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Close But No Cigar
Note: This month's rank and CBNC are a bit longer than usual, because immeduately after publishing them I am headed on vacation and will have a very limited ability to defend myself in this thread. Thanks for bearing with me!
ZerO once again misses PR-dom by the tiniest of margins...I'm honestly almost as disappointed as you WJ fans must be. His ZvP looked spot on against Pure in the MSL Ro16, but Zero didn't show us anything at all in his crucial ZvZs this month (vs. JD in the OSL Ro8 and in the 1set of his MSL Ro8 match with Kwanro). I'd have loved to see Zero shut up some of his doubters by turning in even a losing, but solid, performance against Jaedong — alas, he was totally overwhelmed. Without any PL notches in his belt, out of the OSL, and now one set closer to exiting the MSL as well, Zero doesn't hack it this month.
Kwanro beat Flash, proving...that he's a Zerg. His 2-1 MSL Ro16 win was rightfully overshadowed by unforgivably lackluster play in the PL playoffs — a flaw no player on this PR shares. Despite how consistent and winning Kwanro has been this season (especially relative to his own performances in seasons' past), there is no spot for him on this rank.
Flash has only played five games since last month's PR — probably because he's once again out of both major individual leagues before their quarterfinals. I'm getting pretty tired of the same old "Flash is really good, he just loses all of his games" line. Being alive in the MSL and GOM was enough to keep Flash on July's rank, but there were so many big movers this month that I just couldn't justify keeping him in the top 10. Before you Flash apologists cry foul, stop and think who you'd bump to include him. Canata made it further than Youngho in both the MSL and OSL, Skyhigh won more PL playoff games than Flash played in July (and against much tougher opponents than Flash's), Yarnc just topped him in the OSL Ro16, and Type-b smashed a player whose recent TvZ performance is much better than Flash's. And on top of all that, keep in mind that both Zero, who also bested Flash's MSL and OSL performance, and Kwanro, who 2-1d him in the MSL Ro16 — two players who have been just out of PR contention for a while now — are not even on this rank.
JangBi has a place in CBNC for getting his act together in time for Proleague playoffs (dude, he beat a Zerg!), but even with a super ace game win under his belt JB's PL playoff résumé doesn't stack up to Skyhigh's.
Leta almost imploded since July's Power Rank, going 2-6, losing to Type-b in the OSL and failing his team horribly in PL playoffs — it's actually amazing Hite played so even with CJ considering their ace (the supposed "ace match bonjwa") went 0-3 over the series. The reason Leta remains in CBNC is that his losses were — for the most part — excellent games with outcomes that should be primarily attributed to strong play from his opponents (Skyhigh, Movie, Type-b).
Not Close and No Cigar
Kal bombed the MSL Ro16 and couldn't redeem himself by beating Jangbi in PL playoffs. An underwhelming month from another guy who had the potential to make a splash in July.
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Though I expected him to barely miss again, I'm still sad Zero couldn't make it. He'll just have to go ahead and win the MSL and get on next month.
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looks like fantasy is replacing flash in being the top three of each respective race. at least I hope so
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why oh why didnt calm end up above bisu?
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Well worth the wait. Thanks for taking time in your vacation, JWD.
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On August 04 2009 00:41 drug_vict1m wrote: why oh why didnt calm end up above bisu? Bisu's lack of games (not his fault, just scheduling) means we're left to speculate about his rightful position in this rank. And I think you'd have a very tough time convincing anyone that Calm is now a better player than "hypothetical Bisu", considering recent losses to players against which Bisu would undoubtedly be the favorite (JangBi, great, HiyA).
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i feel sad to see kal n leta end up like that and flash
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!!! EEJAEDONG!!!
New PR!
Calm over Effort!
Not sure about high placement of Bisu, it looks to be an old way of doing PR all over again (generally accepted strength over recent performances), not that it's bad, but what's Flash doing outside of top10 then. But good stuff overall!
+ Show Spoiler +Type-b > Flash
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Wow, what a huge PR. Have fun on your vacation!
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On August 04 2009 00:57 Magic84 wrote: Not sure about high placement of Bisu, it looks to be an old way of doing PR all over again (generally accepted strength over recent performances), not that it's bad, but what's Flash doing outside of top10 then. But good stuff overall! The difference between Bisu-Fantasy and Flash is that Bisu and Fantasy played abnormally few games during this month because of scheduling, not losses. I try to weight results over "hypothetical strength" whenever possible, but felt it would be unfair to punish Bisu and Fantasy simply because their PL team was really good during the regular season (and, in Bisu's case, his MSL quarterfinal match is on Day 2).
