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On September 30 2011 21:08 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 21:05 Quotidian wrote:On September 30 2011 20:59 Alric wrote:On September 30 2011 20:57 Quotidian wrote: cute warp prism play, but pvp is still the most retarded MU in the game where expanding most of the time means you lose. Once FE is pretty common in pvp, then maybe it'll be worth watching.. :\ The Protoss "zero rally distance" mechanic makes that difficult, sadly. No defenders advantage. well yeah.. I've been saying that the warp gate mechanic was a horrible idea since the beta. Unfortunately it'll probably carry over to HOTS. On September 30 2011 20:59 yotis wrote:On September 30 2011 20:57 Quotidian wrote: cute warp prism play, but pvp is still the most retarded MU in the game where expanding most of the time means you lose. Once FE is pretty common in pvp, then maybe it'll be worth watching.. :\ actually its best mirror matchup tbh I'm sure you playing protoss has something to do with that... pretty sure consensus is that it's still tvt Believe me, Protoss don't enjoy PvP. Well... until now. Excuse me while I go lose seven mirrors in a row flying immortals around at the speed of light.
its my fav mu! only cuz ive been doing this immortal drop since season 1 :p
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On October 01 2011 03:42 BarbieHsu wrote: Only 7 games? Isn't it that 9 games are always played in GSTL? I'm confused It's a best of 9. In other words, first to 5 wins.
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If a mod reads this, tomorrow's Arena of Legends is not in the Calendar. It doesn't starts at the same time as WGC Korea :D
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On October 01 2011 04:00 MrCon wrote: If a mod reads this, tomorrow's Arena of Legends is not in the Calendar. It starts at the same time as WGC Korea.
WCG should be at 13:00 KST while AoL should be 17:00 KST as far as I can see?
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Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 21:14 IMPrime wrote: I want to say MVP will win the finals because they have the better players, but literally every team that was the underdog in this playoffs won so far, so I can't count prime out. Only SlayerS were underdogs against IM when they won first. Nobody except SlayerS won as underdog in GSTL even since the time it was an event league. WeRRa couldn't win against oGs MvP couldn't win against SlayerS ZeNEX couldn't win against Startale (it was Zotac Team invitational but whatever) Startale couldn't win against IM (IM was never the underdog in those finals) as underdogs. Only SlayerS won against IM as underdog.
This playoffs, not other playoffs.
Prime vs Startale IM vs MVP Prime vs TSL MVP vs NSH
Every team that won had the lower record during the regular season other than IM vs MVP who were both 3-2, and I'm pretty sure everyone thought IM would win that match because DRG was the only player who made a blip on anyone's radar and so IM could prepare a sniper for him easily (not to mention that IM currently has the two best players in the world).
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On October 01 2011 03:55 TealLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 03:42 BarbieHsu wrote: Only 7 games? Isn't it that 9 games are always played in GSTL? I'm confused It's a best of 9. In other words, first to 5 wins.
I think he understands that it's a BO9.
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On October 01 2011 04:04 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 04:00 MrCon wrote: If a mod reads this, tomorrow's Arena of Legends is not in the Calendar. It starts at the same time as WGC Korea. WCG should be at 13:00 KST while AoL should be 17:00 KST as far as I can see? Yeah I edited xD I saw that the "next live" of gom was at 13 KST, and forgot that GOM broadcast WCG so I thought they had changed to schedule, but no =)
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On September 30 2011 23:24 Cpadolf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 22:02 SenorChang wrote: Quite tired of Artosis underrating Genius even though he has been in Code S forever versus some of the unknown 'stars' of NsHoSeo. It's so hard to drop out of Code S that having been there since the first season doesn't necessarily mean that much. At the same time, it's so hard to break in to Code A and then S from Code B that being stuck there doesn't necessarily mean that much either. Point being, Artosis has had plenty of reasons to hype someone like Sage beyond Genius, Code S or not. Just like there has been plenty of reasons to hype DRG beyond Kyrix or Zenio, who where in Code S for a really long time too. Did you just say its hard to drop out of code s? People say this, but its the exact opposite. MKP, MC, MVP, leenock, etc. have all been dropped out of code s. The only person who is in code s that most likely doesn't deserve it is probably oGsEnsnare. But there is a high reason for this. The reason is, champion of the GSL usually picks him, so because of this, ensnare always gets to pick his own opponent fast. All he needed to do was win 1.
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what just happened genius came out of nowhere
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On October 01 2011 04:25 koolaid1990 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 23:24 Cpadolf wrote:On September 30 2011 22:02 SenorChang wrote: Quite tired of Artosis underrating Genius even though he has been in Code S forever versus some of the unknown 'stars' of NsHoSeo. It's so hard to drop out of Code S that having been there since the first season doesn't necessarily mean that much. At the same time, it's so hard to break in to Code A and then S from Code B that being stuck there doesn't necessarily mean that much either. Point being, Artosis has had plenty of reasons to hype someone like Sage beyond Genius, Code S or not. Just like there has been plenty of reasons to hype DRG beyond Kyrix or Zenio, who where in Code S for a really long time too. Did you just say its hard to drop out of code s? People say this, but its the exact opposite. MKP, MC, MVP, leenock, etc. have all been dropped out of code s. The only person who is in code s that most likely doesn't deserve it is probably oGsEnsnare. But there is a high reason for this. The reason is, champion of the GSL usually picks him, so because of this, ensnare always gets to pick his own opponent fast. All he needed to do was win 1.
