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Evil Geniuses Master's Cup Series League - Season VIIThursday, Mar 22 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)Website: http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametvCasters: Marcus " djWHEAT" Graham & Taylor " PainUser" Parsons FormatThe Evil Geniuses Master’s Cup Series League will feature 12 teams in a round robin format with each team matchup containing at least four best of three games between two teams. The top four teams at the end of the season will advance to the playoffs on a two day live broadcast weekend. ResultsEvil Geniuses vs. ComplexityMVP IdrA <ESV Cloud Kingdom> DongRaeGu + Show Spoiler + IdrA <ESV Cloud Kingdom> DongRaeGu IdrA <GSL Dual Sight> DongRaeGu IdrA <GSL Antiga Shipyard> DongRaeGu1-2 HuK <GSL Antiga Shipyard> TAiLS + Show Spoiler + HuK <GSL Antiga Shipyard> TAiLS HuK <GSL Crossfire SE> TAiLS HuK <GSL Dual Sight> TAiLS1-2 PuMa <GSL Entombed Valley> Minigun + Show Spoiler + PuMa <GSL Entombed Valley> Minigun PuMa <ESV Cloud Kingdom> Minigun2-0 DeMusliM <GSL Crossfire SE> CatZ + Show Spoiler + DeMusliM <GSL Crossfire SE> CatZ DeMusliM<MLG Shakuras Plateau> CatZ DeMusliM <GSL Daybreak> CatZ1-2 Final Score: + Show Spoiler +
Poll Poll: Who do you think will win?coLMVP (143) 52% EG (133) 48% 276 total votes Your vote: Who do you think will win? (Vote): EG (Vote): coLMVP
Lineups+ Show Spoiler + DeMusliM HuK IdrA iNcontroL JYP LzGaMeR Machine PuMa + Show Spoiler + CatZ DongRaeGu Dream Drewbie finale Genius Goswser Heart Keen KeePing Killer Minigun Monster NaDa Noblesse QXC rsvp Ryan Ryze sC Sniper TAiLS TriMaster Week 3 Schedule
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omg, Idra vs DRG? Idra always praises DRG, this is going to be interesting
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IdrA < DongRaeGu HuK > TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM > CatZ
not sure if I did this right, but that's my guesses from the first matches! :>
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Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim > Catz
That should be how it goes, could be a draw if Huk loses the PvP. Puma and and Demuslim are probably playing in their best matchups and against inferior opponents.
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On March 21 2012 19:25 Hardigan wrote: omg, Idra vs DRG? Idra always praises DRG, this is going to be interesting
Not really, this is going to be the worst onesided series ever
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Wow HuK playing in a clan war!! Must have promised him that he will get to play on KR. Should be some sick matches!
EG to win 3-1
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Predictions here are pretty obvious, it should all come down to Huk vs Tails. If Huk wins, EG probably goes 3-1, he loses and it goes to an ace that MVP basically can't lose if they use DRG again.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
It depends on how HuK vs Tails go, if HuK wins then EG wins overall, if not, then it goes into the ace match, which means that DRG will play, and crush.
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there must be so many people on TL who just randomly hate EG and vote against them in times like this for no reason. Pretty much everyone that predicted the scores so far have said 3-1 to EG. And yet 10 people vote against EG....? i dunno saying that i clicked on coLMVP by mistake lol -_-
As everyone has already said, this should be pretty straight forward. Idra will lose, and then EG go 3-1. If however tails beats HuK or Catz pulls some crazy shit and takes out Demuslim, if it goes to the ace match then EG are stuffed, unless JYP could play. His PvZ is off the scale - it'd be close between him and DRG but id probably still favour DRG
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^nice double post (the 2 above this one)
I hope Demu is casting his own games again
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United States97248 Posts
lol idra vs drg. that sucks
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On March 21 2012 19:31 MrMercuG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 19:25 Hardigan wrote: omg, Idra vs DRG? Idra always praises DRG, this is going to be interesting Not really, this is going to be the worst onesided series ever
lol ya. Huk and Demuslim should win their series though so at least overall it won't be a complete stomping.
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IdrA < DongRaeGu HuK > TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM > CatZ
IdrA vs DRG, seems too obvious unless idrA has some new shit in his sleeves. Huk vs TAiLS, favours atleast HuK since his pvp is quite good. PuMa vs Minigun, I haven't heard so much about Minigun lately and PuMa has shown good results so vote goes PuMa. DeMusliM vs CatZ, as much as I like CatZ I see him always playing dota2 or I am just unlucky. Also DeMusliM has shown good results in overall so my read about this will favor DeMusliM.
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EG must of ran over a few black cats during the week to get this lineup. Col using DRG for the first time in this team league, Huk hitting PvP against a player who has strong PvP going off his stats and having a first map choice like Crossfire. Puma is pretty much a lock and you would say DRG should be a good pick against Idra so I could see this being 3-1 in favor of EG or 3-1 to Col. To close to call
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I hope we get to see some amazing Puma 'parting the red sea' action like he did last MC against Minigun :D
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This will be close, however if it was all koreans I could have seen colmvp taking it easy.
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Idra's ZvZ has always been questionable and DRG is just legendary.
If thats not seriously onesided then I'll eat my own hat.
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GOGOGOGO CATZ :D ( and coL )
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Ace match decides this match.
Theoretically: Idra < DRG HuK ?< Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim > Catz Anyone < DRG
Either EG takes this 3-1 or loses it 2-3.
EVIL GENIUSES HWAIIITTTTING~~!~!!
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Germany32 Posts
Hmm ZvZ and PvP boring to watch, Idra vs Tails and Huk vs DRG would have been the better choice. Also because DRG >>>> Idra
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oh wow idra, DRG, Huk and tails!
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shame tails got a pvp , but he shud take, will go 2-2 because of the coL players , then DRG to take the ace!! gogo drg
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In the best case scenario for coLMVP, they force an ace match and DRG wins it there. Minigun or Catz winning their matches would be embarassing for EG.
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Glad to see HuK playing, since he's going up against a Korean.
MVP > EG > coL in my opinion.
MVP should take the first two sets (although HuK could upset), and then EG should take the next two sets, forcing an ace match.
Comes down to HuK imo. Closest match. Orome already called it on page one ^^
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On March 21 2012 21:07 Shazeen wrote: Hmm ZvZ and PvP boring to watch, Idra vs Tails and Huk vs DRG would have been the better choice. Also because DRG >>>> Idra
DRG>>>> everyone on EG, maybe JYP or Puma on a good day would be able to take a map. But because of the other matchups i have to give the advantage to EG. If Tails wins vs HuK then i am interested who EG will sacrifice to DRG :D
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On March 21 2012 21:50 Sareth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 21:07 Shazeen wrote: Hmm ZvZ and PvP boring to watch, Idra vs Tails and Huk vs DRG would have been the better choice. Also because DRG >>>> Idra
DRG>>>> everyone on EG, maybe JYP or Puma on a good day would be able to take a map. But because of the other matchups i have to give the advantage to EG. If Tails wins vs HuK then i am interested who EG will sacrifice to DRG :D
Nah man you got it all wrong.
Ace match is gonna be LzGaMeR vs. Goswser
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On March 21 2012 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 21:50 Sareth wrote:On March 21 2012 21:07 Shazeen wrote: Hmm ZvZ and PvP boring to watch, Idra vs Tails and Huk vs DRG would have been the better choice. Also because DRG >>>> Idra
DRG>>>> everyone on EG, maybe JYP or Puma on a good day would be able to take a map. But because of the other matchups i have to give the advantage to EG. If Tails wins vs HuK then i am interested who EG will sacrifice to DRG :D Nah man you got it all wrong. Ace match is gonna be LzGaMeR vs. Goswser That would be the most epic ace match ever :D Btw: Woot i am a hydra :3
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On March 21 2012 21:56 Sareth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 21 2012 21:50 Sareth wrote:On March 21 2012 21:07 Shazeen wrote: Hmm ZvZ and PvP boring to watch, Idra vs Tails and Huk vs DRG would have been the better choice. Also because DRG >>>> Idra
DRG>>>> everyone on EG, maybe JYP or Puma on a good day would be able to take a map. But because of the other matchups i have to give the advantage to EG. If Tails wins vs HuK then i am interested who EG will sacrifice to DRG :D Nah man you got it all wrong. Ace match is gonna be LzGaMeR vs. Goswser That would be the most epic ace match ever :D Btw: Woot i am a hydra :3
Congratulations!
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Wow DRG making an appearance.
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hahahahahaha once again....gonna have to guess 3-1 with Idra losing the only series...Puma/HuK/Demuslim got their best matchups
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On March 21 2012 20:06 PeZuY wrote: IdrA < DongRaeGu HuK > TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM > CatZ
IdrA vs DRG, seems too obvious unless idrA has some new shit in his sleeves. Huk vs TAiLS, favours atleast HuK since his pvp is quite good. PuMa vs Minigun, I haven't heard so much about Minigun lately and PuMa has shown good results so vote goes PuMa. DeMusliM vs CatZ, as much as I like CatZ I see him always playing dota2 or I am just unlucky. Also DeMusliM has shown good results in overall so my read about this will favor DeMusliM.
Catz is playing sc2 way more often than DotA 2. He is a good player, but Demuslim is fucking great. I don't see Catz winning, but I hope he can put up a nice fight.
And my predictions are exactly the same
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I pick, DRG over Idra Huk over Tails Puma over Minigun Demu over Catz
EG win 3-1
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On March 21 2012 19:27 Savern101 wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim > Catz
That should be how it goes, could be a draw if Huk loses the PvP. Puma and and Demuslim are probably playing in their best matchups and against inferior opponents.
