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On July 19 2008 05:10 TheTyranid wrote: There aren't many games left this month so go go predictions. I'm thinking top 5 for next month are:
1. Jaedong (without question)
2. Forgg (because in series vs Flash he showed that he is a more complete player than just a macro bot. If he wins MSL then 2'nd without question)
3. July (he is past prime unlike Best or Forgg but he got the fucking Golden Mouse)
4. Best (Shaky vs Lux, epic fail vs July. The OSL final was ALL July and I was shocked how Best was dominated. Best was also hitting himself repeatedly on the head afer the series indicating he was extremely disappointed. This could be a big mental toll on him and he could possibly slump.)
5. Flash (Flash is slumping, plain and simple. He is 7-12 in his last 19 games and is using the same macro oriented build every time. He has lost the spark, the confidence, and a high PR rank)
6-10. Kal, Luxury, Lomo, Leta, Shuttle.
Leta is hot. He is 4-0 this month and is on a 6 game win streak. If he wins in PL tomorrow he should have a low PR spot.
July at @3 are you kidding me? Hes only beaten protoss, and not even Protoss [remotely] known for their pvz. In fact, quite the opposite. At best July should get five considering his untested zvt and lack of quality opponents. I'd say:
1. jaedong
2. forgg
3. Best
4. Kal
5. July
6. Flash
7. Luxury
8. Hwasin
9. Lomo
10. I have no idea. I can think of a lot of people for cbnc but not for #10...
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the only ranking on which July might be above #5 is the korean progamer weight chart... he has ONE good match-up and that finally brought him the OSL win. It surely was the luckiest win in progaming history, beating a medium Zerg, a drunken Luxury, 2 Ps who really suck at PvZ and finally Best who was playing his worst series this year. His win vs. Luxury was followed by a loss against fake-Yellow (43% vs. Z) so this is kind of compensated and we can't call his ZvZ anything but medium. His ZvT is untested as mentioned above; remember he won his last bo3/bo5 vs. T two years ago!! So he shouldn't be ranked really that high. In my mind a good choice would be
1/2. Forgg/Jaedong (there is the final to put them into the right order) 3. Best (played like total ass in the finals, but still one of the best) 4. Luxury 5. Flash (well.. it's getting down) 6. July (though I hate him, a golden mouse is golden mouse is a golden mouse is...) 7. Kal (tough player, great series vs. forgg) 8. FBH 9. Jangbi (same as FBH, they made Samsung KHAN finishing first in Pro League) 10. Pure
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On July 19 2008 06:17 ScarFace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2008 05:10 TheTyranid wrote: There aren't many games left this month so go go predictions. I'm thinking top 5 for next month are:
1. Jaedong (without question)
2. Forgg (because in series vs Flash he showed that he is a more complete player than just a macro bot. If he wins MSL then 2'nd without question)
3. July (he is past prime unlike Best or Forgg but he got the fucking Golden Mouse)
4. Best (Shaky vs Lux, epic fail vs July. The OSL final was ALL July and I was shocked how Best was dominated. Best was also hitting himself repeatedly on the head afer the series indicating he was extremely disappointed. This could be a big mental toll on him and he could possibly slump.)
5. Flash (Flash is slumping, plain and simple. He is 7-12 in his last 19 games and is using the same macro oriented build every time. He has lost the spark, the confidence, and a high PR rank)
6-10. Kal, Luxury, Lomo, Leta, Shuttle.
Leta is hot. He is 4-0 this month and is on a 6 game win streak. If he wins in PL tomorrow he should have a low PR spot.
July at @3 are you kidding me? Hes only beaten protoss, and not even Protoss [remotely] known for their pvz. In fact, quite the opposite. At best July should get five considering his untested zvt and lack of quality opponents. I'd say: 1. jaedong 2. forgg 3. Best 4. Kal 5. July 6. Flash 7. Luxury 8. Hwasin 9. Lomo 10. I have no idea. I can think of a lot of people for cbnc but not for #10...
Flash @6 are you kidding me?
Best in the world as I see it right now. And I look beyond individual leagues unlike some of you.
1. Jaedong 2. Flash 3. Hwasin (yup) 4. Sea (yup) 5. Stork (yup) 6. Best (won't make another starleague final in my eyes but hes solid and will hang around) 7. Luxury 8. Kal 9. July (don't care if he won OSL, his vs P / Z are top notch but his v T is still average for a pro) 10. NaDa (ForGG, Jangbi and Mind close behind)
With Sir.sAviOr after that for simply being awesome and extremely underrated right now.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Lol G5 that is not a serious list is it?
