On June 14 2011 04:05 Lightwip wrote: I'd give Jaedong a #10 spot if it were to be made right now. I think he deserves that little benefit of the doubt for years of good play. Savior was given the same in his last month of PR. I think Jaedong deserves a final chance.
He already got the benefit of the doubt last month. If the new PR were to be written today he would not place anywhere on it. Maybe in a shoutout as more of a "get better" (not even a CBNC). Fortunately for him, he's still got a couple weeks to snap out of this slump and show he's worthy of being on the June PR. His mediocre performance since his win over Reality in the MSL caused him to drop from #2 ELO to #9 (and dip under 2200 pts for the first time in ages).
The same goes for Stork tbh, who's been having a bad couple months now. Stork dropped on the ELO chart from ~#5-6 to #15, being surpassed by protoss players like Horang2, Movie and Snow, and only 3 ELO points above BeSt and Stats.
As of right now neither one is fit for a spot, but one can only hope that these slumps are only temporary.
On June 14 2011 16:13 Vasoline73 wrote: Sigh at people thinking JD should be off the rank... no way.
He hasn't really done anything that would keep him on the rank though. That's the main problem. Sure there's still time to go, but as of now, no reason to keep him on. Maybe i'll change my mind by the end of this month.
On June 14 2011 16:13 Vasoline73 wrote: Sigh at people thinking JD should be off the rank... no way.
What has he done to inspire confidence. He struggled against Reality, who really could have won the third game had he not acted so aggressively, he lost a ZvZ Bo5 against Zero who has always had sketchy ZvZ, lost against a rookie Wemade zerg, lost his first ever game against Leta, and now lost against the ggaemo. His ZvT is, I'm guessing, still fantastic but his ZvP hasn't adjusted to the times (and he's just another zerg for Bisu) and recently he just keeps losing ZvZs.
How much grace can you give someone? He can improve a lot this month but if he keeps this up, he's not going to be able to prove that this is just a small unlucky loss streak in his career. I think the real test is how he performs against KT because let's be honest even if he isn't playing at 100%, no one but Flash should even give him remotely a hard time because they are all terrible against zerg (Luxury, 815 who could be occasionally good, and Forgg don't play anymore so the next best vZ player is Stats...).
On June 14 2011 16:13 Vasoline73 wrote: Sigh at people thinking JD should be off the rank... no way.
Man, Flash dropped off the rank for going 6-2 one month, all in TvZ, and the reason was his TvZ was too weak. This is hardly the most ridiculous claim.
might want to keep an eye on kal, he's sucked for a while but his game vs zero yesterday was fucking beast mode, and he supposedly played well vs great in the ace match vs khan. if he can pick up another couple of good wins in proleague he might be worth a cbnc/shoutout
At this point it looks likely that Hydra will overtake Jaedong in the KeSPA rank as well, which would be the first time that Jaedong is not #1 Zerg by KeSPA rank since he took the spot from SaviOr in January 2008. Furthermore, no Zerg that has lost the #1 Zerg KeSPA spot has ever managed to regain it.
And I still haven't heard anyone say who should be ahead of him outside of Flash Bisu Hydra. Do you want 4-loss-streak zero in the top 5, or 5-loss-streak JD (the only other people with good recent individual league records)?
"4 loss streak" is a bit unfair when 3 losses are from Flash.