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On January 16 2009 02:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: At the top of the screen when you read the Power Rank, the date it came out appears. It also shows it on the main Power Rank page with all the previous listings, I think.
Ayup, this is true. Thanks much.
I think it might be a good idea to have more stats shown for the period other than just your writeup and their rank/movement. Maybe add the player's record over the entire month, notable wins and losses, and what leagues the player is currently in.
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On January 16 2009 02:46 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:28 raga4ka wrote:On January 16 2009 02:22 disciple wrote: guys your are so wrong PvZ is not bisu's best MU... thats his reputation but the fact is his PvP is his best... go check out the stats. before his OSL semi vs stork he had 15-15 record. After this he is on a total rampage against toss. After the series he is above 70% in the MU, not to mention that all bisu has done for his PvZ in the past year is to shit all over his impressive stats Well PvP is maybe Bisu's best MU , but all of the six dragons have great PvP and are good vs someone and bad vs the other ( except maybe Free ? ) . Bisu's been known for his PvZ , because he boosts good results in a MU were good zergs dominate it . Actually PvP isnt the best MU of the Dragons. I would call it slightly the worst. Bisu and Best are really good at it, Free, Kal struggle, Jangbi is ok, and Stork used to be super-strong but recently he lost to backho and some other losses in PL. Everybody but Stork and Best got very good vZ skills, and even them, mostly Best, are showing results against good zergs. And who has weak vT? Kal maybe? I'd say he's just inconsistent, but...
Here's how it breaks down (and I must say that referring to them as 'dragons' is intensely lame ):
PvP:
Bisu is stronger than anyone Best is strong mechanically but weak mentally Stork is strong, but he's Stork, he plays bad sometimes Jangbi is strong, but this is a recent development Kal is weak free is weak
PvT:
Bisu is strong Best is strong but inconsistant Stork is strong Jangbi is strong, possible stronger than anyone Kal is inconsistant free is inconsistant
PvZ:
Bisu is inconsistant Best is learning slowly Stork has solved his problems Jangbi is strooooooooong Kal is potentially the strongest, but still very inconsistant free is inconsistant
These are my observations after watching many, many games from every player.
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Man I just realized how 3 teams totally own the PR: 3 from khan 2 from SKT 2 from OGN
:O
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On January 16 2009 02:47 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: At the top of the screen when you read the Power Rank, the date it came out appears. It also shows it on the main Power Rank page with all the previous listings, I think. Ayup, this is true. Thanks much. I think it might be a good idea to have more stats shown for the period other than just your writeup and their rank/movement. Maybe add the player's record over the entire month, notable wins and losses, and what leagues the player is currently in.
I try to keep the information relevant. There's already too many people who go to TLPD and quote statistics before doing anything else.
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this really must have been a hard power rank to do. but still, even though i agree there is no definitive #1... Jangbi??????????
and even though i've been a staunch supporter of leta... #2 is a bit high. and i disagree a bit with your analysis of his gameplay... in this era of 14cc/siege expand, leta's consistent facport build is even a bit unorthodox.
still, if anything this power rank was ballsy
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On January 16 2009 02:31 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:28 raga4ka wrote:On January 16 2009 02:22 disciple wrote: guys your are so wrong PvZ is not bisu's best MU... thats his reputation but the fact is his PvP is his best... go check out the stats. before his OSL semi vs stork he had 15-15 record. After this he is on a total rampage against toss. After the series he is above 70% in the MU, not to mention that all bisu has done for his PvZ in the past year is to shit all over his impressive stats Well PvP is maybe Bisu's best MU , but all of the six dragons have great PvP and are good vs someone and bad vs the other . Bisu's been known for his PvZ , because he boosts good results in a MU were good zergs dominate it . bisu is known for his pvz because nobody can do the things he can in this MU. His style is unique and great to watch. And btw Bisu has pretty solid records against all the 'dragons' even stork. I'm not excusing bisu's last 4 pvz losses, not at all. Just the comments about 'lol bisu lost in his best MU to 3 noobs' are really pissing me off.
His style is unique thats for sure i don't know "the great to watch part " thought, because as a zerg player i hate it when somebody is occuping me with Sairs and DT/reaver and sneaks an other expo without the army to protect it . And by the time i notice it he has already has solid defences / army Thats a zerg mistake , but sometimes i see his expos very vulnerable to an attack and i don't like it . Where Kal's style which i like watching is to gain map control and then take that expo as quickly as possible . Meaning if Bisu fucks up with his harras he would have a hard time gaining map control and protecting his third base .
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On January 16 2009 02:51 d_so wrote: this really must have been a hard power rank to do. but still, even though i agree there is no definitive #1... Jangbi??????????
and even though i've been a staunch supporter of leta... #2 is a bit high. and i disagree a bit with your analysis of his gameplay... in this era of 14cc/siege expand, leta's consistent facport build is even a bit unorthodox.
still, if anything this power rank was ballsy
haha, the play of other people doesn't change what is safe
fac port is very, very conservative, much more so than 14cc.
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On January 16 2009 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
PvZ:
Bisu is inconsistant Best is learning slowly Stork has solved his problems Jangbi is strooooooooong Kal is potentially the strongest, but still very inconsistant free is inconsistant
Kal is 9-1 in his last 10. He doesn't play many PvZs, but I think he is pretty much the best PvZer right now (especially with Bisu starting to suck and 2 wins of JD in his last 5).
EDIT: but yeah, that 1 lose WAS to Yarnc, so I guess he is a bit inconsistent.
