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Calgary25938 Posts
On July 29 2008 04:07 Tinithor wrote: I don't see how the maps made 1 bit of difference in those games.
Really? It wasn't JD's bad play, it was his scrappy builds being dictated by the maps. Othello was the most fair map and he got simply outplayed on it, but the other two are T>Z and T>>>Z. I had faith in Jaedong's solid play being able to overcome it, but I guess it couldn't...
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United States40776 Posts
On July 31 2008 17:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: backho is not going on the power rank
he's a shitty fucking player, if you want to pretend he had "GREAT RESULTS THIS MONTH" maybe you should pay attention to what fucking happens in leagues. backho lost more games than he won this month
don't try to tell me his win over nada in wcg makes him power rank material because i'll laugh in your face A win over NaDa doesn't alone make him PR material. None of his individual wins do. Even vs high profile opponents such as Kal or Stork. It's when you take all his wins and put them in a big row that you realise that he just keeps on winning. You can excuse one or two games but BackHo is past that now. He's proving himself to be a regular starleague player. No other contender for 10 is getting the results he is. BackHos play looks bad because his strengths, multitasking and macro, aren't immediately obvious to you. It's far easier to pick apart his decision making because when he slips up there you see lots of blue goo and it's obvious. Whereas players who on the face of it look much stronger because they don't suicide their armies get consistantly rolled, simply because they're outmacroed, outplayed and owned. You can watch a straight up PvZ where the P doesn't make any huge mistakes but just gets slowly behind and eventually loses. He looks like a decent enough player but he doesn't win games. BackHo's mistakes are obvious but his results are quite frankly undeniable. He is a far stronger player than all the no-names who look pretty but don't actually win games. BackHo lost more games because he got into two bo5s with FlaSh and July. Hold that against him if you will but given nobody is arguing that we should put BackHo above either of them it's a complete straw man and you know it. For you to argue that those 6 losses should stop him being #10 you have to argue that your candidate for #10 wouldn't have lost them. Doing anything else is simply punishing him for making two semifinals. He played higher level opponents than most get to in the average month and that is completely skewing the statistics. Putting some noob with a positive win rato above him simply because the noob wasn't good enough to earn bo5s with July and FlaSh is absurd.
Quite frankly Steve, you're wrong. He looks shitty but he wins the games. I'll take that over a player who looks good and loses games. When it comes to winning games, which really should be what the PR is about, BackHo qualifies. His semi final losses vs players who are higher on the PR than I'd place him shouldn't be held against him.
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Calgary25938 Posts
On August 02 2008 01:19 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2008 17:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: backho is not going on the power rank
he's a shitty fucking player, if you want to pretend he had "GREAT RESULTS THIS MONTH" maybe you should pay attention to what fucking happens in leagues. backho lost more games than he won this month
don't try to tell me his win over nada in wcg makes him power rank material because i'll laugh in your face A win over NaDa doesn't alone make him PR material. None of his individual wins do. Even vs high profile opponents such as Kal or Stork. It's when you take all his wins and put them in a big row that you realise that he just keeps on winning.
+ 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Twilight) Othello (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)July Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)July Loss + 08-07-01 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Haran Loss
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and then if you want 2008:
+ Show Spoiler ++ 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Twilight) Othello (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)July Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)July Loss + 08-07-01 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Haran Loss + 08-06-20 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)JangBi Win + 08-06-20 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (P)JangBi Win + 08-06-16 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)BoxeR Win + 08-06-13 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (P)JangBi Loss + 08-05-30 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (P)Bisu Win + 08-05-21 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (T)Mind Loss + 08-05-14 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)Much Win + 08-04-21 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)Chalrenge Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (T)Casy Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Jaedong Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)GGPlay Loss + 08-01-30 Bacchus OSL (Jungle World) Katrina (T)FrOzean Loss + 08-01-23 Bacchus OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)YellOw[ArnC] Loss + 08-01-18 Bacchus OSL (Twilight) Blue Storm (P)Much Loss + 08-01-06 Shinhan07 Proleagu.. (Jungle World) Katrina (Z)HyunJun Win
This is parallel to the fact that backho sucks terrible ass.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
The question is wo is going to take the #10 spot if not Backho? He has been getting better results than any player outside top 10 with his recent 2-0 over Nada. Midas? Hwasin? These are the only players I can think of. Hwasin did just lose in WCG but he is of course a better player than Backho.
