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On October 31 2008 00:55 Februarys wrote: Bisu is looking good lately btw too...I just wish Bisu's PvT would improve I would like to see Bisu vs JD game again..highest caliber of PvZ
I don't know if Bisu has the best PvZ anymore i think it's all just hype lately .
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On October 31 2008 00:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2008 22:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 30 2008 16:54 OneOther wrote: Hey Jaedong say hi to #7 you said you like JD. If seomebody puts him on 2nd it means he really likes him and has faith in him, if somebody puts him on 4 it means he's rigid and self-consistent, if somebody hates him he puts him on 6th. 7th? You planning to visit your doctor very soon, am i right? I hope so, this level of misjudging should be treated with medicines. How badly had Flash to play to be pushed down to 6th place? JD having a tough week and you give him a 6 rank decrease. I'm used to wierd statements coming from you, but that's not even funny. I hope you change your mind soon and make a good PR as you did last month. P.S.: Fakesteve? Jaedong isn't gonna fall very far. He got outplayed by Free playing the game of his life, but that's how it goes for him. He is consistantly the best player, but sometimes he gets outplayed. He never just up and plays bad, which is a problem for pretty much everyone else. Not many people can contend with Jaedong's consistancy, loss to free or not.
Free is an old PvZ master so when a zerg turtles with four gasses isn't much of a problem for him he knows how to counter this , then the usual just mass and overrun by Jaedong i think it would have been better . Maybe Jaedong could have won but he didn't knew the counter to mass Archons + mass reavers and that counter is pretty simple .You just use queens with broodlings and ensnare + mass hidras than melee units with Swarm to stop it .
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We will see,what can Bisu do against Zerg when he faces and I hope he beats the shit out of Lux.
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I really disagree with Stork being 1st - yeah, he played well, and possibly deserves it - but in all of these accomplishments he has (source: HotBid), he has yet to play a zerg player. Stork would be the favorite against any protoss or any terran player at the moment, I think. But Jaedong would be the favorite against any player, and that includes Stork. I think his PvZ doesn't allow him to be ranked higher than Jaedong.
That is, if the power rank is about the comparative power of the players. Obviously, Stork has better results this month, but Jaedong is still better.
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I agree,but the PR is about monthly performance. Jaedong cannot take the no1 spot away from Stork right now,he should be happy,if Best or Fantasy doesn't take no2 and no3 spots from him. I can only imagine Fantasy taking away the no1 spot from Stork right now,but only in case he takes the OSL,no matter the score.
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On October 31 2008 01:55 Darth Peter wrote: I agree,but the PR is about monthly performance. Jaedong cannot take the no1 spot away from Stork right now,he should be happy,if Best or Fantasy doesn't take no2 and no3 spots from him. I can only imagine Fantasy taking away the no1 spot from Stork right now,but only in case he takes the OSL,no matter the score. It has already been said that the power rank is not about monthly performance. It's about how strong someone looked throughout the month which is not only based on that month's performance. It also factors in the player's history as well.
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Yes,but history doesn't prevent JD from looking bad this month. I think history is only enough right now for JD to not fall lower than 2 place. But I am sure that he will come back on top next month.
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On October 31 2008 01:15 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 00:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 30 2008 22:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 30 2008 16:54 OneOther wrote: Hey Jaedong say hi to #7 you said you like JD. If seomebody puts him on 2nd it means he really likes him and has faith in him, if somebody puts him on 4 it means he's rigid and self-consistent, if somebody hates him he puts him on 6th. 7th? You planning to visit your doctor very soon, am i right? I hope so, this level of misjudging should be treated with medicines. How badly had Flash to play to be pushed down to 6th place? JD having a tough week and you give him a 6 rank decrease. I'm used to wierd statements coming from you, but that's not even funny. I hope you change your mind soon and make a good PR as you did last month. P.S.: Fakesteve? Jaedong isn't gonna fall very far. He got outplayed by Free playing the game of his life, but that's how it goes for him. He is consistantly the best player, but sometimes he gets outplayed. He never just up and plays bad, which is a problem for pretty much everyone else. Not many people can contend with Jaedong's consistancy, loss to free or not. Free is an old PvZ master so when a zerg turtles with four gasses isn't much of a problem for him he knows how to counter this , then the usual just mass and overrun by Jaedong i think it would have been better . Maybe Jaedong could have won but he didn't knew the counter to mass Archons + mass reavers and that counter is pretty simple .You just use queens with broodlings and ensnare + mass hidras than melee units with Swarm to stop it .
