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So far, I like the Bodyguard plan the best and the overall the impression Ace made on me is nothing but positive. Given that we can't really draw any conclusions from one days batch of clues I'll just vote what I feel is the best. Currently it's Ace for mayor. However if it looks like Ace is getting a landslide victory I might change my vote toward a different candidate for pardoner spot, who that's gonna be I don't know.
If Empyrean is a DT he could be very valuable as pardoner but it's something about the whole thing that just feels out of place. I'm tempted to vote for him, not for mayor but as pardoner. Wish we could have more campaigning from his side. My question to all of you is: would it be beneficial enough for mafia to even attempt the stunt empyrean is employing? Would it be reasonable? I'm asking cause I'm not sure whether to vote for Empyrean or someone else in the case of me voting for a pardoner spot. Ghar (cause he acually got a plan) and randombum (he played solid the last mafia game, a game I only was a spectator in) would be my other choices.
Did I miss something crucial in my reasoning? Did I forget something along the way these last 13pages? Tell me!
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On March 19 2008 02:13 Lysithea wrote: ...
If Empyrean is a DT he could be very valuable as pardoner but it's something about the whole thing that just feels out of place. I'm tempted to vote for him, not for mayor but as pardoner. Wish we could have more campaigning from his side. My question to all of you is: would it be beneficial enough for mafia to even attempt the stunt empyrean is employing? Would it be reasonable? I'm asking cause I'm not sure whether to vote for Empyrean or someone else in the case of me voting for a pardoner spot.
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Reposting this part from my own post since I really want peoples thoughts on this.
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Since it looks like Ace gonna get more votes than anyone else I'll change my vote for my second the best candidate for pardoner, randombum. Thanks for the input on empyrean stuff btw, 15pages got my head spinning.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2008 04:19 Hollander wrote: ... Out of those two, I only know Lysithea enough to know he's dumb as an unshoed horses hoof which only underlines him being Mr. Blonde, hehe :p ... pff, says the oily norwegian who played a feraldruid in pvp! (don't go and get me killed holl, I wanna play this for awhile :/)
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So.. by tomorrow if none has spoken up against your townmanship we can be pretty sure you're legit, correct?
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Probably good if I say this btw, I'm much of a lurker not much of a poster. Often enough what I was about to say has already been said. Don't feel like repeating stuff unnecessary. Hopefully I can become more active when the clues start coming in, the whole mayoral part was pretty straightforward for me. The outcome turned out exactly how I wanted (I already expressed my preferred situation at the start/mid of day1).
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Fusiondf, that was for the day1 lynch only since we couldn't really rely on such vague connections to clues. We're of course lynching based on clues and whatever else we can do to single out mafia from here on out.
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It feels like several persons already are pretty sure of other persons being mafia based on... pretty much nothing? Please don't go and accuse people without stating your reason why. We need discussion to happen so we can form a good probable reason to why a person might be mafia. Just stating that "this person is mafia, it's obvious!" doesn't help those that might not understand why (including me).
As a spectator last game it felt like some lynches just happened on a.. whim? We really need discussion and good connections to clues and whatnot before we go and let the masses bandwagon kill someone (please don't do this, tho I realize I might do this myself sometime :| ).
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Oh I forgot to ask, have someone googled/wikied about persons profiles etc and compiled it in a neat file or something? Just wondering cause I know I'll be too lazy to do it but it would become very handy later on.
On second thought, if someone has, they're probably waiting for Ace to be cleared towny to then funnel the information through him to avoid being killed.
For now, nevermind me.
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On March 21 2008 00:42 Scorch wrote: I have a question though: what hinders a Mafia from claiming to be a Detective who has found Ace to be a Towny, and contacting him to infiltrate / gain access to the resistance group? The fraud would only leak out if ALL other "real" Detectives are in contact with Ace too. There would then be five Detectives, one of which is an impostor. But who?
If none has spoken up against Ace soon enough (a BG dies tonight and one of the other BGs didnt have that BG on his list or a DT rolechecked him for mafia) he should be considered legit. If the DTs is paranoid they could all use one of their rolechecks just to be sure I guess, aslong as one them do it, it should be fine. They should contact him to prevent exactly this situation, the whole plan falls apart if the DTs dont report in, doesn't it? From there on out it's just a matter of checking the rest of the bunch of classroles and be sure that all of them are legit and thereon out the resistancegroup grows and more powerful it becomes.
