Power Rank 03/04/2009 - Page 11
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:23 Signet wrote: CNBC is BackHo. Now that he can't play, he's been reading strategy guides, so when he comes back those great mechanics will finally be backing up sensible strategies. Starcraft world, get ready to receive your next bonjwa. Whats CNBC? | ||
FragKrag
United States11530 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On March 08 2009 14:25 Sentenal wrote: + Show Spoiler [Bisu is crazy] + The end of Bisu vs RorO was ridiculous. He launched a huge attack at RorO's 3oclock expo/killed RorO's army, zealot dropped 12oclock expo (killed every drone), storm dropped RorO's main (killed every drone, then merged the archon), and expanded to a new expo, all at the same time. The Observer/Camera-guy couldn't even keep up with everything that was happening. someone should make a new bisu highlight movie with that included in it | ||
lordmordor
United States209 Posts
in fact, i think a single highlight vid featuring the very best of Bisu, Jaedong, and Flash would be awesome. A showcase of the best current players of each race proving their dominance in one vid. | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 09 2009 04:51 Polar_Bear wrote: This has been the best for a long time, gj!! Can't wait to see the CBNC. @Geo: I don't believe anyone has >500 apm I think around 400 is the highest ever reached, anything above 300 for Z or P and above 350 for T is very very rare. Also apm is not the best indicator for skill. Some players were great though they had relatively low apm (Savior around 230-250, Nal_rA around 200-250). edit: Could you tell me were you read this? right, i should have posted the link form the start: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89072 i dont know if the pictures loads for you, they did for me last time, but now they dont. There you can see statistics of by.hero vs Leta, Hwasin, Fantasy and i dont know who more, including highest/average/lowest APM and whatnot, i cant read Korean ANd btw Flash, Jaedong are above 400, Bisu is around 400 too, and strangely enough they are the best represantive of thier races. Is true that players with significantly less APM put up results, well at least in the recent history of progaming (Stork most recently) but as Stork claims, it's more and more about speed nowadays | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 09 2009 05:52 fanatacist wrote: APM isn't everything, just because he can spam a bit faster and more consistently than anyone else doesn't mean anything really. I dont know about that. ppl on iccup spam like crazy taht's true, but korean progamers are known for having useful APM. well, they spam at the start too, but as they claim thats for warmup/ maintaining speed. I see no reason for them to spam. This might be an exception, but i dont see why. As is stated befor in my previous post, those who have high apm are ruling the scene. Only excxeption i can think of is Stork, who's usually 300 or less. I dont know about Light, Leta and Luxury but the others from the top10 PR are known for especially high APM. And they might have high apm too, i dont say they dont, i just dont know about them. | ||
[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
On March 07 2009 15:27 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: I'm sorry you didn't enjoy reading the other accurate PRs Don't mock on my english | ||
samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On March 09 2009 21:07 Geo.Rion wrote: right, i should have posted the link form the start: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89072 i dont know if the pictures loads for you, they did for me last time, but now they dont. There you can see statistics of by.hero vs Leta, Hwasin, Fantasy and i dont know who more, including highest/average/lowest APM and whatnot, i cant read Korean ANd btw Flash, Jaedong are above 400, Bisu is around 400 too, and strangely enough they are the best represantive of thier races. Is true that players with significantly less APM put up results, well at least in the recent history of progaming (Stork most recently) but as Stork claims, it's more and more about speed nowadays Nope. Flash has around 280-320, his apm is not over 400. Nada has above 400 apm but flash uses a macromanagement style that requires less apm, Stork has around 280 and Bisu is around 370-400 since he uses a harass intensive style and Jaedong has above 400. | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 10 2009 01:04 samachking wrote: Nope. Flash has around 280-320, his apm is not over 400. Nada has above 400 apm but flash uses a macromanagement style that requires less apm, Stork has around 280 and Bisu is around 370-400 since he uses a harass intensive style and Jaedong has above 400. from where did you get these statistics? About stork, jaedong and bisu are what i just said, but i'm quite sure i saw some stats where Flash had 400+. Maybe that was TvZ and his other Mus are slower or idk. And Nada is really that fast? i didnt know that. | ||
brjdrb
United States577 Posts
