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[GSTL] Round One - Day 3 Recap/Day 4 Preview
Ah, the GSTL we know and love is back. With a large number of series going all nine games last season, it was disconcerting to see the action end so quickly on the first two days. ZeNEX and SlayerS-EG fought fiercely in a series that was decided in an ace-match, where unexpected Ace, EG.JYP took down ZeNEX's Extreme.
Next up is an elimination match, as Liquid takes on NSH!
GSTL kicks off tonight at 09:10 GMT (+00:00).
– SlayerS-EG defeats ZeNEX 5 – 4 in nail-biterMatch results from Live Report Thread by Dodgin.+ Show Spoiler [Results] +SlayerS-EG became the first team to advance to the second round from preliminary group A, overcoming a spirited challenge from underdogs ZeNEX after trailing 1 – 3 halfway through the match. Life was once again at the head of the charge for ZeNEX, scoring three early wins over SlayerS-EG, while also taking down his second ace in two days with a victory over SlayerS_MMA. Though Life's rampage was eventually stopped, SlayerS were pushed to the verge of defeat when Line defeated Puzzle to make the score 4 – 3 in ZeNEX's favor. With MMA and Puzzle already defeated, it was not a SlayerS player, but Evil Geniuses' JYP who was charged with saving the day. SlayerS' faith in their partner proved to be very well placed, as JYP came through with two clutch performances to rescue the team. After using warp prism and voidray tactics to defeat Line, he continued to roll over Extreme in the final, deciding match of the night. SlayerS-EG now moves on to Group A in the second round, joining Prime, Mvp, and one yet to be determined team from the other qualifier group (containing LG-IM, TSL, and Fnatic). ZeNEX gets one more chance to qualify for the next round, and they will await the winner of Team Liquid vs New Star HoSeo in the final match of the group. Player of the match: EG.JYPLife deserves a special mention for tearing apart MMA right after defeating HerO, but the real star of the night was Evil Geniuses' JYP. He had all the pressure in the world on him coming out as the final runner with two opponents to beat, but his micro and execution were largely on point as he delivered in the clutch. Terran snipers will be a problem for JYP, but with his great skill at PvZ and PvP, he's sure to continue being a great asset for SlayerS-EG down the line. Now, if he would only start doing the same for Evil Geniuses... Game of the night: Game Four - MMA vs Life Though it was a nine game series, none of the games were particularly great. Once a player had the lead, he didn't let go, and the games ended up playing out fairly mundanely. You may as well check out MMA vs Life, to see how a rising Zerg star was able to take down MMA in a ZvT, on Antiga Shipyard of all maps. by NrGmonkWhere They StandTeam Liquid came off their last match looking fairly feeble after being all-killed by the supposedly weakest Korean team in GSTL. Their only win came from a shaky looking Zenio in a game where his opponent had an advantage and squandered it away. Their ace, Hero, could not even take one map in his best matchup on a favorable map. Jinro, in his return to the GSL stage, did not get to show his gameplay as he was caught unprepared by some of the fastest mutalisks we’ve ever seen. The twin foreigner Zergs, Haypro and Code A qualifier finalist TLO, were able put up a good fight, but looked outclassed by Life in the end. That’s one way to look at it, but the other, more glass half full outlook taken by some Liquid members, is that it was a valuable learning and team-bonding experience. Another plus going for Liquid is that Taeja will be joining Liquid’s ranks in their next match, an addition that will surely boost both Team Liquid’s spirits and actual strength as a team. ***** New Star HoSeo, in their match versus Slayers, looked like an incomplete team. They questionably sent out their ace, Jjakji, to beat one of Slayers’ weaker players. After Jjakji lost, NSH found themselves in a difficult situation to try to take out Puzzle. They initially tried sending out San in a PvP on an unfamiliar map with a tricky strategy and then sent out Sting, a player that just seemed outclassed by the solid and complete Puzzle. Finally when that failed, NSH was forced to send out their last remaining best player, Seal, in his worst matchup, crossing their fingers that he could get a miracle win and then have a good chance versus Slayers’ last player, MMA. In summary, we learned that day that NSH struggles with solid Protosses such as Puzzle, as Jjakji is the only one with a particularly good versus Protoss match-up on the team. With Hero, a recent round of 4 Code S Protoss, leading the charge for Liquid, this could prove to be a problem for the New Stars. Players of InterestTeam Liquid: TaeJaTaeja must have been disappointed yesterday when he got off his plane, coming home from the Red Bull Battlegrounds, only to learn that his team lost in such