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ah very nice. the only bone i have to pick with this is how low Yellow[arnc] is... He's alive in the OSL ; against a first timer who's ZvZ is untested. We've seen Yarnc's deadly ZvZ before and there is a STRONG chance that Yarnc will make the OSL finals.
Iris's MSL run looks grim ; and Canata is out of both leagues, i would put Yarnc over them both and right under Effort. But hey besides that~ great PR
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Really surprised to see Calm so high. I know the general idea is that starleague > proleague, but with the recent year-round format, proleague playoff performance should be quite weighted quite heavily(especially since it's the most important league by Korean standard). I mean, Calm only played in the two biggest games of his life and bombed both. Even if you excuse his loss to Jangbi because of Jangbi's excellent retro timing-attack, his loss against Great is a facepalm moment.
Otherwise, not much to comment. Not many games are being played these days, so it's pretty hard to argue anyone over another.
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On August 04 2009 01:02 DreaM)XeRO wrote: ah very nice. the only bone i have to pick with this is how low Yellow[arnc] is... He's alive in the OSL ; against a first timer who's ZvZ is untested. We've seen Yarnc's deadly ZvZ before and there is a STRONG chance that Yarnc will make the OSL finals.
Iris's MSL run looks grim ; and Canata is out of both leagues, i would put Yarnc over them both and right under Effort. But hey besides that~ great PR Come on dude, you can't base the PR on expected future results! If Yarnc's spot in the OSL finals, Iris's MSL results, and Canata's lack of individual league games will all be reflected in next month's rank
Thanks for the props though, appreciate it! And thanks for being patient ^^
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I like this rank. At first, I thought it was just my fanboyism...but the arguments make sense. I had forgotten Canata qualified during this month, for example. And I've never understood Flash's special treatment.
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On August 04 2009 00:57 Magic84 wrote:!!! EEJAEDONG!!! New PR! Calm over Effort! Not sure about high placement of Bisu, it looks to be an old way of doing PR all over again (generally accepted strength over recent performances), not that it's bad, but what's Flash doing outside of top10 then. But good stuff overall! + Show Spoiler +Type-b > Flash
Do you think anyone below Bisu is currently better than him?
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What about Stork? He was THIS close to beat Fantasy's unbeatable TvP (Bisu's his teammate, so different rules apply ), also was looking like he was winning vs Effort (oh Stork, why do you suicide your army so often? T_T) and overally did good in proleague playoffs, demolishing Much and Skyhigh, and then only barely losing super ace on Zerg-favored map.
Not like I'm demanding a super high place for him, I just want to hear what do you think about him (and he's not in either CBNC nor NCANC).
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On August 04 2009 01:07 ZBiR wrote: Not like I'm demanding a super high place for him, I just want to hear what do you think about him (and he's not in either CBNC nor NCANC). Stork's in neither because I think he had a pretty middling July. Yes he did play about as we expected in PL playoffs (pretty solid) but his teammate JangBi played much better.
Stork was totally in that game against Effort until that poor decision...what a pity. A win there would have completely changed this rank...imagine if Effort didn't have to worry about PL anymore, I wonder if he would have played better against Calm?
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Interesting PR this month.five zergs and four terrans in it.but only one protoss.no other toss is even close.just goes to show you how dominant zergs are nowadays.if this goes on then we'll see something similar to the six dragons emerging for the zergs.
Nice work btw JWD.thnx a lot.have fun on the vacation.
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On August 04 2009 01:10 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2009 01:07 ZBiR wrote: Not like I'm demanding a super high place for him, I just want to hear what do you think about him (and he's not in either CBNC nor NCANC). Stork's in neither because I think he had a pretty middling July. Yes he did play about as we expected in PL playoffs (pretty solid) but his teammate JangBi played much better. Stork was totally in that game against Effort until that poor decision...what a pity. A win there would have completely changed this rank...imagine if Effort didn't have to worry about PL anymore, I wonder if he would have played better against Calm?
Yea, and I never heard of a guy who just did pro in PL suddenly burn out IN THE SAME DAY and ends up losing EIGHT GAMES IN A ROW before he finally started winning again. And game against calm was good? No need going twelve hatch every game. Even when jaedong was being overplayed, he had to play more because of his ace matches, he never went on a epic losing streak like dat.
I'm pretty sure effort's game v great wasn't a nine pool speed but nine pool lair.
Jangbi's playoff resume was more impressive than skyhigh's. When cj v khan game ended, Jangbi was at 4 - 1 and skyhigh was at 3 - 1. Skyhigh pulled ahead because he played two more games and I'm pretty sure jangbi could take on anyone on oz except for jaedong with relative ease.
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