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Valhalla18444 Posts
HI DUDES
PR coming this weekend! I've got a night of drinking ahead of me and a hellacious week at work come Monday. StarCraft is, as always, my little hermit world where I retreat when I need to feel infallible. In life, I'm just a regular jackoff. In StarCraft, I'M FAKESTEVE. BOW DOWN.
It should be no surprise who #1 is, in fact the top 5 seem pretty clear-cut. It's been a simple month without much in the way of ambiguous, convoluted results and gameplay. The winners are clear, the losers even clearer.
Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers, it's Friday night
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Hungary11232 Posts
edit: Oh hai Steve! Great to hear that PR is coming!
About Jangbi: If judging Jangbi, you should consider that he actually won 2 BO5 before he lost to luxury. He beat Nada 3-2, and Nada was certainly no pushover on that day. He shut out Stork with a brutal 3-0, always pulling ahead by a margin and building that advantage into a crushing victory. Can you say the same about, say, Luxury's competition and posture on the way to the finals?
Don't get me wrong. Luxury beat Jangbi in the end, and he proved to be the better player on that day. But the consistency that Jangbi has shown across this MSL AND in Winners League has simply been amazing.
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What's with upcoming events? OSL final, new PR and that's it? End of starcraft?
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Hungary11232 Posts
On April 03 2009 19:45 arbiter_md wrote: What's with upcoming events? OSL final, new PR and that's it? End of starcraft? Huh?
Proleague is starting again on the 11th. MST Offline Prelims took place yesterday. OGN Offline Prelims will take place soon. GOM Season 3 kicked off a week ago.
What do you want?
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On April 03 2009 14:04 Geo.Rion wrote: You forget the fact that the special event means money and pride too, so they did practice a lot.
It felt like you prepared a lot for today. ▲ Bisu = I actually didn’t prepare that much. I think winning the first match warmed me up. The other protoss players know a lot of builds so I received a lot of advice.
July = I would like it if there were more events like this in the future. I wish they would raise the prize 10x so that I could fully practice and participate.
Games are great, dont get me wrong, but they dont mean anything, its just a fun event.
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On April 03 2009 22:36 Samurai- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 14:04 Geo.Rion wrote: You forget the fact that the special event means money and pride too, so they did practice a lot. Show nested quote + It felt like you prepared a lot for today. ▲ Bisu = I actually didn’t prepare that much. I think winning the first match warmed me up. The other protoss players know a lot of builds so I received a lot of advice. Show nested quote +July = I would like it if there were more events like this in the future. I wish they would raise the prize 10x so that I could fully practice and participate. Games are great, dont get me wrong, but they dont mean anything, its just a fun event. I'm owned T.T really, point there
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Its a fun event, yeah but I bet the players want to win still, and they practice all day. Its a good event to show some raw skill without tremendous preparation vs a specific opponent.
I don't prepare any special for games that i play on iccup but if i reach a high level it still tells you something of my skill.
WL is also a good example of this, winning alot of games without preparing for a specific opponent.
Results weigh heavy yeah but you have to look at the games also.
1. jaedong 2. bisu 3. luxury/fantasy(if he wins osl) 4. flash/jangbi
rest i dont know
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On April 04 2009 00:03 StylishVODs wrote: Its a fun event, yeah but I bet the players want to win still, and they practice all day. Its a good event to show some raw skill without tremendous preparation vs a specific opponent.
I don't prepare any special for games that i play on iccup but if i reach a high level it still tells you something of my skill.
WL is also a good example of this, winning alot of games without preparing for a specific opponent.
Results weigh heavy yeah but you have to look at the games also.
1. jaedong 2. bisu 3. luxury/fantasy(if he wins osl) 5. flash/jangbi
rest i dont know but yeah ^^, I agree with any combination of bisu/lux/fantasy(2-4)
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Assuming Jaedong beats Fantasy, what exactly would make him be higher than JangBi? Of course this changes if he manages to beat Jaedong, but...
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On April 02 2009 12:56 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2009 12:44 traced wrote: luxury above bisu? seriously? get outta town Do you want to wager a 2-day ban? (for fun?) yeah sure
pretty low stakes considering it's between seasons though
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On April 04 2009 03:25 traced wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2009 12:56 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 02 2009 12:44 traced wrote: luxury above bisu? seriously? get outta town Do you want to wager a 2-day ban? (for fun?) yeah sure pretty low stakes considering it's between seasons though
Wtf are you guys even confident about your opinions? I'm wagering a lifetime IP ban
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Luxury won the MSL. Bisu played like an ass and got 3-0ed by Fantasy. How would Lux not be above Bisu in the next PR?
If you look at Proleague as well, I suppose Bisu's results are a bit more impressive throughout March, but he still lost to HoeJja in the playoffs. In WL playoffs, Lux closed out the series vs. SKT1 against Fantasy and Best after Flash was good for 0 wins, and lost in ZvZ to Jaedong in the next round. Really no shame there.
I'm not really saying that Luxury's better than Bisu, cause well, despite being a huge Luxury fan, Bisu's still clearly a better player, but looking at March, I can't see Luxury not being above Bisu. Luxury was 9-6 since the last PR to Bisu's 8-5, and his wins were bigger than Bisu's wins and losses smaller than Bisu's losses.
