Power Rank 11/01/2009 - Page 9
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On November 02 2009 13:40 Plexa wrote:
Well, I think this is fairly appropriate given the current discussion! This is taken from when etter announced PR as a new feature on TL.
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On November 22 2006 01:18 DJEtterStyle wrote:
As you may have noticed (but probably not), the gracious people at Team Liquid have made me a part of their extended family. If it helps, think of me as the drunken uncle that everyone hates but that they have no choice but to invite to family reunions.
Regardless of my status amongst my now-peers, I have been put in charge of the new Power Ranking feature, visible, if you have not yet noticed, in the upper-right portion of the website. Click on the link to see the detailed list.
Every month, I will create a list—<i>my</i> list—of the top ten Brood War players in the world. No foreigner, just in case you felt the urge to ask, will ever grace that list. No, not even if he managed to beat Midas in a Bo1 during WCG.
To clarify: this is not a rehash of the KeSPA rankings. This is not a lifetime achievement award. This list consists entirely of my picks of who is hot <i>right now</i>. Any player who loses a big game to an amateur opponent or attempts some particularly retarded cheese can look forward to dropping off the list as quickly as he arrived. I consider much more than statistics when formulating this list, and although the placement might seem, on <i>occasion</i>, biased or even completely random, I assure you that I have my own, incredibly valid reasons for the decisions I make. You are, of course, welcome to try and change my mind, but before you try and do that, let me provide you with a crucial piece of information: I am smarter than you—much.
In subsequent months, I will post a <i>brief</i> essay announcing the presence of the new list and defending some of my potentially controversial choices, but as this post is already much longer than I would like, I will spare all of you any further reading.
So enjoy the list, and feel free to place your inane comments in the provided, well, <i>comments area</i>. I assure you that I will consider each one briefly before dismissing it on any number of <i>purely objective</i> grounds.
I can't believe I forgot to mention this before, but please be sure to thank Saro for adding this new feature. Without him, the website would be, from a technical standpoint, stagnant. His work makes possible all of these fun little things we have, and he, I believe, goes underappreciated far too often.
While we're quoting the originator of the power rank, I think I would be remiss in not mentioning this as my primary justification for feeling completely free to argue with any PR as much as I want. :D
Also, and this is the main reason, the Power Rank is meant for entertainment -- that is its primary purpose. Tell me, are you not entertained? Controversy in matters like this make for the very best entertainment. And you cannot really prove the author "wrong", so as long as there are decent reasons for every choice and the outcome means more entertainment for all of us readers, I'd say this is the best Power Rank we've had in the last four or five months.
On November 02 2009 23:57 endy wrote:
I think Pusan deserved to be in the PR more than Shine he was so amazing recently, he even defeated Best who is the best PvP player except Stork and Bisu. I also feel that Calm is a lot more consistent that JD these days. Otherwise, I totally agree
Agreed, other then Best's pvp isn't godmode anymore. (I'd rate Backho, Kal, Stats, Violet and Pusan over him ATLEAST)
On November 02 2009 11:07 Endurethetoothache wrote:
I don't know if the power rankings are like the Kespa ratings but I really don't think past performance should go into how the players are doing right now. I want to know who is doing the best in THIS month, not who is the best of all time at the moment. (Maybe that's where I am wrong though).
I don't know if the power rankings are like the NFL standings, but I really don't think past performance should go into how the teams are doing right now. I want to know who is doing the best in THIS week, not who is the best of all time at the moment. (Maybe that's where I am wrong though).
week 6, 2008: Browns thumped the Giants so they obviously had one of the best weeks in the NFL and should have been top 5 in ESPN's power rankings... right?
This is a monthly ranking, but not a ranking of months.
On November 02 2009 01:25 fanatacist wrote:
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On November 02 2009 01:21 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Yeah. About JD, I dont think I would have put him that high. On the other hand he has never played his best at the start of seasons. Guess this month really shows how good you are riptide. If Jd wins much your a genious, if not, your a fool. High risk, high gain.
Uh the PR isn't a prediction it's an assessment of the current situation. There is no risk or gain because he is just a guy making a ranking of who HE THINKS are the top 10 players on the scene.
Yes, and he THINKS that JD is number two right now, but if JD goes and throws every game away JD sure cannot have been number two in the world. So if JD wins everthing he was right about JD still being number 2 despite some lackluster performances in Oktober.
First of all, I think that the PR was meant to be a list of the best performing players over the last month, not over the last 2 or 3 months and not in the next 2 or 3 months. So, if I am right, it means that JD being placed at second place is completely wrong (I will not argue with the other positions, since this one is the most out of place according to the below criteria).
Regardless of which approach you will chose: results , number of matches, game consistency, quality of the played games, you can't get JD on 2nd place for the month of October.
Maybe he will be on 2nd place or even on the 1st place in November, but October was a bad month for JD when you compare his achievements to other players that are ranked bellow him.
I can accept that this was a mistake that the author made for and unknown reason, but with PRs like this particular one, the value and relevance of the PR will decrease.
There was a time when we used to report the value and "power" of a player to the PR instead of the KESPA ranking, I think that this will not be valid anymore with PRs like this.
So, please take in consideration the facts when writing the future PRs and not some speculations or the glorious past of some of the players.
Anyway, I would like to thank you for the effort of maintaining the PR (even if sometimes creates such a big debate).
Writing the Power Rank is as much about choosing which factors to weigh as it is about actually weighing them. It's about deciding what's important this month, taking into account not only results but also current trends and hot issues, which can be very different from month to month. The Power Rank would be much less interesting if it followed a fixed formula.
It's supposed to be a bit enigmatic, and it's more important that it provides insight and generates discussion (possibly by being provocative) than that it represents the absolute truth (for which one can always look to statistics).
On November 03 2009 10:11 OpticalShot wrote:
I'd personally switch Calm and JD for Oct. PR because Calm won a whole lot of games for his team while JD dropped a few key ones. >_< HOW CAN YOU LOSE ZVZ TO 815 (idc if it's a BO loss or whatever, a loss is a loss)
You know, I don't get this. 815 has ALWAYS been really good at ZvZ. He was 1-1 with Jaedong going into that match and has over a 60% ZvZ record. I know Jaedong is really good, but I'd postulate that 815's ZvZ is as good, or atleast more consistent than Hyuk's and Zero's.