Agree with this statement 100%
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I never thought a day would come when I would genuinely root for EG over another team.
By the way, Complexity's picks in these team leagues always looked completely random. -_-
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On March 22 2012 00:02 Talin wrote: I never thought a day would come when I would genuinely root for EG over another team.
By the way, Complexity's picks in these team leagues always looked completely random. -_- This is almost worth a printscreen. <3 Also, what makes you cheer over EG rather than coLMVP?
Not questioning anything, just wondering since this is a very rare sight. :p
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IdrA < DRG HuK < Tails PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM > CatZ
No idea whos gonna be ace, but if they are willing to through out DRG again, coLMVP will take this.
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On March 22 2012 00:11 KvltMan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 00:02 Talin wrote: I never thought a day would come when I would genuinely root for EG over another team.
By the way, Complexity's picks in these team leagues always looked completely random. -_- This is almost worth a printscreen. <3 Also, what makes you cheer over EG rather than coLMVP? Not questioning anything, just wondering since this is a very rare sight. :p I'm going to put that in my signature so that everyone knows how much you love EG.
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On March 22 2012 00:11 KvltMan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 00:02 Talin wrote: I never thought a day would come when I would genuinely root for EG over another team.
By the way, Complexity's picks in these team leagues always looked completely random. -_- This is almost worth a printscreen. <3 Also, what makes you cheer over EG rather than coLMVP?
They dared to even approach Nada, let alone actually talk to him. Such blasphemy will never be forgiven and must be punished with a fury of a thousand suns... but losing in team leagues will do.
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DongRaeGu vs IdrA? this is gonna be sick.
Am I the only one who feels like MvP is carrying compLexity? At least before they got NaDa, Heart and Killer ofc.
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You have to get Demuslim to cast with Machine on this one, they were so good when they casted demuslim's games before really made the games fun. Also evoli was a superb caster yesterday but an awful observer (not sure if the blame is his but I understood he controlled the camera and whilst they both missed things yesterday the general observing was pretty poor). And to Scoots, wp sir your production levels far surpass what I expected. All in all should be a very good watch and will likely have me up way passed my bed time.
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EG basically got the best draw possible. They could very likely win this 3-1. It all depends on whether Tails can take down HuK. If he can, I think CoLMvP's got this since they will most likely win the ace match.
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as much as i adore chad motherfucking jones, I don't like his chances here... CoLMvP 3-2 Liquid
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It depends on whether or not it goes to an ace match. IMO minigun and catz lose their games, and DRG wins his (not a big surprise there honestly.) Tails vs Huk is up for grabs. I haven't seen much of tails and I know Huk's PvP is a bit inconsistent. Sometimes world-class, sometimes not so much. I'm not sure, will be an interesting series to watch.
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Ah damnit, making predictions for Colmvp is such a pain I should stop doing it advance, you never know when they'll decide to use the koreans
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Oh my, what a match tonight. IdrA vs. DRG!! (Would have been a cant miss in december but still a really fun match up.)
Wont be home tonight though, going to have to catch the vods.
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oh god poor idra. I really hope his zvz is in good shape, and that he realizes how agressive DRG's zvz can be.
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DRG > Idra Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim > Catz
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might tune in to see Huk play ... haven't seen alot of him lately, so curious about it. Tails is pretty good in pvp though, atleast all the time i saw him he won his pvp.
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Could really go either way the matchups are such that some unexpected results might show up. Would have liked to see NaDa playing
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i'm really excited to watch idra vs DRG ZvZ. Should be really good. Overall, I think the match up is really close. I think it will go 2-2... are there ace match in this format? Puma should beat minigun... but I certainly would not be surprised with minigun comes out on top. Everytime i watch him play he seems to be getting better and better. Especially his last couple team matches (over the past 3 months) he always put the koreans on the edge. Either beating them or giving them a run for their money.
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come on demuslim and machine to cast gogogoogo
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Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~
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On March 22 2012 02:30 vileIllusion wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~
You really think Catz can take out Demu? He always seemed like more of an entertainer than a really great player to me. Though really, what do I know?
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EG got lucky that they can feed Idra to DRG. If Huk wins this should be in EGs bag.
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I think Idra is gonna take this. His ZvZ is pretty sick.
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Wow, EG holding nothing back. Too bad with 1/2 an MVP lineup colMVP should take this without too much trouble.
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On March 22 2012 03:30 Micket wrote: I think Idra is gonna take this. His ZvZ is pretty sick.
I don´t know, Idra´s last 10 ZvZ games (1W 9L) include losses to Symbol, Darkforce, Sheth, Orly. I don´t want to take anything away from these players, but they seem a bit weaker than Idras opponent today, who maybe is the best player in the world and GSL champion.
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3-0 (rather 3-1, as they play all matches) or 3-2 for colmvp, drg will kill idra, tails should beat huk, and chad motherfucking Jones can take his match. If mini loses it goes to drg winning an ace.
idra<DRG huk<tails puma<minigun demuslim>catz
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I think it comes down to Huk/Tails, winner here decides it
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When does the first match start?
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On March 22 2012 03:57 Fruitme wrote: When does the first match start? 6 hours
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haven't seen minigun play in a while, i'm excited to see what he's gonna bring to the table.
however i don't see how mvp would loose to eg. GL eg!
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this would be a huge upset if Idra actually took down DRG, and the rest of EG lost their match. GO Gracken
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On March 22 2012 02:30 vileIllusion wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~
+1.
DRG is DRG. HuK is good, hopefully beats Tails. Puma TvP vs. Minigun? Really?
And Demuslim in team matches. Seems to alternate between beasting it up, and then losing (like he did to DieStar). Could go either way.
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Idra < DRG Huk < Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim > Catz JYP<DRG 3-2 MVP
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On March 21 2012 21:07 Shazeen wrote: Hmm ZvZ and PvP boring to watch, Idra vs Tails and Huk vs DRG would have been the better choice. Also because DRG >>>> Idra
we have le pessimist over here! i think idra will bring one home from DRG! it will still be 2-1, but i think he will win one
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I'm pretty sure Idra will clean house and 2-0 DRG here. Fear the gracken guys.
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On March 22 2012 04:39 wattabeast wrote:
Idra < DRG Huk < Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim > Catz JYP<DRG 3-2 MVP
I'd rather have a Demuslim DRG ace. Imagine the preview to MLG Columbus
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IdrA 0-2 DRG HuK 2-1 Tails Puma 1-2 Minigun (calling it now) Demuslim 2-0 CatZ
Puma 0-2 DRG
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Idra < DRG HuK ?? Tails Puma> Minigun Demuslim > Catz
so either gonna win it 3-1 or go to ace then who knows!
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That really feels wierd to have DRG and Catz fielded in the same team :/
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On March 22 2012 05:23 kubiks wrote: That really feels wierd to have DRG and Catz fielded in the same team :/ they are good friends DRG mentors catz a bit. DRG also used his build to beat nestea in GSL
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On March 22 2012 05:01 Forbidden17 wrote: Puma 1-2 Minigun (calling it now)
LOL I'm going to remember this throughout the event
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hue I dont care if DRG beat IdrA, it'll still be a cool match. and if idra wins then lol...
Puma defs can take Minigun barring derping. PvP = who the fuck can tell with any degree of certainty. Demuslim feels stronger than Catz for sure... I dont know if ColMVP will use another Korean for Ace though...
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If you take those players and juggle with them I think this is one of the best draws that EG could have hoped for. IdrA in my opinion is not on the level of DRG, but I don't think any player on EG is good enough to beat him more than he would be defeated so thats good. IdrA can win, but I'm still going with DRG here.
IdrA < DRG
HuK got PvP, it couldn't get any better for him in my opinion. HuK should be very confident in PvP as he's a very good PvP player, yet he's up against TAiLs who's very good in PvP as well. Neither of them winning would be an upset for the other and its a very hard match to predict, yet I think HuK can do it in a close series.
HuK > TAiLs
While I don't follow Minigun, I think he's one of the underrated players of NA, but I think facing PuMa in his best match up will be a very hard task and I would consider him winning a big upset, not because he's bad, but PuMa insanely well rounded TvP.
PuMa > Minigun
DemusliM is a very good and solid player, while I don't think CatZ is bad I neither think he's on the same level as DemusliM. He has solid infestor control, but I feel he might be a bit too gimicky, especially if you consider DemusliM's very solid play, eventually even with mech. Crossfire helps CatZ out a lot I guess, but I don't think it will be enough.
DemusliM > CatZ
If one of my predictions goes in favor of coLMVP, I guess they'll send out DRG as ace and I predict DRG to take it over anyone EG sends. GL HF, hopefully we can see good games.
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On March 22 2012 04:33 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:30 vileIllusion wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~ +1. DRG is DRG. HuK is good, hopefully beats Tails. Puma TvP vs. Minigun? Really? And Demuslim in team matches. Seems to alternate between beasting it up, and then losing (like he did to DieStar). Could go either way.
What exactly is wrong with losing to DieStar? I really think you underestimate him, especially in TvT.
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On March 21 2012 19:25 Hardigan wrote: omg, Idra vs DRG? Idra always praises DRG, this is going to be interesting
I don't know - IdrA has a mind block against people he thinks are better than him - ie he ggs after falling just a tad behind, because he doesn't think he can make a comeback against players this good, and he tries to cheese and fail horribly. I don't see IdrA beating DRG.