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bisu in march for games that actually count: W against 815, roro, keke, mind, nada in winners league, loss against by.hero, hoejja in WL playoffs where he only went 1-1. 0-3 loss against fantasy in OSL semifinals.
then special events: 3-2 against jaedong. we all saw this. it was always one sided games for either players. then he all killed terran lineup yes. but didn't he also lose to savior? if we are gonna bring up these performances, stork going 3-0 on zerg should be counted also to rank him higher. no, these are nice treats but not truly the same as if jaedong and bisu were head to head in the OSL finals. there is alot less on the line in a special event vs winner league playoffs or OSL run near the finals.
luxury on the other hand: losses against nbs and leta in winners league, but in WL playoffs, he finished up skt fantasy and best to clutch the win. sure he lost in the next round to jaedong, but who DOESNT lose z v z to jaedong? he 3-0'd zero, made him look like some chump b- zerg, he beat jangbi 3-1 in MSL, and had the poise to take the whole damn thing. sure he lost to fantasy 1-2, but u know, fantasy is playing like a pimp.
fantasy hasnt done shit in winners league this month besides take a win over slumping flash in playoffs. but when it matters the most, he delivers. he 2-1'ed luxury, followed by a 3-0 raping of bisu. he did just as well as bisu in the WL playoffs record wise, but at least he didnt get knocked off by hoejja, and lost to the MSL champ.
#1 jaedong #2 luxury #3 fantasy #4/#5 bisu/jangbi (interchangeable) #6 by.hero #7 nada #8 stork #9 doesnt even matter beyond here, ill stick skyhigh at #10, but he only really killed jaedong cheese rushing, and two scrub tosses and hiya handing the game over to him. at least he was poised enough to reverse all kill lecaf. #10 skyhigh
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On April 03 2009 18:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:HI DUDES PR coming this weekend! I've got a night of drinking ahead of me and a hellacious week at work come Monday. StarCraft is, as always, my little hermit world where I retreat when I need to feel infallible. In life, I'm just a regular jackoff. In StarCraft, I'M FAKESTEVE. BOW DOWN. It should be no surprise who #1 is, in fact the top 5 seem pretty clear-cut. It's been a simple month without much in the way of ambiguous, convoluted results and gameplay. The winners are clear, the losers even clearer. Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers, it's Friday night
you are probably just waiting for OSL finals before PR just to see where to fit fantasy~~ im sure your top 4 isn't done yet~~ XD
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On April 04 2009 07:06 deathgodtoss wrote:+ Show Spoiler +bisu in march for games that actually count: W against 815, roro, keke, mind, nada in winners league, loss against by.hero, hoejja in WL playoffs where he only went 1-1. 0-3 loss against fantasy in OSL semifinals.
then special events: 3-2 against jaedong. we all saw this. it was always one sided games for either players. then he all killed terran lineup yes. but didn't he also lose to savior? if we are gonna bring up these performances, stork going 3-0 on zerg should be counted also to rank him higher. no, these are nice treats but not truly the same as if jaedong and bisu were head to head in the OSL finals. there is alot less on the line in a special event vs winner league playoffs or OSL run near the finals.
luxury on the other hand: losses against nbs and leta in winners league, but in WL playoffs, he finished up skt fantasy and best to clutch the win. sure he lost in the next round to jaedong, but who DOESNT lose z v z to jaedong? he 3-0'd zero, made him look like some chump b- zerg, he beat jangbi 3-1 in MSL, and had the poise to take the whole damn thing. sure he lost to fantasy 1-2, but u know, fantasy is playing like a pimp.
fantasy hasnt done shit in winners league this month besides take a win over slumping flash in playoffs. but when it matters the most, he delivers. he 2-1'ed luxury, followed by a 3-0 raping of bisu. he did just as well as bisu in the WL playoffs record wise, but at least he didnt get knocked off by hoejja, and lost to the MSL champ.
#1 jaedong #2 luxury #3 fantasy #4/#5 bisu/jangbi (interchangeable) #6 by.hero #7 nada #8 stork #9 doesnt even matter beyond here, ill stick skyhigh at #10, but he only really killed jaedong cheese rushing, and two scrub tosses and hiya handing the game over to him. at least he was poised enough to reverse all kill lecaf. #10 skyhigh
you forgot about flash, i hope^^
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On April 03 2009 18:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:HI DUDES PR coming this weekend! I've got a night of drinking ahead of me and a hellacious week at work come Monday. StarCraft is, as always, my little hermit world where I retreat when I need to feel infallible. In life, I'm just a regular jackoff. In StarCraft, I'M FAKESTEVE. BOW DOWN. It should be no surprise who #1 is, in fact the top 5 seem pretty clear-cut. It's been a simple month without much in the way of ambiguous, convoluted results and gameplay. The winners are clear, the losers even clearer. Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers, it's Friday night
Glad to hear it, although I agree with the others that the primary reason for the delay is the OSL finals. However, I think that is fine since a lot of events wrapped up these days and it would be good to encompass all of them.
By the way, you were probably asked this many times before, but I was wondering....if you are the fake Steve, then where is the real Steve?
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On April 04 2009 08:46 Tom Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 18:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:HI DUDES PR coming this weekend! I've got a night of drinking ahead of me and a hellacious week at work come Monday. StarCraft is, as always, my little hermit world where I retreat when I need to feel infallible. In life, I'm just a regular jackoff. In StarCraft, I'M FAKESTEVE. BOW DOWN. It should be no surprise who #1 is, in fact the top 5 seem pretty clear-cut. It's been a simple month without much in the way of ambiguous, convoluted results and gameplay. The winners are clear, the losers even clearer. Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers, it's Friday night Glad to hear it, although I agree with the others that the primary reason for the delay is the OSL finals. However, I think that is fine since a lot of events wrapped up these days and it would be good to encompass all of them. By the way, you were probably asked this many times before, but I was wondering....if you are the fake Steve, then where is the real Steve? the real Steve is fake.
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Im surprised that noone took the opportunity to do a PR for april on april the 1st, lol.
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