 2008 23:34 GMT
#3668
So, unless we get more information from Ace, I think aarav should be our first target. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 04 2008 04:41 GMT
#3677
On April 04 2008 12:53 Alethios wrote: It's come to my attention that this thread must be closed, and a majority of the town's inhabitants banned. I quote, from the Ten Commandments: "And please don't try to be Freud or Jung. Don't second-guess the motives for why someone wrote something... ...Avoid responding with comments filled with half-baked psychoanalytical presumptions about the poster's imputed agenda or their psych profile... ...Stop psychoanalyzing - you don't have a license to practice. " I rest my case Ah, crap we're screwed ;-) | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 05 2008 03:46 GMT
#3746
On April 05 2008 09:35 SonuvBob wrote: Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this thread lately, been too busy rigging TL polls. Here's why I voted for randombum though: Show nested quote + Any innocent townie that wants to prove their innocence can vote on either myself or randombum BUT watch the vote count to make sure you don't accidentally lynch one of us. I'll go back and read some of it now. Quoted to preserve evidence! ==edit== And to bump the thread. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 06 2008 06:30 GMT
#3776
On April 06 2008 05:50 Ace wrote: well people talking in general helps. No one except a few people are discussing anything. You guys really don't need to take orders from me at this point, I think a lot of info is in the open that will help catch many mafia. So you aren't going to tell the town what the detectives discovered? How considerate. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 10 2008 02:29 GMT
#3941
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 13 2008 22:07 GMT
#4421
On April 14 2008 06:02 MTF wrote: 3. CDRdude Many acronyms for CDR here. Likely candidates include commander and conductor. There's another acronym for CDR; my initials. In my opinion, it is the most likely candidate for the inclusion in my TL id. But you never know, I might be wrong ^_^ | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
April 15 2008 18:08 GMT
#4598
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 03 2008 06:44 GMT
#6413
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 04 2008 07:24 GMT
#6433
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 08 2008 05:43 GMT
#6498
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 15 2008 03:30 GMT
#6592
On July 15 2008 01:56 ydg wrote: so lynching order is: CDRdude if CDRdude is green, jtan? showtime list? iNfuNdiBuLuM? i'd think reducing showtime list is the best. if CDRdude is red, hotzhot? solesteeler? CDRdude I think you should lynch jtan | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 18 2008 16:50 GMT
#6624
On July 19 2008 01:17 ydg wrote: I still think we should lynch CDRdude. If iNfuNdiBuLuM is green, then we have no new info, except that the Showtime list is reduced. If iNfuNdiBuLuM is red, then we know that CDRdude is green and the rest of the Mandalor list is green. However; If CDRdude is green, then we know that the people on the Mandalor list but not on the Showtime list are green. If CDRdude is red, then we know that of the people on the Mandalor list but not on the Showtime list, one is mafia, which reduces the list. Thus, we only get good information if iNfuNdiBuLuM turns red, while if CDRdude turns either red or green, we get information. You bring up a really good point. Honestly, you've almost convinced me to lynch CDRdude, but it's against the rules for me to vote for that guy. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 21 2008 02:09 GMT
#6702
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 23 2008 03:55 GMT
#6742
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 25 2008 00:49 GMT
#6749
On July 25 2008 09:37 jtan wrote: Your either a sheep or an idiot -_- I'm a sheep! | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
July 27 2008 23:29 GMT
#6768
On July 28 2008 08:07 Lysithea wrote: CDRdude (how did we confirm this again? someone please link to post describing why) I'm not positive, but I think I was confirmed innocent by the Mandalor list: A detective found out how many mafia voted to lynch Mandalor, and all the mafia on that list were lynched, so only innocents remain. I think. I'll try to look it up. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
August 02 2008 05:12 GMT
#6794