On March 10 2009 01:09 Geo.Rion wrote: from where did you get these statistics? About stork, jaedong and bisu are what i just said, but i'm quite sure i saw some stats where Flash had 400+. And Nada is really that fast? i didnt know that. Maybe that was TvZ and his other Mus are slower or idk nada has always been known for his extremely fast hands | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 10 2009 03:48 brjdrb wrote: nada has always been known for his extremely fast hands oh shit, i was referrin to Flash, i m gonna edit | ||
latent
United States428 Posts
One of the things about zerg players is how difficult it is to control so many units with a 12 unit per group count. Their lives will become much easier with SC2. | ||
Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On March 10 2009 08:42 latent wrote: Umm...Bisu's APM is NOT 370-400. He's protoss. Protoss generally have low APM. I remember watching a b.net attack episode where they talked about his low APM. He actually has a relatively low APM even for a Protoss user. He's in the lower 200s. He tried to maximize his APM on a particular program without worrying about microing well, and barely broke 300. Part of what makes him so great is his incredible game sense. You could clearly see it in his game vs. Nada, where he just 'maphacked' and perfectly predicted when and where Nada would send a dropship full of vultures, without ever spotting a starport. One of the things about zerg players is how difficult it is to control so many units with a 12 unit per group count. Their lives will become much easier with SC2. You did read that translated Stork interview before posting, did you? | ||
baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 10 2009 08:45 Mooncat wrote: You did read that translated Stork interview before posting, did you? Even before, I was pretty certain that everyone knew Bisu had ridiculously fast APM for a protoss user. I think he and Jangbi are both up there. Savior and Stork are notorious for their low APMs though. You can certainly see that in their playstyles. | ||
iloahz
United States964 Posts
On March 10 2009 08:42 latent wrote: Umm...Bisu's APM is NOT 370-400. He's protoss. Protoss generally have low APM. I remember watching a b.net attack episode where they talked about his low APM. He actually has a relatively low APM even for a Protoss user. He's in the lower 200s. He tried to maximize his APM on a particular program without worrying about microing well, and barely broke 300. Part of what makes him so great is his incredible game sense. You could clearly see it in his game vs. Nada, where he just 'maphacked' and perfectly predicted when and where Nada would send a dropship full of vultures, without ever spotting a starport. One of the things about zerg players is how difficult it is to control so many units with a 12 unit per group count. Their lives will become much easier with SC2. There are many replays of Bisu, and they show that he indeed does have apm near 400. | ||
LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On March 10 2009 08:42 latent wrote: Umm...Bisu's APM is NOT 370-400. He's protoss. Protoss generally have low APM. I remember watching a b.net attack episode where they talked about his low APM. He actually has a relatively low APM even for a Protoss user. He's in the lower 200s. He tried to maximize his APM on a particular program without worrying about microing well, and barely broke 300. Part of what makes him so great is his incredible game sense. You could clearly see it in his game vs. Nada, where he just 'maphacked' and perfectly predicted when and where Nada would send a dropship full of vultures, without ever spotting a starport. One of the things about zerg players is how difficult it is to control so many units with a 12 unit per group count. Their lives will become much easier with SC2. Yeah dude you don't know what you're talking about. Read the interviews and watch some more games. They have all said Bisu is one of the high APM tosses... On March 10 2009 09:17 LucasWoJ wrote: For whatever reason, I remember Bisu's APM being around 300-320 when he beat savior, but it's tremendously improved. After the OSL game, his was shown to be around 370-380 (don't recall precisely). After his injury before (or at the beginning) of summer, I think he even said in an interview that it sunk as low as 270-280 per game. Clearly he's been able to recover quite well. Nice insight there if that's true. His wrist DEFINITELY affected his playing... but his slump did seem to start before his wrist injury. | ||
fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 10 2009 08:42 latent wrote: Umm...Bisu's APM is NOT 370-400. He's protoss. Protoss generally have low APM. I remember watching a b.net attack episode where they talked about his low APM. He actually has a relatively low APM even for a Protoss user. He's in the lower 200s. He tried to maximize his APM on a particular program without worrying about microing well, and barely broke 300. Part of what makes him so great is his incredible game sense. You could clearly see it in his game vs. Nada, where he just 'maphacked' and perfectly predicted when and where Nada would send a dropship full of vultures, without ever spotting a starport. One of the things about zerg players is how difficult it is to control so many units with a 12 unit per group count. Their lives will become much easier with SC2. Please... Please stop... I can't read... Any more... T_T So... terrible... | ||
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