disappointing fashion without him in their first team league match. His return, however, puts Team Liquid’s roster count up to slightly less anemic six and gives them two top level Code S players. Hero will be especially relieved as now the burden of the team won’t all be on his shoulders. Taeja’s experience in the GSTL will also prove valuable as he is known for all-killing two teams in his GSTL run with Slayers. NSH: SealNSH’s success in team leagues has always been a team effort. In every match they’ve won, a different player was the MVP. However, one player stands out as extremely reliable. Every time a high level Terran , Seal will be sent out to clean him up, and a vast majority of the time, he wins and goes on to win even more games. I know you guys like the GSL statistics GOM posts during their matches. Here’s one I researched on my own. When NSH first broke out on the scene, they sent Seal as either the starter or against Protoss where he went 0-2. Since then, they have learned their lesson and almost exclusively been sending him out against Terrans and in all the team leagues(GSTL, IPL TAC, KSL) thus far, he is 10-4 when sent out against a Terran while having an overall 1-4 record when sent out against Protoss. This does not include the numerous Terrans and Zergs he’s gone on the kill after he wins his first game. It is clear that Seal has an extremely strong matchup in ZvT and an extremely weak matchup in ZvP. He has even admitted in an interview that his ZvP was his reason for not being as successful as he could be. However, ZvP aside, Seal’s prowess at ZvT makes him an excellent counter, a sniper even, against Liquid’s new hope Terran hope Taeja. The AcesTeam Liquid: Liquid`HerOWhile Hero did not perform well in his last match, he is still widely considered to be Team Liquid’s ace. Hero will be trying to exploit NSH’s weakness against solid Protoss I had touched on earlier, but I would argue that he will have a harder time than Puzzle did. The biggest problem is that Hero has a definite weakness to Protoss, a race which has knocked him out of many major tournaments. He was recently knocked out of the IPL tournament of champions 0-6 by CreatorPrime, knocked out of IPL4 by Huk, and knocked out the GSL 0-3 by Squirtle. A Protoss sniper killing Hero seems much more plausible than one taking out Puzzle. In addition, Puzzle, while having relatively poor results for his skills, is regarded by Koreans as an extremely strong player, with MC saying that he has top 2 PvT in the world, along with Parting. While Hero probably is at least very close to that skill in PvT, this highlights another potential problem for Hero. Jjakji, a Terran and Hero’s biggest threat, took Puzzle to a very close game on a Protoss favored map, so he’ll be a very formidable challenge for Hero to overcome. Finally, Hero’s biggest strength, his legendary PvZ will be less useful versus NSH. NSH’s Seal has weak ZvP, and NSH’s other Zerg, Freaky, while showing very interesting play, does not have enough proven games or experience to pose a very plausible change to Hero. NSH: JjakjiAs the best player on NSH with the best overall results, Jjakji is the de facto ace, even if he usually performs around the same level as Seal in team leagues. However, you could argue that Jjakji is a more rounded player and Seal’s sniper-esque skillset is more suited for team leagues. Being the best, most well rounded player on a team, put a bit of pressure on you, however, as while his lesser teammates can usually pick up a win off of better players on paper, it is up to Jjakji to win more than that in order to generate the five wins required to win a match. We saw this in NSH’s last match where after Jjakji fell after getting NSH ahead, NSH struggled immensely to close out the match. In some ways, Jjakji’s role of ace is less significant against Liquid, a team with not as many strong, solid players, who NSH’s supporting cast should be favored over. On the other hand, however, JJakji is still NSH’s best chance to take out the opposing ace, Hero. PredictionGiven the proclivities of both teams, the matchup preferences of the players, and the small size of Liquid’s roster, I think this match will go rather predictably, centered around the aforementioned four players, Hero and Taeja from Team Liquid and Jjakji and Seal from NSH. Somewhere in the middle of the match, Taeja will be sent out from Liquid. Seal will try to take him out, and Hero will be sent to avenge Taeja. Then, Jjakji will swoop in to attempt to save his team. Whichever team can somehow surprise and break that chain of predictable events will have an almost insurmountable advantage and most probably win the match. However, given that Team Liquid has weaker backup players in comparison to NSH and the fact that this imaginary simulation I’ve cooked up in my head favors NSH, I’m going to have to give the Korean based team the match. NSH 5 - 3 TL
Writers: NrGmonk, Waxangel. Graphics: Pathy. Editor: Waxangel.