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I guess Leta will be pretty high for his PL performance, but really there wasnt much of a material to judge players skills this month - I can only say ForGG should be #1 and JD shouldnt be higher than #4
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
On August 02 2008 04:49 disciple wrote: I guess Leta will be pretty high for his PL performance, but really there wasnt much of a material to judge players skills this month - I can only say ForGG should be #1 and JD shouldnt be higher than #4 You, my friend, are smoking something fierce. Jaedong is a guaranteed second. Possibly even first (although that won't happen). Who the hell are the other 2 players better than Jaedong? Please enlighten me.
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I'd say 1: ForGG 2: Flash 3: Jaedong 4: Luxury 5: July 6: Best 7: Kal 8: Hwasin 9: Leta 10: Backho
Really tough decision, since not much has happened this month but i think this is what i would put.
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United States40776 Posts
On August 02 2008 02:06 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2008 01:19 Kwark wrote:On July 31 2008 17:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: backho is not going on the power rank
he's a shitty fucking player, if you want to pretend he had "GREAT RESULTS THIS MONTH" maybe you should pay attention to what fucking happens in leagues. backho lost more games than he won this month
don't try to tell me his win over nada in wcg makes him power rank material because i'll laugh in your face A win over NaDa doesn't alone make him PR material. None of his individual wins do. Even vs high profile opponents such as Kal or Stork. It's when you take all his wins and put them in a big row that you realise that he just keeps on winning. + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Twilight) Othello (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)July Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)July Loss + 08-07-01 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Haran Loss k and then if you want 2008: + Show Spoiler ++ 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Twilight) Othello (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)July Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)July Loss + 08-07-01 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Haran Loss + 08-06-20 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)JangBi Win + 08-06-20 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (P)JangBi Win + 08-06-16 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)BoxeR Win + 08-06-13 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (P)JangBi Loss + 08-05-30 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (P)Bisu Win + 08-05-21 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (T)Mind Loss + 08-05-14 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)Much Win + 08-04-21 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)Chalrenge Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (T)Casy Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Jaedong Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)GGPlay Loss + 08-01-30 Bacchus OSL (Jungle World) Katrina (T)FrOzean Loss + 08-01-23 Bacchus OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)YellOw[ArnC] Loss + 08-01-18 Bacchus OSL (Twilight) Blue Storm (P)Much Loss + 08-01-06 Shinhan07 Proleagu.. (Jungle World) Katrina (Z)HyunJun Win This is parallel to the fact that backho sucks terrible ass.
And now add the GSL games. Removing one of the tournaments he got to the semifinals of simply because kespa politics refused it recognition is pointless. The games he played were Starcraft and therefore they count. You can argue that the less important the competition the less they practice so it counts for less but given the GSL prize pool I don't think that's relevant here. Saying a player sucks ass and using a list of games missing the league they came joint 3rd as proof isn't a great argument.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
in the gom league he got brutally 3-0d by flash
he is bad, get over it. he's lost more games than he's won this month
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On August 02 2008 04:59 Tinithor wrote: I'd say 1: ForGG 2: Flash 3: Jaedong 4: Luxury 5: July 6: Best 7: Kal 8: Hwasin 9: Leta 10: Backho
Really tough decision, since not much has happened this month but i think this is what i would put.
Why Flash over Jaedong? Other than his GOM series against BackHo, has Flash really looked that good? Or, other than his loss to fOrGG, has Jaedong really looked that "bad?" Or to put it in another perspective- other than the MSL, Jaedong won almost every game he played in July (only dropped one game to Lomo in GOM). Even with that 3-0 loss, Jaedong is 11-4 in July. Flash is 10-8; Jaedong has more wins with fewer games. And really.. I don't think 3-0ing BACKHO is enough to push Flash over Jaedong (who 3-0'd Shuttle and Much, incidentally).
Lux over July...? Lux played like 2 games in July- loss to HyuK in PL regular season, win over Bisu in ace match for playoffs. Meanwhile July is on a 6 game winstreak (not counting his 2v2), which would have been a 9 game streak if BackHo didn't have the nerve to steal a game during their OSL series. Yeah, he's pretty much only played against Protoss, but Luxury has only won one game (against a recovering-from-slump Bisu).