If there's too many reporting in for a certain role we're off to a great start I would say. We know that one of the persons in that small group is mafia. That should give us way better odds to work with, since there's only Xamounts of that role, and it also narrows the clues down to fewer persons to check them against. This has to be done within the secure group I guess, so we don't out the real blues. Also, Ace could maybe give them specific tasks to prove their role? What that would be I don't really know. Obviously the too-many-reported-for-a-role-group wouldn't get the primeinfo about the secure group until all of them are in the clear.
Am I theorycrafting about this wrong?
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I knew about that one, what I meant was a more detailed list with google/wiki information regarding quotes/what their name mean/etc. I realize that would be a huge amounts of info to read and sort through and I know I wouldn't take the time to do it, that's why I'm asking .
Also I know I asked this too early since if someone compiled it they want it to be funneled through the, currently not confirmed, legit mayor who can't die the next day.
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On March 21 2008 04:09 Ace wrote: I don't think you get it:
If everyone sent me a PM saying their townie - GREAT.
Now when all the blues PM me I know they all match up and are 100% confirmed.
So now I knock 34 names off the suspect list, incorporate them into the network and all suspects are also on the "vanilla townie" list.
A PM that tells me "hi I'm townie" holds a lot of weight.
That assumes no inactivees tho doesnt it? Say for example that mafia takes a chance on a blue role that happens to be inactive, before the 3day rule sets in they could've gotten alot of information. Also, that all people actually pm you... which I doubt will happen just because of lack of interest following this thread thoroughly. The only sure way to have the secure group... secure... is to systematically confirm their roles through various means... no?
Or am I totally misunderstanding something here?
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On March 21 2008 04:23 Falcynn wrote: Then again the amount of information they could get by getting into this network is probably worth more than one mafia's life so...ok I'm not really sure how to feel about this right now.
Exactly what I want to avoid, losing because of a lucky move by mafia would suck. Ace says he can prevent that however. Can't really figure out how, guess I'll know by the time we have Ace confirmed and pms start flowing.
I just want the secure group to be as secure it can get, with no holes in the path securing it
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On March 21 2008 04:43 Ace wrote: first of all, even the people who I think are legit won't know any other persons roles. The only people that would have that list are myself and the Bodyguards.
K, I misinterpreted your "100% confirmed" statement in that case, sounded to me like they were cleared and ready to go or something.
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Why are people waiting for a dt to confirm? Wasn't the whole point that if no dt/bg speak up against Ace's townmanship he's considered legit?
Only thing we're waiting for is for the dts to have ample time to be sure they've done their thing. How long we wait is up to the masses I guess.
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On March 21 2008 10:45 ~OpZ~ wrote: about roleblock
That's assuming mafia can't roleblock eachother.. can they? Nothing in the OP says they can't roleblock other mafias. Would be nice if Chuiu could answer this otherwise the grand plan could've been to roleblock ace for "proof" and therefore get a shitload of info on blues.
Theorycrafting again, I'm pretty sure ace is legit myself, just getting my thoughts out there. I'd wait ~½-1day more before I'd completely trust him.
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not 100% but yeah most probably , I know I'm trusting him by then. Anyway, 3:26 time to sleep. (I've been f5ing this thread like crazy, nothing to do + forum game = ???)
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Ouch, all was well with greenies in the text... then I scrolled down. :| Gotta sleep (6am), catching up tomorrow with a fully awake brain.
