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51134 Posts
On June 05 2009 18:13 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2009 17:27 Captain Apathy wrote: Group B = Club Day MSL semifinals Was it really? I don't remember it too well. I know kal beat stork to get into semis and jangbi beat kal to get into finals, and of course bisu was there since he won it, but free?
Free beat Jaedong to get to the semi's where he got raped by Bisu.
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Voted B for the sheer consistency across the board. Woulda voted F, but Movie sucks.
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Oh god Group F is ridiculous. 2 of top 3 terrans (2 and 3 imo), top zerg and movie (lol). Poor, poor movie. Looks like CJ is going to lose one right off the bat .
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On June 05 2009 06:15 Dylancool2 wrote: T_T. Am i the only on who thinks that group G is going to be the most fun? I love watching Flash, and Savior.
canata in a group with 2 other terrans. fun? i think not.
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United States1719 Posts
go leta!! I know you can make it out of group f over that arrogant bastard fantasy T_T I was so mad when watching the group selections...
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I voted Group F. The Question is, who will go on? Leta or Fantasy? Basically I think if Leta pulls himself together he will do it, but it might be some heavy, legendary war between those two exceptional player. As for Jaedong and Movie... Jaedong will just take his swarm an massacre everything on his way, leaving merely a part Leta and Fantasys soul alive to fight against each other. Movie will be consumed entirely and then stomped by either Terrans to the point of no return.
Of course that is only my opinion, but if you ask me, Id rather not serve as a unit under Movie these days :D
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Canada5066 Posts
wtf? Clearly G.
Savior + Canata will make it EZ, Flash who?
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
voted F but after some thinking i think B is actually more deadly, as from group B 2 at least A-Class players are guaranteed to drop but from F only 1
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First I was going for the jaedong-fantasy combo but then I noticed the dragons clumped.. can't get any deadlier than that!
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United Arab Emirates5090 Posts
group F
followed by group B
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On June 05 2009 14:39 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2009 13:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 05 2009 12:42 AzureEye wrote:On June 05 2009 12:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote: Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP. are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth? I'm not insane, I'm realistic. Stork's PvP is good, he was almost on par with Bisu's PvP when Stork was on his winning streak (But Bisu still beat him) And according to Stork himself, he says that Jangbi almost always beats him in practice. So Jangbi's PvP is above mediocre definately Yes, I never said anything about Stork, but that guy talked it about for no reason. Jangbi's PvP is mediocre right now because he's sucking. When he's on, it's good, but still his weakest MU. This shows you how much you know about how mus. Jangbi is 2 - 6 bisu in gom and msl, dats a 25% win rate. That drops jangbi's pvp mu by a lot. Pvp is jangbi's 2nd best mu. All the other dragons Bisu faced during ClubDay MSL went 1-3 against him. That drops their win rates too. It's kinda pointless to judge a person's PvP by their record vs Bisu. Jangbi's PvP right now is not good. And it is his weakest MU, his PvT and PvZ are stronger. Obviously, his PvP was really good and still can be again, but what's the point of talking about "ifs". Right now it's hovering just above mediocrity. And oh, I'm not a khan or bisu fanboy, On June 05 2009 14:44 MuffinDude wrote: So I'm probably looking at this more objectively than you r.
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On June 06 2009 07:28 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2009 14:39 MuffinDude wrote:On June 05 2009 13:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 05 2009 12:42 AzureEye wrote:On June 05 2009 12:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote: Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP. are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth? I'm not insane, I'm realistic. Stork's PvP is good, he was almost on par with Bisu's PvP when Stork was on his winning streak (But Bisu still beat him) And according to Stork himself, he says that Jangbi almost always beats him in practice. So Jangbi's PvP is above mediocre definately Yes, I never said anything about Stork, but that guy talked it about for no reason. Jangbi's PvP is mediocre right now because he's sucking. When he's on, it's good, but still his weakest MU. This shows you how much you know about how mus. Jangbi is 2 - 6 bisu in gom and msl, dats a 25% win rate. That drops jangbi's pvp mu by a lot. Pvp is jangbi's 2nd best mu. All the other dragons Bisu faced during ClubDay MSL went 1-3 against him. That drops their win rates too. It's kinda pointless to judge a person's PvP by their record vs Bisu. Jangbi's PvP right now is not good. And it is his weakest MU, his PvT and PvZ are stronger. Obviously, his PvP was really good and still can be again, but what's the point of talking about "ifs". Right now it's hovering just above mediocrity. And oh, I'm not a khan or bisu fanboy, Show nested quote +On June 05 2009 14:44 MuffinDude wrote: So I'm probably looking at this more objectively than you r. Jangbi's PvZ, while strong and posting a solid record, is completely untested against any top tier zerg talent (most of his wins come from Yarnc). His PvP is pretty good in comparison to that matchup, although jangbi's PvZ is pretty irrelevant here.
As for Kal and Free for group B... Kal and free aren't in the best of form at the moment (free has a losing record in proleague in week 4 and week 5) and both of them don't even have a 50 percent win record v P in their lifetime careers, including the time when they were actually formidable (even BackHo and Pure reach the 50 percent mark). For these reasons, I strongly suggest that group F is faraway more deadly; in fact, Movie's recent record and play suggest he might be more powerful than free at the moment (Following the Winners League, Movie is 6-7 against skilled players with wins over the powerful Jaedong and By.Hero, while Free is 6-8 with his strongest unimpressive wins over Inter.Mind and HoeJJa).
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Okay, I guess Jangbi's vZ is weaker than his vP. But the original point is that right now his vP is just above mediocre, and not all that impressive.
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F, hands down. So looking forward to those matches. Go Movie.
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easiest poll ever. jaedong in any group is almost auto win. throw in leta... duh. then fantasy? gg. group b is a distant 2nd. bisu's all they got. jangbi? hahaha.
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Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
Leta and fantasy are coming out of that group !
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On June 06 2009 07:53 Avidkeystamper wrote: Okay, I guess Jangbi's vZ is weaker than his vP. But the original point is that right now his vP is just above mediocre, and not all that impressive.
True that, but because there arn't many players who are good at pvp (of the 6 dragons, the only one that can beat him now is bisu, stork overall has better pvp, but stork will never beat jangbi, kal and free's pvp were never that good and best is completely out of the picture) jangbi probably has the 2nd best pvp in this msl tied with stork, just because even though stork will lose to jangbi, he'll still have a higher chance of beating every other toss.
On June 06 2009 09:23 casshern wrote: easiest poll ever. jaedong in any group is almost auto win. throw in leta... duh. then fantasy? gg. group b is a distant 2nd. bisu's all they got. jangbi? hahaha.
Jangbi will rip apart leta and fantasy in a box anyday.
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It all depends on MUs, it's good for Jangbi that since Best is sucking right now, no one can really threaten him in PvP besides Bisu even if he's playing below his standards.
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