Free's pvz is good, you're right there. But, JD not lost beacause he didnt know how to counter the that unit composition. He lost the game when he gone for guardians, and when he saw the corsairs slaughtering the guards he sent his overlords full of units right trough that area. That was overconfidence or just stupidity, however i hope JD learnt from it.
+ Show Spoiler +The next PR starts to look intresting, Kal just brought me some precious liquibet points by beating Stork. How intresting would be if he loses to Fantasy too
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On October 31 2008 01:11 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 00:55 Februarys wrote: Bisu is looking good lately btw too...I just wish Bisu's PvT would improve I would like to see Bisu vs JD game again..highest caliber of PvZ
I don't know if Bisu has the best PvZ anymore i think it's all just hype lately .
yes he does, not becuz his PvZ is godmode, but he's better in this mu than all the other tosses right now (if you dont pick Free over him). Best and Stork both are weak against Z, so who would be? Jangbi? C'mon, it's Bisu.
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On October 31 2008 02:28 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 01:11 raga4ka wrote:On October 31 2008 00:55 Februarys wrote: Bisu is looking good lately btw too...I just wish Bisu's PvT would improve I would like to see Bisu vs JD game again..highest caliber of PvZ
I don't know if Bisu has the best PvZ anymore i think it's all just hype lately . yes he does, not becuz his PvZ is godmode, but he's better in this mu than all the other tosses right now (if you dont pick Free over him). Best and Stork both are weak against Z, so who would be? Jangbi? C'mon, it's Bisu.
well, Free is really good PvZ, I guess OneOther said that Free is weak PvZ just because he wasn`t payin` attention. I bet he knows that Free is good PvZ
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On October 31 2008 00:44 Darth Peter wrote: How are you going to contribute in the Pr, FS?
i write it
the last two months were graciously done by deadvessel and oneother cuz i was hella busy
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On October 31 2008 02:46 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 02:28 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 31 2008 01:11 raga4ka wrote:On October 31 2008 00:55 Februarys wrote: Bisu is looking good lately btw too...I just wish Bisu's PvT would improve I would like to see Bisu vs JD game again..highest caliber of PvZ
I don't know if Bisu has the best PvZ anymore i think it's all just hype lately . yes he does, not becuz his PvZ is godmode, but he's better in this mu than all the other tosses right now (if you dont pick Free over him). Best and Stork both are weak against Z, so who would be? Jangbi? C'mon, it's Bisu. well, Free is really good PvZ, I guess OneOther said that Free is weak PvZ just because he wasn`t payin` attention. I bet he knows that Free is good PvZ
yep, free has always been pretty good at pvz
before the bisu era he was the only protoss who was consistant in the matchup too
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Okay,then I should ask how will OneOther contribute in the PR? I am really glad,because Oneother is great,but we are accustomed with you writing it. Just please,I know you're busy,but try to make it in time.
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this thread is owned by Romanians :O
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Bah, shit will get hard to sort out if Stork loses to Fantasy. If he wins, automatic #1. No question.
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On October 31 2008 01:44 TarsTarkas wrote: I really disagree with Stork being 1st - yeah, he played well, and possibly deserves it - but in all of these accomplishments he has (source: HotBid), he has yet to play a zerg player. Stork would be the favorite against any protoss or any terran player at the moment, I think. But Jaedong would be the favorite against any player, and that includes Stork. I think his PvZ doesn't allow him to be ranked higher than Jaedong.
That is, if the power rank is about the comparative power of the players. Obviously, Stork has better results this month, but Jaedong is still better. This system doesn't work though. It's unfair for the player who is playing outstandingly to be ranked lower than someone who's had a bad (relatively) month.
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I think stork should be first in the PR no matter what happens in the final of OSL, for me the top 5 is Stork BeSt Jd Fantasy Bisu
free anyone ? No. he shouldnt be higher than #6. If NaDa can beat one of the guys left in the MSL thats him
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if stork loses in the final, then no, he should not be number 1...
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His entire month of mind-blowing performances cannot be taken away from him in 2 Bo5s seeing how the first one+ Show Spoiler +. No one looked and played better than Stork this month. Even if he loses the finals tomorrow.
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Bisu should be higher than Jaedong, methinks? Only for this month, at least. He made it to the OSL Ro8, brought Stork to game 3. In the MSL he won convincingly. In PL, he contributes well. He's 10-3 this month, losing only to Stork, and to fbh's new TvP. Arguably he played better than JD this month.
BeSt did not, though. :p So he should be lower than both.
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