On July 22 2008 12:35 jtan wrote: ok, all jokes aside you wont take anything I say seriously at this point, but please read this when I'm confirmed innocent by either confirmation of mr Blue's death or by my own death. I'm going to bed now and the day might be up soon It is almost certainly going to show that mr Blue is dead, which means he cannot possibly be me however many clues you think you have. Then just make sure you vote KF91 and Hotzhot. If mr blue is by some magic alive or chuiu bitches with me and don't write the mafias akas day 21, I can't really do anything, I will be lynched. Just make sure KF91 and Hotzhot dies after me. pm people etc. The case against KF91 as orange is already strong Case against Hotzhot as blonde, by nemY, page 320: + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2008 15:03 nemY wrote: -Mr. Blond + Show Spoiler + Day 1 He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead -displays superhuman speed -rammed into his target -possibly? Killed target. Day 2 Evening seemed to drag on forever as everyone worried over the turn of events the town faced. But when night finally came, the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen. Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Over at casa Mynock he was frying himself a late night snack and watching a rerun of the news from earlier that night. He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving straight into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. -came down from ceiling -was bashed in the face by target -target went to look for his shotgun but found only a smiley “” face in it’s place -eliminates target with shotgun before target could reach him Day 5 Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. He could see d.arkive running through some corridors looking for someone, anyone. He found Hittegods. d.arkive ran towards Hittegods as he was examining some photos and hit a button. An explosion ripped apart nearly half of the building and it sent everyone outside ducking for cover as debris flew all over. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. -can talk -dodges the remains of a flying door -“jets” to his target, again with the super speed -soundly hits his target twice (one punch, one kick) -retreats when his target wields a weapon Day 7 G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks. -mocks his target for his failures -wields a gun -again with the speed, he dodges his target’s attack and injures his target -eliminates his target with a gunshot to the head Day 9 Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie. -charges through the front door, which ends up shattering all the nearby/surrounding windows (assuming this is a convenience store with many windows) -stabs his target with 15 knifes, 3 in each arm, 3 in each leg, 2 in the chest, and 1 in the original location where he first stabbed his target (3x4)+2+1 = 15 -does not match Cottonmouth’s killing pattern (aside from the 15 knifes, Cottonmouth went 1 in the shoulder, 3 in one arm, 3 in both legs (which is 1+(3x3) = 10), and finished his target with 5 (in the shape of a pentagram) in his target’s chest (15 knifes total) Day 13 Losing two members that day the mafia decided to pull all the stops and hit the town where it mattered. They were through messing around and Mr. Orange, Eddie, and Mr. Blonde were about to prove that by taking out Fanatacist and Ace once and for all. Ace and Fanatacist were sitting at a desk going over detective files trying to find the remaining few mafia when the three barged into the room. Ace quickly grabbed the phone to call for backup but it was too late as Mr. Orange had landed a dagger right on the phone line cutting him off. Mr. Blonde shot across the room and grabbed all the notes dumping them into a trash bin nearby. He lit a match and set the whole thing on fire hoping this was the last copy the town had to go off. Mr. Orange, Mr. Blonde and Eddie all got out pistols and fired round after round at Ace and Fanatacist who were helpless to stop them. Eddie went up to Ace and he was terrified as Eddie finished him off but firing one last round into his head. -again with the speed, Mr. Blonde “shoots” across the room -burns the town’s notes -pulls out a pistol and finishes the two targets with the combined help from Eddie, and Mr. Orange Day 15] Cottonmouth organized a strike force of mafia to take on a few troublesome townies who had the tendency to keep watches at night. With three mafia it would be sufficient enough to take on three regular joes. So he, along with the Wolf and Mr. Blonde, went to Jimtudor's house and broke in. This automatically set off their home made alarm system and the mafia squelched it right after but the damage was done and they were alerted to mafia presence. Supah, Alethios, and Jimtudor got ready with their handmade weapons, aware that most of the time Mafia did not carry weapons favoring to kill without alerting the neighborhood to their presence. Cottonmouth expecting more trouble went back to his car and handed five plumbata's to each of his comrades. Prepared for the fight to come they burst through the basement door and each threw one at their targets. Two missed and one hit a garbage can lid that Supah was using as a shield. The townies made their counter attack, the stairs leading down to the basement collapsed and the mafia came crashing down hard stunning and injuring them. Not enough though as they were able to ward off the crude melee weapons the town had fashioned from a yard rake, a baseball bat, and a broken chain. Mr. Blonde was able to grab a hold of the yard rake Supah was using and kicked it to break it in half, the Wolf grabbed hold of the chain and pulled it out of Jimtudor's hand then flung it to the side and tossed one of his remaining darts in his shoulder, and Cottonmouth deflected Alethios baseball bat and stabbed him in the foot with a dart. Mr. Blonde threw two