Speaking of BeSt, what has he done this month? One win over Chalrenge in PL regular season, 3 losses to July in OSL, helped his team get upset by OGN by losing to Leta in PL playoffs... and that's about it. He certainly didn't look too hot against July. Not saying many people have much more to show for it, though... but yeah. The only real argument I could see for BeSt being up there is because there aren't that many other people to put up there.
Leta has won every game he's played in July. He's taken down Kal (twice), fOrGG, Bisu, BeSt, and HiyA during that run. I'd say that deserves some notice over people with nothing but PL commitments underperformed in the clutch (Hwasin, BeSt, Kal)... and well, BackHo certainly didn't win all of his games nor did he look particularly good in any of his games. His opponents just happened to look worse in his wins. He's not terrible, by any means... he's just a sniper who's had some luck against big names who aren't playing well.
Not terribly much to go off of in July for a lot of players... but there's enough to have something better than "well these guys were pretty good in June and they didn't play a lot in July so I guess they should stay here?"
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I put flash in front of JD cause Flash is still seeded for 2 leagues. Luxury i just think has been playing better than July, and how low do you want best to be?
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On August 02 2008 18:18 Tinithor wrote: I put flash in front of JD cause Flash is still seeded for 2 leagues. Luxury i just think has been playing better than July, and how low do you want best to be?
Nah Luxury should be below July even if he is not playing that bad . But Best didn't play too well in the PL offlines even if it was a terram favourite map .
I think it should be like this :
1. ForGG
2/3 . Jaedong/Flash we should wait to see their mach in the IntelClassic but that is on 10 th of August ... So looking at it they did not live up to the expectations , but Jaedong actually lost to han i didn't actually see the game O.o WTF . I'm a massive JD fan but i have to give the second spot to Flash just for this month because he is seeded to both leagues .
4/5 . July/Best. July is not playing bad he did get the OSL Golden mouse stomping Best . Best lost 3 - 0 to July , but he also lost to Leta and i didn't see him show some mark of brilliance even an a T favoured map , so i'm giveing this to July because July is playing good in 2v2 despite the team losing .
6 . I think Luxury should be here just because there is not a more worthy player at the moment . After loseing to Best he was the Hero in the Ace mach vs SKT beating Bisu .
7. From here on i don't think enyone is desivering this spot because i don't find anyone to be doing well . Kal takes this spot just because he is now in the ODT or whatever and is seeded in MSL don't know if it is the survivor or the actual MSL .
8 . I think Leta deserves this spot because he was an a good winning streak before he lost to JD and has winning in PL now were it counts for his team .
9/10 . Some totaly biased players who aren't bad and have managed to qualify for the upcoming ODT / surviver in both MSL and OSL . I vote one of them to be Iris
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 02 2008 01:19 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2008 17:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: backho is not going on the power rank
he's a shitty fucking player, if you want to pretend he had "GREAT RESULTS THIS MONTH" maybe you should pay attention to what fucking happens in leagues. backho lost more games than he won this month
don't try to tell me his win over nada in wcg makes him power rank material because i'll laugh in your face A win over NaDa doesn't alone make him PR material. None of his individual wins do. Even vs high profile opponents such as Kal or Stork. It's when you take all his wins and put them in a big row that you realise that he just keeps on winning. You can excuse one or two games but BackHo is past that now. He's proving himself to be a regular starleague player. No other contender for 10 is getting the results he is. BackHos play looks bad because his strengths, multitasking and macro, aren't immediately obvious to you. It's far easier to pick apart his decision making because when he slips up there you see lots of blue goo and it's obvious. Whereas players who on the face of it look much stronger because they don't suicide their armies get consistantly rolled, simply because they're outmacroed, outplayed and owned. You can watch a straight up PvZ where the P doesn't make any huge mistakes but just gets slowly behind and eventually loses. He looks like a decent enough player but he doesn't win games. BackHo's mistakes are obvious but his results are quite frankly undeniable. He is a far stronger player than all the no-names who look pretty but don't actually win games. BackHo lost more games because he got into two bo5s with FlaSh and July. Hold that against him if you will but given nobody is arguing that we should put BackHo above either of them it's a complete straw man and you know it. For you to argue that those 6 losses should stop him being #10 you have to argue that your candidate for #10 wouldn't have lost them. Doing anything else is simply punishing him for making two semifinals. He played higher level opponents than most get to in the average month and that is completely skewing the statistics. Putting some noob with a positive win rato above him simply because the noob wasn't good enough to earn bo5s with July and FlaSh is absurd. Quite frankly Steve, you're wrong. He looks shitty but he wins the games. I'll take that over a player who looks good and loses games. When it comes to winning games, which really should be what the PR is about, BackHo qualifies. His semi final losses vs players who are higher on the PR than I'd place him shouldn't be held against him.
