I really liked SISKH's thread on who is the most stable pro?
I modified it a bit and changed it to the most consistent of the top 10 Terrans in the KeSPA as of now. There are some new Terrans up there like Sea, HwaSIn, and Light. But the way I figure is if they get some votes, that's just a future look on how TL hopes they perform.
Remember, consistent doesn't mean best. This means if their performance were on a line graph, the line's first derivative would stay close to 0 or a little positive. Hope to see some good responses.
voted for oov cuz i never heard of him having a loss streak or whatever-unlike nada,xellos,etc.who kinda have their moments of glory but also rainy days.
On January 10 2007 15:32 Dendra wrote: voted for oov cuz i never heard of him having a loss streak or whatever-unlike nada,xellos,etc.who kinda have their moments of glory but also rainy days.
The last 6 months for oov were kinda shitty, beside his wcg victory.
Though call between GF and midas. GF is always in OSL, but I'd go with midas as he consistently goes far and played a bigger role in 2006 than GF in MSL/Sky proleague. And let's not forget he represented Korea twice at the wcg in the past 3 editions. Too bad he was forced to drop the msl -_-
On January 10 2007 14:27 jkillashark wrote: Remember, consistent doesn't mean best. This means if their performance were on a line graph, the line's first derivative would stay close to 0 or a little positive. Hope to see some good responses.
dude if you mean that literally i'm a shoo-in for most consistent terran player alive. my terran is just as good today as it was when i was a fetus
GF doesn't seem very stable on a game to game basis. he wins at an above average rate, but oftentimes lose spectacularly and unexpectedly. I would not call that consistency in performance but maybe stability in variance or something. Midas I dont think has been the victim of unexpected rapes all that often.
Currently i voted Goodfriend for most consistent. This has been in every sl since he got into iops around 2004. The next is Midas who just constactly improves and gets into most sl. Iris is consistent too he always gets into the sl and does good in group stages. Xellos was really consistent too. Of the new ones Light and Sea are consistent. Hwasin right now is on a roll but its his first i think sl and hes a newcomer.
Canata is not consistent at all. Boxer and Nada are examples of inconsistency, imo with ups and downs. Oov less so but still slumps. In terms of tournament results GF is really the only choice, but I dont like him. ^^
Even though I don't like Midas, always looks like such a crybaby when he loses :D maybe oov should be up there, but he got much higher expectations than the rest so it's easier to bash him
Xellos had a big slump after winning WCG in 2005 iirc Oov also had his slump, as well as Nada, both going back to osl prelim... They are probably the best players in terms of achievements on that list, but big achievements are hard to repeat (not everyone can be Federer i guess :p)
GF is in the osl for the longest time (since gillette) and, appart from those 3, is the most successful of all of them (being an osl finalist once, semi finalist at least twice) He gets out of group stage most of the time, he's not an impressive player, but he's efficient and his win/loss ratio is probably the more stable of all thoses players.
Midas would be a close second, as i see him more as a player who really got in strong shape more recently, when he was able to get a better tvt (GF used to beat him badly, now he has improved a lot).
Iris is also consistent, as Etter said, it's a shame he gets so little vote. He got to several ro8 in osl. His tvt and tvp are really nice, his tvz is lacking though. But he's been around at top level for longer than Hwasin, Sea or Light, or even Casy who wasn't able to qualify for the osl for a very long time.
I know it's really tempting to just vote for your favorite Terran. GoodFrienD is by far not my favorite Terran but I really do admire his consistency every season.
If you vote for NaDa or iloveoov, please at least put up an explanation why. iloveoov is currently coming over a 6 month slump and NaDa just broke a slump and may possibly go back into one.
I don't know how well GF has been doing in MSL. He lost in survivor last time, still is in survivor for now but the times before I don't remember if he qualified regularly or not.
On January 12 2007 12:52 MaGic~PhiL wrote: oov and NaDa
midas : no he may be the most balanced gamer in all 3 mu's but he is never the most consistent.. OOV OR NADA.. no one else imho
-_-;; Some people clearly haven't been in the loop the past year. I think you mean oov and NaDa are the most balanced in all 3 matchups. Midas had a rather poor TvZ dating back to last year but he's improved it drastically with CONSISTENT improvement.
I'm really shocked at how people totally ignore the question and vote for their favorite Terrans. I'm glad Midas is at least winning. I know that he is a very consistent Terran, as is GF who was leading but got ousted by all the fanboys.
Being around for 5 years and slumping isnt really unconsitent is it ? Compare it to the new terrans. I guess its much harder to even get into a slump if you are playing at the highest level for only 3 or 2 or even maybe only 1 year.
All in all NaDa and Oov are imho the most consitent terrans. After all its a question about when or how long u want to look at it. If you say basicaly back when progaming started .. who until now is the most consistent.. i think we all agree oov / nada / boxer ( maybe. but his tvp wasnt that good ) come to mind.
Right now Midas might be the most consistent, but ONLY right now. And GoodFriend rofl ? After isnt winning 3 OSL and 3 MSL's just the perfect sign for being consistent ?
this poll changed hella. i looked at couple days ago and it was gf first midas 2nd. as much as i like nada, he isnt very consistent. i think he is a little to unpredicatable, like beating anytime in the finals one day then loosing to mingu.
also i think the poll should be titled top 10 active terrans cause boxer isn't on here. hes not very consistent but he is still a top 10 terran all time.
On January 11 2007 08:08 ~chut~ wrote: Xellos had a big slump after winning WCG in 2005 iirc Oov also had his slump, as well as Nada, both going back to osl prelim... They are probably the best players in terms of achievements on that list, but big achievements are hard to repeat (not everyone can be Federer i guess :p)
GF is in the osl for the longest time (since gillette) and, appart from those 3, is the most successful of all of them (being an osl finalist once, semi finalist at least twice) He gets out of group stage most of the time, he's not an impressive player, but he's efficient and his win/loss ratio is probably the more stable of all thoses players.
Midas would be a close second, as i see him more as a player who really got in strong shape more recently, when he was able to get a better tvt (GF used to beat him badly, now he has improved a lot).
Iris is also consistent, as Etter said, it's a shame he gets so little vote. He got to several ro8 in osl. His tvt and tvp are really nice, his tvz is lacking though. But he's been around at top level for longer than Hwasin, Sea or Light, or even Casy who wasn't able to qualify for the osl for a very long time.
"gf's win/loss ratio is best blah blah"
If I am not mistaken, Nada has the best win/loss ratio ever... over any bw progamer...
oh god I hate seeing results like this for a good poll.
There will be so many idiots who look at the poll, and think "Nada ftw!" or "Oov ftw!" without even fully understanding the meaning of the poll, and not even bother to leave a comment to jusitify their stupidity.
Now I'm not saying all votes for NaDa or Oov are stupid. Atleast MaGic-PhiL has a valid argument to defend his choices. Most people may not agree, but atleast he has a REASON, compared to most who just think this is the same poll as "who's the best".
Enough of my rambling. My vote goes to Midas. He has been steadily rising from the dust, never going too fast, or too slow. It's amazing to see such steady progress.
I took it from the top 10 Terrans in the January KeSPA. Sorry I forgot to mention that. This poll has really turned out awfully wrong of what I had in mind. I had either GoodFrienD or Midas as runaway winners but the fanboys clearly don't think.