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never fear: Taeja is here
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My greatest expectation is to see Jinro play for at least 20 minutes. TL gonna get stomped anyway.
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Hmm...I think with Taeja they have a better shot, but I believe it will be a similar result to last match. We'll see though.
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Your write ups are always good, but personally I think this one overestimates TL a little bit.
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Send taeja first. He will just rack up kills until hes out.
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5-2 in NSH's favour >_>
But, let me dream for a moment: + Show Spoiler +Jinro All-Kills NSH....... (*-*)!
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Can't root against Jjakji's team, sorry T_T Hope to see some awesome games whatever the winner tho.
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I hope for NSHS to advance, but my GSTL heart will be broken either way.
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Hero was oGs's ace a few times. He was pretty clutch wasn't he?
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TaeJa can definitely take out both Seal and Jjakji, he might be sent out as ace
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I can't wait for the Banjo all-kill. Come on, you all know it is coming!
In reality, I think that it is right on key with the fact of those top four contenders, but TLO has a big chance to pull out a win or two, and even Jinro has a fairly good chance, I believe, (I mean, he has taken a game off of every player in his NASL group, save Polt) and I think that he can get a kill or two if he plays his top game (though, that could probably be said about anybody on Liquid).
On paper, NSHS has the advantage, but I still can see it go either way - upsets are very possible when Liquid is playing. Go Liquid!
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TL Really disappointed me that last time, but I'M getting my hopes back up as TeaJa is now playing as well. still, maybe hero and TaeJa will win ONE or two games, but there is just not enough backup in the roster, as stated in the article ^^
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I actually think TL can take this series handily. HerO/Taeja are better than anyone on NSH. When was the last time Jjakji has shown top level play? I mean don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but his GSL-winning greatness was kind of a flash in the pan.
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Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬
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Hate to say it... But I agree w/ the prediction. Come on TL!!!
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Slayers can definitely win this, would be nice if they sent Huk or Thorzain but I guess they want to win ;-;
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eveyone under rates zenio ~_~
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On May 31 2012 01:51 McFeser wrote: Hero was oGs's ace a few times. He was pretty clutch wasn't he? I think you're thinking of HuK. The only game I remember of HerO was him playing in the starting match, and that match happened to be the first to I saw mass Collosi (HerO) die to Chargelot Immotal Archon (Other Protoss). That and the beatdown DRG gave him.
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On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote: Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬
You're not biased at all ^_^
Taeja and Hero need to come through for TL badly or they are just going to lose again as bad as it feels to say it.
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I wonder who is going to all kill liquid tomorrow :D
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i think TL has a very good chance if TLO has a good day.
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Realistically, I feel that HerO and Taeja are both more solid all-around players than anyone on NSH, so I anticipate it being a good match. I think the match will be decided by how well the supporting players from each team will play. All of the liquid players have shown flashes of brilliance, and I'm more than confident in Zenio and TLOs skills and I would love to see Jinro and Haypro play well and take a game off NSH!
Bottom line: I set my alarm for the last Liquid GSTL match (2:15am here TT) but fell asleep before it came on... I will be watching this time and I know the boys in blue will show the GSTL their strength! Liquid Fighting!
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On May 31 2012 02:05 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote: Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬ You're not biased at all ^_^ Taeja and Hero need to come through for TL badly or they are just going to lose again as bad as it feels to say it.