you're out of your mind if you think theres some magical aspect to starcraft that you know of and i don't
YOU are wrong, and people have a hell of a lot more reason to take my word than yours
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United States40776 Posts
On August 02 2008 20:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2008 01:19 Kwark wrote:On July 31 2008 17:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: backho is not going on the power rank
he's a shitty fucking player, if you want to pretend he had "GREAT RESULTS THIS MONTH" maybe you should pay attention to what fucking happens in leagues. backho lost more games than he won this month
don't try to tell me his win over nada in wcg makes him power rank material because i'll laugh in your face A win over NaDa doesn't alone make him PR material. None of his individual wins do. Even vs high profile opponents such as Kal or Stork. It's when you take all his wins and put them in a big row that you realise that he just keeps on winning. You can excuse one or two games but BackHo is past that now. He's proving himself to be a regular starleague player. No other contender for 10 is getting the results he is. BackHos play looks bad because his strengths, multitasking and macro, aren't immediately obvious to you. It's far easier to pick apart his decision making because when he slips up there you see lots of blue goo and it's obvious. Whereas players who on the face of it look much stronger because they don't suicide their armies get consistantly rolled, simply because they're outmacroed, outplayed and owned. You can watch a straight up PvZ where the P doesn't make any huge mistakes but just gets slowly behind and eventually loses. He looks like a decent enough player but he doesn't win games. BackHo's mistakes are obvious but his results are quite frankly undeniable. He is a far stronger player than all the no-names who look pretty but don't actually win games. BackHo lost more games because he got into two bo5s with FlaSh and July. Hold that against him if you will but given nobody is arguing that we should put BackHo above either of them it's a complete straw man and you know it. For you to argue that those 6 losses should stop him being #10 you have to argue that your candidate for #10 wouldn't have lost them. Doing anything else is simply punishing him for making two semifinals. He played higher level opponents than most get to in the average month and that is completely skewing the statistics. Putting some noob with a positive win rato above him simply because the noob wasn't good enough to earn bo5s with July and FlaSh is absurd. Quite frankly Steve, you're wrong. He looks shitty but he wins the games. I'll take that over a player who looks good and loses games. When it comes to winning games, which really should be what the PR is about, BackHo qualifies. His semi final losses vs players who are higher on the PR than I'd place him shouldn't be held against him. you're out of your mind if you think theres some magical aspect to starcraft that you know of and i don't YOU are wrong, and people have a hell of a lot more reason to take my word than yours I'm aware you make the PR and you're the expert here and maybe I'll understand why you put whoever you make #10 when you do. But I just don't see who has outperformed BackHo recently who isn't above him. This isn't an argument, it's a debate and it'll become much easier when I know who you advocate over him. I didn't mean some magical aspect of Starcraft. I meant that BackHos obviously bad play beats a lot of players obviously good play simply because his strengths are in the mechanics, rather than the strategy. It's the oov highlight video problem. You can't actually make an oov highlight because you can't show macro and timing in a series of 20 second clips. I'm not counting BackHos losses to people above him in PR. Maybe I'm wrong to disregard these but when my candidate for #10 loses to my candidate for #4 PR I don't hold it against him. I'd hold it against him if I wanted him to be #1. But #10 < #4 seems pretty reasonable to me. Equally he shouldn't be penalised for the fact that he lost two bo5s against very high level opponents which completely skewed his wins to losses ratio. Whoever you put as #10 would lose 6 games to July/FlaSh if they could earn the right to play semifinals vs those. That's why July and FlaSh are higher than #10 in the PR. BackHo was good enough to earn bo5s vs very good players. Unless you wish to argue that whoever you put as #10 with their better win ratio wouldn't lose those same 6 games, in which case they ought to be a lot higher than #10, then I don't see why they should be held against him.
