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On July 30 2011 14:22 jyisvip wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 14:16 Salacious wrote: Wow people the Terran Koreans are NOT "outclassing" the NA/Europeans. This is a new Terran build/realization that has caught fire on the Korean server. Boxer, MMA and MVP are copying almost the exact same build (mass blue flame with minor tweaks) every single game. Foreign players have no idea how to counter this yet and thus auto-lose. This is completely different than being "outclassed" as a player.
I'm sorry, but I respect the Koreans as players, but this copy+paste surprise build that smashes every player at MLG is damn boring.
P.S. And no, this is not just a special Slayers build as JP was asking about in the interview - MVP used the build twice in a row against select to achieve instant wins and he's in IM.
When MVP saw select's double gas and went fast raven, which select did like 0 damage with, it was all downhill from there for him. Then MVP multitasked like a boss landing vikings to take damage, spiltting helions, putting down auto turrets AND sending a late-made banshee to main mineral line which took out 10 SCVS. I see this as outclassing (Although I know select fking good too) And no, MVP's build and the slayer's build against Z are not the same
You make a good point, and no the builds are no exactly the same, but mass blue flame hellion in every game vs. Koreans is definitely a new style that the foreigners clearly don't know how to deal with.
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damn this music is pretty sick. anyone know what it is?
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lol some hard beats. sick
edit okay this is the 6th beat and they getting all war epic. whens da show
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yeah seriously those were some sick beats.. someone must know
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On July 30 2011 14:34 ooni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 14:30 Salacious wrote:On July 30 2011 14:23 TerlocSG wrote:On July 30 2011 14:16 Salacious wrote: Wow people the Terran Koreans are NOT "outclassing" the NA/Europeans. This is a new Terran build/realization that has caught fire on the Korean server. Boxer, MMA and MVP are copying almost the exact same build (mass blue flame with minor tweaks) every single game. Foreign players have no idea how to counter this yet and thus auto-lose. This is completely different than being "outclassed" as a player.
I'm sorry, but I respect the Koreans as players, but this copy+paste surprise build that smashes every player at MLG is damn boring.
P.S. And no, this is not just a special Slayers build as JP was asking about in the interview - MVP used the build twice in a row against select to achieve instant wins and he's in IM.
You talk about 2 different types of builds in your little rant here. Theres the TvZ ones, which MMA and Boxer used extremely well to win their games. With those builds MMA said in his interview they were not identical. They were based on the player they were playing against and their own play style to take advantage of their strengths and their opponents weaknesses. The other type was the TvT one that MVP used was different. He didn't elevator marines and BF hellions into the main, but harassed with banshees or defended with ravens while his hellions poked and prodded as well as they could. I would say Select got completely outclassed both games. I agree that the builds are not exactly the same and I should revise my post as stating that the game-changing element of all of these builds has been the use of mass blue-flame hellion. I've never seen blue flame hellion used in mass to win games so easily. Even the casters are surprised and are "expecting to see the same build over and over again". I'd like to see some longer games from these players, but alas like someone else posted - the fastest way to the win is the ticket. And to someone else who described my post as rant . . . yes it was iono about that, every game, Terran had +1 base making at the end... Even the attack failed I don't see how Zerg can counter attack with 2 units... It's a very strong build, obviously roach or baneling would stop it if one multitasks well. I am sure after the attack a longer game was planned but we can't see if the players just die to a pressure.
Yeah I'm hoping that the foreigners figure out how to defend this style so they can get into the late game. MMA seemed surprised in his interview saying that he was hoping to show more of his play, but as the foreigners are dying so quick to hellions there's no need.
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ummm mma vs socke still not going?
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whats mma vs socke score?
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is it just me, or does one of the guys in the audience look like he's 40
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On July 30 2011 14:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ummm mma vs socke still not going? My thoughts exactly... was scheduled to start at same time as Incontrol vs Idra over 15 minutes ago?
I mean in relativity compared to other delays this is absolutely nothing so I'm not gonna complain too much... more curious as to what is causing the hold up then anything
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On July 30 2011 14:48 Chairman Ray wrote: is it just me, or does one of the guys in the audience look like he's 40
Don't worry, that's Halo
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On July 30 2011 14:49 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 14:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ummm mma vs socke still not going? My thoughts exactly... was scheduled to start at same time as Incontrol vs Idra over 15 minutes ago? I mean in relativity compared to other delays this is absolutely nothing so I'm not gonna complain too much... more curious as to what is causing the hold up then anything
lol yah, great games still going so it's all good, but would like to see that game......
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On July 30 2011 14:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ummm mma vs socke still not going?
MMA's computer literally imploded.
We'll be starting it up any minute now.
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On July 30 2011 14:50 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 14:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ummm mma vs socke still not going? MMA's computer literally imploded. We'll be starting it up any minute now.
It couldn't handle the amount of instructions sent my MMA's playing?
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On July 30 2011 14:50 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 14:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ummm mma vs socke still not going? MMA's computer literally imploded. We'll be starting it up any minute now.
More awesome than your computer has room for
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173. epgimix wins via DQ vs. 45. Duckload-White-Ra in OWR2
WHAAAAAAAAT
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On July 30 2011 14:50 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 14:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ummm mma vs socke still not going? MMA's computer literally imploded. We'll be starting it up any minute now. Thanks for the update
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On July 30 2011 14:50 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 14:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ummm mma vs socke still not going? MMA's computer literally imploded. We'll be starting it up any minute now. Um. Literally? I'm trying to picture that, but I can't. Pics or it didn't happen?
But yeah, no hurry! Just glad to know what's going on, and thanks for the update. :D
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On July 30 2011 14:52 RPR_Tempest wrote: 173. epgimix wins via DQ vs. 45. Duckload-White-Ra in OWR2
WHAAAAAAAAT
Ya I read this in the other thread. T_T This is so sad... I want WhiteRa to do well, and he has to get a bye to some no name.
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On July 30 2011 14:52 RPR_Tempest wrote: 173. epgimix wins via DQ vs. 45. Duckload-White-Ra in OWR2
WHAAAAAAAAT
This makes me a VERY sad panda, White-Ra better make it out of the lower bracket, he's one of the best players there.
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On July 30 2011 14:52 RPR_Tempest wrote: 173. epgimix wins via DQ vs. 45. Duckload-White-Ra in OWR2
WHAAAAAAAAT
Anyone got official word on this?
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