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K, so, I copy-pasted the day posts into word and started to commentify them (mark a piece of text and then insert->comment) to then try and match each profile to the comments. I didn't finish that tho since when I was done marking the text I had 115 commentboxes. Matching each of the 123 profiles against 115 comments didn't really sound appealing to me. Anyway themes and things that I noticed while I read through the dayposts:
*Stomach or gut is mentioned several times. *Eddie's the leader type who don't hesitate in his actions. He's also protective of his friends and got good attention to details. *Sidewinder is a poor fighter, he seems pretty out of control overall regarding his body. *There's several moments when the victims meet the mafia "face to face" or "met gaze with". *Two references to being shot with lead. *Two references to hair, none linked to the same person, might just be coincidence. *Mr Pink seems very brutal, holding on to the TOP of Mynocks head (the other part had broken off from the shot), even using it as a weapon tangled up in his hair... wtf? Oh, that also means Mr Pink got long hair I guess. *Mr Blonde seems to be very fast and agile, also comes out of nowhere. *The Wolf and The Taipan Snake isn't afraid of taking risks, atleast not afraid of jumping from high heights. *Someone likes smileys, or sick jokes. *Someone tampers with electronics. *So far, mafia has always arrived in greater numbers then their victims. Could just be that they anticipated medics? *Atleast two mafias like to use knifes or a sword. Cottonmouth, whom is skilled and accurate knifeperson seems to not feel any remorse and don't feel particularly unsettled to leave someone bleeding to death in pain. Snake Charmer lashed away at a defenseless target. *Two times there's a reference to investigate something, probably not relevant. *Several times is the face/head the primetarget during the fights. *Two references to people crawling. *A few times it looks like the victim might be able to flee but is always caught/attacked from nowhere, as if their last hope is taken away.
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I think alot of these are pretty far fetched and links bad but whatever.
11-ieatkids5 in reference to Mr Pinks brutal behaviour?
Randombum/bumatlarge in reference to the "sickly looking fella"
57-LoStYouRSkiLLS Quote : Skill is when Luck becomes Habit Eddie was lucky with his attack.
89-butidigress Quote : between the click of the light and the start of the dream ... about the lamp etc.
97-suresh0t accurate with knifes guy.
98-decafchicken Quote : how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy? in reference to the gut/stomach thing,
109-MidnightGladius Quote : "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General in reference to sword/knifes, also in reference to the hope being taken away.
124-Lenwe Quote : What's up? in reference to face to face, met gaze with
128-KH1031 electronic themed name?
130-rpf Quote : "I'm sure God will understand, and if He does not, then He is not God at all." - Balian, Kingdom of Heaven in reference to the sentence "Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room --"
K, some of these was pretty bad, none really convinced me fully.
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On March 23 2008 02:29 ZBiR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2008 02:15 Lysithea wrote:*Mr Pink seems very brutal, holding on to the TOP of Mynocks head (the other part had broken off from the shot), even using it as a weapon tangled up in his hair... wtf? Oh, that also means Mr Pink got long hair I guess.
Nah, you're wrong. Mr Pink used Mynock's head like a flail, he was holding Mynock's long hair and hitting with his head (which was attached to his hair obv)
yeah, you're right, my imagination got the better of me.
It feels like I'm pretty bad at spotting clues and connections. None really convince me of anything unlike what others has come up with. I'll let people dig some before I cast my vote.
I should say that I won't dispute any clues pointing towards me, cause well.. my quote often match to many different situations combatwise. Trying to prove my innocence in all cases will only lead to more suspicion.. or so I feel about it anyway (thinking about poor l2w last game). I mean, I got the agile smooth moving part in it, I got the right precise moment, I got the fast hurtful hitting part and I also got the experienced part with Ali himself. To save you from a google/wiki search. My name originated from a series I watched, later learned it got something to do with greek history/greek mythology, also a moon of jupiter.
edit: bah I kinda defended myself now anyway.. heh
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I'm getting seriously annoyed reading all the bs from showtimed. Go die already.
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so uh, call me emo but this game feels less fun then the one I was spectating, dunno why really... maybe cause we actually got shit coordinated and not so much drama happening? Don't have much to say about the clues, most have been said already. I'll try to be more active next week or so got lots of shit to do. I really hope people stop playing against the rules if what Chuiu is saying is true.
Anyway.
I'm supposed to vote for wurm right? Wondering cause if I remember correct we were supposed to get a pm as well but I haven't got any. Voting for him for now...
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About the irc thing, if I remember correct Chuiu said last game that everything was fair game except for hacking TL.net accs and breaking the dead=you're out rule. They even encouraged it?.. or something. Atleast something not planned happened in the game, it's alive!
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On March 28 2008 22:53 Fishball wrote: I'm not allowed to say anything that is game effecting, such as analyzing clues, pointing out suspects, etc.
My post above is just pointing out the obvious for people who didn't read through entirely. Enough with the insults and "accusing" already. Not to me, but to other fellow players as a whole in this thread.
If you were in the first game, you would've seen I've posted a bit even after I died.