Not in the slightest =)
After all he took out SlayerS Zerg ace, their Terran Ace, and had to get sniped by their Protoss Ace (after beating their reliable Protoss protege). Most kills, important opponents, impressive fashion. Unfortunately Puzzle got in his way and once Puzzle failed it was down to the scraps to see who could get luckiest on the day =p
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I was kinda disappointed at Life vs Puzzle game, it seemed like Life didn't even bother to try to win that game, i was really hoping for an all kill i guess.
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On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote: Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬
I agree.
I believe it all comes down to Hero´s nerves. I don´t believe that there are many Protoss with equally strong PvP given Heros incredible mechanics and micro.
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Is Sage still in NSH?! He didnt get mentioned once and he is one of the best Protosses overall!!!!!!!!
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gogo TL with taeja back all they need is hero not to get sniped too early
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The GSTL scheduling (and format) seems to be getting more awful every season. =/
Why not at least have group B play the first round before continuing with Group A?
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On May 31 2012 02:35 MooLen wrote: Is Sage still in NSH?! He didnt get mentioned once and he is one of the best Protosses overall!!!!!!!!
He is still the team captain, but we dont get to see him play that much, maybe he is in more of a management role now?
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On May 31 2012 02:38 Talin wrote: The GSTL scheduling (and format) seems to be getting more awful every season. =/
Why not at least have group B play the first round before continuing with Group A?
The problem is if they do 2 groups concurrently, players do not have any significant time off (3-5 days), that means big ticket player would probably choose foreign tournaments instead, while support players don't have a chance to compete outside Korea until the team is out of GSTL.
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Didn't think it would have been so close. Zenex is the worst Korean SC2 team IMO, and by a fairly significant margin....
That said, I agree with the prediction. NSH is a very strong team.
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On May 31 2012 02:51 Havik_ wrote: Didn't think it would have been so close. Zenex is the worst Korean SC2 team IMO, and by a fairly significant margin....
That said, I agree with the prediction. NSH is a very strong team.
Honestly It's MMA's fault that it was so close, he went out to snipe Life on Antiga and got crushed.
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Come on, Liquid, show what you can do! Step it up, beat NsHoSeo, and then take revenge on ZeNEX!
I hope everyone on the team in Korea is at the house right now and that you've been practising and analyzing together a lot. Maybe ask Artosis to come in as a coach and support in the studio for you guys?
Liquid hwaiting!
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I want to see an actual foreigner team competing in the GSTL. Teamliquid is 3/5 Koreans, and basically all their hopes rely on those 3 performing well. EG partnered with SlayerS, so there's that. Fnatic is in the same boat as Liquid. :-( The only hope is that Stephano for some reason travels to Korea, and gets to compete alongside TSL. He's the only one foreigner that has ace-like potential for any of the Korean teams.
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On May 31 2012 02:33 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote: Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬ I agree. I believe it all comes down to Hero´s nerves. I don´t believe that there are many Protoss with equally strong PvP given Heros incredible mechanics and micro. Hero has fairly bad PvP compared to his other matchups, I would bet on loads of PvP snipers against him if it came down to that. I don't think Hero is gonna be as useful to TL this GSTL as people think he will be, he is an obvious threat but seems easily snipeable.
Edit: Post 5555! I feel like I should have done something more significant.
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Life is TEARING it up, jesus.
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Really hope Liquid can somehow pull through but it's gonna be pretty damn tough.
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Taeja and HerO really need to pull through if Liquid wants to win this match. Predicting 5-2 NSH
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Taeja or HerO needs to take 3 matches for Liquid to have a chance. NSH is a very balanced team, Liquid needs a...(wait for it).....heroic performance from their ace to advance
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So if TL now wins tonight's match, do you get fired as a TL writer for going against them?
And can someone clarify, the loser of this match is out of the GSTL, and the other 3 teams are in?
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gogo TL! you can do this!
also mad props to JYP! i always knew he was a strong player
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Elimination match? I'd like to see TL go a little further in this GSTL. Liquid hwaiting!
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On May 31 2012 03:59 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote: So if TL now wins tonight's match, do you get fired as a TL writer for going against them?
And can someone clarify, the loser of this match is out of the GSTL, and the other 3 teams are in?