Results-wise:
IdrA < DRG HuK > TaiLS Puma > Minigun Demuslim > Catz
EG takes it 3-1, since coLMVP decided to send out one of the worst possible line-ups against EG, minus DRG. But I guess HuK vs. TaiLs can go either way, in which case the match goes to an ace. In that case, DRG > whoever EG sends out.
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When were these games played? Just out of interest
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On March 22 2012 08:05 CeriseCherries wrote: When were these games played? Just out of interest Within the past week.
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On March 22 2012 08:05 CeriseCherries wrote: When were these games played? Just out of interest last night
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On March 21 2012 20:06 PeZuY wrote: IdrA < DongRaeGu HuK > TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM > CatZ
IdrA vs DRG, seems too obvious unless idrA has some new shit in his sleeves. Huk vs TAiLS, favours atleast HuK since his pvp is quite good. PuMa vs Minigun, I haven't heard so much about Minigun lately and PuMa has shown good results so vote goes PuMa. DeMusliM vs CatZ, as much as I like CatZ I see him always playing dota2 or I am just unlucky. Also DeMusliM has shown good results in overall so my read about this will favor DeMusliM.
Playing with shit in your sleeves sounds difficult. especially if its new
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Based on what I know, draws are completely randomized and I'm not actually a fan of this, it actually puts a lot of luck into every match. There are numerous times where I look at the draws and think to myself, if this was set up even slightly differently this whole match would go the other way entirely.
I think each team should be allowed to choose two players in response to their opponents two players and Ace matches should be blind.
So in this example:
EG chooses one player, coLMVP responds after hearing what EG chose. coLMVP choses one player, EG responds after hearing what coLMVP chose. EG chooses another player, coLMVP responds after hearing what EG chose. coLMVP choses another player, EG responds after hearing what coLMVP chose. Aces are chosen blindly.
Just a suggestion, if this is already how it happens then ignore the above post, but based on some of the draws we've seen I highly doubt this is the case.
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On March 22 2012 08:13 InsidiA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 20:06 PeZuY wrote: IdrA < DongRaeGu HuK > TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM > CatZ
IdrA vs DRG, seems too obvious unless idrA has some new shit in his sleeves. Huk vs TAiLS, favours atleast HuK since his pvp is quite good. PuMa vs Minigun, I haven't heard so much about Minigun lately and PuMa has shown good results so vote goes PuMa. DeMusliM vs CatZ, as much as I like CatZ I see him always playing dota2 or I am just unlucky. Also DeMusliM has shown good results in overall so my read about this will favor DeMusliM.
Playing with shit in your sleeves sounds difficult. especially if its new
LOL^
DRG > Idra Tails > HuK Puma > Minigun DeMu > Catz
Ace: DRG > HuK
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Idra < DRG Huk < Tails Puma > Minigun DeMuslim > Catz
Puma < DRG
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36663 Posts
Here's what baffles me.... coLMvP is taking things a bit more seriously because they're sending out DRG and TAiLS.
But I am perplexed to the Minigun CatZ decision. In this sort of situation, shouldn't MvP send out their top top lineup? They're already at 2 losses
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On March 22 2012 08:56 Seeker wrote: Here's what baffles me.... coLMvP is taking things a bit more seriously because they're sending out DRG and TAiLS.
But I am perplexed to the Minigun CatZ decision. In this sort of situation, shouldn't MvP send out their top top lineup? They're already at 2 losses they probably asked coach choi if any MvP players wanted to play and that is who he gave them. Im just guessing though
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Starting in 25 minutes! :D
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IdrA > DRG HuK < TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM < CatZ
ace
PuMa > DRG
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On March 22 2012 09:38 dragonborn wrote: DRG < IdrA HuK < TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM < CatZ
ace
PuMa > DRG
Your post is formatted really funny, the players aren't aligned with their teams.
My predictions.
IdrA < DRG HuK >= TAiLS PuMa > Minigun DeMusliM < Catz
Anyone < Trimaster
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...okay, has CatZ been vastly improving in the last while? Because I'm trying to figure out if people are joking about him beating DeMusliM or not.
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Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma < Minigun DeMuslim > Catz
Huk > DRG
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On March 22 2012 09:58 WolfintheSheep wrote: ...okay, has CatZ been vastly improving in the last while? Because I'm trying to figure out if people are joking about him beating DeMusliM or not.
Demuslim goes on and off in team leagues. He's definitely the favorite, but he loses to lesser players all the time. Like Diestar last time. Kiwikaki, illusion, Livezerg come to mind so far this year.
And i call them lesser, though they are mostly all pretty good, only because DeMusliM is damn good, and possibly top 5 foreigner Terran, but still can lose.
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Wow, there are some slight skill differences in the MVP team today, DRG carrying!
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On March 22 2012 10:09 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:58 WolfintheSheep wrote: ...okay, has CatZ been vastly improving in the last while? Because I'm trying to figure out if people are joking about him beating DeMusliM or not. Demuslim goes on and off in team leagues. He's definitely the favorite, but he loses to lesser players all the time. Like Diestar last time. Kiwikaki, illusion, Livezerg come to mind so far this year. And i call them lesser, though they are mostly all pretty good, only because DeMusliM is damn good, and possibly top 5 foreigner Terran, but still can lose. Well, Livezerg is about the only one I'd consider to be "lesser" like CatZ. Kiwikaki is consistent, if not top tier, and Diestar and illusion are at least good enough to qualify for some big tournaments.
I don't think CatZ has ever qualified or any major tourney, or gotten out of the Open Bracket.
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On March 21 2012 21:07 Shazeen wrote: Hmm ZvZ and PvP boring to watch, Idra vs Tails and Huk vs DRG would have been the better choice. Also because DRG >>>> Idra
DRG >>>> Huk as well. EG has a better chance with Huk vs Tails because at least Huk can win PvP. Idra has always struggled against Protoss and Tails isn't a pushover
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minigun with the upset gogo
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did they just say EG/Slayers happened before colMVP? I'm 99% sure that's not right
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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/onemoregame
Stream happenening!
did they just say EG/Slayers happened before colMVP? I'm 99% sure that's not right
They said that. Checking TLpedia.
On October 17th, Evil Geniuses created another obscure hype page, indicating an announcement to come. This hype was clarified on October 21st when the team announced an official training partnership between SlayerS and EG.[13] This partnership gave HuK and PuMa the chance to reside permanently at the SlayerS team house, while also permitting IdrA and DeMusliM to reside in a non-permanent way while they compete in the GSL[14] and Code A respectively
Source: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Evil_Geniuses
July 22nd, It is announced that DongRaeGu and Genius from the team MvP will be part of a partnership with compLexity called coL.MVP
Source: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/CompLexity_Gaming#2011
They were wrong.
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On March 22 2012 10:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: did they just say EG/Slayers happened before colMVP? I'm 99% sure that's not right
They did, and they are wrong.
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On March 22 2012 10:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: did they just say EG/Slayers happened before colMVP? I'm 99% sure that's not right
I feel like it happened around the same time, but wasn't TL-OGS earlier than either?
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Damn EG fielding a pretty beast team today.
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On March 22 2012 10:30 MajorityofOne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 10:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: did they just say EG/Slayers happened before colMVP? I'm 99% sure that's not right I feel like it happened around the same time, but wasn't TL-OGS earlier than either? TL-oGs was as long ago as the open seasons of GSL in 2010. coLMvP was in summer 2011. EG/Slayers was in Fall 2011
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Idra!!!!! with the first win!!! What's up!
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GGGGGGGG IdrA takes game 1 WOOOOOOOOOT
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Wow, I did not expect that from Idra. Neat!
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terrible play by DRG >_>;; what was he thinking...not even scouting that.
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O man Idra doing an all in! Good to see him do some variation from his standard play.
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Gracks on gracks on gracks, finish him!!
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All-ins are pretty good :D I like Idra's aggressive mentality though, ZvZ is a hard match-up to be passive in and he's playing an amazing opponent
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Wow, IdrA upsetting DRG in the first game with a roach-ling all-in.
DRG played terrible though, not scouting at all.
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Idra taking a lag-free game of DRG, that was surprising!
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Idra finally learned that you can actually all in once in a while as a macro player
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Smart by IdrA. They were talking about it a lot earlier today how everyone will just assume he'll play a passive macro game. DRG has insane macro so the all in was the correct choice especially with DRG not even scouting
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On March 22 2012 10:35 neoghaleon55 wrote: terrible play by DRG >_>;; what was he thinking...not even scouting that.
How do you really scout that any sooner than he did? The only way would be getting lucky Zerglings in. Pretty much just a coin-flip build.
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Wow nice Greg took game 1!
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rooting for eg, since its their tournament, its an exception ! but go EG ! And nice attack by Idra, got drg pretty much off guard it seems, guess drg didn't expected early aggression coming from idra.
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...meh I love IdrA but I think DRG definitely will take the other two games...
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I wanted to speak at the start of the thread that this would in no way be one-sided but I am a DRG fan too :D. Still expected DRG to win 2-0... well done IdrA
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Damn, about time Idra won a game
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Wheat casting? Fuck yeah.
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DRG, knowing that IdrA likes to drone, made too many drones himself. I think it was fairly obvious that DRG was playing the player rather than playing the race.
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Hmm roach warren on the way... possible all-in again?
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Damn... that was a quick game. Gj DRG nice hold.
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why is Idra all-ining twice in a row?