1. Once you are dead you may not post anything at all. People are getting irritated with dead people talking so sorry but dead people are now forbidden from talking during the game. People not playing are advised not to post in the thread also. Moderators please help out with this where you can, if players insist on continuing to post I'll just ban them from playing the game again.
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... and dapperdan dodging the messages or something.
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Thank god for plexa still being alive or else I'd lost track in this game long time ago.
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On April 11 2008 17:00 Plexa wrote:Lysithea you profile picture is so cool where did you get it from oh wow you stole my 5200th post haha
http://www.hybridworks.jp/ <- sort wallpapers, the theme I use is named "Yoritsuki". Dl the zip and you'll get the whole theme with icons, day/night wallpaper in diffrent sizes.
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I know I'm kinda defending myself here but I feel that what I said earlier doesn't apply to this clue since it's incorrect.
for reference to what I earlier stated: + Show Spoiler +On March 23 2008 02:57 Lysithea wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2008 02:29 ZBiR wrote:On March 23 2008 02:15 Lysithea wrote:*Mr Pink seems very brutal, holding on to the TOP of Mynocks head (the other part had broken off from the shot), even using it as a weapon tangled up in his hair... wtf? Oh, that also means Mr Pink got long hair I guess.
Nah, you're wrong. Mr Pink used Mynock's head like a flail, he was holding Mynock's long hair and hitting with his head (which was attached to his hair obv) yeah, you're right, my imagination got the better of me. It feels like I'm pretty bad at spotting clues and connections. None really convince me of anything unlike what others has come up with. I'll let people dig some before I cast my vote. I should say that I won't dispute any clues pointing towards me, cause well.. my quote often match to many different situations combatwise. Trying to prove my innocence in all cases will only lead to more suspicion.. or so I feel about it anyway (thinking about poor l2w last game). I mean, I got the agile smooth moving part in it, I got the right precise moment, I got the fast hurtful hitting part and I also got the experienced part with Ali himself. To save you from a google/wiki search. My name originated from a series I watched, later learned it got something to do with greek history/greek mythology, also a moon of jupiter. edit: bah I kinda defended myself now anyway.. heh
Now, about that clue pointing towards me. Someone saying that the moon Lysithea was red and then referencing to a pic called callist.jpg got me to google myself. While looking for pictures of the moon Lysithea (I havent found one yet that got color) I stumbled upon this site http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/planets/jupiter/moons.shtml where the exact same picture is used for the moon Callisto
Also, on that site they say: Lysithea is Jupiter's eleventh moon. Lysithea is 15 miles (24 km) in diameter and orbits 7,200,000 miles (11,720,000 km) from Jupiter. Lysithea has a mass of 8 x 1016kg. It orbits Jupiter in 259.22 (Earth) days. Very little is known about Lysithea. Lysithea was discovered by S. Nicholson in 1938.
The best picture I've found on the small Lysithea is on this page http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/nelson/jupmoons/jupmoons.html
I hope that's enough regarding that clue, if there's something else that might be pointed to me, by all means bring them up, at least it continues the search and investigation.
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red moon clue pointed at me was incorrect, that he still implied someone else then me still stands however.
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Ok just came home and there's been a lot of new, almost confirmed, mafias from what I can tell. I voted for drdragoon when the whole horse thing came to light but do we have a plan or something where I'm supposed to vote for someone specific?
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What does "*first vote*" stand for in that compiled votelist?
edit: ah, first person to vote for that person
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On April 21 2008 07:53 SoleSteeler wrote: Agh
I'm not mafia
Trust me
When I was accused before, I said not to look at one part of my name. Now I need to say soul stealer != SoleSteeler. SoleSteeler has nothing to do with draining life, or energy, or anything. We need to stick with the people we know are mafia, trust me, I am not mafia.
Cause trust is so much worth in this game , about the only thing one can do to prove their innocence is to find another person where the clues fit better... otherwise you're pretty much dead. Nature of the game.
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I see that I missed the last vote, not that it would matter anyhow.
+ Show Spoiler +Sheesh I'm not alone either; 33 of 85 possible votes accounted for. That's a lot of votes missing.
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So I'm up for lynching next? :| Well, not a big loss for town considering I'm not doing much anyway... just voting when I remember to check in. Way too many people this game to keep me interested to look for clues etc.
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Still here, not very much active as usual, atleast I'm still voting unlike 30 (?) others.