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1. ForGG (no explanation needed) 2. JaeDong (this is a PR of this month, and JD's record is much better than Flash's) 3. JulyZerg (he won the OSL, comon) 4. Flash (he's seeded into both leagues, but he kinda sucked this month apart from the Gom league) 5. Luxury (not too bad this month) 6. BeSt (tough loss to Leta) 7. Kal 8. Leta (holy shit...) 9. Midas 10. IriS (he did really well in offlines, compared to players like BeSt and JD and sAviOr)
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all of this backho bashing makes me think we're going to jinx him to get a title o_O
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I agree with fakesteve, Backho does not deserve a spot on PR unless he proves himself to be a skilled player.
Leta in other hand should get a spot on PR, he has been lurking around for long, and showing good games.
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Calgary25938 Posts
On August 02 2008 07:32 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2008 02:06 Chill wrote:On August 02 2008 01:19 Kwark wrote:On July 31 2008 17:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: backho is not going on the power rank
he's a shitty fucking player, if you want to pretend he had "GREAT RESULTS THIS MONTH" maybe you should pay attention to what fucking happens in leagues. backho lost more games than he won this month
don't try to tell me his win over nada in wcg makes him power rank material because i'll laugh in your face A win over NaDa doesn't alone make him PR material. None of his individual wins do. Even vs high profile opponents such as Kal or Stork. It's when you take all his wins and put them in a big row that you realise that he just keeps on winning. + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Twilight) Othello (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)July Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)July Loss + 08-07-01 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Haran Loss k and then if you want 2008: + Show Spoiler ++ 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Twilight) Othello (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-30 WCG2008 Korea (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)NaDa Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)July Win + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)July Loss + 08-07-04 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)July Loss + 08-07-01 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Haran Loss + 08-06-20 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)JangBi Win + 08-06-20 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (P)JangBi Win + 08-06-16 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (T)BoxeR Win + 08-06-13 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (P)JangBi Loss + 08-05-30 EVER2008 OSL (Twilight) Othello (P)Bisu Win + 08-05-21 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (T)Mind Loss + 08-05-14 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)Much Win + 08-04-21 Shinhan08 Proleague (Space Platform) Andromeda (P)Chalrenge Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Desert) Troy (T)Casy Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Space Platform) Andromeda (Z)Jaedong Win + 08-04-16 EVER2008 OSL (Jungle World) Hwarangdo (Z)GGPlay Loss + 08-01-30 Bacchus OSL (Jungle World) Katrina (T)FrOzean Loss + 08-01-23 Bacchus OSL (Desert) Troy (Z)YellOw[ArnC] Loss + 08-01-18 Bacchus OSL (Twilight) Blue Storm (P)Much Loss + 08-01-06 Shinhan07 Proleagu.. (Jungle World) Katrina (Z)HyunJun Win This is parallel to the fact that backho sucks terrible ass. And now add the GSL games. Removing one of the tournaments he got to the semifinals of simply because kespa politics refused it recognition is pointless. The games he played were Starcraft and therefore they count. You can argue that the less important the competition the less they practice so it counts for less but given the GSL prize pool I don't think that's relevant here. Saying a player sucks ass and using a list of games missing the league they came joint 3rd as proof isn't a great argument.
Ok, cool. I got first in the SexyTime league and the SuperBestFriends league, so I'm #2 Britain (behind Midian). I don't care if you've never heard of them, they were StarCraft and therefore they count.
You have to draw the line somewhere, and that line is kespa.
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On August 03 2008 00:42 Chill wrote: Ok, cool. I got first in the SexyTime league and the SuperBestFriends league, so I'm #2 Britain (behind Midian). I don't care if you've never heard of them, they were StarCraft and therefore they count.
You have to draw the line somewhere, and that line is kespa. There's nothing stating that that line must be kespa. It would be more reasonable to draw it between tournaments where many progamers are willing to participate competitively and tournaments that's only for marketing/fun. As in between GSL and WWI.
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BackHo's "highlights" in GOM were DT rushing slumping/kinda-recovering-from-slumping players and getting 3-0'd by another slumping player. Get hype.
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