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DRG read that and defended it easy
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Hope for a macro game in game 3
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On March 22 2012 10:42 neoghaleon55 wrote: why is Idra all-ining twice in a row? Because everyone expects idra to go for a 5 base macro game so they usually play a little greedy against him or 2 base all in him
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Why would Wheat be surprised there? That was actually a good gg timing by Idra, there was 0 coming back from that.
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DRG not gonna fall for that twice. Mind games in Game 3?
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On March 22 2012 10:42 neoghaleon55 wrote: why is Idra all-ining twice in a row?
Because of who he is playing
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On March 22 2012 10:42 neoghaleon55 wrote: why is Idra all-ining twice in a row? Would you go into a macro game againt DRG?
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I get the feeling Idra is afraid to take DRG on in a macro game...similar to how MKP played at the arena.
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On March 22 2012 10:44 neoghaleon55 wrote: I get the feeling Idra is afraid to take DRG on in a macro game...similar to how MKP played at the arena. Can you blame him? and MKP always plays like that. He tried to change it up to do like reactored hellion expands and stuff against DRG in the FXO invitational and got destroyed.
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Wow, Huk's playing? Is this is first ever appearance in a team league for EG?
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both early pool but DRG is going 10 pool with speed vs idra's 10 pool with no speed
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idra.... >_>;;; what in god's name/
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well that's about it folks
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LOLOL!!!! Idra was gonna drone all in but saw drg's 10 pool >.>
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wtf was that build 0_0
Nestea's version is so much better, much better drone scout timing.
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huehue if I wanted a shot at beating Code S champion it would be cheesing them in ZvZ... enough B.O wins where if they go like 15 hatch and you go like 6 pool, it doesnt really matter what champion they are... they'll just die... (assumign im not the scrub controlling the lings and actually losing them to drones)
that + mindgames + idra doesnt really like online team tourneys + drg is scary mothafucka (kinda point 1)
lol DRG calling with cheese
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On March 22 2012 10:49 VPCursed wrote: how old are these games?
Bout a week old.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're only supposed to pull drones and go all-in if your opponent goes hatch first with that build.
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On March 22 2012 10:49 blade55555 wrote:Bout a week old.
Just a couple days
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Why counterattack there?
Very weird decision making here
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On March 22 2012 10:50 sparklyresidue wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're only supposed to pull drones and go all-in if your opponent goes hatch first with that build.
Yep, you send a scout at 10 supply when your pool is done.
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guess idra didn't know he was ahead and assumed drg would drone seeing no speed, should have cleaned up the lings a bit more, before moving out.
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Hm, I expected an earlier GG from Idra. Weird game but not disappointing.
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lol....fake...mental all in for idra...to idra...into a failed, badly timed counteratk....into...gg :\ Really?
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lol that game...Idra looked so lost after his triple all-in didn't work out.
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Idras decision making seems really off these days
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Can't blame idra for the risks, but nice to see that DRG was able to adjust after game 1 and play less greedy.
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Ack Idra. Why did you build that baneling nest so late after scouting DRGs.
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On March 22 2012 10:49 blade55555 wrote:Bout a week old. games were played last night
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On March 22 2012 10:54 neoghaleon55 wrote: lol that game...Idra looked so lost after his triple all-in didn't work out. ...shoulda played terran, then he still would have the better economy
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Painuser calling it perfectly, if IdrA realizes he's ahead after he held off that speedling attack with slow-lings he would have been in a great position.
Meh, hindsight is 20/20, decent performance from IdrA in those games.
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Felt like in all those games Idra was just crossing his fingers that DRG would do a certain build and then trying to hard counter it. One of the rare occasions when he was self-aware enough to realise he was outmatched.
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Well... at least this game was entertaining... if not anything else. Kinda making you both LOL & facepalm at the same time.
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Bleh, dissapointed in that series.
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On March 22 2012 10:55 RJGooner wrote: Painuser calling it perfectly, if IdrA realizes he's ahead after he held off that speedling attack with slow-lings he would have been in a great position.
Meh, hindsight is 20/20, decent performance from IdrA in those games. Yea his performance made them a lot better than I expected. At least it wasnt a complete stomping like Idra vs MC on Sunday. Taking a game off DRG is pretty good even if it was an all in.
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On March 22 2012 10:56 XenocideFTW wrote: God, PainUser is being so annoying/idra bashing for no reason.
He knows so little about ZvZ
Not really. He is just saying what most of us thinks not incl. the fanboys.
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IdrA's logic was at work that match - I'm worse than DRG, so I'm going to cheese/all-in/take huge risks. I didn't think he was going to take a game off of DRG with his all-ins since he's not very good at them, but DRG meta-gamed hard Game 1 thinking IdrA was going to play standard macro. Meh, don't know what to think about those matches - on one hand it makes IdrA harder to predict, but on the other does it really if people start catching onto his pattern of cheesing against better players?
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On March 22 2012 11:00 Azarkon wrote: IdrA's logic was at work that match - I'm worse than DRG, so I'm going to cheese/all-in/take huge risks. I didn't think he was going to take a game off of DRG with his all-ins since he's not very good at them, but DRG meta-gamed hard Game 1 thinking IdrA was going to play standard macro. Meh, don't know what to think about those matches - on one hand it makes IdrA harder to predict, but on the other does it really if people start catching onto his pattern of cheesing against better players?
the thing about IdrA is its REALLY hard to tell who he thinks is a good player...
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On March 22 2012 11:01 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:00 Azarkon wrote: IdrA's logic was at work that match - I'm worse than DRG, so I'm going to cheese/all-in/take huge risks. I didn't think he was going to take a game off of DRG with his all-ins since he's not very good at them, but DRG meta-gamed hard Game 1 thinking IdrA was going to play standard macro. Meh, don't know what to think about those matches - on one hand it makes IdrA harder to predict, but on the other does it really if people start catching onto his pattern of cheesing against better players? the thing about IdrA is its REALLY hard to tell who he thinks is a good player...
But if Idra doesn't think DRG is a good player, then he is absolutely gone insane :p
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On March 22 2012 11:03 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:01 CeriseCherries wrote:On March 22 2012 11:00 Azarkon wrote: IdrA's logic was at work that match - I'm worse than DRG, so I'm going to cheese/all-in/take huge risks. I didn't think he was going to take a game off of DRG with his all-ins since he's not very good at them, but DRG meta-gamed hard Game 1 thinking IdrA was going to play standard macro. Meh, don't know what to think about those matches - on one hand it makes IdrA harder to predict, but on the other does it really if people start catching onto his pattern of cheesing against better players? the thing about IdrA is its REALLY hard to tell who he thinks is a good player... But if Idra doesn't think DRG is a good player, then he is absolutely gone insane :p IdrA loves DRG, he keeps saying he wants to study his replays, hehe
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Tuned in, thought that IdrA and DRG off-raced for the lulz for a second :O
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lol wat. anyway huk is dead, no detection.
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wut just happened makes no sense
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wow... Can't say that I saw that coming..
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lol wtf pvp is so funny sometimes
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omg what the hell is wrong with these games today?! so bizzare
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huk ggs to dt rush game 2 vs tails
what happened in g1?
ok nvm that was G1.
what happened in g1 idra vs drg?
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On March 22 2012 11:07 TheNessman wrote: huk ggs to dt rush game 2 vs tails
what happened in g1? that was game 1.
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On March 22 2012 11:07 TheNessman wrote: huk ggs to dt rush game 2 vs tails
what happened in g1?
that was game 1
err someone beat me to it..
come on HuK!
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On March 22 2012 11:07 TheNessman wrote: huk ggs to dt rush game 2 vs tails
what happened in g1?
Edit: 2 other people already told you.
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"Errrr...ouch? o_o" pretty much depicts what we saw...
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On March 22 2012 11:07 TheNessman wrote: huk ggs to dt rush game 2 vs tails
what happened in g1?
That was game 1.
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That was game 1 (because everyone else is doing it)
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mmm zealots and sentries ... not getting detection upon seeing this. Have seen other tosses ignore detection as well, its so strange, to pray to not end up having dts kill you, just to get out these 2 extra stalkers.
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On March 22 2012 11:07 TheNessman wrote: huk ggs to dt rush game 2 vs tails
what happened in g1?
ok nvm that was G1.
what happened in g1 idra vs drg? idra won with a roach ling all in
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On March 22 2012 11:08 FeyFey wrote: mmm zealots and sentries ... not getting detection upon seeing this. Have seen other tosses ignore detection as well, its so strange, to pray to not end up having dts kill you, just to get out these 2 extra stalkers.
When you go twilight before robo, its hard to get detection before fast DTs. That's one of the many reasons why PvP is called a coinflip.
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lol....fake...mental all in for idra...to idra...into a failed, badly timed counteratk....into...gg :\ Really?
this. seems he is even scared to play a macro game. :<
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ugh, just got spoiled
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On March 22 2012 11:10 Kenpark wrote:Show nested quote +lol....fake...mental all in for idra...to idra...into a failed, badly timed counteratk....into...gg :\ Really? this. seems he is even scared to play a macro game. :< He has a better chance at beating DRG with an all in than a macro game
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LOOL!
Fail Dj Wheat! Well now we know there is a third game..
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-___________- .... wow haha.
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well, I wonder who wins game 2.... lol
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Hahaha... apparently there are 3 games in this series.
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If the second game on crossfire now is an insane 50 minute PvP we will all cry, haha.
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LOL.
+ Show Spoiler + Painuser on DualSight game. Must be g3 and HuK must have won g2.
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Epic Fail. Didn't NASL do this once in season 1 where they aired a game 3 before game 2?
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haha whoooooooooops
but of course djwheat is a god damn professional and painuser went with it and I love it.
