sAviOr can rape all in any match up and has shown solid skill in all 3, slightly less in ZvZ but whatever, Bisu on the toher hand his PvZ is aboslutely AMAZING there is no denying that, his PvT has never shown anything too amazing as everyone has said, and his PvP, well all we have is the rA games to my knowledge but i think he's about the same as his PvT in that. sAviOr is overall more stable of a player i tihnk, it just so happens bisu's best match up is the best of the best and savior can't take him down, i can't wait until the face again though, i am and alwyas will bea savior fan.
On June 07 2007 12:07 Detonate wrote: firebathero is always that dark horse that no1 notices. I remember last OSL Mani predicted firebathero to win but he fell short as usual. I wonder when he will finally come through
as long as savior and bisu are aroudn the answer to that question will have to be never
On June 07 2007 12:07 Detonate wrote: firebathero is always that dark horse that no1 notices. I remember last OSL Mani predicted firebathero to win but he fell short as usual. I wonder when he will finally come through
Something about FBH... its so true he's always the dark horse! always in the background of things, even when he wins (like now vs Oov) somehow its like 'oh right' and people are fast to forget, myself included. He's just that kind of guy, he can get to semi-finals, lose 2-3 to sAviOr or whoever, and a season later ask people who were the Ro8 players of that Starleague, they'll give you 7 names and won't remember FBH :-) He is strong, plays good games, fun to watch, I'm really starting to like him! As it is right now, he deserves a PR slot. But so much will happen until next month, so we'll see.
On a sidenote, I like how Bisu is sharing this trait with Savior in that he keeps on humiliating opponents with his scout usage. Very reminiscent of the Savior-Nada infest CC to me.
Is it because they're such good players that they get away with it or actually because they use it to psychological advantage that they're such good players ?
LOL that was so classic, NaDa was like trying to micro marines then he see's an infested CC and says "GG" god that was the most ultimate thing ever. I would have to say that i don't really beleive there to be a psychological edge in this game, atleast on my level, but on a progamers level there might be, if so it only cost sAviOr 100/100 to embarass nada infront of a few thousand people and get that "Psychological" edge over him. Also it was funny as hell to watch him bury nada into the ground. I never saw Bisu use scouts but damn that's gosu :D
bisu's scouts are nothing like saviors cc infest bisu is using these scouts in serious situations, savior just built a queen because he was so far ahead and was in a completely unloseable situation that he thought 'what the hell, lets make a queen and infest nada's cc'
On June 08 2007 21:42 Jathin wrote: Uh? Bisu built scouts because he was so far ahead. He almost blew it because he devoted so many resources to scouts that Hwasin's last push may have broken through -- but he came through with a storm.
Don't try to argue that scouts was somehow a strategic decision on Bisu's part. They're fucking expensive and there are other more efficient alternatives. The point at which Bisu starts making scouts was when he had a huge economy lead (but not unit lead).
100% correct
That's what made it so hilarious. Bisu is such a pimp.
--to that one guy saying NaDa intentionally dropped out of OSL and MSL to focus on proleague, that's 100% absolutely ridiculous. he's 9-7 in proleague and the maps overlap. if you look at the way he's lost, it's pretty clear he's simply playing bad overall, even in proleague too. carnac's reaction to you was almost justified because what you said was probably the most fanboyish thing in this thread.
--about bisu and the scouts, there's a backstory about bisu calling hwasin his "insurance" in the OSL, pretty hilarious. so both players want to win really bad, bisu does a dt drop which hwasin anticipated and did the perfect counterbuild, but bisu was so good that hwasin still manages to not only lose but lose to scouts. nobody seems to realize how behind bisu was in the beginning but caught up with superior multitask, timing, macro, just everything. hwasin got embarrassed pretty badly.
On June 07 2007 16:22 boghat wrote: I'd be more confident with Savior vs Anyplayer than Bisu vs Anyplayer though...
Word.
Bisu's win% is not that great. ~~
his wins are very solid and convincing.
his losses are very disappointingly ugly.
One could say the same of sAviOr, I suppose - but sAviOr still wins more.
actually... they are pretty similar in win % so far this season. savior has a few more wins in proleague, bisu a few more in MSL and OSL
all time, both are between 60-65% win
that said, if both play straight up (no cheese) ie 3 hatch savior and bisu not doing some dt drop, it's pretty fucking close right now which one i would take if my life depended on it vs Anyplayer
Then again this is just ridiculous. There is indeed this mechanical effect that if you have to prepare for Proleague only, you're going to play better there. But I still can't see how Pantech would be better off with their only champion not shining. Plus, NaDa's recently-acquired badass-ness (remember the four badges ceremony ?) just doesn't seem to fit in the whole "team is all that matters" picture.
My opinion is NaDa has been playing so bad lately, he had to be distracted by something. He just doesn't want to disclose what it is, thus came up with a fancy excuse.
On June 10 2007 20:08 Hot_Bid wrote: --to that one guy saying NaDa intentionally dropped out of OSL and MSL to focus on proleague, that's 100% absolutely ridiculous. he's 9-7 in proleague and the maps overlap. if you look at the way he's lost, it's pretty clear he's simply playing bad overall, even in proleague too. carnac's reaction to you was almost justified because what you said was probably the most fanboyish thing in this thread.
Good job pulling statistics that don't matter. Why does his w/l record matter before he claimed to focus in the Proleague? He has been living up to his claim as of now, 4-0 since he said he'd like to focus in the Proleague.
your logic is really bad
you say he's losing in OSL and MSL purposely because he wants to focus on proleague
he's been losing in those since they started, so he should be focusing on proleague since the beginning right?
nevermind that all players focus on proleague and find practice for individual leagues on their own time.
if he only started focusing on proleague in his last 4 or so matches, that is not an excuse for losing in the MSL and OSL because the MSL/OSL games happened way before his past 4 matches
the level of excuses you'll come up for nada is amazing. he's just playing bad. it happens. he has ups and downs, or something is distracting him, or he's slumping, or he's burning out. let's hope it's not the last one. but thinking its because he purposely threw OSL/MSL matches is just ridiculous and very fanboyish. can you even find one other person who agrees with you?