[GSTL] Round Two - Fnatic vs Prime/NSH vs Startale - Page 5
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PBCL
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
[QUOTE]On June 16 2012 09:03 JJH777 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 16 2012 08:36 Birdfood wrote: [QUOTE]On June 16 2012 08:04 JJH777 wrote: MarineKing the number 1 Terran? I don't think he was the Terran that just won GSL.... Pretty sure he's the one who hasn't even passed ro16 in like a year.[/QUOTE] LOL MKP won 2 mlg's in a row, and has been dominating everyone. He was almost the consensus #1 player in the world until the zerg buff happened... [/QUOTE] Winning a GSL is more impressive than winning 10 MLGs.[/quote] If this were true, then Jjakji is considered a better player than MKP? [QUOTE] When JJakji won the GSL, yes we he was considered a better player... by far | ||
Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Cause i love you On June 17 2012 01:35 MasterKang wrote: On June 16 2012 10:31 NrGmonk wrote: If this were true, then Jjakji is considered a better player than MKP? When JJakji won the GSL, yes we he was considered a better player... by far | ||
MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
[QUOTE]On June 16 2012 10:31 NrGmonk wrote: [QUOTE]On June 16 2012 09:03 JJH777 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 16 2012 08:36 Birdfood wrote: [QUOTE]On June 16 2012 08:04 JJH777 wrote: MarineKing the number 1 Terran? I don't think he was the Terran that just won GSL.... Pretty sure he's the one who hasn't even passed ro16 in like a year.[/QUOTE] LOL MKP won 2 mlg's in a row, and has been dominating everyone. He was almost the consensus #1 player in the world until the zerg buff happened... [/QUOTE] Winning a GSL is more impressive than winning 10 MLGs.[/quote] If this were true, then Jjakji is considered a better player than MKP? [QUOTE] When JJakji won the GSL, yes we he was considered a better player... by far [/QUOTE] Maybe GSL isn't the best at showcasing who the best players in the world are then lol... | ||
Apollo_Shards
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On June 16 2012 08:07 Apollo_Shards wrote: Perhaps another prediction wrong? We'll see. Yep. Lets see if the next one is wrong too. | ||
Mask DeMasque
United States415 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7434 Posts
*I apologize for absentmindedly stating MarineKingPrime was the #1 Terran player in the world in a previous version of this article. Mvp is the #1 player in the world, across all races. hahahahahah! Wax gave in :D | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
"Hey, I'm going to make shit loads of stuff and throw it at my opponent and try to make the trade better by microing a bit. Hopefully he'll fuck up in one of the engagements and I can snowball to a win." It's good if the other player is a good bit worse than him, but that shit don't fly with, say, DRG. Anywho, Startale (in addition to being my favorite team) has more Protoss, so I say they'll win 5-3. | ||
neoghaleon55
United States7434 Posts
On June 17 2012 07:09 ticklishmusic wrote: I'd say MKP might have the best micro/ macro, but his decision making/ tactics are pretty terribad. "Hey, I'm going to make shit loads of stuff and throw it at my opponent and try to make the trade better by microing a bit. Hopefully he'll fuck up in one of the engagements and I can snowball to a win." It's good if the other player is a good bit worse than him, but that shit don't fly with, say, DRG. Anywho, Startale (in addition to being my favorite team) has more Protoss, so I say they'll win 5-3. That's the same mentality that I hate from players like Gumiho and sC. If you actually watch Gumiho's TvZ, it's ridiculously sloppy. Half the time he forgets where he dropped his marines, and they afk idly or attack move into banelings without his notice. sC's style is similar to the Halby build where you just mass reactored marines in small clumps and cross your fingers that you will eventually overwhelm the zerg at some point. To me these styles are not strategic, they're boring and kind of brainless. The best TvZ still comes from MMA who has some insane multitasking abilities, he pays attention to his drops and hits key buildings and expansions where the zerg cannot easily defend. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 17 2012 07:18 neoghaleon55 wrote: That's the same mentality that I hate from players like Gumiho and sC. If you actually watch Gumiho's TvZ, it's ridiculously sloppy. Half the time he forgets where he dropped his marines, and they afk idly or attack move into banelings without his notice. sC's style is similar to the Halby build where you just mass reactored marines in small clumps and cross your fingers that you will eventually overwhelm the zerg at some point. To me these styles are not strategic, they're boring and kind of brainless. The best TvZ still comes from MMA who has some insane multitasking abilities, he pays attention to his drops and hits key buildings and expansions where the zerg cannot easily defend. I enjoyed MKP's monster macro/micro thing for about one tournament (MLG Spring Arena 1 I think) when it seemed that he would just overwhelm the other side (DRG mostly) with endless armies and amazing micro. It looked so cool. But then you realized, hey, this guy is just making the best of a bad engagement a lot of the time. Now if only MMA could figure out how to beat Protoss... | ||
neoghaleon55
United States7434 Posts
On June 17 2012 08:35 ticklishmusic wrote: I enjoyed MKP's monster macro/micro thing for about one tournament (MLG Spring Arena 1 I think) when it seemed that he would just overwhelm the other side (DRG mostly) with endless armies and amazing micro. It looked so cool. But then you realized, hey, this guy is just making the best of a bad engagement a lot of the time. Now if only MMA could figure out how to beat Protoss... Game of the night was definitely Alive vs B4. Alive's TvZ is so impressive, that marine spitting was so insane that it is on par if not better than MKP's. I haven't been giving alive much credit so far, but he is slowly earning a place in my heart. <3 | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Maybe GSL isn't the best at showcasing who the best players in the world are then lol... Not sure how long you've been following sc2 but when Jjakji won the gsl he was by FAR the better player, MMA and Mvp were the king of Terrans and MKP had no tournament wins and was failing to advance from the ro32/ro16 every season in the GSL. | ||
Cipher32
United States52 Posts
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:33 Cipher32 wrote: Why aren't Sase and Naniwa there for startale? Dreamhack | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 17 2012 08:39 neoghaleon55 wrote: Game of the night was definitely Alive vs B4. Alive's TvZ is so impressive, that marine spitting was so insane that it is on par if not better than MKP's. I haven't been giving alive much credit so far, but he is slowly earning a place in my heart. <3 Its because he's MVP without 4 GSL championships, aka a faceless Korean macro terran. | ||
Zerguru
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GGOPphatpak
United States87 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
I was QQing about ZvT about halfway thru, but aLive pulled it out :-P | ||
usethis2
2164 Posts
On June 17 2012 08:43 Dodgin wrote: Not sure how long you've been following sc2 but when Jjakji won the gsl he was by FAR the better player, MMA and Mvp were the king of Terrans and MKP had no tournament wins and was failing to advance from the ro32/ro16 every season in the GSL. Put it this way. In a setting where your raw skills and physical/mental stamina matter more than mind game or build orders, I see MKP excel. The opposite is true for MVP. I don't see MVP/Nestea winning MLG unless they are directly seeded into quarterfinals or so, but I definitely see them beating MKP/DRG in GSL. | ||
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