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wtb replay watching with more than 1 person
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We better contact PainUser's sponsors.
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On March 22 2012 11:11 Type|NarutO wrote: If the second game on crossfire now is an insane 50 minute PvP we will all cry, haha. I don't think we'll have to worry about that looking at what's unfolding
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painuser sigh.... ruining the results
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On March 22 2012 11:12 Talanthalos wrote: grab the pitchforks
??? Nobody is pitchforking painuser.. honest mistake. no worries, you need to chill
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The mislabeled overlays make it difficult to watch mirror matchups.
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On March 22 2012 11:13 -_- wrote: The mislabeled overlays make it difficult to watch mirror matchups.
Ya I'm watching it on mute too so it's really confusing T.T
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wait are the colors mixed up really badly >>
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Considering no one is orange, I would say the overlay colors are indeed incorrect.
Edit: I see what you're saying. Tails is red.
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On March 22 2012 11:12 Shelke14 wrote:??? Nobody is pitchforking painuser.. honest mistake. no worries, you need to chill TO THE PITCHFORKS, NO MISTAKES ALLOWED
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Totally missed the Stalker blinking and scouting the base.
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"And THAT'S BECAUSE...there is nothing going on at all." Lol
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Total shocker!! Huk wins game 2. I thought he was dead
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The build just doesnt make much sense imo.
Pulling probes against stalker is just not the same as pulling probes against zealots.
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Tails looks a bit like YellOw on that picture.
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At least it was a good game.
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I must say the quality of games has been somewhat disappointing thus far.
Well played by Huk there.
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On March 22 2012 11:22 Shellshock1122 wrote: Total shocker!! Huk wins game 2. I thought he was dead
Lol I never knew this would go on to game three! wow!
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I'm sorry, I don't ever complain about the casting ...
But that was THE worst casted game in the history of Starcraft 2. First, Painuser loads the wrong game? Then, PU blows the result of the game because he's just careless. Then, the observer misses a great ninja blink by a stalker into Tails' base. Oh, no production tab all game. And the game before they had the wrong overlay. And it concludes with PU being ahead of the cast and calling the collosus going down early.
Truly the worst casted game I have heard in the history SC2. Totally unprofessional with them laughing about they mistakes.
I shut off your stream congrats you lost a viewer.
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On March 22 2012 11:24 hagrin wrote: I'm sorry, I don't ever complain about the casting ...
But that was THE worst casted game in the history of Starcraft 2. First, Painuser loads the wrong game? Then, PU blows the result of the game because he's just careless. Then, the observer misses a great ninja blink by a stalker into Tails' base. Oh, no production tab all game. And the game before they had the wrong overlay. And it concludes with PU being ahead of the cast and calling the collosus going down early.
Truly the worst casted game I have heard in the history SC2. Totally unprofessional with them laughing about they mistakes.
I shut off your stream congrats you lost a viewer.
You need to calm down a bit. It's one game.
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On March 22 2012 11:24 hagrin wrote: I'm sorry, I don't ever complain about the casting ...
But that was THE worst casted game in the history of Starcraft 2. First, Painuser loads the wrong game? Then, PU blows the result of the game because he's just careless. Then, the observer misses a great ninja blink by a stalker into Tails' base. Oh, no production tab all game. And the game before they had the wrong overlay. And it concludes with PU being ahead of the cast and calling the collosus going down early.
Truly the worst casted game I have heard in the history SC2. Totally unprofessional with them laughing about they mistakes.
I shut off your stream congrats you lost a viewer.
Congrats ur an idiot? I dont really know what to say to you
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On March 22 2012 11:24 hagrin wrote: I'm sorry, I don't ever complain about the casting ...
But that was THE worst casted game in the history of Starcraft 2. First, Painuser loads the wrong game? Then, PU blows the result of the game because he's just careless. Then, the observer misses a great ninja blink by a stalker into Tails' base. Oh, no production tab all game. And the game before they had the wrong overlay. And it concludes with PU being ahead of the cast and calling the collosus going down early.
Truly the worst casted game I have heard in the history SC2. Totally unprofessional with them laughing about they mistakes.
I shut off your stream congrats you lost a viewer.
Be more critical. Yes it was a mistake and they took it with humor, it can happen. Seriously some guys are just a pain in the ass.
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bye bee we won't miss you. Wonder what pops out of tails in game 3 !
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On March 22 2012 11:24 hagrin wrote: I'm sorry, I don't ever complain about the casting ...
But that was THE worst casted game in the history of Starcraft 2. First, Painuser loads the wrong game? Then, PU blows the result of the game because he's just careless. Then, the observer misses a great ninja blink by a stalker into Tails' base. Oh, no production tab all game. And the game before they had the wrong overlay. And it concludes with PU being ahead of the cast and calling the collosus going down early.
Truly the worst casted game I have heard in the history SC2. Totally unprofessional with them laughing about they mistakes.
I shut off your stream congrats you lost a viewer. Are you going to contact their sponsors?
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wow tails holy fail. is this guy capable of conventional pvp?
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stream just shut off for anyone else?
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On March 22 2012 11:32 LovE- wrote: stream just shut off for anyone else?
Worst time for Stream to die
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On March 22 2012 11:32 LovE- wrote: stream just shut off for anyone else? yes
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On March 22 2012 11:32 LovE- wrote: stream just shut off for anyone else?
Dead for me too :/ worst time evar
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Stream shut down, now commercial. -_-
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On March 22 2012 11:32 LovE- wrote: stream just shut off for anyone else? yup lol.
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and the stream dies in the heat of the battle..
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On March 22 2012 11:32 LovE- wrote: stream just shut off for anyone else? yeah it did but we had audio though
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stream dies. comes back to huk dead
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HuK lost, stream goes down.
Now this MU is up in the air - colMVP has a great shot.
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-_- yay for not seeing the fight that tails somehow wins.
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stream back on, huk is dead wtf lol
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Show us the final battle again, the stream died...
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minigun gonna complete the sweep lets go
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lol this series was a disaster for the casting crew.. :D oh well, shit happens.. looking forward to minigun vs puma, hopefully it will run smoother
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Tbh just before the stream fucked up it was pretty clear that Tails would win that battle. Still its ofc anoying.
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stream died again for me. I think I'm just gonna call it a night
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On March 22 2012 11:25 RJGooner wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:24 hagrin wrote: I'm sorry, I don't ever complain about the casting ...
But that was THE worst casted game in the history of Starcraft 2. First, Painuser loads the wrong game? Then, PU blows the result of the game because he's just careless. Then, the observer misses a great ninja blink by a stalker into Tails' base. Oh, no production tab all game. And the game before they had the wrong overlay. And it concludes with PU being ahead of the cast and calling the collosus going down early.
Truly the worst casted game I have heard in the history SC2. Totally unprofessional with them laughing about they mistakes.
I shut off your stream congrats you lost a viewer. You need to calm down a bit. It's one game.
Lmao, that was exactly what I was thinking... and they proved us wrong... and stream dead again, while I was typing.
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On March 22 2012 11:24 hagrin wrote: I'm sorry, I don't ever complain about the casting ...
But that was THE worst casted game in the history of Starcraft 2. First, Painuser loads the wrong game? Then, PU blows the result of the game because he's just careless. Then, the observer misses a great ninja blink by a stalker into Tails' base. Oh, no production tab all game. And the game before they had the wrong overlay. And it concludes with PU being ahead of the cast and calling the collosus going down early.
Truly the worst casted game I have heard in the history SC2. Totally unprofessional with them laughing about they mistakes.
I shut off your stream congrats you lost a viewer.
One lost viewer is a tragedy. Thousands of remaining viewers is just a statistic.
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well with the forcefield placement it was obvious who would win the engagement (immortal pushed out of range and sentries of huk dieing), but the stream down was still annoying. But force field battles are so much fun, but tails brought blink, so after the zealots all died in the force field battle, nothing to punish blinking in and sniping the immortal.
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Still wont come back up for me
What the heck man! Sad for HuK.. really thought he was going to take it once PU said there was a game three..
Oh well. Hopefully this goes to an Ace match so that we can have some more games to make up for all of these incidents xD
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Stream died, so I'll just listen to music. =(
Sad to know that coL will probably take this now.
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On March 22 2012 11:37 BlueBoxSC wrote: Stream died, so I'll just listen to music. =(
Sad to know that coL will probably take this now.
Not so fast. EG is favored in the next 2 matchups.
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From stream chat: Onemoregametv: im online but i can't stream and i just got d/ced from battle net
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internet seems to have alot of hickups today not only in europe it seems.
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On March 22 2012 10:42 neoghaleon55 wrote: why is Idra all-ining twice in a row? cuz hes playing on korean server which tends to have lag issues. so he wants the shortest games possible
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eg couldve won the first two matches had things played out just a little different
but theyre favored in the next two so hopefully they'll still win ^_^
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On March 22 2012 11:40 Ricemarine wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 10:42 neoghaleon55 wrote: why is Idra all-ining twice in a row? cuz hes playing on korean server which tends to have lag issues. so he wants the shortest games possible
yes, DRG is playing from the NA server to give Idra the advantage
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can any one live report this thread?
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On March 22 2012 11:37 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:37 BlueBoxSC wrote: Stream died, so I'll just listen to music. =(
Sad to know that coL will probably take this now. Not so fast. EG is favored in the next 2 matchups.
Bagration, that's true, but it'll probably be DRG's ace match that seals the deal.
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Sorry DjWheat but Terran would not pick Entombed Valley vs Protoss^^!