@ Polar Bear Jaedong imo is guaranteed 1'st for next month. Jaedong raped, R-A-P-E-D Much so hard that even my own behind felt a sting. ForGG did not even come close to dominating his quarters and semis opponentsas Jaedong did. Even if ForGG wins the MSL, he should only be ranked 2'nd. Even though he is starting to look like a complete player, he is untested just like Best. What if he slumps hard right after the MSL win and never comes back? Also he lost 2-0 to Shuttle in the GSL and that will count against him and his fearsome TvP.
@ Scarface, what has Kal done to be 2 spots above Flash?
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well, Kal put up a hell of a better fight against ForGG (unlike Flash), and ForGG's TvP is definitely better than his TVT.
I actually agree that Kal is better than Flash at the moment.
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On July 19 2008 07:36 TheTyranid wrote: @ Scarface, what has Kal done to be 2 spots above Flash? Uhh what has Flash done in the last two months to warrant our continued confidence in him? Hes my favourite pro gamer, but I have to admit hes looking poor. He would receive fifth or sixth place because of how strong he was not long ago, not because of his current strength. If he continues to play the way he currently is, frankly, he wont be on the Power rank in a few months.
Kal is the best right now in Protoss vs Zerg, a very strong Pvt player, and solid [though not great] at pvp. Hes winning matches. Thats something more than can be said for Flash. Hes all around and consistent, which is also more than be said for July and Best. Best has problems with pvz, and July has not shown strong zvt in a long time. Just as when Kal reached 4th place on the power rank, it was more as a result of others failures than his own merits, is the same way he will achieve 3rd. Other than forgg and Jaedong, no one is more consistent and all rounded.
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On July 19 2008 07:36 TheTyranid wrote: Lol G5 that is not a serious list is it?
@ Polar Bear Jaedong imo is guaranteed 1'st for next month. Jaedong raped, R-A-P-E-D Much so hard that even my own behind felt a sting. ForGG did not even come close to dominating his quarters and semis opponentsas Jaedong did. Even if ForGG wins the MSL, he should only be ranked 2'nd. Even though he is starting to look like a complete player, he is untested just like Best. What if he slumps hard right after the MSL win and never comes back? Also he lost 2-0 to Shuttle in the GSL and that will count against him and his fearsome TvP.
@ Scarface, what has Kal done to be 2 spots above Flash?
He wasn't as dominant, but I think he did good enough considering the opponents. A lot of people were saying Flash has the best TvT, and maybe he still does. The 2-0 over Sea looks a lot more like ForGG winning instead of Sea choking now. Kal is also very solid. This sounds like he's been tested against tough opponents, not untested.
Don't get me wrong, Jaedong is obviously number 1 now and doing very well, but if ForGG wins I think he will have proven himself.
Lol, after reading this I can't believe I'm arguing fucking ForGG to take the number 1 spot in power rank.
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On July 19 2008 06:22 Polar_Bear wrote: the only ranking on which July might be above #5 is the korean progamer weight chart... he has ONE good match-up and that finally brought him the OSL win. It surely was the luckiest win in progaming history, beating a medium Zerg, a drunken Luxury, 2 Ps who really suck at PvZ and finally Best who was playing his worst series this year. His win vs. Luxury was followed by a loss against fake-Yellow (43% vs. Z) so this is kind of compensated and we can't call his ZvZ anything but medium. His ZvT is untested as mentioned above; remember he won his last bo3/bo5 vs. T two years ago!! So he shouldn't be ranked really that high. In my mind a good choice would be
1/2. Forgg/Jaedong (there is the final to put them into the right order) 3. Best (played like total ass in the finals, but still one of the best) 4. Luxury 5. Flash (well.. it's getting down) 6. July (though I hate him, a golden mouse is golden mouse is a golden mouse is...) 7. Kal (tough player, great series vs. forgg) 8. FBH 9. Jangbi (same as FBH, they made Samsung KHAN finishing first in Pro League) 10. Pure
July has 2 good mach ups ZvZ and ZvP althought he is not as dominant as Best , but he sure did kill him in the finals . I wouldn't mind seeing July above Best for that matter . I don't know who sucked more this month Best or Flash , but it has to be Flash . I don't know if the Intel classic is at all influencing this rank at all ...
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On July 19 2008 06:22 Polar_Bear wrote: His win vs. Luxury was followed by a loss against fake-Yellow (43% vs. Z) so this is kind of compensated and we can't call his ZvZ anything but medium. The results of that game didn't matter. I would be surprised if he was trying his best.
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On July 19 2008 06:51 G5 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2008 06:17 ScarFace wrote:On July 19 2008 05:10 TheTyranid wrote: There aren't many games left this month so go go predictions. I'm thinking top 5 for next month are:
1. Jaedong (without question)
2. Forgg (because in series vs Flash he showed that he is a more complete player than just a macro bot. If he wins MSL then 2'nd without question)
3. July (he is past prime unlike Best or Forgg but he got the fucking Golden Mouse)
4. Best (Shaky vs Lux, epic fail vs July. The OSL final was ALL July and I was shocked how Best was dominated. Best was also hitting himself repeatedly on the head afer the series indicating he was extremely disappointed. This could be a big mental toll on him and he could possibly slump.)
