You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING.
Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver.
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING. Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver. | ||
Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On January 26 2010 03:51 vnlegend wrote: JD is #1. You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING. Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver. lol, I like what u say but...than nada should be first right? | ||
Severedevil
United States4795 Posts
On January 26 2010 04:42 Jaeden wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2010 03:51 vnlegend wrote: JD is #1. You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING. Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver. lol, I like what u say but...than nada should be first right? Uh, no. Nada's been beaten hard since his last successful gold. | ||
Bwenjarin Raffrack
United States322 Posts
On January 26 2010 03:51 vnlegend wrote: JD is #1. You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING. Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver. You make a good argument, but the fact of the matter is that Crazy-Hydra has won every game of his this month. You have to beat the king to become the king, and Crazy-Hydra proved that Jaedong was only a pretender to the throne. | ||
nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
On January 24 2010 19:10 Severedevil wrote: A head-to-head Bo5 is the gold standard of comparative skill. | ||
Loffeman
Sweden105 Posts
On January 24 2010 23:07 johanes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2010 22:51 SuperArc wrote: On January 24 2010 22:30 StylishVODs wrote: Jaedong should be nr2. Its really hard taking both titles. Flash almost did it, and had it not been for him playing 1000 games vs zergs recently and jaedongs ability to find weaknesses to his play he might have done it. Game 1 and 4 wasn't really showing any skill from either player and that sadens me abit. One thing about flash though it didn't seem as he had prepared anything risky/special in the series except for the bunkerrush in game 4 which he had done twice on that map already the last two games. Flash didn't play his normal abusive play and he was punnished for that since jaedong took every advantage he could by doing risky things such as no dronescout and 3hatch before pool etc. I felt almost as flash didn't prepare for this finals and thats really wierd, coz im sure he did. A predicting commentator said: Flash can throw anything at jaedong and he must try to beat it. But flash didn't throw anything at jaedong. It was jaedong who did these builds where flash had to adapt. With that said, 1 gold + 1 silver when jaedong vs flash is 3-3 in recent games + the fact that flash has broken records left and right and peaked over 2400 elo is surely enough to give flash the first spot. but PR has been hard on flash before, i hope this time its not coz he deseves it. Flash is not the only one whos been breaking records left and right. Thats why I said the fairest solution would be to award #1 to both players. They showed us this month that both of them are completely on another level than all others. Not even Stork or Bisu are close to them skill-wise. I also kinda feel that Taek Bang Lee Ssang will soon change into Lee Ssang. Stork and Bisu's peaks are over, Jaedong's might be ending soon too and with SC2 close I pity Flash since he will most likely not have his chance to prove that he could have been the GOTA because he had to face Jaedong during his peak. I doubt there is anyone who would argue that flash is GOAT skillwise... Hope this is a joke? People seem to think u can be GOAT for being really dominating 1 or 2 seasons? Well Flash isn't the only who has done that =p | ||
Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
Stork has beaten stats, fantasy and fucking perfectman (the guy is perfect). how can you compete with that? | ||
johanes
Czech Republic2226 Posts
On January 26 2010 06:06 Loffeman wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2010 23:07 johanes wrote: On January 24 2010 22:51 SuperArc wrote: On January 24 2010 22:30 StylishVODs wrote: Jaedong should be nr2. Its really hard taking both titles. Flash almost did it, and had it not been for him playing 1000 games vs zergs recently and jaedongs ability to find weaknesses to his play he might have done it. Game 1 and 4 wasn't really showing any skill from either player and that sadens me abit. One thing about flash though it didn't seem as he had prepared anything risky/special in the series except for the bunkerrush in game 4 which he had done twice on that map already the last two games. Flash didn't play his normal abusive play and he was punnished for that since jaedong took every advantage he could by doing risky things such as no dronescout and 3hatch before pool etc. I felt almost as flash didn't prepare for this finals and thats really wierd, coz im sure he did. A predicting commentator said: Flash can throw anything at jaedong and he must try to beat it. But flash didn't throw anything at jaedong. It was jaedong who did these builds where flash had to adapt. With that said, 1 gold + 1 silver when jaedong