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Painuser, this is a shit map for terran vs protoss. Stop talking
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hellions kill larva so very quickly D:
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Probe at the watch tower... pulls away when the rines are coming...
Did the probe see the rines?
No no... I don't think so.
Okay good,.
Lol
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Noooo! What the heck is going on :|
Man today is not a good day for them.
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DJWheat killing Esports!!!!
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On March 22 2012 11:53 Brosy wrote: DJWheat killing Esports!!!!
One cast at a time.
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On March 22 2012 11:42 paintfive wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:40 Ricemarine wrote:On March 22 2012 10:42 neoghaleon55 wrote: why is Idra all-ining twice in a row? cuz hes playing on korean server which tends to have lag issues. so he wants the shortest games possible yes, DRG is playing from the NA server to give Idra the advantage why are you making things up
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On March 22 2012 11:47 Type|NarutO wrote: Sorry DjWheat but Terran would not pick Entombed Valley vs Protoss^^!
Unless he's sadistic. Or wants to meta SCV allin lol >< I'm just grasping at straws.
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Wait asking the players...is this live??
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On March 22 2012 12:00 grush57 wrote: The games are live? :o
Replays
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Why is djwheat pretending the games are live when they're obviously casted from replays?
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lol painuser sounds different
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lol ^^ talking about the suicide of the workers praising it, while the toss gets 8 gates up to reinforce like crazy (doing the same stuff the terran does with the suicide, its pretty bad showing this to the opponent actually). But you notice which race pain user played x3. But really wonder why puma is waiting so long.
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Great engagement by Puma there.
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Go puma! That pylon snipe!
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hope puma switches into gas units soon, or he will be outproduced. Adding reapers would be clever.
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Can someone explain why protosses don't get like 5 robos lategame if they get this much bank? Terrans usually lose a lot of vikings in a fight, and making 5 colossus at once might win the game easily.
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Perfect emps... Dunno what else you can ask for.
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Minigun doesn't really play a good lategame PvT. He could have easily won with his bank and the lack of ghosts. Storms, archon everything would be better than having no obs and letting his templars all clumped up and EMP'd by 1 ghost.
Just go for archons and templars and a good mix overall with colossi if your opponent doesn't have ghosts. Once you hold the middle you can add cannons to have detection in case of obs - sniping. Speedobserver / Warpprism with speed need to be added in lategame and it seriously isn't too hard. Now he's behind because he had to invest his bank into just remaking units because he was so cost inefficient.
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On March 22 2012 12:08 IMoperator wrote: Can someone explain why protosses don't get like 5 robos lategame if they get this much bank? Terrans usually lose a lot of vikings in a fight, and making 5 colossus at once might win the game easily. i think 3 robos is enough...
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I think Minigun could still win. He's got 3 collosus soon and Puma has no vikings.
Nevermind, Puma too good
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On March 22 2012 12:08 IMoperator wrote: Can someone explain why protosses don't get like 5 robos lategame if they get this much bank? Terrans usually lose a lot of vikings in a fight, and making 5 colossus at once might win the game easily.
because you end up with 30 supply building for 75secs - chrono time and if they push right then you'll die.
Think of it like building 5 thors at a time.
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On March 22 2012 12:08 IMoperator wrote: Can someone explain why protosses don't get like 5 robos lategame if they get this much bank? Terrans usually lose a lot of vikings in a fight, and making 5 colossus at once might win the game easily. you can remax faster with gateway units instead (i.e. mass chargelot archon) and colossus takes too long to build (and you need gateway units to protect them)
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Puma is so damn good at late game TvP army control.
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Puma's TvP is like a fucking art form.
Minigun definitely making some mistakes there though, not having an observer with the army for some of those fights is inexcusable
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definitely gonna be a 4-0.
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minigun should've won albeit it would be unfair and total bullshit but if he played half competently that was his game.
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On March 22 2012 12:11 Mohdoo wrote: definitely gonna be a 4-0.
how will it be 4-0? Minigun is going to come back and win back to back games? I disagree.. Ace match here we go
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On March 22 2012 12:14 Shelke14 wrote:how will it be 4-0? Minigun is going to come back and win back to back games? I disagree.. Ace match here we go Also against Puma, known for being bad at TvP.... Lol was a great post, well founded and with a lot of reasoning behind it. TL contribution at its finest.
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Was about to question how the server swapping went for this series, then remembered Puma has been in NA for the last week. Guess latency isn't an issue.
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On March 22 2012 12:14 Shelke14 wrote:how will it be 4-0? Minigun is going to come back and win back to back games? I disagree.. Ace match here we go
Brain fart where I somehow operated under the assumption that the players were on opposite teams lmao >_<
Been studying for finals all day.. <_<
Anything besides a 2-2 would be a big upset. I can't see Catz beating Demuslim in a BO3. Maybe a cheap win here or there, but Demuslim is on a different level.
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two base timing push.. I think puma will hold this.
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I don't want to be a dick but such bad control by minigun there. Notices Puma army way out of position but waits to use the warp prism after the army returns? Argh..
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Northern Ireland20729 Posts
Puma is pretty obscene, makes TvP actually look pretty manageable
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eeeehhh suuuu maaattchh!! (ace match :p)
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Ok, That was brutal poor Minigun
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Puma's micro in big battles is just flawless.
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Demuslim 2-0 Catz, Ace match Puma vs DRG. DRG wins 2-1
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On March 22 2012 12:28 RJGooner wrote:yeh definitely Nah, definitely 7-3.
On topic, great TvP by Puma.
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wow that push through at the end at that ramp, looked really brutal. I like it.
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Woo. Bring it home, Mr. Benjamin Baker!
<3 DeMuslim
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illsick
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PuMa looks like a god vs people he's better than :O
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On March 22 2012 12:31 aRyuujin wrote: PuMa looks like a god vs people he's better than :O
Doesn't everyone? :p
Sorry couldn't resist
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On March 22 2012 12:18 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 12:14 Shelke14 wrote:On March 22 2012 12:11 Mohdoo wrote: definitely gonna be a 4-0. how will it be 4-0? Minigun is going to come back and win back to back games? I disagree.. Ace match here we go Brain fart where I somehow operated under the assumption that the players were on opposite teams lmao >_< Been studying for finals all day.. <_< Anything besides a 2-2 would be a big upset. I can't see Catz beating Demuslim in a BO3. Maybe a cheap win here or there, but Demuslim is on a different level. This why would ColMVP send out CatZ and Minigun? No offense to those players... but when you have the roster they have........ kind of silly
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On March 22 2012 12:31 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 12:31 aRyuujin wrote: PuMa looks like a god vs people he's better than :O Doesn't everyone? :p Sorry couldn't resist
At least to me, when puma wins, he looks like a super top tier player, but on the other hand we see him not qualify for gsl so many times in a row.
in other news, CatZ looks like he's doing the old spanishiwa build
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Those infestors came out just in time
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That was terrible play from DeMuslim
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Impressive to say the least, but I wonder about DeMuslim's decision to move out. Nice Infestor timing though.
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On March 22 2012 12:42 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 12:31 Bagration wrote:On March 22 2012 12:31 aRyuujin wrote: PuMa looks like a god vs people he's better than :O Doesn't everyone? :p Sorry couldn't resist At least to me, when puma wins, he looks like a super top tier player, but on the other hand we see him not qualify for gsl so many times in a row. in other news, CatZ looks like he's doing the old spanishiwa build
Yeah, I know what you mean. Puma has times when he looks like the world's top 5 players, then there are times when he can barely beat mid-tier foreigners.
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Never count Catz out Did anyone predict him beating Demu?
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I don't understand how that counter from catz worked so well. Wasn't Demuslim producing anything? Seems like he should have had more than the 3 marines and a helion
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On March 22 2012 12:45 JJH777 wrote: I don't understand how that counter from catz worked so well. Wasn't Demuslim producing anything? Seems like he should have had more than the 3 marines and a helion
Welcome to early game terran.
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This game was a perfect example why Stephano doesnt place his evolution chamber as a wall off against helions anymore is to dangerious. Catz was really lucky Demuslim didnt finish his wall off and he got infestors out just in time or els he would have lost this game.
But nonetheless gg
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On March 22 2012 12:41 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 12:18 Mohdoo wrote:On March 22 2012 12:14 Shelke14 wrote:On March 22 2012 12:11 Mohdoo wrote: definitely gonna be a 4-0. how will it be 4-0? Minigun is going to come back and win back to back games? I disagree.. Ace match here we go Brain fart where I somehow operated under the assumption that the players were on opposite teams lmao >_< Been studying for finals all day.. <_< Anything besides a 2-2 would be a big upset. I can't see Catz beating Demuslim in a BO3. Maybe a cheap win here or there, but Demuslim is on a different level. This why would ColMVP send out CatZ and Minigun? No offense to those players... but when you have the roster they have........ kind of silly
Well it would be a pretty big snub to their players to not play them. There is also the issues of availability and servers that the games are played on. Puma in US and perhaps no Korean was available to play at that time on the US server. HuK v Tails however, both players are in Korea.
I also think you are selling minigun and catz short, Minigun hung in there a lot better than a lot of other players and catz is very good and is giving and can give demuslim a good run.
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On March 22 2012 12:46 NipponBanzai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 12:45 JJH777 wrote: I don't understand how that counter from catz worked so well. Wasn't Demuslim producing anything? Seems like he should have had more than the 3 marines and a helion Welcome to early game terran.
Wasn't that early. Painuser explained it as/right after I posted that. Demuslim was adding a bunch of add-ons and not reinforcing at all.