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For people like me that lost track of this game halfway through somewhere with a ridicolous postcount/day.
On July 22 2008 09:01 Bill307 wrote:IMPORTANT PREVIOUS POSTS (in chronological order) Who to vote for in the next two daysIf all goes according to plan: Day 21: vote for jtan Day 22: vote for KF91 Reasoning: don't want jtan to try to argue his way out again. If Mr. Blonde and Mr. Orange are still alive, and Mr. Blue is dead, then: Day 21: vote for KF91 Day 22: vote for HotZhot In the very unlikely case that we are wrongjtan and HotZhot are the top suspects. They are on the non-Mandalor list -- the list of people containing the remaining two mafia. Furthermore, they are among the 7 who voted for nemy on Day 18: jtan (on non-Mandalor list) hotzhot (on non-Mandalor list) kf91 (on non-Mandalor list) infinity21 (dead) siz.fantasy (dead) ahrara_ (on Mandalor list: proven innocent by iNfuNdiBuLuM's guilt) iNfuNdiBuLuM (confirmed mafia) Lynching KF91, jtan, and HotZhot should almost certainly win the game.
+ Show Spoiler [Sorted list of currently alive players…] +
People confirmed town through various lists from this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=6670&topic_id=67925
+ Show Spoiler +qrs ahrara_ Lysithea Ninja4ever. Romance_us NatsuTerran
iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter
0/7
HotZhot Dr.Dragoon CDRdude Puosu KF91 Kuja900 KorvspaD Ziel jtan RowdierBob DTDominion BuGzlToOnl
2/11
sorting the list with the currently alive people we get
ahrara_ Lysithea Ninja4ever. Romance_us NatsuTerran SoMuchBetter Eti307 Artanis Spoinka Wysp
2 of these are mafia: CDRdude (how did we confirm this again? someone please link to post describing why) HotZhot Dr.Dragoon Puosu KF91 Kuja900 KorvspaD Ziel RowdierBob DTDominion
Who I'll vote for in the next two days Day 22: vote for KF91 Day 23: vote for HotZhot
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Keep in mind that the clues pointing at jtan being Mr Blue turned out to be wrong. One of his last posts:
On July 22 2008 12:35 jtan wrote:ok, all jokes aside you wont take anything I say seriously at this point, but please read this when I'm confirmed innocent by either confirmation of mr Blue's death or by my own death. I'm going to bed now and the day might be up soon It is almost certainly going to show that mr Blue is dead, which means he cannot possibly be me however many clues you think you have. Then just make sure you vote KF91 and Hotzhot. If mr blue is by some magic alive or chuiu bitches with me and don't write the mafias akas day 21, I can't really do anything, I will be lynched. Just make sure KF91 and Hotzhot dies after me. pm people etc. The case against KF91 as orange is already strong Case against Hotzhot as blonde, by nemY, page 320: + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2008 15:03 nemY wrote:-Mr. Blond + Show Spoiler +Day 1 He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead
-displays superhuman speed -rammed into his target -possibly? Killed target. Day 2 Evening seemed to drag on forever as everyone worried over the turn of events the town faced. But when night finally came, the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen. Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Over at casa Mynock he was frying himself a late night snack and watching a rerun of the news from earlier that night. He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving straight into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. -came down from ceiling -was bashed in the face by target -target went to look for his shotgun but found only a smiley “” face in it’s place -eliminates target with shotgun before target could reach him
Day 5 Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. He could see d.arkive running through some corridors looking for someone, anyone. He found Hittegods. d.arkive ran towards Hittegods as he was examining some photos and hit a button. An explosion ripped apart nearly half of the building and it sent everyone outside ducking for cover as debris flew all over. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.
They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead.
-can talk -dodges the remains of a flying door -“jets” to his target, again with the super speed -soundly hits his target twice (one punch, one kick) -retreats when his target wields a weapon
Day 7 G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.
-mocks his target for his failures -wields a gun -again with the speed, he dodges his target’s attack and injures his target -eliminates his target with a gunshot to the head
Day 9
Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie.