vs flash is 3-3 in recent games + the fact that flash has broken records left and right and peaked over 2400 elo is surely enough to give flash the first spot. but PR has been hard on flash before, i hope this time its not coz he deseves it. Flash is not the only one whos been breaking records left and right. Thats why I said the fairest solution would be to award #1 to both players. They showed us this month that both of them are completely on another level than all others. Not even Stork or Bisu are close to them skill-wise. I also kinda feel that Taek Bang Lee Ssang will soon change into Lee Ssang. Stork and Bisu's peaks are over, Jaedong's might be ending soon too and with SC2 close I pity Flash since he will most likely not have his chance to prove that he could have been the GOTA because he had to face Jaedong during his peak. I doubt there is anyone who would argue that flash is GOAT skillwise... Hope this is a joke? People seem to think u can be GOAT for being really dominating 1 or 2 seasons? Well Flash isn't the only who has done that =p i didnt write anything about domination, just about raw skill, and i do think flash is most skilled progamer ever. Ofcourse, some players can top him in certain areas, like jaedong in mental strenght, but his micro and macro combined are best ever | ||
ppgButtercup
United States159 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On January 26 2010 00:53 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote: Show nested quote + On January 25 2010 20:57 adelarge wrote: And it that case, for powerranking needs, Flash should be nr. 1 because he DID accomplish more than JD this month. Pfft, what do you seriously think Flash accomplished this month? Hit 2400 Elo multiple times with a 70% lifetime win rate, won his 22nd consecutive TvT for the longest streak ever, passed iloveoov's monstrous TvZ peak Elo rating, won an OSL gold and a MSL silver while winning ace matches for his team in proleague? Lol, whatever. Jaedong dominated him in the most indisputable, uncontroversial way I've ever seen in the best starleague finals of recent memory. In fact, if Jaedong hadn't made any mistakes at all, he'd have won 3-0. Seriously, why are you Flash fanboys so blind to the fact that those MSL finals games told us all we ever needed to know? Recognize the sarcasm. End of thread. People didn't want to acknowledge Flash as the clearly better player with his 2-0.. I don't think you should really acknowledge Jaedong as the better player with his 3-1 that was marred with a bunch of fucked up circumstances. Jaedong and Flash are nothing more than 50:50 at the moment and if you take this month into account... Flash did better STILL. The end. | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On January 26 2010 09:22 stormguy85 wrote: Am I the only one that feels like this is a stale-mate until the WL match tonight? Great point. Let's see what happens tonight. Stork looked good last night; I was worried about him after some of these recent losses but he is playing well, especially considering the maps. He obviously has to drop in power rank, though, because Flash and Jaedong are gonna be in the top two spots. Not sure whether or not someone else should pass Stork... | ||
Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On January 25 2010 20:57 adelarge wrote: Wow...just wow. I can't believe some people are able to draw conclussion that JD > Flash based solely on the fucked up 3:1 MSL Final (fucked up becase of game 4, I actually believe JD was going to win game 3 anyway). If something, it along with the 0:2 OSL game showed us how incredibely close these two are and how stupid is calling one of them better than the other right now. And it that case, for powerranking needs, Flash should be nr. 1 because he DID accomplish more than JD this month. Next month, with lots of games played in WL, it can be a totally different story. qft. Flash took out Jaedong in OSL, Jaedong took out Flash in MSL. | ||
revy
United States1524 Posts
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ppgButtercup
United States159 Posts
It's almost a shame we have two overly-amazing players otherwise more history records would be getting broken. | ||
Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
On January 26 2010 09:22 stormguy85 wrote: Am I the only one that feels like this is a stale-mate until the WL match tonight? This. Flash and Jaedong are so neck-and-neck that the WL match between KT and Oz could end up deciding who gets #1 and who gets #2 | ||
stormtemplar
United States2140 Posts
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 26 2010 13:25 stormguy85 wrote: The funny thing to think about is this: if it wasn't for Flash, Jaedong would have won both the MSL and the OSL. And on the flip side: if it wasn't for Jaedong, Flash would have won both the MSL and the OSL. It's almost a shame we have two overly-amazing players otherwise more history records would be getting broken. Ya, they're both really far ahead of all competition. So I'm having a great time (being a fan of both). | ||
fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
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L0thar
987 Posts
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