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A bit earlier Demuslim got up to 700 minerals then plopped down a CC and two Rax, then started a couple of Reactors, all at the same time. I assume none of that had kicked in when the counter came.
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On March 22 2012 12:52 NMx.StyX wrote: stream down?
Works fine for me.
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Liking CatZ's diligent creep spread :D
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4 brofestor hit squad not enough for Catz but he's played very impressively in both games imo
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oh demuslim
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lol ... i know those evil ling fit through holes from bw ... but i guess this hole was really intentional ^^;
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Huge upset. Demuslim losing twice to run-bys
EDIT: but he's not dead yet.
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lmao Painuser having a blast.
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Sick to see DongRaeGu for coL, didnt thought he cared too much about that team
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LOL Demu. Walls seem to be a problem.
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Catz doing all this cute play and banking 2.5k at 130 supply.
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Catz also lost like 6 infestors.... He's very careless with them.
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catz floating so much minerals
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catz macro is so terrible, he needs to work on his apm/multitask
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Catz should build some lings ... he seems to want to win with only infestors ^^; . But lol burrowed infestors spotting every drop this game.
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DeMuslim making this game as scrappy as possible.
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Catz is not able to defend all these drops with just Infestors...
He needs a lot more lings along with this to respond imo. I don't understand really...
He has everything in place but the drops just still do so much damage.
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On March 22 2012 13:18 Mordiford wrote: Catz is not able to defend all these drops with just Infestors...
He needs a lot more lings along with this to respond imo. I don't understand really...
He has everything in place but the drops just still do so much damage.
hes had over 1k minerals for like 10 minutes, he should have way more lings with this style
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LOL. How did CatZ ignore that tank for so long?
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Lamo this is one if the worst games I ever seen. No micro whatsoever.
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imo Catz is not as ahead as the casters suggest
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Really disappointing way to lose a game. Gotta sting >_<
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coL>>>>EG!!!!!!!!
terrible last game on both sides lollll!
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On March 22 2012 13:16 Antithesis wrote: Catz doing all this cute play and banking 2.5k at 130 supply. Ultra cavern was going up.
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On March 22 2012 13:20 Dakkas wrote: imo Catz is not as ahead as the casters suggest
The problem is that Catz should be as ahead as they say; been really sloppy.
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Nice attempt at a comeback by DeMusliM (and to a certain point, CatZ allowed it), but he was pretty far behind after the run-by. GGs
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Catz takes home the win for coLMVP
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lol coL gaining shape`?
More like MVP cleared the job.
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On March 22 2012 13:20 Dakkas wrote: imo Catz is not as ahead as the casters suggest
It's late game zerg after a huge runby. That's pretty ahead.
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cats doesnt seem to like expanding when he is ahead lol
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That was just a terrible game. GG to CatZ though!
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i didnt even know catz still played competitively
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So that's why Catz was saying Select is 10x better than Demu. -_-
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Well I'll be!
This kind of reminds me of when Destiny beat Bomber in the Geforce Pro-am Tournament. Hilarious, but also felt a bit wrong that the far better player lost. Oh well, congrats Catz!
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On March 22 2012 13:21 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 13:16 Antithesis wrote: Catz doing all this cute play and banking 2.5k at 130 supply. Ultra cavern was going up.
still man...his macro and rallies were not the best -__-
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Man that game makes me so sad x.x CatZ played so terribly lol That one crack in the wall though...
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...Catz beating Demuslim....really? Sorry EG u got a ways to go
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And the award for worst game of 2012 goes to Catz and Demuslim and at the same time award for the most hillarious game also goes to Catz and Demuslim
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On March 22 2012 13:22 Kfcnoob wrote: i didnt even know catz still played competitively
I guess you can call it that...
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On March 22 2012 13:22 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 13:20 Dakkas wrote: imo Catz is not as ahead as the casters suggest It's late game zerg after a huge runby. That's pretty ahead.
Mark it down to Catz's sloppy play however he really should have done better than that
EDIT: Granted I joined in after they just started the boxing analogies
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Did not see that coming. Congrats to ColMVP, and especially Catz.
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i never noticed that marauder explosions move with the model, looked pretty funny with the swinging arms of the ultras, and the explosions moving back and forth. Eg is really unlucky in team games >.<.
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Disappointing series in general as far as game quality goes. Gratz to Col.MvP.
I don't know what DeMusliM's problem is with these teamleagues.
Thought game 3 was a lot closer than the casters made it to be.
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must hurt to be at the bottom of the table at the own league lol
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On March 22 2012 13:25 GodOfWar wrote: must hurt to be at the bottom of the table at the own league lol
They've only played like three matches so far. Still a long way to go
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On March 22 2012 13:24 RJGooner wrote: Disappointing series in general as far as game quality goes. Gratz to Col.MvP.
I don't know what DeMusliM's problem is with these teamleagues.
Thought game 3 was a lot closer than the casters made it to be.
I don't think it was close at all. Sure, Demuslim stayed alive the whole time, but that was only because Catz wanted 100% guarantee win. He reasonably could have ended the game with some actual aggression and won.
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Wow holy shit did not expect that outcome!
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On March 22 2012 13:24 RJGooner wrote: Disappointing series in general as far as game quality goes. Gratz to Col.MvP.
I don't know what DeMusliM's problem is with these teamleagues.
Thought game 3 was a lot closer than the casters made it to be.
He likes to lose to really really really dumb things. Like that g5 at IEM vs. viOLeT. Or missclicking the repair on his bunkers in g9 of the Best of Britain showmatch.
And on teamleagues, it's easy to take it too easy...
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lol that Idra ad is so awesome, first time I've seen it lol
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On March 22 2012 13:27 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 13:24 RJGooner wrote: Disappointing series in general as far as game quality goes. Gratz to Col.MvP.
I don't know what DeMusliM's problem is with these teamleagues.
Thought game 3 was a lot closer than the casters made it to be. He likes to lose to really really really dumb things. Like that g5 at IEM vs. viOLeT. Or missclicking the repair on his bunkers in g9 of the Best of Britain showmatch.
It's a real pity, but it also reminds of a saying:
"Good players practice until they get it right. Great players practice until they can't get it wrong"
Get 'em next time Demuslim!
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On March 22 2012 13:27 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 13:24 RJGooner wrote: Disappointing series in general as far as game quality goes. Gratz to Col.MvP.
I don't know what DeMusliM's problem is with these teamleagues.
Thought game 3 was a lot closer than the casters made it to be. I don't think it was close at all. Sure, Demuslim stayed alive the whole time, but that was only because Catz wanted 100% guarantee win. He reasonably could have ended the game with some actual aggression and won.
Catz killed 23 scv's with the ling runby, DeMu's drop killed 19 drones. DeMu was certainly well behind yes but I didn't think it was as dire as the casters made it out to be
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gg's. its going to be hard for EG when teams send out players like DRG at you. nice tries though
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Nothing more satisfying than seeing my favorite player come out with a win while being the underdog! CatZ <3
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On March 22 2012 13:31 JiYan wrote: gg's. its going to be hard for EG when teams send out players like DRG at you. nice tries though
it was certainly a present particulary made for IdrA
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I think DeMuslim underestimated Catz in the same way he said he underestimated Destiny at Lone Star. He really likes to pull off tricky plays, and against good players (and don't kid yourself, Destiny and Catz are both pretty damn good) he opens himself up to getting punished HARD. In general, DeMuslim is the better player, but he played too risky.
I was disappointed not to see him go mech; I think that he could have taken Crossfire that way. Daybreak was just an unfortunate opening for that runby that spiraled out of control.
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On March 22 2012 13:27 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 13:24 RJGooner wrote: Disappointing series in general as far as game quality goes. Gratz to Col.MvP.
I don't know what DeMusliM's problem is with these teamleagues.
Thought game 3 was a lot closer than the casters made it to be. I don't think it was close at all. Sure, Demuslim stayed alive the whole time, but that was only because Catz wanted 100% guarantee win. He reasonably could have ended the game with some actual aggression and won. The match rather looked like Catz was trying to find the most cumbersome way to win conceivable.
In the midgame, he could have gone pure ling/bling from his bank and rolled Demuslim instead of staying so extremely infestor centric and losing so much to drops... his style is nice and all, but in the midgame even pure ling/bling with solid macro might have been a more reliable option.
Funny series nevertheless.
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EG didn't send out JYP :_(
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Wow didn't expect Catz to beat DeMuslim, haha.
Didn't get to see it but I hear it was ugly.
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On March 22 2012 03:17 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:30 vileIllusion wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~ You really think Catz can take out Demu? He always seemed like more of an entertainer than a really great player to me. Though really, what do I know?
Clearly not much.
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On March 22 2012 15:53 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 03:17 Promethelax wrote:On March 22 2012 02:30 vileIllusion wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~ You really think Catz can take out Demu? He always seemed like more of an entertainer than a really great player to me. Though really, what do I know? Clearly not much.
Hah - These people that go to page 1-3 for the predictions and then find someone they can belittle. It's old, please just stop it.
DeMuslim being taken out by CatZ _is_ a big upset, even the biggest CatZ-fans must realize this..
Edit - Sorry, didnt see it was actually yourself you were quoting T.T
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Or you know, sometimes "these people" are actually self-quoting and self-belittling.