LOL people just keeps trashing Esnare and he always finds a way to stay in code S. Does that say something about his skill? Result is what shows skill, not being hyped and jumping on bandwagon.
Same as HongUn and Genius. There are players that are always in Code S and have been in Code S since the beginning of time like them; and there are players who dropped to Code A & B like MC, MVP and MKP; and there are the hypes like Yongwha who is forever Code B
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On October 01 2011 04:33 WhoIsYou wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 04:25 koolaid1990 wrote:On September 30 2011 23:24 Cpadolf wrote:On September 30 2011 22:02 SenorChang wrote: Quite tired of Artosis underrating Genius even though he has been in Code S forever versus some of the unknown 'stars' of NsHoSeo. It's so hard to drop out of Code S that having been there since the first season doesn't necessarily mean that much. At the same time, it's so hard to break in to Code A and then S from Code B that being stuck there doesn't necessarily mean that much either. Point being, Artosis has had plenty of reasons to hype someone like Sage beyond Genius, Code S or not. Just like there has been plenty of reasons to hype DRG beyond Kyrix or Zenio, who where in Code S for a really long time too. Did you just say its hard to drop out of code s? People say this, but its the exact opposite. MKP, MC, MVP, leenock, etc. have all been dropped out of code s. The only person who is in code s that most likely doesn't deserve it is probably oGsEnsnare. But there is a high reason for this. The reason is, champion of the GSL usually picks him, so because of this, ensnare always gets to pick his own opponent fast. All he needed to do was win 1. LOL people just keeps trashing Esnare and he always finds a way to stay in code S. Does that say something about his skill? Result is what shows skill, not being hyped and jumping on bandwagon.
Results are a good metric for skill, but sometimes people post results a whole let better than they deserve. I don't think Ensare's skill is quite up to code S standards, as evident by watching him be outplayed consistently and convincingly. Maybe I just have too high standards
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On October 01 2011 04:09 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 21:14 IMPrime wrote: I want to say MVP will win the finals because they have the better players, but literally every team that was the underdog in this playoffs won so far, so I can't count prime out. Only SlayerS were underdogs against IM when they won first. Nobody except SlayerS won as underdog in GSTL even since the time it was an event league. WeRRa couldn't win against oGs MvP couldn't win against SlayerS ZeNEX couldn't win against Startale (it was Zotac Team invitational but whatever) Startale couldn't win against IM (IM was never the underdog in those finals) as underdogs. Only SlayerS won against IM as underdog. This playoffs, not other playoffs. Prime vs Startale IM vs MVP Prime vs TSL MVP vs NSH Every team that won had the lower record during the regular season other than IM vs MVP who were both 3-2, and I'm pretty sure everyone thought IM would win that match because DRG was the only player who made a blip on anyone's radar and so IM could prepare a sniper for him easily (not to mention that IM currently has the two best players in the world). I guess I need reading comprehension lessons. MVP wasn't the underdog against NSHS though. NSHS doesn't have any dependable players barring Sage and Jjakji. MvP has 4 code s players to fall back on.
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I don't know how relevant this thing really is . Polt for example was in every Code S Season as well and some other guys went down to Code A only to get back immidiatly.
With MKP , Polt and MVP there's 10 guys left that also played in Season 1 of Code S.
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Genius you bastard, you owe us DRG vs Sage!!
Seriously very impressive run from him though. It's been a happy couple of days on Auir :D
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On October 01 2011 04:10 WhoIsYou wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 03:55 TealLurker wrote:On October 01 2011 03:42 BarbieHsu wrote: Only 7 games? Isn't it that 9 games are always played in GSTL? I'm confused It's a best of 9. In other words, first to 5 wins. I think he understands that it's a BO9.
He obviously doesn't if he thinks 9 games are always played.
On October 01 2011 04:42 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 04:33 WhoIsYou wrote:On October 01 2011 04:25 koolaid1990 wrote:On September 30 2011 23:24 Cpadolf wrote:On September 30 2011 22:02 SenorChang wrote: Quite tired of Artosis underrating Genius even though he has been in Code S forever versus some of the unknown 'stars' of NsHoSeo. It's so hard to drop out of Code S that having been there since the first season doesn't necessarily mean that much. At the same time, it's so hard to break in to Code A and then S from Code B that being stuck there doesn't necessarily mean that much either. Point being, Artosis has had plenty of reasons to hype someone like Sage beyond Genius, Code S or not. Just like there has been plenty of reasons to hype DRG beyond Kyrix or Zenio, who where in Code S for a really long time too. Did you just say its hard to drop out of code s? People say this, but its the exact opposite. MKP, MC, MVP, leenock, etc. have all been dropped out of code s. The only person who is in code s that most likely doesn't deserve it is probably oGsEnsnare. But there is a high reason for this. The reason is, champion of the GSL usually picks him, so because of this, ensnare always gets to pick his own opponent fast. All he needed to do was win 1. LOL people just keeps trashing Esnare and he always finds a way to stay in code S. Does that say something about his skill? Result is what shows skill, not being hyped and jumping on bandwagon. Results are a good metric for skill, but sometimes people post results a whole let better than they deserve. I don't think Ensare's skill is quite up to code S standards, as evident by watching him be outplayed consistently and convincingly. Maybe I just have too high standards
Staying constantly ro32 Code S and occasionally peeking his head up to ro16 isn't exactly good results.
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No DRG vs Sage makes me sad.
Although that PvP man, that was the sickest PvP I've seen.
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Honestly I didn't get enough seal from this. I need more seal.
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Protoss Heros in GSTL! First Creator, then Genius.
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