5. Flash (Flash is slumping, plain and simple. He is 7-12 in his last 19 games and is using the same macro oriented build every time. He has lost the spark, the confidence, and a high PR rank)
6-10. Kal, Luxury, Lomo, Leta, Shuttle.
Leta is hot. He is 4-0 this month and is on a 6 game win streak. If he wins in PL tomorrow he should have a low PR spot.
July at @3 are you kidding me? Hes only beaten protoss, and not even Protoss [remotely] known for their pvz. In fact, quite the opposite. At best July should get five considering his untested zvt and lack of quality opponents. I'd say: 1. jaedong 2. forgg 3. Best 4. Kal 5. July 6. Flash 7. Luxury 8. Hwasin 9. Lomo 10. I have no idea. I can think of a lot of people for cbnc but not for #10... Flash @6 are you kidding me? Best in the world as I see it right now. And I look beyond individual leagues unlike some of you. 1. Jaedong 2. Flash 3. Hwasin (yup) 4. Sea (yup) 5. Stork (yup) 6. Best (won't make another starleague final in my eyes but hes solid and will hang around) 7. Luxury 8. Kal 9. July (don't care if he won OSL, his vs P / Z are top notch but his v T is still average for a pro) 10. NaDa (ForGG, Jangbi and Mind close behind) With Sir.sAviOr after that for simply being awesome and extremely underrated right now.
stork?
really?
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Dont bother with it fusion, his entire list is ridiculous lol...
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I might be wrong and cynical by saying this but seems like TL make sea number one because he agreed to the TL attack? Im not saying that he's bad or anything, but I just dont feel like he should be number 1.
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On July 22 2008 04:37 NexyNexy wrote: I might be wrong and cynical by saying this but seems like TL make sea number one because he agreed to the TL attack? Im not saying that he's bad or anything, but I just dont feel like he should be number 1.
Well at least you were nice about saying it unlike some people. Just ignore Sea's placement, move everybody up one spot and put much at number 10 and voila! the real powerrank appears
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On July 22 2008 04:37 NexyNexy wrote: I might be wrong and cynical by saying this but seems like TL make sea number one because he agreed to the TL attack? Im not saying that he's bad or anything, but I just dont feel like he should be number 1.
reaaaaaaaad theeeeeeee threeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
and the power rank itself for that matter
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We should put a disclaimer and ignore all further people who didn't get it.
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On July 22 2008 05:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2008 04:37 NexyNexy wrote: I might be wrong and cynical by saying this but seems like TL make sea number one because he agreed to the TL attack? Im not saying that he's bad or anything, but I just dont feel like he should be number 1. reaaaaaaaad theeeeeeee threeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad and the power rank itself for that matter
I have read it, I just dont think that people should be "ranked" like this. I mean, maybe you do, but like thats your opinion and I have my opinion on this too.
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On July 22 2008 08:21 NexyNexy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2008 05:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On July 22 2008 04:37 NexyNexy wrote: I might be wrong and cynical by saying this but seems like TL make sea number one because he agreed to the TL attack? Im not saying that he's bad or anything, but I just dont feel like he should be number 1. reaaaaaaaad theeeeeeee threeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad and the power rank itself for that matter I have read it, I just dont think that people should be "ranked" like this. I mean, maybe you do, but like thats your opinion and I have my opinion on this too.
you and your opinion can eat shit and die
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On July 22 2008 08:21 NexyNexy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2008 05:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On July 22 2008 04:37 NexyNexy wrote: I might be wrong and cynical by saying this but seems like TL make sea number one because he agreed to the TL attack? Im not saying that he's bad or anything, but I just dont feel like he should be number 1. reaaaaaaaad theeeeeeee threeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad and the power rank itself for that matter I have read it, I just dont think that people should be "ranked" like this. I mean, maybe you do, but like thats your opinion and I have my opinion on this too.
Sea isn't #1 for the official PR. He's just there to remind everyone how awesome he's been for the last month. The real PR starts from Jaedong to Much. Don't take things too literally.
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No, Sea IS #1 due to performance. Did you see how he trounced JF and Cloud?
fakesteve put Sea up there for a reason. He's been trouncing his opposition
Please stop trolling people by telling them it was a joke. Tell them the real reason: that Sea IS that much better than the rest of the field
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July not deserving of a higher rank because his ZvT is untested, but is OSL champ + has golden mouse? While stork not too long ago was at 2nd spot, losing all important matches and losing to the worst zergs on the face of the earth. Bullshit reason, just say you don't like him. You guys suck and I'm glad FakeSteve does the PowerRank
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