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On March 22 2012 16:10 Kentredenite wrote: Or you know, sometimes "these people" are actually self-quoting and self-belittling.
lol - you are right Ô_Ô
Fuck, I made an arse of myself ://////////////
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On March 22 2012 16:05 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 15:53 Promethelax wrote:On March 22 2012 03:17 Promethelax wrote:On March 22 2012 02:30 vileIllusion wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~ You really think Catz can take out Demu? He always seemed like more of an entertainer than a really great player to me. Though really, what do I know? Clearly not much. Hah - These people that go to page 1-3 for the predictions and then find someone they can belittle. It's old, please just stop it. DeMuslim being taken out by CatZ _is_ a big upset, even the biggest CatZ-fans must realize this.. Edit - Sorry, didnt see it was actually yourself you were quoting T.T To be fair he responded to a question asked to him.. kinda
Edit:Damn, fell for it too.. dubbel fail
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Big Demuslim fan but I like Catz a lot too. Glad to see him making some noise!
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Demu losing to Catz is not THAT massive of an upset. I don't think people realize just by how much you need to be better than your opponent to be guaranteed a win or even have an 80% chance of winning in SC2. Almost every progamer has a solid, healthy chance of beating any other if he's been practicing regularly.
Demu was maybe a 60-40 favorite in this game at best, so obviously predicting him to win did make more sense, but predicting Catz to win wasn't batshit insane either.
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On March 22 2012 17:59 Talin wrote: Demu losing to Catz is not THAT massive of an upset. I don't think people realize just by how much you need to be better than your opponent to be guaranteed a win or even have an 80% chance of winning in SC2. Almost every progamer has a solid, healthy chance of beating any other if he's been practicing regularly.
Demu was maybe a 60-40 favorite in this game at best, so obviously predicting him to win did make more sense, but predicting Catz to win wasn't batshit insane either. 60-40? I think this occurence WAS that 20% tbh.
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On March 22 2012 17:59 Talin wrote: Demu losing to Catz is not THAT massive of an upset. I don't think people realize just by how much you need to be better than your opponent to be guaranteed a win or even have an 80% chance of winning in SC2. Almost every progamer has a solid, healthy chance of beating any other if he's been practicing regularly.
Demu was maybe a 60-40 favorite in this game at best, so obviously predicting him to win did make more sense, but predicting Catz to win wasn't batshit insane either.
Well, I've been watching quite alot of his streams and he does have some pretty sick play in my oppinion, so I disagree with you on this one - NesTea was quite impressed by him as well at last MLG (DeMuslim won 2-1 on balanced maps), according to an interview that I now cannot find - It actually might have been on State of the Game when they had him on there? Not sure
His TvZ is usually really strong and is his best matchup, so I do think 60-40 is abit too low
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On March 22 2012 18:20 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 17:59 Talin wrote: Demu losing to Catz is not THAT massive of an upset. I don't think people realize just by how much you need to be better than your opponent to be guaranteed a win or even have an 80% chance of winning in SC2. Almost every progamer has a solid, healthy chance of beating any other if he's been practicing regularly.
Demu was maybe a 60-40 favorite in this game at best, so obviously predicting him to win did make more sense, but predicting Catz to win wasn't batshit insane either. Well, I've been watching quite alot of his streams and he does have some pretty sick play in my oppinion, so I disagree with you on this one - NesTea was quite impressed by him as well at last MLG (DeMuslim won 2-1 on balanced maps), according to an interview that I now cannot find - It actually might have been on State of the Game when they had him on there? Not sure His TvZ is usually really strong and is his best matchup, so I do think 60-40 is abit too low Yeah, if it was a Toss, it wouldn't be too surprising, Demu is having trouble in that matchup, but he's normally really good vs Zerg, gj to Catz for taking it.
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I think you both underestimate how good/high a 60ish% chance to win really is in SC2. I don't think any foreigner has much higher chances against any other foreigner, excluding part-time players who go to school or don't play regularly for another reason.
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On March 22 2012 18:33 Talin wrote: I think you both underestimate how good/high a 60ish% chance to win really is in SC2. I don't think any foreigner has much higher chances against any other foreigner, excluding part-time players who go to school or don't play regularly for another reason.
ever heard about stephano?
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On March 22 2012 13:22 Heinsenzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 13:21 Dfgj wrote:On March 22 2012 13:16 Antithesis wrote: Catz doing all this cute play and banking 2.5k at 130 supply. Ultra cavern was going up. still man...his macro and rallies were not the best -__-
I can agree that his rallies were not the best, but I don't think you can count banking for the completion of his ultralisk cavern "bad macro".
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On March 22 2012 20:13 Fishriot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 13:22 Heinsenzerg wrote:On March 22 2012 13:21 Dfgj wrote:On March 22 2012 13:16 Antithesis wrote: Catz doing all this cute play and banking 2.5k at 130 supply. Ultra cavern was going up. still man...his macro and rallies were not the best -__- I can agree that his rallies were not the best, but I don't think you can count banking for the completion of his ultralisk cavern "bad macro". No, he didn't have enough gas to spend all these minerals on ultras, because he went so heavy on infestors. He was about 2500 minerals, but only around 300 gas forever, so he clearly could have spend his resources better despite going ultras. He could have expanded, thrown down more macro hatches and obviously pumped way more lings which would have also allowed him to handle the midgame better.
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wow, such a horrible showing by the EG team. Catz won????
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Oh c'mon wtf, EG. Really shit performance
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Where are all these demuslim results that make people seem to think he was the favourite?
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Holy shit. Why do you all think Demuslim is a god? He's a good player sure, but so is Catz. It's amazing that you faggots are even surprised at the outcome. Most of you probably don't even watch Catz stream enough to know that he's a really amazing player.
Also, Stop trying to assign numbers. Starcraft isn't a game based on numbers. Anybody who watched any amount of SC2 should know this.
So in conclusion. Most of you are probably derp retards who don't really understand how this game works. You just jumped aboard some Demuslim bandwagon, and are now upset because an amazing player beat him.
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On March 23 2012 01:23 NaquadahEOD wrote: Holy shit. Why do you all think Demuslim is a god? He's a good player sure, but so is Catz. It's amazing that you faggots are even surprised at the outcome. Most of you probably don't even watch Catz stream enough to know that he's a really amazing player.
Also, Stop trying to assign numbers. Starcraft isn't a game based on numbers. Anybody who watched any amount of SC2 should know this.
So in conclusion. Most of you are probably derp retards who don't really understand how this game works. You just jumped aboard some Demuslim bandwagon, and are now upset because an amazing player beat him.
Maybe you can quit being such a dick? Why are you so angry that people thought Demuslim was the favorite, I definately thought that, what has CatZ done at all recently? And I watch Demuslim's stream so I think he's good, I wouldn't go as far to say "really amazing"
But anyways you don't need to call people fags, derp retards etc. It's just uncalled for...
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On March 23 2012 01:23 NaquadahEOD wrote: Holy shit. Why do you all think Demuslim is a god? He's a good player sure, but so is Catz. It's amazing that you faggots are even surprised at the outcome. Most of you probably don't even watch Catz stream enough to know that he's a really amazing player.
Also, Stop trying to assign numbers. Starcraft isn't a game based on numbers. Anybody who watched any amount of SC2 should know this.
So in conclusion. Most of you are probably derp retards who don't really understand how this game works. You just jumped aboard some Demuslim bandwagon, and are now upset because an amazing player beat him.
User was temp banned for this post.
Starcraft is a game based on numbers. Like Catz is 18-28 this year, and 6-12 vs. Terran. And Demuslim is 43-45 and 24-16 vs. Zerg. CatZ is good, doesn't mean he is amazing, Demuslim's clearly better with more wins. Hell, if you want to hype up CatZ's stream, note that CatZ on his ladder stream isn't ranked as highly as Demuslim.
There is always a favorite for a reason. People are expected to win.
Main Point: Numbers and stats exist for a reason. The game does work that way. Someone who generally does well vs. a certain race will generally beat those who don't. Life works that way. You're abuse is nothing more than the rant of someone who lives in a dream world where things just are, and quantifiable things are ignored out of fanboyism.
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On March 22 2012 16:20 Slangen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 16:05 ELA wrote:On March 22 2012 15:53 Promethelax wrote:On March 22 2012 03:17 Promethelax wrote:On March 22 2012 02:30 vileIllusion wrote: Idra < DRG Huk > Tails Puma > Minigun Demuslim < Catz
Ace Match could be anyone vs DRG ~_~ You really think Catz can take out Demu? He always seemed like more of an entertainer than a really great player to me. Though really, what do I know? Clearly not much. Hah - These people that go to page 1-3 for the predictions and then find someone they can belittle. It's old, please just stop it. DeMuslim being taken out by CatZ _is_ a big upset, even the biggest CatZ-fans must realize this.. Edit - Sorry, didnt see it was actually yourself you were quoting T.T To be fair he responded to a question asked to him.. kinda Edit:Damn, fell for it too.. dubbel fail
Wow, I didn't intend to troll everyone that hard. I just wanted to be sure I made it clear I had made an ass of myself.
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Didn't watch most of it yesterday. Since it's MLG weekend, is the Empire vs Vile broadcast today cancelled? No thread, nothing showing up in the TL calendar?
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On March 23 2012 06:16 StarVe wrote: Is the broadcast today cancelled? No thread, nothing showing up in the TL calendar?
Everyone is at MLG columbus
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On March 23 2012 06:17 GreyKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 06:16 StarVe wrote: Is the broadcast today cancelled? No thread, nothing showing up in the TL calendar? Everyone is at MLG columbus
Yeah, makes sense, but I didn't read anything about it, and the schedule image in the OP still has the other matches.
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so happy col.mvp used their caucasian line-up and winning it !!! congratz to CatZ !!!!
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