Loser of tonight's match is eliminated, while the winner faces Zenex. The winner of that match advances along with Slayers-EG, while the loser is eliminated as well.
So if TL wins, they rematch against Zenex, and if they beat Zenex then, TL advances to group stage 2 and Zenex is eliminated.
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Great write up!
This GSTL Season has been really exciting so far im really looking forward to the next match! Come on liquid you got this!!
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TLO is quite an amazing player, I expect great things from him tomorrow.
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On May 31 2012 03:20 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 02:33 Aunvilgod wrote:On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote: Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬ I agree. I believe it all comes down to Hero´s nerves. I don´t believe that there are many Protoss with equally strong PvP given Heros incredible mechanics and micro. Hero has fairly bad PvP compared to his other matchups, I would bet on loads of PvP snipers against him if it came down to that. I don't think Hero is gonna be as useful to TL this GSTL as people think he will be, he is an obvious threat but seems easily snipeable. Edit: Post 5555! I feel like I should have done something more significant. If only NSH had anything that resembled a PvP sniper.
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I love the Beatles references <3 great article
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So happy with JYP pulling a win last night! ;D Let's go Liquid!! With Taeja back, Liquid has 2 good aces. GL!!
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Is puzzle like a terrible guy irl? It seems every time one of these articles mentions him it's either negative or a backhanded compliment - pretty odd for a guy with 2 GSL top 8s on his resume. maybe i'm imagining it though
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On May 31 2012 02:52 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 02:51 Havik_ wrote: Didn't think it would have been so close. Zenex is the worst Korean SC2 team IMO, and by a fairly significant margin....
That said, I agree with the prediction. NSH is a very strong team. Honestly It's MMA's fault that it was so close, he went out to snipe Life on Antiga and got crushed. On a similar note, I don't think that was even close to the game of the night... the PvT between Puzzle and Harrier was an actual close game with back and forth Give PvT the respect it sometimes deserves!
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On May 31 2012 05:29 Tayar wrote: Is puzzle like a terrible guy irl? It seems every time one of these articles mentions him it's either negative or a backhanded compliment - pretty odd for a guy with 2 GSL top 8s on his resume. maybe i'm imagining it though Eh they mentioned multiple times in the preview or cast by Khaldor/Wolf(I forget which) that Zenex feared him about all else.
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Common TLO you can do it!
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no gstl on the calendar yet TT
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Jinro's got this all-kill
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On May 31 2012 02:20 TheFlock wrote: Realistically, I feel that HerO and Taeja are both more solid all-around players than anyone on NSH, so I anticipate it being a good match. I think the match will be decided by how well the supporting players from each team will play. All of the liquid players have shown flashes of brilliance, and I'm more than confident in Zenio and TLOs skills and I would love to see Jinro and Haypro play well and take a game off NSH!
Bottom line: I set my alarm for the last Liquid GSTL match (2:15am here TT) but fell asleep before it came on... I will be watching this time and I know the boys in blue will show the GSTL their strength! Liquid Fighting!
These Matches are at 6:10 am here. Doesn't matter, I stay up for them anyways.
I'm pretty confidant that TLO can snipe Jjakji which I think throws this a little TL favoured. Zenio is a top tier player as well and should be able to pick up a win or two. Honestly I'm most curious who TL's fifth man will be if they need him, it seems close between Jinro and HayprO.
I really wish the whole team was in korea so that Ret, Sheth and NonY could add some variety to the depth of the line-up.
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Im hoping fore Zenio to show some great games.
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im expecting good games from now on :D
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I know we'll talk about JYP's and his clutch victories for SlayerS but in my opinion the player that stands above everyone so far in this season has to be Life. Besides the all kill against TL the kid also managed to take out MMA and some change from SlayerS. Watch out for him to peak and gain some global recognition this season.
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True that, Life poised to be the Squirtle of this season
Still very impressed by JYP's performance last night; didn't know he had it in him~
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Hero reverse all kill. gogogogogo
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On May 31 2012 02:05 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote: Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬ You're not biased at all ^_^ Taeja and Hero need to come through for TL badly or they are just going to lose again as bad as it feels to say it.