-charges through the front door, which ends up shattering all the nearby/surrounding windows (assuming this is a convenience store with many windows) -stabs his target with 15 knifes, 3 in each arm, 3 in each leg, 2 in the chest, and 1 in the original location where he first stabbed his target (3x4)+2+1 = 15 -does not match Cottonmouth’s killing pattern (aside from the 15 knifes, Cottonmouth went 1 in the shoulder, 3 in one arm, 3 in both legs (which is 1+(3x3) = 10), and finished his target with 5 (in the shape of a pentagram) in his target’s chest (15 knifes total)
Day 13 Losing two members that day the mafia decided to pull all the stops and hit the town where it mattered. They were through messing around and Mr. Orange, Eddie, and Mr. Blonde were about to prove that by taking out Fanatacist and Ace once and for all. Ace and Fanatacist were sitting at a desk going over detective files trying to find the remaining few mafia when the three barged into the room. Ace quickly grabbed the phone to call for backup but it was too late as Mr. Orange had landed a dagger right on the phone line cutting him off. Mr. Blonde shot across the room and grabbed all the notes dumping them into a trash bin nearby. He lit a match and set the whole thing on fire hoping this was the last copy the town had to go off. Mr. Orange, Mr. Blonde and Eddie all got out pistols and fired round after round at Ace and Fanatacist who were helpless to stop them. Eddie went up to Ace and he was terrified as Eddie finished him off but firing one last round into his head.
-again with the speed, Mr. Blonde “shoots” across the room -burns the town’s notes -pulls out a pistol and finishes the two targets with the combined help from Eddie, and Mr. Orange
Day 15] Cottonmouth organized a strike force of mafia to take on a few troublesome townies who had the tendency to keep watches at night. With three mafia it would be sufficient enough to take on three regular joes. So he, along with the Wolf and Mr. Blonde, went to Jimtudor's house and broke in. This automatically set off their home made alarm system and the mafia squelched it right after but the damage was done and they were alerted to mafia presence. Supah, Alethios, and Jimtudor got ready with their handmade weapons, aware that most of the time Mafia did not carry weapons favoring to kill without alerting the neighborhood to their presence. Cottonmouth expecting more trouble went back to his car and handed five plumbata's to each of his comrades. Prepared for the fight to come they burst through the basement door and each threw one at their targets. Two missed and one hit a garbage can lid that Supah was using as a shield. The townies made their counter attack, the stairs leading down to the basement collapsed and the mafia came crashing down hard stunning and injuring them. Not enough though as they were able to ward off the crude melee weapons the town had fashioned from a yard rake, a baseball bat, and a broken chain. Mr. Blonde was able to grab a hold of the yard rake Supah was using and kicked it to break it in half, the Wolf grabbed hold of the chain and pulled it out of Jimtudor's hand then flung it to the side and tossed one of his remaining darts in his shoulder, and Cottonmouth deflected Alethios baseball bat and stabbed him in the foot with a dart. Mr. Blonde threw two plumbata's at Supah and then used the broken off rake handle and stabbed him with it, he then finished off Supah by stabbing a dart into his face. The Wolf lunged for the chain and wrapped it around Jimtudor's leg, then he pulled hard and caused him to fall to the ground. Cottonmouth finished off Alethios by stabbing the rest of the darts into his chest. And the three ganged up on Jimtudor and plunged their remaining darts into his face.
-trips the alarm system (well all 3 of them do) -throws a plumbata but misses all 3 of the targets -grabs hold of the yard rake his target was using and breaks it in half by kicking it (possibly requiring some speed/force/strength to do this, it’s hard to recreate an accurate visual in my mind of this scene) -distracts his target by throwing two plumbata’s into at his target and then uses the broken yard rake to stab his target -finishes his target by stabbing him in the face with a plumbata -assists his other two mafia members in eliminating the final target when they all stab the remaining darts into the target’s face
Day 17 In the dark shed in ShaLLoW[baY]'s backyard Mr. Blonde gleefully waiting in silence clutching his weapon. ShaLLoW[baY] made his way to the shed slowly inspecting his petunias after the storm had passed. He was shocked to say the least when he opened the door. Mr. Blonde swatting ShaLLoW[baY] with the front end of the yard tool causing him to stumble backward into a trap Mr. Blonde had set of several nails on the ground. Having punctured his foot on a rather rusty one ShaLLoW[baY] began hopping frantically trying to pry the devil from his foot as he screamed in pain. Mr. Blonde used this opportunity to maneuver himself behind his victim and he killed ShaLLoW[baY] in one swift vengeful blow by shoving the rake up his ass.