plumbata's at Supah and then used the broken off rake handle and stabbed him with it, he then finished off Supah by stabbing a dart into his face. The Wolf lunged for the chain and wrapped it around Jimtudor's leg, then he pulled hard and caused him to fall to the ground. Cottonmouth finished off Alethios by stabbing the rest of the darts into his chest. And the three ganged up on Jimtudor and plunged their remaining darts into his face. -trips the alarm system (well all 3 of them do) -throws a plumbata but misses all 3 of the targets -grabs hold of the yard rake his target was using and breaks it in half by kicking it (possibly requiring some speed/force/strength to do this, it’s hard to recreate an accurate visual in my mind of this scene) -distracts his target by throwing two plumbata’s into at his target and then uses the broken yard rake to stab his target -finishes his target by stabbing him in the face with a plumbata -assists his other two mafia members in eliminating the final target when they all stab the remaining darts into the target’s face Day 17 In the dark shed in ShaLLoW[baY]'s backyard Mr. Blonde gleefully waiting in silence clutching his weapon. ShaLLoW[baY] made his way to the shed slowly inspecting his petunias after the storm had passed. He was shocked to say the least when he opened the door. Mr. Blonde swatting ShaLLoW[baY] with the front end of the yard tool causing him to stumble backward into a trap Mr. Blonde had set of several nails on the ground. Having punctured his foot on a rather rusty one ShaLLoW[baY] began hopping frantically trying to pry the devil from his foot as he screamed in pain. Mr. Blonde used this opportunity to maneuver himself behind his victim and he killed ShaLLoW[baY] in one swift vengeful blow by shoving the rake up his ass. -“gleefully” waits for his target with his weapon -sets a trap for his target -smacks his target with a yard rake causing his target to fall back onto some rusty nails (the trap) -eliminates his target by raping him with the rake -kills his target with a “swift vengeful blow” (rape raking), again with the speed and power My suspect for Mr. Blonde = HotZhot Why? For a number of reasons -claims to have known who the true Mr. Blonde is, but has revealed 0 relevant information -his profile picture comes from an anime, most notably a hentai that GranDim found out on page 184 Show nested quote + On April 04 2008 12:37 GranDim wrote: + Show Spoiler [The Wolf] + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. - One shot kill - targets the head HotZhot is my primary suspect here. Notably because he has such good aim and whatnot. However, i am hesitant to convict him at this stage because of this; His profile image looks like a wolf person - this means (imo) that he cannot be the character "The Wolf" with such a strong connection to the name. Up to the town i guess! More on the picture Its a crop from this wallpaper The character is from a hentai series http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1524,rfykgv,maho_shojo_ai.html (work safe link). However I doubt this has much relevance, unless chuiu is heavily into anime wallpapers or hentai he couldn't have made that link. most specifically if you read the link you'll notice this, Show nested quote + Yuragi noticed Akitoshi and began to attack him. Then, the fighter, Ai, appeared and cut them down. the fighter comes out of nowhere and eliminates the target, this I feel bodes well with the whole theme of Mr. Blonde displaying superhuman speed. -his name, HotZhot which can be interpreted to mean "Hot Shot" fits well with the Day 7 and 9 killings, why? Because people who are "Hot Shots" are generally stuck up and full of themselves + Show Spoiler + consider that with Mr. Blonde's mocking of Naruto and his desire to "get everyone's attention in the double murder or Amor and Alvientene" -the "i only smile in the dark" connects well with Day 2's killing of Mynock and Day 17's killing of Shallow[bay] (gleefully --> smiling in the dark) -the raping of shallow[bay] connects very well with the overall hentai theme of his profile picture ;/ Flaws Looking back on it, the smiley face in Day 2 was almost certainly Clazzaquai's doing, his profile quote was something like "me from kirbati, no speak english^^';" As most everyone on here knows, "^^;" is a korean/anime face for smiling =/ Conclusion Regardless how you guys feel about this, I think it's safe to say the mirror theory is flawed. Mr. Blonde has yet to directly mirror anyone's actions. I'm still working on a few other viable leads =/ HotZhots voting record ( --- =abstain or no vote) + Show Spoiler + 1.--- 2.--- 3.--- 4.--- 5.Siefu/EvilMonkey 6.--- 7.L/ulzz 8.generalstan 9.DamageControl/Rowdierbob 10.--- 11.--- 12.--- (said "why is people voting for randombum" in vote thread) 13.--- (said "missed the last vote" in this vote thread even though he posted in prev. thread...a little weird) 14.Bockit 15.--- 16.--- 17.Somuchbetter 18.nemY 19.Bugztooni 20.--- Participated in some of the votes against mafia, but otherwise voted green (as far as we know now) I think I will follow in his dying advice, and vote to lynch Hotzhot. | ||
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