We may be biased but JYP got almost a little bit lucky that line did not scout the prism. I mean yeah JYP cleared out the ovies but that push always kills zergs when they don't scout it so why not put a ling there or something ;p JYP also got the absolute best scenario possible in PvP, Stargate vs Robo, then Extreme build a robo bay and he was sooooooooooo far behind. Not to take anything away from JYP because he is a great great player but I do not think that he deserved man of the match ;p
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You got this TL gogo we love all you just play your best and you cant lose. Liquid FIGHTING!!!
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TLO will break Jjakji ! His ZvT ist awesome right now, i'm thrilled :D
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On May 31 2012 01:36 SeeKeR wrote:T-T.... No All Kill this time please..... TL LET'S DO THIS!!!! Great write up as always
Pfft I want to see and All Kill.
(Jinro All Killing NSHS )
Kick some arse TL.
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Last time prediction 5-4 TL, real score 5-1 TL This time 5-3 TL, real score 5-0 TL?
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seriously doubt Seal can beat TaeJa.. Seal's ZvT is his best matchup but TaeJa's TvZ is his best too
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I say at least 4 points for Liquid, but I'm not sure for the fifth...
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seriously doubt Seal can beat TaeJa.. Seal's ZvT is his best matchup but TaeJa's TvZ is his best too
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Can't help but agree with the prediction. TL just doesn't have the depth needed to make a good run at the GSTL yet. Soon.
Soon.......
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Taeja to the rescue! I hope TL can stick around longer in this GSTL.
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Come on ZeNEX you can do this! Fighting!
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C'mon TL you got this! Hopefully Taeja can force a couple kills!
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Despite TL getting all-killed against Zenex, I think they still have a shot. NSHS is a pretty strong team though, and Seal is an absolute beast, but I was pretty impressed with play by TLO recently and if he can pick up a win as well as getting a strong performance from two of their three Koreans on their roster they just might be able to pull this out.
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On May 31 2012 02:23 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 02:05 Dodgin wrote:On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote: Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬ You're not biased at all ^_^ Taeja and Hero need to come through for TL badly or they are just going to lose again as bad as it feels to say it. Not in the slightest =) After all he took out SlayerS Zerg ace, their Terran Ace, and had to get sniped by their Protoss Ace (after beating their reliable Protoss protege). Most kills, important opponents, impressive fashion. Unfortunately Puzzle got in his way and once Puzzle failed it was down to the scraps to see who could get luckiest on the day =p Riiight JYP is scraps who got lucky lmfao ok funny joke
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Liquid just don't have the supporting players to win. Any of NSH's players could cause an upset and take the win for NSH. Liquid are relying too much on a couple of players.
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I believe in TL!
Taeja, Hero, and Zenio all pack a hefty punch, and TLO is definitely no slouch. Add Jinro (who will have a better chance to practice, unlike their match against Zenex) and Haypro, and you have solid support that can always cause an upset.
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In TL, In Hero. I believe!
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On May 31 2012 10:29 DcTceremony wrote: Liquid just don't have the supporting players to win. Any of NSH's players could cause an upset and take the win for NSH. Liquid are relying too much on a couple of players.
Yeah i think in the GSTL anyone can take down anyone. Relying solely on Taeja and Hero won't be good.
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Ren's Team Strategy Recommendations
TLPD Stats for the TL 6 (Korean Database, 2012/1/1 - present) + Show Spoiler + Taeja (T - code S) vT 66.67% vZ 81.58% vP 58.33%
Hero (P - code S) vT 76.92% vZ 68.75% vP 33.33%
Zenio (Z - code A) vT 36.84% vZ 62.50% vP 50.00%
Jinro vT 61.54% vZ 15.38% vP 50.00%
TLO data set too small
Haypro data set too small
Taeja looks well-rounded with some very good TvZ. Hero has that noted weakness vP, but to be fair, it was a small sample size and his losses were to Squirtle and Puzzle (and a 2-1 victory vs JYP)... NSHS can't send out that quality of PvPer. He also has very solid vT snipe potential. Zenio has a surprising weakness vT, but solid vZ. Jinro is surprisingly solid vT, but extremely weak vZ. TLO and Haypro are still new to the Korean competitive scene (this time around), but recent belief is that TLO is getting pretty strong.