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On January 16 2009 02:53 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
PvZ:
Bisu is inconsistant Best is learning slowly Stork has solved his problems Jangbi is strooooooooong Kal is potentially the strongest, but still very inconsistant free is inconsistant
Kal is 9-1 in his last 10. He doesn't play many PvZs, but I think he is pretty much the best PvZer right now (especially with Bisu starting to suck and 2 wins of JD in his last 5). EDIT: but yeah, that 1 lose WAS to Yarnc, so I guess he is a bit inconsistent.
Yeah. Kal's PvZ is often overlooked. He loses some really dumb games sometimes, but overall I don't think it's a stretch to say his is the best. Jangbi comes close, Bisu is just too shaky these days.
edit: thank you for formatting your post better! I was gonna edit my own and fix it and then edit yours, but you did it for me
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On January 16 2009 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
PvT:
Bisu is strong Best is strong but inconsistant Stork is strong Jangbi is strong, possible stronger than anyone Kal is inconsistant free is inconsistant
Dunno, I like Jangbis pvt A LOT (the games vs pepe were just awesome), but I seriously doubt that he'd won the BO3 against Flash.
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o, and jaedong should get +points for introducing QUEENS TO STARCRAFT IT WAS HIS INVENTION HE CREATED ENSNARE
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MrHoon
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Kal is like Kingdom
One day he totally owns every little thing out of his opponents making them look retarded as fuck.
Next day he loses like a B-Team amateur
But I love him <3
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On January 16 2009 02:56 Djin)ftw( wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
PvT:
Bisu is strong Best is strong but inconsistant Stork is strong Jangbi is strong, possible stronger than anyone Kal is inconsistant free is inconsistant
Dunno, I like Jangbis pvt A LOT (the games vs pepe were just awesome), but I seriously doubt that he'd won the BO3 against Flash.
I'd say he has a better chance against Flash than most Protoss. I mean, pepe is a punching bag, so we shouldn't care what happens to him. As much as I love Flash and dislike Jangbi, evidence suggests that Jangbi would take a series against him.
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i dont agree about Free's vZ being inconsistent, i think he's just as good as Kal. His only real loss is against Saint, other than that from JD at the time WCG Korea was held, lately dropped a game against Savior and JD in series that he won.
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T_T Noooo Bisuuu... Don't do this to me...
EDIT: The person with balls the size of watermelons is not July, it's FakeSteve. You know what I mean.
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MrHoon
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On January 16 2009 02:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:56 Djin)ftw( wrote:On January 16 2009 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
PvT:
Bisu is strong Best is strong but inconsistant Stork is strong Jangbi is strong, possible stronger than anyone Kal is inconsistant free is inconsistant
Dunno, I like Jangbis pvt A LOT (the games vs pepe were just awesome), but I seriously doubt that he'd won the BO3 against Flash. I'd say he has a better chance against Flash than most Protoss. I mean, pepe is a punching bag, so we shouldn't care what happens to him. As much as I love Flash and dislike Jangbi, evidence suggests that Jangbi would take a series against him.
Wasn't there a game where Flash and Jangbi had a 1 hour stalemate and the refs had to call a rematch?
Jangbi won in the end if memory serves correctly. But goddamn that was fun. Flash just sat there taping his mousepad while jangbi was rubbing his chin trying to think of what to do.
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On January 16 2009 02:59 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 16 2009 02:56 Djin)ftw( wrote:On January 16 2009 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
PvT:
Bisu is strong Best is strong but inconsistant Stork is strong Jangbi is strong, possible stronger than anyone Kal is inconsistant free is inconsistant
Dunno, I like Jangbis pvt A LOT (the games vs pepe were just awesome), but I seriously doubt that he'd won the BO3 against Flash. I'd say he has a better chance against Flash than most Protoss. I mean, pepe is a punching bag, so we shouldn't care what happens to him. As much as I love Flash and dislike Jangbi, evidence suggests that Jangbi would take a series against him. Wasn't there a game where Flash and Jangbi had a 1 hour stalemate and the refs had to call a rematch? Jangbi won in the end if memory serves correctly. But goddamn that was fun. Flash just sat there taping his mousepad while jangbi was rubbing his chin trying to think of what to do.
Yeah, on Blue Storm. Jangbi had a maxed army with like 14 carriers, Flash had a maxed army with a ton of Goliaths. Since Flash only had a few tanks, he couldn't push up into Jangbi's highground, and since even a few tanks are tanks, Jangbi couldn't attackmove into Flash's highground. Flash had built so many turrets all over the map that the match stalemated, both players out of money and neither willing to move across the map from their impenetrable defensive position.
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On January 16 2009 02:59 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 16 2009 02:56 Djin)ftw( wrote:On January 16 2009 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
PvT:
Bisu is strong Best is strong but inconsistant Stork is strong Jangbi is strong, possible stronger than anyone Kal is inconsistant free is inconsistant
Dunno, I like Jangbis pvt A LOT (the games vs pepe were just awesome), but I seriously doubt that he'd won the BO3 against Flash. I'd say he has a better chance against Flash than most Protoss. I mean, pepe is a punching bag, so we shouldn't care what happens to him. As much as I love Flash and dislike Jangbi, evidence suggests that Jangbi would take a series against him. Wasn't there a game where Flash and Jangbi had a 1 hour stalemate and the refs had to call a rematch? Jangbi won in the end if memory serves correctly. But goddamn that was fun. Flash just sat there taping his mousepad while jangbi was rubbing his chin trying to think of what to do. Yeah, split map on Blue Storm. I think they are 1-1 overall.
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I'd swap Leta with Jangbi for #1 and Yellow for Kal, other then that i fully agree with this ranking^^ GJ !
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On January 16 2009 03:12 Itachii wrote: I'd swap Leta with Jangbi for #1 and Yellow for Kal, other then that i fully agree with this ranking^^ GJ !
I would agree with you if Leta didn't lose that Ace match to JangBI and Kal to Yarnc .
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