-“gleefully” waits for his target with his weapon -sets a trap for his target -smacks his target with a yard rake causing his target to fall back onto some rusty nails (the trap) -eliminates his target by raping him with the rake -kills his target with a “swift vengeful blow” (rape raking), again with the speed and power
My suspect for Mr. Blonde = HotZhot Why? For a number of reasons -claims to have known who the true Mr. Blonde is, but has revealed 0 relevant information -his profile picture comes from an anime, most notably a hentai that GranDim found out on page 184 Show nested quote +On April 04 2008 12:37 GranDim wrote:+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.
The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Traits- One shot kill - targets the head HotZhot is my primary suspect here. Notably because he has such good aim and whatnot. However, i am hesitant to convict him at this stage because of this; His profile image looks like a wolf person - this means (imo) that he cannot be the character "The Wolf" with such a strong connection to the name. Up to the town i guess! More on the picture Its a crop from this wallpaper The character is from a hentai series http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1524,rfykgv,maho_shojo_ai.html (work safe link). However I doubt this has much relevance, unless chuiu is heavily into anime wallpapers or hentai he couldn't have made that link. most specifically if you read the link you'll notice this, Show nested quote +Yuragi noticed Akitoshi and began to attack him. Then, the fighter, Ai, appeared and cut them down. the fighter comes out of nowhere and eliminates the target, this I feel bodes well with the whole theme of Mr. Blonde displaying superhuman speed. -his name, HotZhot which can be interpreted to mean "Hot Shot" fits well with the Day 7 and 9 killings, why? Because people who are "Hot Shots" are generally stuck up and full of themselves + Show Spoiler +consider that with Mr. Blonde's mocking of Naruto and his desire to "get everyone's attention in the double murder or Amor and Alvientene" -the "i only smile in the dark" connects well with Day 2's killing of Mynock and Day 17's killing of Shallow[bay] (gleefully --> smiling in the dark) -the raping of shallow[bay] connects very well with the overall hentai theme of his profile picture ;/ FlawsLooking back on it, the smiley face in Day 2 was almost certainly Clazzaquai's doing, his profile quote was something like "me from kirbati, no speak english^^';" As most everyone on here knows, "^^;" is a korean/anime face for smiling =/ ConclusionRegardless how you guys feel about this, I think it's safe to say the mirror theory is flawed. Mr. Blonde has yet to directly mirror anyone's actions. I'm still working on a few other viable leads =/ HotZhots voting record ( --- =abstain or no vote) + Show Spoiler + 1.--- 2.--- 3.--- 4.--- 5.Siefu/EvilMonkey 6.--- 7.L/ulzz 8.generalstan 9.DamageControl/Rowdierbob 10.--- 11.--- 12.--- (said "why is people voting for randombum" in vote thread) 13.--- (said "missed the last vote" in this vote thread even though he posted in prev. thread...a little weird) 14.Bockit 15.--- 16.--- 17.Somuchbetter 18.nemY 19.Bugztooni 20.---
Participated in some of the votes against mafia, but otherwise voted green (as far as we know now)
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just for the record, if one of them turns green, I'm gonna be completely lost. Time to check those clues in that case. However, with my last three posts I'm probably dead by night or the night after seeing how mafia targets anyone who post anything that could help town. Hooray for acting sacrificial lamb!
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updated
sorting the list with the currently alive people we get
ahrara_ Lysithea Ninja4ever. Romance_us NatsuTerran SoMuchBetter Artanis Spoinka Wysp
1 of these are mafia: CDRdude (how did we confirm this again? someone please link to post describing why) HotZhot Dr.Dragoon Puosu KorvspaD Ziel RowdierBob DTDominion [b]
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I survived! gg mafia.
Scorch I don't think people really got bored, well some did I'm sure, but the huge postcount start to midgame was just too much to read for a lot of people. There was no way for me to find the time to keep up whilst analyzing clues etc. For me this mafia round became "read some lists, find a got target to vote for" game after the first weeks. I really tried to contribute but I realized it was futile to keep up if I couldn't find the time I needed. I have to thank all the people that posted easy to read posts with explanations and such, it really kept me in the game voting.. even though I missed a couple of votes, my fault some of them, atleast one due to me being gone.
looking forward to the writeups from mafia/town with roles etc!
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