TLPD Stats for NSHS's Top 7 (Korean Database, 2012/1/1 - present) + Show Spoiler + Jjakji (T - code A) vT 52.27% vZ 61.11% vP 50.00%
Seal (Z - code A) vT 42.11% vZ 100.00% vP 40.00%
Freaky (Z - code A) vT 57.14% vZ 50.00% vP 42.86%
San (P) vT 50.00% vZ 37.50% vP 76.92%
Tassadar (P) vT 50.00% vZ 33.33% vP 68.75%
Sculp (T) vT 55.56% vZ 50.00% vP 25.00%
Sting (T) vT 36.36% vZ 35.29% vP 52.17%
NSHS has no code S players this season and 3 code A players. Jjakji is okay in all matchups with some vZ snipe potential. Seal's ZvZ seems really solid and should be a concern, but is below average in the other two matchups. Freaky is a bit of an unknown code A with a slight preference for vT and a slight weakness to vP. San and Tassadar have almost mirror stats and while both look like high quality PvP snipers, the opponents in those matches were mostly low Code A and Code B. The coach even had more faith in Sting (TvP favored, but weak overall) instead of Tassadar as a PvP sniper against Puzzle last match. That only leaves Sculp left to talk about who has a glaring vP weakness, but is otherwise decent.
Liquid Game Plan NSHS top two are strong versus Zerg. Unfortunately for Liquid, half their lineup is Zerg. This will probably be a week to play Jinro over Haypro to limit the Zerg presence to TLO and Zenio. Freaky is a good starting player (well-rounded) so expect to play vs Z first. I like a Zenio start again for TL with a good chance of picking up the ZvZ win. NSHS would likely want to play a terran vs Zenio and that may force out Jjakji very early (Sculp would be a decent play at that point as well). If NSHS plays Jjakji with 4 spots left on TL, I like an attempt by Jinro to take him out. Jinro has some pretty good TvT and an okay chance to take out Jjakji, but the real goal is to force a long TvT and give Taeja a good look at what he will be facing. If Jinro fails to win, I like sending TLO next for another potential snipe, despite being ZvT strength vs TvZ strength (you don't want to send TLO out 4th or 5th with Seal still on the bench, but he could be held for later if Seal goes down early). If Jjakji is still standing, it'd be time to send in Hero (leaving Taeja as an ace). Hopefully Jjakji will be taken out before Hero. If so, I prefer Hero as the final boss (though I don't have a good reason why). I don't see Seal as a huge threat to TL with Taeja and Hero sitting on very nice vZ records at the end of the TL lineup. PLEASE DON'T PLAY TAEJA AND HERO TOO EARLY. So the real question is whether or not TL can beat the NSHS protosses. TL isn't particularly strong vs protoss, but with Taeja and Hero as the final two bosses, I feel like they should be able to take out the code B (maybe low A) protoss threat NSHS throws at them.
Honestly, TL has two Code S and one high Code A/low S players and NSHS isn't close to that. At this point, ZENEX is ahead of NSHS in terms of player ability, they just don't have the name recognition yet. Picking off Hero or Taeja in one game isn't a huge upset. Picking off both of them if they're played as the final two bosses (in either order) would be a huge upset.
TLDR: Play Zenio first, follow with Jinro in almost all cases, TLO 3rd, and save Taeja and Hero for last two (if vs Jjakji, go Hero 4th, otherwise Taeja 4th). If anyone can get through those two in order, they deserve the win.
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Liquid totally has this. HerO Taeja TLO Jinro ZeniO Haypro Fighting!!!!!!
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5-1 probably- I would love to see a longer series though!
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that's not something you see everyday..MMA losing to a zerg
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Taeja will do an all-kill i hope
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It's going to be a tough match for Liquid.
I hope they send out TLO first though, and hopefully not in a zvz.
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I honestly think TL takes this 5-2 or 5-3. If their opening player wins, I think 5-2, otherwise 5-3. I don't think it's unrealistic at all.
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Though it was a nine game series, none of the games were particularly great.
exactly this... the teamleague and all these allkills / winning streaks are highly devalued if the games are decided by stupid mistakes -.- especially the win over MMA means nothing when MMA plays like a random code B terran, though it is nice for the record / statistics toi have.
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I like how this time TL tasted how hard it is to win in GSTL and this time is giving themselves a fair prediction :D
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"Now, if he would only start doing the same for Evil Geniuses..." completely gratuitous
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Come on TL, this one is yours!
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I think Jinro will be sent out first. I think he performs better the less pressure that is on him, and if he can start Liquid off with a win, he has redeemed himself in so many ways.
Yes, I think Jinro should start first. However, I think that Zenio will be Liquid's first player again, as he was able to perform his job in their first matchup before he was sniped...
That being said, TASSADAR HWAITING!!!!
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once again i dont think NSH can beat liquid if zenio plays well, but a good preformance from seal may take liquid out
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It started! Go go Teamliquid! You can take this one!
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NsHs fighting! Gogo Seal!
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On May 31 2012 17:27 OPL3SA2 wrote: I think Jinro will be sent out first. I think he performs better the less pressure that is on him, and if he can start Liquid off with a win, he has redeemed himself in so many ways.
Yes, I think Jinro should start first. However, I think that Zenio will be Liquid's first player again, as he was able to perform his job in their first matchup before he was sniped...
That being said, TASSADAR HWAITING!!!!
Tassadar will get an all-kill here. You heard it here first!
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got my 허브컵 (chicken, ddeok, potato cup) in front of me and I am ready for a teamliquid win.
If I already sin with eating a whole box of the one above then make it worth teamliquid !!
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Tassadar all kill. Calling it now.
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For the record, I said TASSADAR HWAITING prior to him being chosen as NSHOSEO's first player
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Many many comments can be made about TL's substandard play today but it would be unfair to not mention that Tassadar is playing super well.
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OH man this next match is going to be nail biting. Jinro and Tassadar are two of my favorite players (even though Jinro snubbed me at MLG providence when I tried to shake his hand)
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just embarrassing
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Ok if Tassadar wins it will complete the all kill. However, if Hero wins, Hero will reverse all-kill.
This is my prediction
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to be honest, i would have had hero fighting on the second position. TLO is weakest against P.
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HERROPOOOO HEROOOO THAT WAS THE SICKEST COOLEST GAMBLE IVE SEEN IN A YEAR HEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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NOT GONNA HAPPENN TASSADAR
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Shame all this gonna end now Ladies and gentlemen jjakji on his best MU >.>
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On May 31 2012 01:43 zanga wrote:5-2 in NSH's favour >_> But, let me dream for a moment: + Show Spoiler +Jinro All-Kills NSH....... (*-*)! Nice!
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On May 31 2012 20:47 Xarles wrote:Nice!
:D! How much money did I win?!
...What - only the honour of being correct?
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On May 31 2012 20:51 zanga wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 20:47 Xarles wrote:On May 31 2012 01:43 zanga wrote:5-2 in NSH's favour >_> But, let me dream for a moment: + Show Spoiler +Jinro All-Kills NSH....... (*-*)! Nice! :D! How much money did I win?! ...What - only the honour of being correct? Sorry!
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It was a hard series to watch + Show Spoiler +because i know that Liquid is capable of competing at this level, and i'm sure the team feels a sense of disappointment because they know they are capable too HerO's game on atlantis space bear was a great morale boost though. I'm still looking forward to cheering Liquid on in the next GSTL if Liquid chooses to participate again
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On June 01 2012 01:03 fenrysk wrote:It was a hard series to watch + Show Spoiler +because i know that Liquid is capable of competing at this level, and i'm sure the team feels a sense of disappointment because they know they are capable too HerO's game on atlantis space bear was a great morale boost though. I'm still looking forward to cheering Liquid on in the next GSTL if Liquid chooses to participate again I was rooting for Tassdar. Such a sick little underrated nerd baller.
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Quick question. Why no Ret or Sheth in Korea?
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Not too happy to here TL got all-killed. Hopefully they can pick the pace up and perform better.
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Nice writeup! I didnt get a chance to catch any of the matches and this did a great job of catching me up.
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